Here's Why The 997.1 Porsche Carrera 2 S is Now The Perfect First 911

[@LukeMarthinusen]

This is my first Porsche. Was relatively affordable. Love it. 3 years on, definitely not even close to thinking of selling it.

[@keithjackson4985]

Good for you man. Enjoy. Plan to buy one in the future. Not ready just yet, but one day. I wish you success.

[@HeyhitmeBAM]

How was it affordable?

[@joeracer302]

@@HeyhitmeBAM they said “relatively affordable” not “affordable”

[@HeyhitmeBAM]

@@joeracer302 ohhhh ok. Lol

[@Philly5G]

Did you buy this from Strasse in Leeds Luke? If so, I think I drove it 3 years ago 😎

[@RaviFernandez]

Hey James, I’ve had my 997.1 for 12 years with 162k on the clock now! And couldn’t part with my previous 911, a 993, which I’ve now had for 20 years. That one’s done 104k. Still use the 997 every day and love every minute :-)

[@chartreux1532]

+Ravid Fernandez This fits my Experience. These are quite reliable! I also 100% agree on this being the perfect first 911 to get. I don't know about the UK but here in Germany these are soooooo insanely common on the car marketplace and rather "cheap".I'm sure they will rise in Price but as of now, definitely worth getting. These are also very reliable so it's not one of those Cars you can buy "cheap" but then have insane maintenance costs. Though i must add that for obvious Reasons here in Germany Maintenance Costs are way cheaper than elsewhere, we got "Porsche-focused" Repair/Work Garages in almost every other Town. So if something goes wrong or something needs to be fixed/replaced, it usually isn't expensive and almost just like bringing your VW to a VW Workshop for work.

[@amac8487]

@@chartreux1532 what’s funny about your comment, is that here in America, VW is actually pretty darn expensive for service as well hahaha. I know what you meant though :p

[@EtonieE25]

@ Ravi. Hey Ravi what has been the running costs of the 997.1 over the years and at this high mileage? Thanks 😎

[@gnaegi444]

A road queen ! Bravo !

[@Zanzabar5]

I'm getting a 997.1 tomorrow morning. Can't wait and love to hear the miles you're getting out of it.

[@The.Mr.M]

6 year owner of a 997.1 C2S, love the car and have recently considered selling. Watching this video reminds me why I love it so much. DSC controller, bilstein coilovers, exhaust and a few other updates has really brought the car to a special driving experience.

[@LC-rj6ok]

Did the DSC make a big difference before changing to coilovers and did you have PASM? I’m not sure if I should change the DSC with the current PASM and some lowering springs or just go for coilovers.

[@andyfriar9599]

I've had my 2008 997.1 C2S for 3+ years and it's been excellent. They are cheap to look after if you use the extensive specialist network, and if you're inclined, they are easy to work on with advice from the thriving owner community including on YT. It also hasn't depreciated anywhere near the rate of everything else I've owned (recent used car market madness acknowledged)

[@BAC_Mono]

James, this is spot on. A couple of months ago I sold my much loved (and totally reliable) BMW 650i and bought a 997.1 manual. It's everything I imagined a Porsche should be, and I really can't imagine the new ones being any better. It's been to Center Gravity (yes that is the correct spelling, it's the best place to go for 911 setup and well worth the £350 or so it costs, you also get a full mechanical inspection) for a Geo setup and drives fantastically well. It's not better than my other 'fun' road car (a 1991 Honda NSX) but is very complimentary. It's so small and well proportioned for todays cramped roads and the drive train is so refined.. As a daily driver it's just about perfect. I use mine as a daily driver. £30 to replace the sticky ac switches and £140 to fit a bluetooth receiver and it's everything you need. Don't fuss about the bore scoring issues and just get one is my advice to anyone wondering. PS you can inspect the cam deviation data to see whether your IMS bearing is likely to fail, so it's not as much of an issue as people think. Also fitting a low temperature thermostat can reduce the risks apparently. (BMW 650i and then this, some say I like living dangerously!)

[@joeracer302]

If the engine has an issue just bite the bullet and call up Vision Motorsports for a 4.0L stroker. When purchasing the car mentally set aside some funds for this eventuality and you’ll be happy when it comes time.

