Here's Why Dodge Chose NOT to Upgrade the Challenger! Stupid or Brilliant?

I give you my thoughts on Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis' recent comments on why they chose not to upgrade the chassis on the on the Dodge Challenger when they had the chance. It could have been significantly lighter and more maneuverable; however, would it still have been a muscle car? Do you think Dodge made the right decision staying with the older and heavier platform?
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[@artillerybuff2000]

Not a mistake, I am so glad they basically left the body alone from 2008 through 2023. I actually hate what has happened to the Mustang and Camaro styling wise. But then again I'm older and prefer the retro look. I do think it is a huge mistake to phase out the Hemi V8's this soon; they should have waited a couple more years. Electric is still way too far away to be wide spread. There is no grid to support it, no plans to enhance the grid, nor any real plans to fix the existing woefully inadequate grid in most states. Every time the power goes out (not if but when) you are strapped to a short range vehicle that will be stuck on the side of the road somewhere; no thanks!

[@DWH300]

Ford has taken the new S650 Mustang to a new level front, to back with an amazing new interior. So you consider the Challenger that is basically the same from 2008 to current. The reason Stellantis decided not to redesign the Challenger is due to customers willing to pay $70,000+ for a straight line performer with a Hemi engine. . They avoided R&D because the Challenger is profitable because Stellantis has put very little money to develop new upgrades. I keep hearing about the same old designs with Stellantis offering nothing new to their customers. I recently pulled my 2018 Chrysler 300C next to a 2022 300S on my dealers lot and found zero difference. If Ford can build them with the ongoing chip shortage. The S650 will be a hugh seller. .

[@jmilz08]

Dodge liked to shoot them selves in the foot

[@joshfiveoh]

everyone will most likely be getting the S650. Ford did it right

[@jmilz08]

@@joshfiveoh yep as a big dodge fan you’re totally right . They knew what they had to do regarding evs and had enough credits to continue the stang as normal . Dodge is done

[@joshfiveoh]

@@jmilz08 they even giving us a manual option 😭

[@garyevans4825]

Love my 16 challenger 392 .might be heavy but on long rides is so comfortable and still has all the power i need.

[@katherinegriffin7930]

Love mine too, I have other cars also, 2016 hellcat and 2019 scat pack, 2020 traverse, now I have a deposit on a 2023 scat pack that I designed. You know the kind that the po’ folk San afford 🥹

[@alexander_3923]

The 2016 challenger is actually the lightest at 4080 pounds compare to the newer ones at like 4230 pounds

[@MarioLT4]

Im a Chevy guy. I really liked the 2010 - 2015 Camaro. Once the Camaro went too small with no useable back seat. I test drove a Challenger with the wife and kids. Bought that day. I love it

[@josephbeebe4312]

2013-15 Camaro is horrible the tail lights look like stickers lol. The 10-12 and the 16-18 are the best modern camaro’s imo.

[@MarioLT4]

@@josephbeebe4312 yes almost bought a 2010. They look the best. Nothing modern on that model. No navigation back up camera no driving modes. Ect.

[@llcruzn5426]

Dodge did the best thing. Keeping to their root’s and keeping it Old School. I’ve had a few Challenger’s a 2014,2015, 2020 and now a 2021. All great cars.

[@DWH300]

But what's the future of Dodge or do they have one.

[@jmilz08]

@@DWH300 na they just committed suicide

[@jeffrykopis5468]

Why do ya keep trading them in? Get bored with one color?

[@jeffrykopis5468]

@@DWH300 It's the Chrysler brand that's in deep trouble: All they have is the minivan and the soon-extinct 300C. Chrysler will be the next brand to go the way of Mercury, Pontiac, Olds, Plymouth, et al. The CORPORATION will survive on Dodge, Jeep, and RAM, but the car brand will disappear.

