Here's Why I Am Changing My Tesla Model S Yoke To The New Round Steering Wheel

[@KyleConner]

Round steering wheel retrofit can’t come soon enough!

[@V10PDTDI]

will they add the stalks or just the round wheel. ?

[@_mo09]

@@V10PDTDI jsut the round wheel

[@tomhui87]

Sold Out! Bummer

[@williamlabarre4755]

Bottom line, a yoke steering wheel should have a strong variable response with at most a 120 degree right- or left-lock. It should never rotate. Thats what round wheels are for. 700 seems a bit pricey. At the beginning, it was rumored that you could choose between at no charge.

[@Cornelius87]

Exactly, this Tesla yoke is not really how a yoke is supposed to function because it rotates. As it is it's just a rectangle shape steering wheel. It's crazy that anyone would want to switch their steering wheel for a rectangle but here we are.

[@kurtmetzler9910]

@@Cornelius87 And now I understand everyone's frustration. I assumed it was a variable response. I found it ironic that there was a clip of an F1 cockpit while the Tesla yoke is suppose to suck. But hell yes, a rectangular steering wheel is weirdly bad. Maybe offer a wheel spinner option?

[@Anthony__420]

Hey Dave. Made it to florida in the model 3. Piece of cake plus charged at Hampton Inn when I slept for the night in Virginia and Jacksonville for free with destination chargers

[@joshmatlock1020]

I think it's cool that you can now option the round steering wheel on the S. That's the way I'd go for sure.

[@nycameleon]

Still no stalks with the round wheel, so you need to learn the thumb blinkers

[@daniml7258]

I’m a pilot and a yoke makes sense on a plane, it’s designed to use with one hand. In a car it just doesn’t work safely.

[@AlanTrades]

You could one hand it

[@illuminaughty2929]

Love how Tesla is capitalizing on its mistake installing a yoke for every Tesla they sold

[@greyghostproductions3408]

I believe that the yoke is one of Elon's boondoggles stemming from his, or at least his designers', insistence on being different. Presumably, the yoke is to make people feel like they are in an aircraft. But a car is not an aircraft. There are different requirements for driving a car and flying an aircraft. The reason a yoke works in an aircraft is that the maximum amount of deflection from center is 90 degrees. 90 degrees left of center and 90 degrees right of center. And that stems from the fact that you fly an aircraft with only one hand on the yoke. Your other hand is occupied manipulating the throttle. It's one of the hardest lessons that a new pilot has to learn, to use only one hand on the controls. In a car, the steering device, be it a wheel or a yoke, deflects at least 360 degrees from center, both left and right. So, let's compare: an aircraft yoke has a maximum rotation from stop to stop of 180 degrees, while a car's steering wheel or yoke has a maximum rotation of at least 720 degrees. The aircraft yoke is easily manipulated with one hand from stop to stop, the car's wheel or yoke takes 2 hands. Don't get me wrong, I love my Tesla. It's my second one, but I would not consider a car with a yoke. I believe it is too dangerous. Form follows function. There's a reason that cars evolved to use steering wheels instead of any of the other devices that have been used to control direction. It's the best device for that job.

[@JL-ho1tc]

Highway driving is much smoother with the yoke, turning is simple, the overall driving feel is so much sportier and it feels much more connected to the car with the yoke. I wish I could put a yoke on all my cars. If you don't like a yoke, it just means you can't drive.

[@JohnRoss1]

Get more information in the retrofit. . What happens to the driver airbag. For $700 would they use the old airbag?

[@pstraums]

If you live somewhere with no chance of ice/snow and only drives highways with not that many bends.. maybe the yoke is not a joke but for everywhere else? I'm kinda surprised it's even legal to use. There is evidence even within the outofspec videos why it should not be allowed in a car (imho). That said, thanks a lot for the videos you, Kyle and the crew all give us

[@jasondavis2945]

I am out here in Colorado and the Yoke is just fine. I have zero issues with it in the weather or tighter driving conditions.

[@pstraums]

@@jasondavis2945 Have you had a moose/fox or whatever run out in front of you while you drive in 60/70mph, or you getting in to a bend in the winter and suddenly it is real slippery and you need to quickly turn the wheel more than 180 degrees to compensate? My only problem with the yoke.. is we want LESS accidents.. This is not the solution as far as I can understand. When the car drives itself (and it will not in a LONG time) :) a yoke or joystick or whatever you prefer is ok, but we are FAR from that in 2023. Correct me if I'm wrong

[@jasondavis2945]

@@pstraums That's a pretty specific scenario so no; however, I do go through multiple roundabouts (big, small, dual) and even within the last hour found myself cranking on the Yoke at the carwash with no issues. It's like everything it just takes practice. I am far more concerned about my reaction time then I am the Yoke.