[@georgel3657]

How much should one allocate for that?​@joeracer302

[@qikqbn77]

Have had a 997.1 C4S for over 12 years now. Have put almost 100k miles on it. Love it to bits. I have driven the newer ones and to me, they are not worth the trade in, upgrade and price. The 997 still checks a lot of boxes for me and still exciting to drive every time I jump in to it and go for redline. With a few mods it can really dial in the sharpness and excitement even more. No plans to sell. It's a keeper. The early 997's are 17 years old now. Name any other car that is 17 years old, drives like this and some how will never need a possible engine refresh in the future. There are none. Point being, ALL cars will need some TLC at some point in their life if they are driven as designed and bring the owner great joy while doing it. Glad to see you give the 997 some love and respect. Keep up the good work .

[@j.1985]

S2000 perhaps?

[@analogguy5548]

I’m the anti-new car - car guy. I’m 75 and my 2018 Mustang GT PP1 is my 5th car. I have always paid cash, as in NO CAR LOANS. This doesn’t mean I don’t love cars - I loved all my cars & I love taking care of them. Something very satisfying about driving a great drivers car with 200,000 + miles. In all those years the only on road break down was my 1970, heavily modified & raced VW Beetle - My buddy and I were able to replace the blow engine with a replacement from a wrecked VW on a Saturday afternoon! That said I enjoy all your videos - Happy motoring.

[@VS-qd5qw]

Finally the 997.1 C2S gets some appreciation. Its the right size, great 6-speed gearbox, enough power and you can actually feel the road beneath you - price is stupidly low, better than ANY standard newer 911s. All it needs is a nice touch screen to bring it into 2022. (Owner for 13 years).

[@callummccubbing4506]

Agreed. There are obviously the PCCM+ for 997.2 with apple car play but I guess putting that into a .1 wouldn't look too out of place?

[@garoglasser]

The good news is Porsche are bring out a new Apple play headset for the 997 that was supposed to be out later this year and is on my shopping list, I know you can buy other ones to fit but I will wait for the original version but I will need to replace the speakers as the are not the best.

[@prestonjuvenal1739]

Ordered the PCCM+ to update the com system wi h apple car play, but no Bluetooth. Best upgrade, DSC sport controller for PASM suspension….the cheaper 997 C2 Tip.

[@toxicdrifter8179]

low price? wtf, i see them for 40-45k eur. for that money you can buy a lot better cars imo

[@Vic-E.]

​@@toxicdrifter8179such as?

[@psantangeli]

Drove an 87 Carrera cab for 20 years. Moved to a high milage 997.1 C2S cab a couple of years ago. Just crazy how they managed to keep all the great things about the older cars but make is a totally modern experience too. Love it to bits.

[@chrisroden4098]

I’ve owned one for 2 years, 2005 C2S in silver, PSE, PASM, love it more now than the day I got it…..hard to think of anything to replace it with, review is spot on

[@MrElnuno]

I bought my 997.2 in 2015 while living in London, and loved it so much I shipped it back to Australia with me when I returned home. The car still sits in my garage today and is going beautifully. To be honest I can't really imagine selling it ever such a great car that it is...

[@eightfivetwohk13]

Was the process getting the car into Aussie straight forward and did you get stung by the taxman?

[@MrElnuno]

@@eightfivetwohk13 yes it was fairly easy using a Aussie based broker who does all the paperwork but tax is quite hefty. You need to factor this into your buy price

[@eightfivetwohk13]

@@MrElnuno I guessed as much. The ATO always like their bit on the top.

[@georgel3657]

Cars here (AUS) are so much more than the UK though, my FIL wanted to come over and bring his R8, he would be quids in if he sold it after

[@Matt77346]

My first Porsche was a 2006 997.1 C2S manual in Guards Red and it was fantastic. This car started my love of the brand. I'm now onto my 5th Porsche and currently enjoying a pristine 987.2 Cayman S manual. You just cant go wrong in a Porsche. I also LOVED my 996 C4S, headlights and all. Great cars...

[@Breakchecks]

Of these 3 you mentioned here, which do you prefer for driving experience and in what transmission?

[@Matt77346]

@@Breakchecks All of these cars were in manual. I had a PDK in a Panamera GTS and it was good but I prefer manual, its just more engaging for me. The 987.2 S with the MA1 engine is going to be more reliable overall IMO than either the 996 or 997.1 which may have rare but potential IMS or bore score issues. Neither of those issues should scare a buyer, really just need to take it into consideration and do a good inspection. The feel of the Cayman is "lighter" and more playful than the 911's and the 996/997 is more planted leaving a corner and arguably the better long distance cruiser. The sensation of speed is higher in the Cayman and it is more nimble/agile feeling. Honestly, it has the best actual driving experience out of the 3 IF you prefer a raw and more engaging drive. The 996 C4S is second only because it feels heavier and the 997.1 is third, because it is more refined than the 996 so not quite as raw, IMO. Hope this help!