[@kevinvojta692]

Me too a 2010 R/T classic, 2012 SXT Plus, 2 x SRT 392s, 2016 Hellcat, 2017 Challenger GT AWD, 2019 Hellcat Redeye WB.

[@thullraven1]

I've always been a fan of the old school looks of the Challenger. There is nothing else like it. THAT was brilliant. Doing away with Challengers after 2023, not so much.

[@randypleva2397]

Absolutely only reason why I went with the challenger.

[@morrischoo9960]

Dodge made the correct decision. The Challenger and Charger gained popularity enormously in the last few years. I loved the ride of my trucks and decided to buy the Dodge Challenger rt plus 6spd instead of the Corvette Z06. The comfort is even better with the 6 spd Str 392 now. Bitd, a neighbor of mine bragged about his Iroc Z. I stuck to my Ford Gt Mustang and upgraded to the 93 Cobra when they were on sale due to the economy in late 93. The 5.0 was not even close to the Camaro in the cool factor , but it was the most popular and most hotrodded vehicle of all time imo. The Cobra went to the founders of the MCA for judgement rules book development. Original tires, battery, plastic wrap, stickers, pictures of chalk markings etc. In 03 at the 10 year mark of whether or not a car becomes collectible. The Challengers specifically will always be popular due to the accuracy of the retro design and possibly the best muscle cars ever produced. My experiences tell me this. They are flat out gorgeously designed and Timeless in their appeal..

[@bluesmoke218]

I can get 2 car seats in the back of my challenger and my boys love riding in it as it’s my daily. I’m glad it’s not smaller

[@slicepizza3263]

Since 2006 I've said that if these cars (Charger, Magnum, 300) were at 3000 lbs. they would be near supercars.

[@ChrisSmith-dp9qi]

I traded my 2018 Camaro SS 6spd for a Challenger Scat Pack 50th. I just like the old school look as well as the space and ergonomics. Move forward, the thing I really missed about the Camaro was the 6 spd and the better (slightly) handling. So I ordered a Scat Widebody with the 6spd and a Shaker. All is right with the world today.

[@electro740]

slightly better handling you definitely didn't use that camaro to its fullest extent the challenger is great looking though so enjoy

[@ChrisSmith-dp9qi]

@@electro740 Well, I did cheat with Challenger. I went with a staggered set up with 285 front/ 295 rear Michelin PS4's. The car also had the dynamics package. But yeah, Camaro is a great car, wish I could've kept it and had both.

[@ned_frankly]

@@ChrisSmith-dp9qi sounds like you got my shaker 6 speed ScatPack challenger, down to the dynamics pkg. Not a widebody, but otherwise...

[@jasoncaine2600]

You left out you have visibility now 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@williamrose7184]

You should’ve went with the eight speed because it beats the six speed all day long.. and when I told you there is nothing greater than that eight speed shifting in track mode… and the downshifts oh my God the downshift are a thing of beauty. Just the shifting in general when you’re in track mode, it’s violent perfection is the only way that I know how to phrase it.

[@Shadow_of_Yharnam]

I made my ScatPack faster by loosing 168 lb lol. 😂

[@GRosa250]

Wow that’s a lot of weight to lose, congratulations! How long did it take you and how much did you weigh before?

[@Shadow_of_Yharnam]

@@GRosa250 thanks. I was at 333 lb at my heaviest. Now I’m at 165 lb. Started in 2019 . Just took up running , lifting weights and cooking my own food.

[@bman99ss]

Damn, that's a whole person . . .

[@GRosa250]

@@Shadow_of_Yharnam that’s really amazing, you’ve definitely got a lot of willpower, great job!

[@Shadow_of_Yharnam]

@@bman99ss yup lol😂

[@louisappel6884]

Dodge was right on the money! I have a 2012 RT Classic that is a fun, comfortable and enjoyable car to drive on long trips. I also have several other cars one bring a Mustang GT which is a blast to drive running it through the gears but not the most comfortable. I’m not getting rid of it any time soon. Thanks for bringing us such interesting content that speaks to all us gesrheads!