[@plustgraaf]

@@jasondavis2945 "It's like everything it just takes practice." Which is exactly the problem. The average driver has been trained for over 100 years how to drive with a circular wheel. Expecting them to react in an emergency to a different type of control is going against human nature. Every time that has been tried it has been a miserable failure.

[@EVunedited]

You can tell them to return you the yoke in case you want to put it back

[@henrycruz45cal]

Lol!!! If you have a yoke the round one looks appealing; if you have the round wheel, the yoke is more appealing

[@randyshanofsky9903]

Do it for Kathy! And I have to believe the Yoke belongs to you.

[@TassieEV]

Wow Dave, really for such a new car amazed how often you've had to have so many repairs. Must have been made on a Friday or Monday perhaps. Nice to hear you are getting a round steering wheel, guessing there was ALOT of pressure from owners or else they wouldn't have come out with them as an option.

[@markc7274]

I don’t know why you are surprised these issues are common with Tesla’s and on the boards. Most Tesla owners are like Dave and accept all of the issues to have these cars. Nothing wrong with that but buyers should be aware of a lot of issues when purchasing a Tesla and factor that into the buying experience.

[@markl3730]

Hi Dave, the round steering wheel is now “in stock” and available to order at the Tesla shop. I feel the same way as you do, the yoke is clever but not practical in emergency situations.

[@1sword4you]

So in summary, the Yolk is really good for situations where you don't have to steer the car? If it wasn't for those pesky regulations, Tesla would have integrated the pedals and steering into the touchscreen tablet.

[@TimpBizkit]

@@1sword4you steer it using A and D on the touch keyboard.

[@hgodtx]

Just ordered a MYP and seriously want to get a yoke. Great muscle memory advice for us 60+ year Olds!

[@Mguy393]

The yoke would make better sense for those that want it if Tesla actually designed the steering system to accommodate a steering ratio for the device. They yanked off a round wheel, replaced it with a "cool" yoke and didn't change anything meaningful to make it actually usable

[@edmundorivera5825]

Nice vid. I like to hear peoples opinion on the yoke from an ergonomics and style standpoint. The aftermarket scene on Tesla steering wheels and yokes is pretty redic. Highly customizable either way with OEM bases. The swap takes 15 minutes. Best.

[@richardbatschmann1901]

If you look at the Tesla site, the round steering will won't have any stalks either. Amcillary control are the same as with the yoke. . Having flown GA aircraft for a long time. driving my friends S Plaid on AP felt like flying a well trimmed airplane.

[@MS-wy4qj]

Will the new round wheel have the horn behind the airbag??? I have the best of both worlds. I added a yoke to one of the model Y’s. Absolutely love it! There is a learning curve to get used to it though. But I have stalks & a proper horn. I don’t drift the car or take it to the track. I feel it is safer than a round as on the highway in autopilot you want to hold onto the flat bottom. Very comfortable. Some will hate it, some will love it. Finally a choice for people which is the right decision.

[@johnpoldo8817]

I have a 2022 mS and like the yoke, but hate the tiny horn button. It would be better with variable steering and 180 degrees rotation. We need to learn what the new round wheel offers. Do we get a large horn button at center? Do we get a left stalk for directional signals and wipers? Probably not.

[@landonware_]

I’ve changed my yolk to the steering wheel, but whenever I turn auto pilot on, it still says there’s a yolk. How can I change it to the steering wheel?

[@MainStreetHustler]

Hey Dave, I love your content! I'm supposed to visit my local Tesla dealership by Americana Manhasset this week. Hopefully, I get to have the opportunity to test drive one of the different models. But, more specifically I will be looking forward to get the Model S with the rounded wheel. I never like the yoke steering wheel because it looks weird in a way but I supposed people like the yoke for a reason.

[@timoliver8940]

I’ve not experienced a yoke steering wheel but have on other modes of transport where it was fine as there was variable rate steering that was dead easy to get used to. I would imagine it’s a nightmare to use in Europe with so many roundabouts often very close together and worse still on mini roundabouts that are also very common.

[@mjfencer]

I swapped the yoke out of my Model X, and Tesla gave me the yoke to take with me. Best decision ever up here in the NE.