[@MarJay1980]

I'm glad you mentioned bore scoring... There are some specialists who won't touch a 3.8 gen 1 997 because the bore scoring is almost inevitable. IMS is definitely overblown I think, although it's impossible to know if it will or will not happen on any given early car. Either way, I paid quite a bit more for a 997.2 C4S manual. I wanted a 2 but I couldn't find one with the spec and colour I wanted, so I settled for the 4. I'm told the .2 4s has a different 4 wheel drive system to the .1 and puts much less power to the front wheels on a routine basis, only shoving torque their way when needed. I have experienced such a situation when I managed to aquaplane my car... The car did sort it out but it took a moment and I was... concerned. Still, I'm glad of the safety net, and the car is immense fun. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly disappointed with the overall performance, but I have a 1000cc motorcycle for that so nothing short of a McLaren would impress on 4 wheels. The porker has a different more subtle appeal; it worms it's way into your affections. I absolutely adore mine. I love the looks, I love the way it goes around corners, I love the interior, I love the smell, I love the way it makes me feel. I'm not so big on the maintenance costs, but I found a tame specialist who I really like and so it's not thrown me too many big bills (a/c condensers... ouch!) Great vid James, as always. You did get a bit lambasted on some porsche groups for your 997 turbo review, but there's no pleasing some people and it seems you've redeemed yourself with this. Say nice things about 997.1s and the internet 997 massive will love you.

[@MarJay1980]

(oh, and my last car I had for 11 years, it was a 130i with the Birds suspension kit and M3 lower arms. Nothing short of the Porsche could tempt me out of it which is high praise for a hatchback!)

[@Porsche_911_Experience]

The best first Porsche 911 is the one you can afford. My first one was a 996 Targa. Loved it once I got in it-Still have it 3 years later and added a 997 Turbo 6 months later

[@peteralterskye9661]

You are the best utuber By Far covering car reviews - great style, great input - always relevant. Keep up the great work

[@jasonasher9644]

A few weeks ago I bought a 2006 Carrera S Guards Red/Natural Brown and pick it up Wednesday. My first Porsche.

[@ism671]

Congratulations ! enjoy 👍

[@danrook5757]

Congrats Jason, drive safely

[@adrianbennett3761]

Natur Brown was quite an expensive upgrade

[@mr.13zn83]

Also went to Stuttgart, at the time they also had a special order factory . When I arrived they were just completing special order work on the Oman Royal Bodyguard's Fleet of cars , they were Lambo LM002 . Quite a sight all lined up with the Royal Crest on the side !

[@TheDayisMineTrebeck]

Just picked up a 2008 s 6spd last month with 51k miles. Had a fabspeed performace package and a classic rs mini ducktail spoiler installed. With roughly 400bhp now, it's so much engaging car to drive than our previous e92 M3. My wife loves rowing the gears through the country roads of upstate GA. I don't think we'll ever sell it; an absolutely perfect weekend car.

[@georgel3657]

Now THIS sounds amazing

[@joe718gt4]

This was a dream car for me back then... such a great refresh after the 996

[@Ztandard32]

Bought a 997.2 over 4 years ago and so far it costs less to run than my Skoda Fabia. Looks great and wonderful to drive. It's a keeper.

[@ruimpinho]

How does that work out? Lower depreciation?

[@Ztandard32]

@@ruimpinho Service is every other year for the 997. Nothing has gone wrong with the 997. The Skoda is much newer by the way. Insurance is about the same. Road tax is a little more for the 997. Depreciation on both cars is pretty low at the moment. I am assuming this won't last forever, but even if I had a big bill it would be worth it.

[@richardstoddard6647]

Bought my 997.1 about three years ago. It’s a keeper. It’s red with gold wheels and Porsche script down the side. You drive most other cars, but you pilot these. Great vid. 👏👏

[@CarMadElliot]

My dad also bought one of these when I was a boy in 2006 and went on track days, many memories. Place in my heart for the 997.1C2S too

[@nickmoulton446]

I had a 2005 997.1 C2S Cabriolet. It was great, for 3 years. Swapped it for a V8 vantage & regretted it. Somehow I still had the 997, so sold the Vantage. Now got a 991.2

[@Jonathan-do1sj]

Whyd you regret it? Thinking about "upgrading" to a V8 sports car ( Ftype, Vantage, etc.)