[@blightedrapture8770]

Mustang really should take some more shape from the 67’ for their newer cars. It’s the sexiest pony chassis bar none imho

[@superbeeec2070]

I think it was a good idea 💡 that they stuck to the old chasis and body style. It was the nostalgia of the body style that bought the Challenger back in 2008. Changing the style in 2014 would have been a no 🧠 brainer in my opinion. I my self have had a 1972 SE Challenger, a 1974 Challenger 340, and a 2016 Srt 392 Challenger. The body style kept me coming 🔙!

[@waydephilpot3749]

They made the right choice. The whole chassis/platform argument does apply to a straight line performer like a Challenger.

[@chrism6880]

They made the right call then. Not the case now moving forward.

[@LifeisGood762]

They made the right decision. I wouldn't have interest in Dodge except for the challenger as it is. It's the only car like it on the road. The 70s styling is what does it for me. Likely if they had only had it on the market from -08 to -14 it would have just been a blip on the radar and not have my interest. NOT changing it gave it staying power.

[@Akosa117]

Yea, at 6’2 250lbs the mustang and Camaro are very uncomfortable to sit it

[@jjmmjj44]

I’m 6’2” and my 2016 scatpac challenger has lots of leg room .

[@ModifiedRPMs]

I'm just happy I got my challenger knowing they are potentially going away forever. Even if they come back I don't think it'll be in this life time... Government officials tend to take year's before taking a step backward oh I mean forwards.

[@garyfuller392]

Yes, they made the right decision! Love my new 2022 widebody scat orange edition! Puts a smile on my face everyday I hit that start button! Classic old school!

[@robnduhcut]

U deserve it. U work hard u get rewarded

[@robnduhcut]

U deserve it. U work hard u get rewarded

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

That decision means there will be no more Challenger.

[@capricetony]

They are big, heavy and out sold the Camaro and came close to doing that to the Mustang, how bad could they have been. It’s an awesome car, I am late to the game getting mine but can’t wait 👍

[@dtruth5769]

Couldn't agree more with u X. For the same reason the Hemi dart to this day is still the fastest NA car in the 1/4. They should have made at least 1 super Light Cuda car.

[@CDalonzo]

Got a ‘19 RT certified 19k miles and loving it so far I’m so happy

[@oswegocommlcapital7528]

I stepped up and bought the Redeye in 2019. Sure lighter would be better but I enjoy it regardless. I won't be making the jump to EV though.

[@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711]

I really love the Challenger and I’m planning to get one of the last ones for 2023. But other than the ZF 8HP, Dodge never made an effort to make the car lighter or more efficient. If they could have moved the Challenger to the Giorgio platform without making it any smaller, that could have been great cause one of my biggest issues with the other two is interior space. But if going Giorgio meant downsizing, I’m glad they stayed with the LX platform. Why we never saw more extensive use of lighter materials like aluminum for the engine block or some carbon fiber body panels keeps me awake at night.

[@swiftharris1]

Had an Alfa Romero Zoom by me with incredible power and I was doing 110 , it was intimidating , I used to be a Mustang and BMW owner 5.0 to the twin turbo V8 750 I love my charger more than those cars combine I'm a true Dodge fan now

[@AngelFlores_133]

Dodge has comfort and power to match. I love my2014 Charger RT. More than enough power for day to day driving and super smooth ride, plus I can bring friends and family along with me. Everything I wanted in my daily vehicle.

[@alanzolotoff6014]

I’m glad dodge didn’t change the platform. I use my back seat a lot and there is no room for people to sit comfy in the back seat of a Mustang or camero, I’m 6’ 1” and I can sit comfy in the back of my challenger 👍👍

[@buddymorrissey]

Agreed. The backseat of my SN197 feels smaller than my old Fox. When I was back there changing speakers, it felt like being in a coffin.