[@halemarine5991]

I agree with you completely

[@scottbreseke716]

There is a driving game in the Tesla menu. You can control that driving with your actual steering wheel. If you play that game with your yoke you will educate your muscle memory and be able to do real driving much better. Don't wait for real life emergency situations before you start to learn how to steer quickly with a yoke. Get Kathy into the game with the yoke too. But you don't usually drive like Kyle, who loves drifting. Cops will pull you over if you do a lot of drifting in real life. I test drove a new Model S LR with the yoke a few days ago. I thought I was going to hate it, but it was actually ok. It was a bit weird when I tried to do a U turn at the stoplight the first time, but I'm sure I'd get used to how to do that pretty quick. I'd just stick my fingers of one hand through the openings in the yoke, and spin the yoke with one hand. If I got a car with the yoke, I could put my 12.9" iPad on top of the yoke to read the morning news while I'm charging at the Supercharger. I think you get to keep the yoke if you buy the round steering wheel, so maybe you can try it both ways and switch back and forth at will.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yeah like what happens if you need to grab it and the yok is spinning from lock to lock? Like in sim racing you can expernice that by putting a F1 yoke on a force feed back wheel base and ttry to drive a high horse power RWD car quickly with out the safeties... It can get nuts.... Which for me while I like yokes in old warbirds I would never use one IRL as I drive with my hands on top of the sport grips at the good old 10 and 2 as it gives me more finer control over the wheel... Like I've tried the Yoke hand position with my 2020 mustang and it makes me half as confident and my Ecoboost mustang can spin out at full throttle even in normal drive mode so when I need power I need control... And have done it twice if my car had a yoke I would have spun out and either hit a tree or go into on coming traffic... So yeah if Telsa made the yoke like a F1 car with a limited rotation and you hand horizontal to the center line may be... But not this we chopped off half a wheel nonsense. Whichh I've been driving for 12 years not counting games and sims and I'm 27 but yeah great discustionn and thanks for sharring!

[@evflyguy]

I have no doubt I would also get used to the yoke if I had to, but the fact remains the yoke isn't inherently better at anything (when it comes to road cars) except maybe Teslas bottom line and as you said, being a conversation piece. I'm not happy about it being mandatory in my upcoming Aptera.

[@thomaswilson2917]

So you prefer looking thru a steering wheel?

[@matthewp1682]

Ive had a model s for years and I have had all 4 door handles fixed at least once and 2 of then fixed teice

[@scottbreseke716]

First half hour of car ownership, do nothing but sit in driveway and practice Model S turn signals and horn. Might irritate your neighbors, but there will be no issues after that.

[@juggy666]

Joystick steering next! Or even…. Mouse!

[@Yanquetino]

Glad to hear your service has been good, Dave. I can't say the same. As for steering, I never thought the yoke was a good idea, and would never opt for one, but -holy guacamole!- whenever I've expressed that preference, mobs of Elon Isherwell fanbois immediately jump in to claim that the yoke is "genius." Meh. I'll be interested to see your follow-up on this.

[@KJSvitko]

Tesla needs to open more service centers and collision centers. Having to drive to the next state for service or repairs is not acceptable.

[@dialy1]

The yoke is waaay better than a round steering wheel. You just have to know that you need to lower it to the max. Because of its shape, it will still allow you to get in and out of the car easily even if you are very tall. When driving, you can now rest your forearms on your thighs while holding the bottom corners of the yoke and be in total control unlike a round wheel. Also, when using FSD, you can now easily tap the corner of the yoke with your knee when getting the nag if you don’t want to keep your hands on it. 😉

[@MSH3423]

Yoke looks cool, but round is better. Hate the button turn signal and horn

[@curlsbynat9763]

I million percent agree with your wife. When I do get the tesla X I will opt for the steering wheel.

[@dianaharnisch7890]

Hey Dave, there are some days where my steering wheel is hot to the touch, has that happen to anyone. Should I be concerned.

[@slyguyaction]

I really like the yoke and I'm hoping Tesla lets you keep it. That yoke alone is a huge differentiator and selling point if/when you decide to sell your Model S. For safety? Yeah, I get it. We've all learned to drive modern vehicles that have a round steering wheel and if my missus was hesitant to drive our Model 3 because it had a yoke, I'd consider swapping a round one in too. Please keep us updated with this and the stuck power seat.

[@Vikingj72]

People who own Teslas are Soooooo very protective of the choice they made. When problems with these cars are known, they get swept under the rug. You have had problems that, if it were say a VW ID4, it would get hammered because of build quality. Since this is a Tesla, we only hear about the steering wheel design. Model S is supposed to be the flag ship. Fit and finish problems that arise quite often on Tesla seems to be accepted with pride of ownership.

[@hgodtx]

Dude! What camera were you using? Audio is awesome!

[@sgill4833]

Ditto with the stalks

[@manaktala2]

I live in Long Island too so yoke is not bad unless someone cut you off but I’m not sure. I paid $165000 and broke to spend another $700 😂😂😂

[@genosails2]

XYL rules. Happy VD.