[@nickmoulton446]

@@Jonathan-do1sj the automated manual gearbox is seldom smooth especially at manoeuvring speeds, the engine failed & needed to be replaced, the car was absent for 4 months, I still had the 997 as I wanted something to drive. When the vantage came back & I needed to choose (space limitations) it was no contest. The best place to be when a vantage drives by is on the pavement watching

[@jazzragu]

Following M2 ownership, this was my first Porsche a couple of years ago and it was a daily. Delightful! Always started up and pretty reliable. Used a lot of oil so and had a few other issues so 3 weeks out of action, but then worked delightfully again. Changed into a 718 Cayman S subsequently- as needed something with updated infotainment and reliability for daily. Good review, and I agree about the lobster claws- they looked epic on 997.1 CS. I had blue extended leather but worked well with exterior colour.

[@jazzragu]

I had the sports exhaust switch… and that noise was a riot! I remember clutch being incredibly heavy (felt like my knee was going to wear out) but I suspect the clutch spring was wearing out.

[@tayecannon]

Got an 07’ 997 during covid when the prices were down. Best decision. Runs like a top and a dream to drive

[@daveg8htfadlibaudio250]

Hi James, I have one of the very last 997.1 C2 S cars in Cobalt blue and it has only just turned 17000 miles from new but being one of the last it has the 385 hp engine fitted according to the owner's manual, and honestly it makes me smile every time that I drive it, and unless somebody offers me a silly price, I am keeping it. Regards Dave.

[@nelsonclub7722]

Porsche now do an entertainment upgrade package for many older Porsches - not sure what cost but Apple Carplay etc - I did and it was so worth it - brings it up to date tech wise

[@eze8970]

Thanks J, glad you enjoyed it & had good memories to! 🙏

[@os3990]

Scared of bore scoring. Still want one

[@EvoraGT430]

Rightly so. Also crankshaft wear, camchain guides wearing out and AOS failures.

[@danrook5757]

I bought c4s that needed engine re build. Had it upgraded to 4L , now it’s a supercar

[@os3990]

@@danrook5757 hartech? Also how much (roughly)

[@coreykononchuk]

It made a perfect first 911, and second 911, too! I had nearly-identical spec 2005 997S manual coupes. Loved those cars, but I don't know that I could stomach the $20k average price increase following the pandemic. I was lucky to get both of mine with low-ish miles under $40k USD and neither one needed any major repairs.

[@lqr824]

14:50 these fine criticisms about steering could be down to tire model, wear, and alignment. My '95 Supra was so different on it's crisp MXX3's (with extremely short range) vs. snow tires vs. Pilot Sports.

[@jimsilva1057]

I have had a 2007 977.1 Carrera Cab. for 4 years. It is my first and only Porsche. It has been absolutely reliable and so much fun to drive.

[@SciroccoThePunisher]

Natural aspirated,manual and rear wheel drive sports car ,best fun to drive car!

[@MultiMarciano]

once again very nice review and above all the editing and the sound it's spectacular..no doubt you really know what you doing..thanks again

[@shawnmungur4875]

3 years is the expected turnaround time for a car!? I've owned my Porsche since 1999! But the 997.1 is the one I would trade for.

[@RavenElegance]

I have three cars (Windom, Airtrek turbo and Celica), which I have kept for 16, 9, and 5 years respectively.

[@johnchan5356]

I also own a 997.1 since 2005 and its a C2S as well. This is the best valued 911

[@mattmanslim]

I believe Nicholas Found of Retail Economics (previously Retail Week) would suggest the optional sports exhaust to release the best of the 3.8.

[@nicholasfound]

The optional PSE is a match made in heaven, as James also suggested. Fantastic review @Jay Emm on Cars

[@frederickschulze8014]

15:33 The bushings being creaky probably explains the steering. I'm sure with all new bushings, it would feel super crisp like the other 911s.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I had this very model that I bought new from Porsche Reading in 2006. Silver, blue leather, C2S same carrera alloys. I loved it and only sold it because work took me abroad.

[@cervelo9465]

Keeping a car for 5 or 10 years is simply good practice. 997 gen 1, very serious potential issues with bore score and IMS. 911 is a good lifetime car. These standard cars do look very mild. In my showroom I had a 997 4S and a 996 Turbo and they were both very nice cars. The 996 Turbo very noisy in the cabin when being used at higher speeds.

[@gregs8685]

I would take a Mezger-engined 996 turbo over a 3.8L 997.1 any day. 997s may look nice but the 3.8L M97 engines are ticking time bombs that in most cases will cost half the value of the car to fix.