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

No one would've forced you to buy the new, smaller Challenger. All this means is that the Challenger is going away forever. You're glad about that?

[@alanzolotoff6014]

@@Johnny-lr5jt no I’m glad they kept the old platform, the challenger is around 7 inches longer than mustang & camero.

[@Lauria43]

The sales numbers show the chassis was doing just fine. The 1320 was designed for those that preferred a drag strip over the track and thats what sold me, personally.

[@malikmadison6304]

I think they should’ve tried a lighter chassis for a small run to see how they would sell because we all know that a big driving factor is how much profit they can make

[@SteveL11]

Moved to the US in 2010 with my family. Saw an old-school Challenger right off SeaTac and immediately fall in love. I was 16. Joined the Army right after HS, then they released the new generation of Challenger, took me 3 years of saving to get my first 2015 Challenger SXT Plus with all the packages. It's almost 2023 and I'm still in love, got a new 21 SXT AWD last year too. Love everything about it, the style, the comfort, even the maintenance... used as a daily driver. It just makes me so happy. Before traded in, the 2015 got 85K miles on it, still a beast. Althought, probably going to get a lot of hate because it's not a V8.

[@arthurgonsalves2343]

I like the way Dodge left the heavy body. They want to be different from the rest of them. And car sales was great and still is. My son has a 2019 GT Charger and he loves it. I love the tight turning radios

[@stephenfoley2317]

First off I want to say thank you to your channel, less than a month ago I bought a 2014 Challenger R/T. I know it isn't the fastest but it looks fantastic for an 8-year-old car. I plan on making this car mine for a long time. This is my first challenger or dodge of any sort that does not have a Dakota in the name. I have a 2000 Trans Am Ram-Air that I need to strip and bring back to life but I really wanted a newer more up-to-date muscle car. Long story, not so short, I found this challenger, and at 100k on the tac, I purchased it and I have loved every second of this car. Anyway, thank you for your videos, I have found a lot of useful information on the vehicle from your channel!!!

[@Hellcat-pg5pq]

I owned a Camaro and loved it, also an awesome Twin Turbo Supra but they never put a smile on my face like a Hellcat. I just feel it's the ultimate muscle car and more so than I ever dreamed that it could be. I have a ZO6 on order and I'm honestly wondering if it could possibly capture my enthusiasm as much as a Challenger Hellcat.

[@Hellcat-pg5pq]

@Pat Luxor hahahaha

[@Hellcat-pg5pq]

@Pat Luxor jealousy lol🤣 You never drove one. It's ok Fat or uh Pat

[@1415Challenger]

The sky is looking good behind you! glad you made it through the hurricane safely!

[@driv3n758]

I love my big beast just the way it is. Lighter would be cool but there would probably be some sacrifices on some things that make me love it so much

[@ardelld8465]

Very informative. Thank you RacerX.

[@bekkiware264]

Muscle Style Flair. That's why I bought my Challenger RT Classic in 2014. Best decision I ever made. Thank you for the video.

[@jogmas12]

I’d rather have a 70’ challenger if I was going ever own a challenger

[@SovereignKnight74]

Awesome video buddy! A lighter platform could definitely make a huge impact on handling and speed. I get why Dodge didn't do it, though. The Dodge Challenger has its own unique look, and I am fine with that. I am glad they kept the Challenger the way that it is.

[@helluvatime4562]

They did right by keeping the Challenger/Charger there, but that smaller platform would`ve been perfect for a Duster or Dart. I was a service tech at a D/C/J dealer for about 20 years and I remember the first time I saw a Challenger in person at the technician training center. I was like that`s a car that they don`t need to put the name on, because it screamed Challenger in every way. I loved the big roomy interior and muscle car feel of those things from the very beginning.

[@oldschool6268]

Racer X you did a great job covering all of dodge's high and low points , I have a ZL1 with OEM 1LE parts added, Dodge did a great job, the cars are roomy and fast, and there sales went through the roof ! If I could afford several cars a Redeye widebody would be in my yard, but the ZL1 was the best all around car. Great job to the dodge team !