[@js3085]

You are going to miss that yoke!!!

[@EVunedited]

I asked them to leave me my old center console and even the bad door handle

[@guyg2005]

Test drove the S and hated the yoke, so ruled the S out. Got to have a round steering wheel. Pull the trigger.

[@scottbreseke716]

I test drove the new Model S LR with yoke, and to my surprise I didn't hate the yoke. Maybe it's best to own both kinds of steering wheels and swap around sometimes.

[@curlsbynat9763]

I'm assuming they would let you keep the yoke considering you did pay for the yoke.

[@marstav4640]

Curious about the father in law's perspective on EV's. A ride video with him could be very engaging.

[@eddieair23]

Would you recommend getting a Model S? I want one but, I’m worried about its reliability out of warranty!! The Model 3 has a higher reliability rating but.. it’s not for me frankly

[@scottbreseke716]

I test drove one a few days ago. I recommend you try this. It was interesting. Now I'm not sure if I want to upgrade to a Model S LR or trade in for another Model 3 P.

[@Padie600]

The yoke is yours. U own it.

[@manaktala2]

I still got to see how it looks😂

[@ja163361]

Love my Yoke. It makes the car unique and I have never had a problem with it.

[@whitakerbennett9310]

The new round wheel has the horn in the middle

[@papadave9061]

You've already paid for the yoke, and you'll be paying for the round.....they'll both belong to you.

[@mev202]

So, Tesla sell you something that is dangerous and quite frankly ridiculous. And then charge you to change it. That's some questionable business practice.

[@laloajuria4678]

you havent heard of qElmo have you?

[@Anthony__420]

You have a choice now and it’s no charge before delivery. Who said it was dangerous

[@tedbundy2379]

@@Anthony__420 People who have one say it.

[@JetFire9]

Honda sells motorcycles. They are very dangerous. If you want, Honda will sell you a car that is much safer. Feel stupid yet?

[@mev202]

@@tedbundy2379 Anthony has clearly not watched the video where Dave actually says, it is dangerous in a panic situation. Anthony probably pays for a blue tick.

[@thomaswilson2917]

I disagree with you. Have a 2022 model S that I put 14k miles in 6 months. I have zero intetest on drifting on the highway As far as grabbing the yoke in an emergency I drive with my hands on the wheel. Been driving for over 50 years and do not instinctively try to grab air as you said. Prefer not having to look thru a steering wheel

[@dconner9]

Good news is the optionality is there for both of us To be happy. How cool is that? Respect your stance and thanks for watching!

[@thomaswilson2917]

@@dconner9 have not had all the issues with my Tesla that you experienced. Also interesting on how many people comment on something they have not tried. You should drive a vehicle for at least 1000 miles before you make comments. Nothing wrong with giving a choice. I would be disappointed if I picked a wheel instead of the yoke knowing what the yoke experience is after driving the yoke for 14k miles. Yes a yoke might not be the best choice for drifting but I don't see drifting a requirement for highway driving. Bought the model S for tripsm 12k in trips in 6 months is not bad. Including one to Colorado.

[@guyg2005]

I’m 6’4”, you’re 6’4” and neither of us are Twiggy. Surprised you like falling into the S. Why not the X?

[@dconner9]

I have had the X. Love the windshield; don’t love the rear doors or looks as much. But the windshield is amazing. Plus, I fall gracefully :)

[@genosails2]

@@dconner9 You are as smooth as Tennessee Whiskey. I admire your video presentations.

[@stevelabree497]

You own the yoke and you are paying for another steering wheel. Like when you replace wheels you get to keep the old wheels, the same has to be true for the yoke. Else if Tesla wants to keep the yoke, they should have to buy it from you or do the replacement for free.

[@scotduckrow8524]

Too bad you replaced the yoke steering wheel with the abrasion so quickly, might have received a round replacement for free.

[@laloajuria4678]

thats not how that worked.

[@trainingtheworld5093]

In a nutshell, it sucked and to fix this dangerous "feature" that conman will charge you $700 US. Just sell the damn thing.

[@undrachvrsage]

TFTC

[@KJSvitko]

Old people are resistant to change. Embrace the yoke.

[@KyleConner]

Bad take

[@karthik11512]

Tesla Yoke steering without variable steering ratio, is very much dangerous and just bad.

[@scottbreseke716]

John Lennon did.

[@PMD220S]

The steering wheel has worked on vehicles for over 100 years….there was no need to change its design on a passenger vehicle other than to try and be different.

[@scottbreseke716]

@@PMD220S Ah, but horses and camels didn't have them!