[@niallmcmahon8748]

I bought my 997.1 c2s in may last year as a stop gap whilst I waited for the Emira to come out. Now I'm not sure I can sell it. It's bloody marvelous. So involving, precise and simultaneously useable. I think I prefer it to my previous Noble, Tuscan and certainly my 996TT. Surprised there is no mention here of the delicious kick you get at around 5.5k - almost like a cam profile change. Surely it's not just mine? Exhaust bypass is an affordable alternative to a sports system and sounds wonderful if you take it to the right people (H&S).

[@Nb61777]

I’m in the market for a 997 or an Emira as well! I love how the Emira looks but it is also a brand new car and I’d think Porsche has perfected their craft at this point. Did you think about a newer Cayman? Similar price to the 997 but newer, less miles.

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

This car has always been peak porsche in my opinion. I bought a 996 to restore because of price range, but early in the year I “met my hero” through a friend who owned one of these, in a similar color at that (also 40k miles). It was phenomenal as a package. The steering was vibrant with feeling, the engine sounded perfect fully stock, and the PASM was a super modern and helpful touch. It felt like a way more daily usable and faster version of my 996. That being said, I flew back home a few days later and hopped in my little 996 (granted with some track modifications), and I felt the exact opposite of buyers remorse. Nonetheless, I still wish I got more time in that car, and I hope to have one in the future to go along with my 996.

[@flat6croc]

Extended leather was standard on all 997 Carreras in the UK. Base and S.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

I had the IMS bearing issue with mine. 15k bill for a new shortblock. I have to say I was absolutely livid because the damn thing had just had 3k spent on it replacing the rear shocks and a few other bits on the exhaust system.

[@alfpetzer5812]

Interesting reflection. I had a 997.1 C2, sold it and after some testing (M3, C63, R8 V8) replaced it with a 991.2 C2. Everything was great so far. But after a season and some thinking, I had to admit to myself that I couldn't get the 997 out of my head. I then sold the 991 and bought another 997.1 C2. As we know, reselling is not a big problem, so the whole thing was relatively painless financially. What's more, this time I deliberately chose a 997 with almost no additional equipment, which underlines the pure character of this car. Any gadget too many is a disadvantage in this car. The "why": First of all - the 991 is certainly the better car because it is simply the more modern car. But from my point of view, which is that of a rather purist driver and will not apply to everyone, this also has disadvantages. The electromechanical steering in the 991, for example, is much smoother, but is no longer as fascinating as the old hydraulic steering in the 997, where you have the feeling of sitting in a kart that reads your directional wishes from your eyes. The interior is too annoying for me, I'm bombarded with information that doesn't interest me and distracts me from driving. Less is more here. The engine is quite cool, but at the end of the day it doesn't really have that much more steam, but lacks the free revving character of the naturally aspirated engine. The 997 simply has more drama. All in all, it is simple the more analogue, more involving, more entertaining car to drive. Also it’s predecessors are a tad to slow for my taste by todays standards. So to me at least this really is the sweetspot.

[@SportsandGT]

Was going to get the 997.1 C2 non S which would have been my first 911. Decided on another car completely but the 997 is still on my “one day” list.

[@lbco5229]

I’ve got a 997.1 S Cab manual - I LOVE IT! I drove a 991 last year and didn’t notice enough of a difference to desire the newer model.

[@eddie-o5u]

I have a 1992 964 C2 cab, and a2008 997.1 4S. Both different cars but with the same dedication to the driver and quality of build. Love both! Never selling. Couldn't wish for a better 1-2 punch!

[@AAlx77]

Thank you for this great review! You need to try an E46 M3 CSL to change your mind on that model as well.

[@DoubleOSeven007]

My first Porsche too. Absolutely love it. The ‘steering’ is very noticeably better than anything else.

[@dickie997]

Had mine for 18 years, still love it. Done 50 track days in it, awesome.

[@iconicon5642]

Ten years! - had my Volvo 240 Turbo SE Estate for 17 years. Brilliant as wardrobe, student digs, removal vehicle and for taking stuff to markets.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Awesome car. I was looking at one before the prices went to the moon. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

[@FepXBL]

Own a 997.1 Targa, and I'm planning on buying a spare engine just to track the car and do other motorsport events. Easier for me to change a spare engine and rebuild them than replace a car that doesn't need improving. Markets will always fluctuate, and 911's will typically hold value and then spike with consumer interest -- so the best time to buy was yesterday, and second best time is now.

[@morphyon]

I have one daily driver, I wish I had the will to jump into an additional pleasuere vehicle, but that won‘t happen very soon. The daily driver was carefully selected after its predecessor was nearly driven to the ground by me. I intend to do it the same way with its current incarnation (so we are speaking 10 years+ of additional ownership, somewhere aiming at 300-500 thousond kilometres at the clock). I just hate to have to replace a perfectly working vehicle that I am taking care of with no good reason. I am currently single, it‘s a midsize estate that accomodates all the sports tools I use and could accomodate a small family, if the need arised.