[@Caddyrolling614]

Always good videos 🔥

[@jeffrykopis5468]

I know you focus on brand new cars, but I'd love to see a video about the CARBON FIBER '70 CHARGER body from Mopar and SPEEDKORE! How and where it's made, what it'll cost, where to get it, and ideas how to build one? For ME, I'd rather have a real Charger shell, with CF hood, fenders, bumpers, trunklid, and maybe even doors. But the original cowl, firewall, floor, doorjambs, roof, etc.

[@MichaelD429]

For me it's perfect.. I love it. My 2012 RT is a beast and even more so since I made upgrades. It wasn't a handling car then and it's not really now although you can fix that a bit and I have. I love the room it has. So for me in happy in love with her 🥰

[@RTBOY954x]

Man all that before 15 was ugly af in and out...

[@leopapio683]

Could have still been made lighter. Pretty sure you could've shaved atleast 600lbs just by updating the chassis, but they went with what tried and true

[@DWH300]

They used the old chassis because Stellantis didn't want to spend the money upgrading to a new one. In IMSA racing. No one uses a Challenger.

[@leopapio683]

@@DWH300 even before stellantis, they could have been updating the platform, they could've done it in 2014, 2015, and in 2018 when they went widebody. Even 100lbs here and there would have made the difference. But it's literally the same bones since it was reintroduced

[@Gam491961]

Well I took my SP to the track this last weekend. You were right could not get it to stick with those stock tires. So seeing you have one that you have put drag radials on. What wheels and tries do you recommend? It a 2022 with 20 275.

[@michaelwarren6295]

I'm glad they didn't change the Challenger much. I've owned 3. I had a 09 R/T, a 17 Scat Pack, and now a 18 Hellcat Widebody. All of them super fun. I like the old school looks. Too bad they won't be around much longer. Great video as always. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@eugenelucas6683]

One of the biggest issues that I loved about getting my challenger, is the 2 door sports car that I can get in and out of the car better than any other sports car. I really messed the V8 sound and manual options.

[@theramquest4advanture.]

For me who cares about faster, its about cruising and the Challenger is the best cruiser muscle car you can get now, so I think they did the right thing by keeping it how it is for so long.

[@keithadkins5845]

Love my 2022 Challenger Scat Pack added QTP Exhaust.

[@americanosbadassius9292]

We all love what Dodge has done, this just confirms what we've always known, that they didn't do as good as they could have. We all know that manufacturers are ultimately businesses that are looking at the bottom line and ultimately they're there to create a better life for themselves, like anyone with a business would try to do. Still, it would have been nice to have seen the kind of performance those legendary engines could have provided in a lighter and more capable chassis. If they had decided to further optimize the Challenger and Charger, it would have improved the muscle car breed across the spectrum - imagine how Chevy and Ford would have responded to the competition ...

[@jointhefist1016]

Still want to buy a challenger. Although there is better cars I probably could get for the money. Unless I get a used v8 one.

[@capricetony]

Totally Agree 👍

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

3:22 Dodge did use that platform at that time. (PF platform) Dodge Dart, & Chrysler 200. It just might be slightly scaled down like the Cherokee is from the Durango.

[@delvecchiorogers6598]

I’m also glad dodge didn’t change. I love the chassis they have been going with on the challengers, love my R/T 2019

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

Mercedes Benz.

[@matrox]

Lts face it...Dodge has a damn good marketing dept. Chevy has absolutely NO Marketing, and I drive a 17' SS camaro 6 speed. Chevy could be selling tons of camaros if they advertised them. Who here has seen a Camaro ad??

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

The platform is ok, but what they should've done was redesign the interior 'cause now it looks dated.