[@britboy70]

I used to change cars every 6 months or so until I bought a Boxster S brand new in 2002. I kept that car for 10 years while I rotated through SUV's as my second car. I eventually had to sell it as I inherited a word with 2 kids and I needed extra seats and got a 3 series convertible that I also had for about 10 years until my daughter totaled it 😥

[@ruimpinho]

Time for another porsche, but hide the keys somewhere else :)

[@aplanedividedthesky]

I seem to collect unloved models. Over the years, I ended up with a 348ts and a 996tt in my shed.

[@ism671]

Me too ! You get more value for money,and if you keep it long enough,will make money...Still regret selling my 348 tb challenge bought it in 2000 for £25k sold it in 2006 for £25k now worth £75-80k 😪

[@justinmaccreery2490]

Thanks for another great video. Cheers from across the pond in Charlotte, NC

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

Nice vid Jay. Now you need to add a C2S X51 pack to the list of vids to round it all out. The X51 doesn’t look like much on paper, but she was underrated by the factory and the parts list is both extensive and interesting to say the least.

[@charliehyde5493]

Brilliant brilliant cars!

[@TheMusicFan1297]

My grandfather had one and it went like a rocket on the Autobahn 😌

[@maxmartin-merrells3723]

My dad made bank in 2006 and bought one of these new. Two years later he swapped it for a cabriolet and had owned it ever since. It’s white and sexy as hell. Meanwhile mum still drives her Toyota Corolla😅 prices are rising for these in Aus and we are all begging him not to sell it but he says he needs the money. Sad times. Great car, sounds mega and looks sexy on the road especially with the roof down 🤤

[@thenovello-pugh]

I have a Hartech engined C2. Great car and a keeper. I've been lucky enough to have owned and driven various fast Beemers, Audis, Fords and Evos, but for me there is just something about the 911...

[@alkoma4586]

Ever driven a c6 corvette?

[@grivoc]

I got a 997.1 Carrera 2. It's been great. Over three years I've done a shifter cable, battery terminal cable and water pump. Nothing too extreme. And everything I've done myself has been very easy (especially oil changes). And of course it's been an absolute joy to drive.

[@trevorleggo1777]

Always wanted a Porsche but I must tell you, a good 911 of any vintage is way more expensive here in Australia than you lot pay. Nonetheless, I would have one if I could afford it. Have for many years thought a 997.2 would be the pick, for all the motor updates and more, we all know, they're particularly expensive here. Just lately I had thought the 997 may just have to do and they also currently represent value here. Your video JE, just absolutely confirms it. I've never commented my friend but have watched most of your posts. Thankyou. Keep up the good work !!.

[@FrostedSeagull]

Trevor, Well said ! Porsche a n d Ferrari cars in Australia are ridiculously expensive. Excuse always is geographical distance from Europe. Now the add to that excuse, the Ukrainian War ? ? ? I have uber wealthy friends. They now mainly purchase their Porsche & Ferraris from the UK and import them. They allege they save up to $AU150 - 180,000 ( $US100 - 150,000).

[@johnfazackerley6951]

The 2 s is still great in tiptronic form,provided that the sports chrono pack is present.It really makes a great difference...

[@ism671]

Apparently so,even those without it can have the software retrofitted/uploaded it seems available in the US but not sure about here (GB). .

[@brandonchism6960]

I haven’t watched yet, but this is where I started. I still see it as one of the best versions without paying for a GT model. Edit: I did suffer an IMS bearing failure on my 3.8, but it was covered by an aftermarket warranty. Only paid the deductible on a $23k engine replacement and labor job.

[@milchomarkov8158]

How did that happen? Warranty on an IMS?

[@brandonchism6960]

@@milchomarkov8158 great question. I bought my 2007 C2S in 2015 from a Porsche dealer. I asked for warranty options. Since the car was too old for Porsche certification, the dealership offered a third party warranty with varying levels of protection and lengths. I chose one with something like 4 years and 60k miles at over $4k plus the cost of the car. I considered it expensive, but I wasn’t going to buy a used 997.1 without a safety net. Less than 20k miles later, my engine grenaded. I made a claim, they launched an investigation, and ultimately paid for the replacement engine and labor. My mechanic changed my clutch as well for cost since he was already pulling the entire engine and trans.

[@milchomarkov8158]

@@brandonchism6960 lucky as hell! daily driving a 2000 986 S w 90k miles out here, still thinking of the ims from time to time.