[@jasongilbert7281]

I am humbly requesting that you please put out a video in which you talk about the SRT 392’s. I cannot find a significant amount of material out there about them. Seems like everything is all about the Scatpack but these are two totally different cars. They honestly seem to be in a class by themselves & were produced for only 3yrs. Are they special cars in your opinion? Do you believe they going to increase in value & be valuable in the future? If I have a low mileage one should I put it away & treat it as an investment? How should I care for my car for the long term if it is going to be just sitting a majority of the time?

[@haroldbirge6881]

You had to show that 70 Challenger😩 I miss my 73 Challenger & charger my 69 super Bee my 69 Coronet 😆I need a time machine 🍀get R done😎✌️

[@alexsullivan9214]

Just just my opinion but Dodge should have went with the Julia platform I think it would have made a better car and still could have made it a muscle car on top of that that would have been really cool

[@ned_frankly]

Strongly disagree. The Dart was a Giuletta, a little Guilia. Alfa is expensive to fix and finicky as hell. The Mercedes that the current challenger is based on was the right choice. I've owned both, the Dart was a nightmare.

[@HCpov1]

Don't have to be heavy to be a muscle car. I'm sure they could have made that chassis lighter, while keeping the same shell of the car.

[@sub_zerotv3877]

Gotta love racer X…💪🏽

[@williamrose7184]

I don’t know maybe do it because you’re losing the race. A scat pack is the equivalent to a 5.0 GT and the 5.0 GT 10 speed beats a scat pack in a quarter mile.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

I think they did the right thing. The writing was on the wall with EV Implementation so for Dodge to use the Giorgio platform it would have been for only a couple years and now you've wasted billions of dollars on chassis development and you're still in the same boat as they are now. The Alfa is a very underrated performance sedan even the 2.0l is plenty quick but with the Giorgio Platform it had limitations as well Jeep found it out real quick like when they looked at it for Development on the Grand Cherokee remodel because it is extremely limited for use of Hybrid powertrains or EV implications. This is why the the STLA Large was developed. I think the Grand Cherokee sits on a modified Giorgio Global platform kind of precursor to the STLA Large. I've been watching what has been going on with Stellantis and all the products for the most part.

[@vettesweetnos]

Carbon engineering produces zero emission fuel now and it is better for the environment than EV. Won't need ev if fuel is zero emissions like they produce

[@barco581]

Spot on. Business decisions.

[@Nonchalant-uv7ht]

Can you use your connections to inquire on the Hellcat 6 speed manual for the last call year??????????

[@RoyalViking465]

Not a Mercedes chassis which alot of people get wrong..but they used suspension components (which Dodge changed the design and geometry) from the S and E class.. namely the control arms and 5 link rear suspension.The platform is a rengineered Chrysler LHS platform that underpinned the Chrysler Concord, Chrysler LHS, Chrysler 300M, Chrysler Yorker, Dodge Intrepid, and Eagle Vision.

[@Charles-cj5wc]

When I get mine I will definitely let you know about it if I have my way I will have more than one Challenger

[@Ringoluck]

In Tulsa they have 7250 off msrp on 2022 challengers. I bought one.

[@FaithfulServant316]

Some people want more room in their muscle car than the Stang & camaro.

[@leroycolejr2805]

This past Monday I looked at a 22 loaded sxt charger with AWD that car was almost 48k that's hemi price

[@michaelbuteau4183]

I have a 392 Challenger ta and I like that big giant car I think it's a lot more fun going around the corner with the tires burnin rather than grabbin and if I wanted to go around the corner fast I would just buy a bright red turbo Mustang,,, that made me laugh

[@erictate8986]

Racer X friend thank you 🇺🇸🇺🇸😃😃💪💪

[@enriqueae7532]

Get it, keeping it classic and heavy but more HP would have been nicer too.

[@JuanLopez-dk6qw]

RacerX we need some racing. Hunt for drag racing places.

[@RacerX9]

Its just now getting into race season here. I am working on getting something put in my car as well. More racing content to come

[@JuanLopez-dk6qw]

@@RacerX9 Go for it

[@trimecm1611]

My dealer says high ADM keeps the undesirables out

[@mikemclean6242]

I think they made a mistake. They could still make that chassis lighter. They basically just chose not to further optimize the car. That being said, these cars are built to a price point and a sales Target like everything else. So they made these muscle cars attainable for the average guy. But from a performance standpoint, they gave up some of that because of the weight

[@williamrose7184]

I’m not anymore the price point on these cars right now is absolutely ridiculous and I don’t know why anybody is buying them at this price. I seen a kid yesterday buy a hellcat for 90 gs…. I remember when hellcats were 60,000. I personally would not pay over $65,000 for a brand new hellcat. I got a dealership right now that sold me my brand new scat pack in 2019 for $40,000 call me up to sell me the same car oh but it has navigator for $52,000. I said it’s the same car I’ll do it for 46 but not a penny more and his response was no discount on scat packs and I said OK no sale on scat pack. I will not pay $52,000 for a base model scat pack, oh but it has navigation. My mother has navigation what the fuck does that mean. Lol you get my point. You are no longer paying the proper price point for these cars.

[@DWH300]

@@williamrose7184 Completely agree. Stellantis is making a killing selling these dated vehicles from $70,000 to over $100,000. Not what I consider a price point for the average buyer. Stellantis created all the hype introducing final addition sticker package Dodge Chargers and Challengers. Increased the price and car payments starting matching mortgage payments.

[@fredwilliams7893]

I mean if they could have updated the current body style and interior plus made it ligjter than why not. I love my 16 scat pack challenger but they could improve on it !

[@DeeeBeee123]

They should have done a big 3 for the electric cars. CHALLENGER, CHARGER, BARRACUDA. kept the charger 4 door and cuda & challenger coupes and got all 3 new bodys. 😝😝😝 that would have been crazy to see. So now theres not even a 4 door option. Now its just 1 charger coupe, "banshee" still cool but could have brought a whole new family to the electric world ⚡️

[@david01dc]

I would have liked an ACR version with the same old body, to take on the ZL1 and the Mustang

[@AbnEngrDan]

They did the right thing sticking with the Challenger body and chassis. They did the wrong thing giving it all up for EV. Sold my 2020 Scatpack last week for more than I bought it for. I'm in the market for a GT500. If Ford is sticking to their game, I'll roll with them. My first car was a 70 Mach I. I'm not a big fan of the modern Mustangs, but they have a few (like the GT500) that I like.

[@barco581]

Dodge decided to stick with the Challenger body and chassis. Stellantis decided to move to EV.

[@FullTimeGT]

I think they did not made a mistake. It was brillant. The end of production in the end of 2023 is plain stupid. Let's take the Guilia scenario. The Alpha Romeo Giulia have a very bad reputation in terms of reliability issues, recalls, etc. I think that American people would have left the brand much earlier as it would have lost it's Muscle Car Status to be a sports car, different audience. It would have killed the brand as we know it much faster than the year 2023. Competition is very high in the Guilia's segment. Do you see a RacerX channel content without any Challenger? Great video RacerX!

[@glbadboy1569]

Dodge did the right thing in my opinion .. I chose Dodge over the Mustang or Camaro for this reason… old fashioned heavy muscle car . Thanks for the video Racer X

[@erikfritts8240]

Don’t try it in a straight and don’t get into an accident with it. It is the MoPar mystique. Still remember my uncle raving about his 68 GTO. Big, solid, and first off the line.

[@houstoncowdog]

The Challenger is a much more comfortable car to drive than the Mustang and Camaro, especially for people 6’ and taller.

[@DanzigDemento]

I never understood the small wheelwells they should’ve figured out a way to fit wide tires without the widebody flares. Just seemed like a bandaid fix. As far as the future I wish the American auto industry would give a big finger to the politicians and make what the people want!