[@brandonchism6960]

@@milchomarkov8158 that engine could have the mod done without doing a complete teardown. I’m not sure if you have a Porsche mechanic, but check with one to get some pricing options. There’s a few vids on KZbin from people who had the mod done and are driving their cars worry free.

[@stanl1979]

Great review as ever James. Can only echo the sentiments in the video. Love my 997.1!

[@tomphillips6867]

I have just bought one.... love It, its already had the donk rebuilt by Hartech and its good to start fettling with.

[@AndrewDobie]

Hey James - I've just purchased my first 911, a 997.1 C2S, which I purchased through Charles and Dean. So big thanks to you for your great 997 reviews (which helped decide between this and an Evora S) and your endorsement of Charles and Dean!

[@nonamenameless5495]

My dad still has his first Porsche, a 964. According to our Porsche Center, there s very few 1 owner cars of this gen out there...and I somehow wish he hadn t sold his 993 to a friend who still has it btw. I still have my first new car (A3, 2nd gen) and I love it, it s closer to my heart than my Cayman tbh and it s close to mint condition like my dad s good old 964 but unlike his, my investment to keep it that way didn t really make economical sense lol.

[@garoglasser]

Hi James I have had a few air cooled 911 and a 996 C4S but my 997S.1 is far better and I have owned it for seven years and still enjoy driving it every time. In my opinion they are very cheap for what they are they and be used every day. They as docile as a VW Golf at low revs but drop a cog and stamp the loud pedal and it shifts with a perfect power to weight ration and as a normally aspirated car the linear power is so precise. They are not to expensive therefore a good buy because even if the car market fell they would only drop a little but either way in time they will definitely increase once they are appreciated for the car that they are. Thanks Tom

[@toddkvamme]

I have 85K miles on my 2007. About 2000 of those miles are track miles. The car is a rock. Oh...and this car is even more brilliant with Bilstein PSS10's installed (or "fitted" as y'all like to say 🙂 )

[@kiwihame]

Nice. You can check for bore-scoring with an oil analysis kit.

[@frohnnielsen]

I have the identical car to this (except the steering wheel is on the other side). I too have owned it for 10 years. I sometimes think of trading it in for something else, but then I go for a drive! Best thing I ever did was to install the OEM sports exhaust. Transforms the driving experience despite not adding an iota of power.

[@evansanchez4767]

i would only look at a porsche with a black interior. (had 3 with black). but the blue on blue on this is lovely

[@Stormy177]

You've reviewed so many cars that you could probably do comparison videos for various makes and models (maybe splicing bits of previous videos together). For example: Which Aston Martin to buy? The differences between the 997 models you've reviewed 996 Vs 997 - spec for spec comparison (e.g. 996 C4S vs 997 C4S) Grand Tourers - Aston vs Jag vs Porsche (vs. Ferrari)

[@moootaable]

Love mine ❤ its a 2 s with 110 000 it’s been upgraded with a wide body 4s conversion by me and a 991 exhaust third radiator lowered etc it’s a work in progress and just keeps getting better

[@prestigecarenthusiast4413]

Same colour as my c2s. I got my bore scoring checked for £170 plus vat. No issues. Love my car and drives superbly. Excellent video...!

[@davocc2405]

We need to crowd-fund a trip for James to fly to Australia to review some cars - perhaps starting with a Porsche 718 Spyder? I can tell you first hand - the spiders can be bigger than your hand actually, Huntsmans loooooove car reviewers. They love reviewers so much they want to hug your face!

[@LCculater]

Jay love your reviews ! I think you are the best of them all .

[@ajcball]

I had 997.1 c2s 2005 for 3 years. Costs about 2k a year to run. Handily gone up by same amount! I love it, though its black which is my least favourite colour on these. Scoring does worry me so I get annual oil change. Just had new clutch, drives much better 😎

[@toothybj]

Looking to buy my first Porsche with a budget of maybe $80k top end…i was trying to decide on a 991 vs 997 and whether i’d want a Gen 1 or 2 for each as well. It’s exciting but a little overwhelming TBH. Thanks for your helpful video!

[@Inazuma68]

Do it like I did. I bought a 996.2 GT3 two years ago. I love every second driving it 😍

[@dansgarage4572]

997 seems perfect on paper for me, a working professional with a growing family.

[@samdavinchi1624]

I don't know if I'm a record holder, but I bought my Golf TDI 15 years ago (2007) and I'm still driving it.👌🍀

[@timprice5]

Same with my '07 B6 Passat! Now also own an '06 Boxster S 3.2 - they are an excellent pairing. One is practical and a mile mucher, one is a well balanced sports car. Perfect budget 2 car garage

[@MWS1960]

So I’ve owned 104 cars in 42 years, but then bought a 991.1 in 2020 and I absolutely love this car. Racing Yellow. 9990 miles on the car.

[@radworldgarage]

just got mine a month ago! been a blast so far; gonna start building it soon, im very excited.

[@drajm259]

Was my first 911, loved it the 2 years I had it , then engine blown. Restored with hardtech, never was the same. Issue after issue. Had to let it go. But loved the Porsche brand still.

[@VS-qd5qw]

What problems after the rebuild? I have never heard a bad word said about a Hartech rebuild.

[@drajm259]

Still kept losing oil quickly, the transmission issues. Engine light would come on even after build. Problem after problem. Money pits even after hartech build. But I still loved that car. I saw it leave my home on a trailer a total 4 times. Became embarrassing.

[@iain3915]

@@drajm259 Very interesting to hear some alternative views on Hartech rebuild.

[@sonicsabbath]

@@drajm259 I had a lot of problems with my first porsche (early 996), and was also on a trailer 4 or 5 times. Didn't have an engine blow, but just problems and problems. Now have a 987.2 Cayman S and no problems so far though!

[@brunoantony9257]

Had an '07 C2s which I miss dearly. Bought it used with only 1k miles, like new. Good memories:). Wish I had it back.

[@sgp5047]

I could not agree more (apart from one point (later)- I have had mine for now 12 years, and had the Hartech 4.1 conversion, tuned for torque ( who needs HP? ), and then had the car set up with Ohlins R& suspension by Nine Excellence, and went to Michelin tyres. It has transformed the car from a good car to an almost special car, incredibly rewarding. Even better, it looks stock, so it blends into London traffic. The one point? PASM - I never understood the point of PASM - one single setup that is ‘sorted’ beats two so-and-so ones. Anyone remember how good old Alpinas were, before adaptive damping?

[@JeffA_]

still in 😍 with my 08 C2S three years on. A great blend of old and new 911. A reasonably priced 911 for a 1st...at least it used to be.

[@Harley-ir4er]

Thanks for the video - I have the Convertible Sport Chrono version - Love that Porsche returned them to the round headlights.

[@stashtrey1]

Just bought my first Porsche a week ago. 2006 C2S manual. Carmine Red Metallic, dark gray interior. After being a BMW fanatic, I got rid of my 2000 M5 (very sad day) and now the 911 takes its place. I still have my '97 alpine white M3 coupe....so its a fun pair in the garage! So far so good. I will admit that im terrified of bore score. Praying i dont run into that. Its got 43k miles, only 2 owners. Very clean and dealer maintained. Fingers crossed!

[@russm535il]

Purchased a base 2006 997 coupe in 2009 with 7k miles 6 speed Stick sports seats Porsche sport exhaust from a Porsche dealer. Now has 60k and looking forward to it becoming a 20 year old classic. A great car my daily !

[@ScottSanderz19]

I love mine and may never get rid of it! Got lucky finding a one owner ‘08 C4S w 25k miles. Added a 1 in drop w Eibach’s and plan to do cats,headers, and ecu to get me 400 HP at the crank. Perfect little normally aspirated ripper

[@usynnstradler]

This was and is my first porsche 911 that I got in 2020. Still got it. Love it

[@derin111]

If you want to get into the “criminally underrated or overrated ” debate and drag the E46 M3 into it, then the BMW Z4M needs to enter the room. In the UK at least, one of these is around HALF the price of a 997 Carrera 2S ! I may be biased because I own one…..but I know what Jay means about the E46 M3 because I too have owned those in the past….and even an E46 CSL which IMHO is a great car but in the ‘real world’, a very high premium to pay for a “very nice noise”! For me the Z4M is a ridiculous sportscar bargain (! ) such that I own it….and an Alpina Roadster S. 😅

[@jerdonsbabbler3515]

Had it. Loved it. 997 C2S cab was beyond fun.

[@ARentz07]

Funny how you started the video with that part about keeping a 997.1 for 10 years - my uncle's had his 997.1 Carrera 2 for well over 10 years now. He's not been compelled to trade up into a new one yet!

[@TheDentist27]

I put an apple car play touch screen in the radio, other OEM replacements: headlights, suspension, tires, steering wheel, e-brake, and sun visors, just to make the car feel fresh. Pretty well ticks all my car boxes.

[@ThatRosco458]

Would love to see a review of the Targa. I really like the huge roof and opening rear hatch, but wonder if there's any noticeable difference driving