[@edwardhettiger4623]

I bought my car to have fun not to race people and I'm glad it's big because I'm big and I'm old And a smaller car would be harder to get in-and-out of

[@michaelpopp1783]

I love that it is a safe heavy car

[@sammiches2555]

I wish they'd straight up re-release a new 1970's body challenger with new performance tech.

[@paulperez-moparman67]

Hello RacerX, you know Raiti's Rides reviewed the New LAST 300C & he brought up something i never knew. & that is, the 2023 300C is smaller than the Charger & therefore lighter than the Charger & Challenger, is there any truth to that?

[@RacerX9]

I cannot see the 300 being any lighter than the charger.. same chassis, same engine, same breaks, etc. The previous 300s was actually slightly heavier than the charger version in similar trim

[@untalentedrapper8118]

My guy has me blown away dudes doing petitions for car dealership mark ups instead of doing petitions for our food at our local stores it’s getting ridiculous open your eyes folks it’s just gonna keep getting higher and higher and there’s ppl worrying about vehicles

[@doolallyproductions7234]

Im starting to get that spark again for 70s and 80s classics and starting to not care for new stuff maybe ill get a EV in the future but thats about it

[@N3SSo5]

Don't know the future. But just bought an Orange Package Challenger Scatpack WB before they disappear like dinosaurs.

[@marknelson801]

Yes, they did the right thing. That’s why I want one this year. It’s the best car for long-term ownership I think. When do you think they will open the 23 orders? My 22 order was not picked up and I’m told I have to order a 23 now. Dealers don’t seem to know much, but that’s always the case.

[@buddymorrissey]

When did you order yours? I ordered a Scat Pack NB 9/21, and have a VIN that comes up as a 2022, and it's scheduled for the end of October for build.

[@marknelson801]

Last month. I was told the WB and Hellrasin color were pulled days after I ordered and was asked to come in and change to a NB and new color to get it through. I plan to now go WB and plum crazy when ordering starts. The funny thing is, my wife is more excited to get the order in now. It’s the color she wants. Also, there is a 1970 Plum crazy challenger in the neighborhood and she loves it.

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

The Company would have to completely rework the Alfa Chassis to be able to have a successor to the Mercedes Benz platform they have been using since day one. But then again, it would have been possible to get a Manual if they had.

[@jamesmuller4886]

I just subscribed!

[@formula9377]

Dodge did the right thing. They through a bigger motor, bigger brakes and power at the car and they outsold both Camaro and Mustang numerous times and they spent millions in redesigning.

[@steelcowboy2751]

Lol. What the real truth is that they had great sales figures and the didn’t need to increase the cost to retool the manufacturing of a totally new challenger/Charger. I love it how people will accept anything they are told.

[@richardwray8478]

All Dodge deserves is to hear is Ford has a great new 5.0 liter V8 Musrang for sale. Dodge used to be so very cool. So sad.

[@danbyrd5237]

Oh the irony…didn’t want to get into someone else’s sandbox and now they’re literally getting into everyone else’s sandbox. 🤦‍♂️

[@sonofthemorningstar6566]

I’ve had a Challenger…..A Camaro ZL1 and Shelby gt350….I’m gonna tell ya….The Shelby is so much smoother and nimble when it comes to driving and handling…..and the Shelby sounds great….just my opinion.

[@evancontos2267]

I loved my Challengers, they are good the way they are, however, I wish they used the new platform for a Cuda!!!!! They didn't so I have the Mach1 now 😎😎

[@jogmas12]

Cuda is now defunct Plymouth

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

What bothers me about the whole Dodge thing is that they’re supposed to be “the brotherhood of muscle”, but they’re tapping out before Camaro and Mustang. THEN, they take the Banshee and add that horrendously weak and fake sounding “exhaust sound” that my iPhone could literally get louder than. Big disappointment there, I really think they could have gotten away with a few more years of V8’s, even if it meant dropping the hellcat power plant.