Heretic - Movie Review

[@JeremyJahns]

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[@JesusBodyPillow]

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[@BrandonTailer]

I'm fucking sick and tired of your dumbass facepalms. Since m3gan review and dune part 2 review. Fucking quit it already with your dumbass facepalms!

[@BrandonTailer]

I'm fucking sick and fucking tired of your fucking facepalms! Why don't you go fuck off!

[@pmbbmp]

Debate religion??? God, how boring. Who would waste their time with that mindless banter when they can be listening to you speak about something important and interesting

[@commandZee]

Could be worse... They could've knocked on Diddy's door.

[@vitalityfox]

Thank god he’s in jail

[@megamangman]

That's a door I'd love to knock on 😈😈😈

[@hanktherapper]

That’s the sequel

[@nluxcoop8925]

He wouldn’t want girls😂😂

[@flagrantlyvivid7195]

@commandZee Or Jlo, LeBron, Jimmy Kimmel, Snoop Dog, or any other celebrity that endorsed Kamala.

[@Kango234]

There is something funny about the thought that missionaries come to his house enough that he just built a trap for them.

[@FBFJDKOEUEURJFJDJ]

To be fair, in the film he had actually contacted the church himself under the pretense that he wanted to learn more about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

[@StormX6]

Dude is literally Jigsaw but for missionaries lol

[@JustinLesamiz]

@@StormX6You should learn what "literally" means before you use it. This is not a film in the Saw franchise and he is not playing the same character, so he can't "literally" be jigsaw.

[@eenzturano]

​@@JustinLesamizrelax my man

[@DS-ys2xp]

@@JustinLesamiz what is your point. It's not that hard to understand his comment. Nobody thinks this a saw franchise film.

[@georgieboy7]

"Good time, no alcohol required" perfect for a movie with LDS (mormons) in it 😆😂

[@davyhatch3479]

This comment is prime

[@stardroplet9499]

😂

[@LoveStallion]

Latter-day Saints here. This movie has certainly been sending ripples through the community. Every missionary (and parent's) worst nightmare. I dealt with plenty of interesting characters on my mission.

[@jonathansoko1085]

You mean Mormon. That's what you are.

[@Wade_Fucking_Wilson]

Cult

[@Bluenosedwill1]

like side quests I imagine, or a DLC?

[@jd3jefferson556]

Honest question: is the Mormon position that the Church Jesus established apostated almost immediately after Christ's Ascension due to beliefs in the Eucharist and stuff like that and so Joseph Smith was sent to restart the church?

[@IJN-33]

​@@jd3jefferson556I mean, I wouldn't cite those specific elements as the most important elements of the apostasy, but that's the basic idea.

[@800Ms-k6n]

I think this movie seems very personal for Sophie Thatcher who played Sister Barnes as her family are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Seems like her performance has so much weight behind it because she believes in the words that she and the other characters were saying

[@PlethoraYT]

I’m pretty sure both of the female actors were a part of the church at some point

[@noobbotgaming2173]

She's an EX-member of LDS. She isn't a member anymore. She wouldn't be allowed to act in Hollywood if she was a member. LDS believes everything is evil.

[@seawanderer8532]

They left the church

[@2_572]

​@@seawanderer8532*at some point*

[@RestrictedFilms]

@@800Ms-k6n Well, Mormons are wrong, so …

[@amateur_artist6057]

As a woman who once served an lds mission, I would say there is obviously some risk involved though sisters are usually placed in nicer areas and missionaries have many rules for their own safety. However, there are times where sisters are moved out of areas or sent to different missions due to stalkers or men who were a little too interested. My grandmothers advice before i left to serve my mission was "don't be too pretty." Good review! Always enjoy your videos

[@IJN-33]

@@amateur_artist6057 As an elder my grandma never told me that. I'm a little offended now, lol. I'm glad the safety of all our missionaries is a high priority.

[@amateur_artist6057]

@IJN-33 😆

[@nerychristian]

Why didn't they pair the women with a man?

[@chrisblanc663]

I never thought much about the safety aspect on my mission. I mean, I’m male, but even so, I was fairly reckless as I look back on it, and hope my kids will practice just a bit more common sense then I did if they choose to serve missions.

[@amateur_artist6057]

@@nerychristian on a mission you are placed in a companionship and are expected to remain together at all times (apart from using the bathroom or other things that require privacy). You also live with this companion. Romantic entanglement is prohibited for the duration of the mission, so pairing sisters with male missionaries could have unexpected consequences.

[@terrellwhited8003]

The biggest surprise of this review? Jeremy's knowledge of mormon customs and culture

[@seawanderer8532]

Yeah I did a double take when he said 'molly Mormon'

[@Ryan-ud6vn]

Ikr 😂 the fetch stuff got me

[@JustinZarian]

Heck, the dude watched the terrible “Book of Mormon Vol. 1” movie. He’s surprisingly open-minded

[@Mightyjordy]

​@@seawanderer8532Same! I didn't know anyone outside the church even knew that one? Maybe we'll hear Peter Priesthood next?

[@yeetsquad9380]

He lived in Utah for a little while no?

[@austinknighton5319]

I served a mission myself, had a gun pulled on me a few different times😂 usually sisters are put in MUCH SAFER areas and almost always with a car for safety, but I got some calls on my mission about some SITUATIONS😂

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Well the guy has a normal house and a normal look

[@Im_that_guy_man]

Better to stop I’d reckon 😮

[@graham5990]

I am a Christian and had a few of you guys invite elders to my house when I had questions they couldn't answer, and so the elders came over and got very upset that I kept giving them the bible and showing the very big problems with Mormonism and now they stopped coming to my house.

[@austinknighton5319]

@@graham5990 and then everybody clapped

[@graham5990]

@@austinknighton5319 Nope they got mad and were yelling actually 😉

[@jonbaxter2254]

What a great little surprise this film was. I was glad it didn't go the direction I was thinking, yet it remained truly chilling.

[@jacobsawyer1383]

What direction were you thinking?

[@EyedMite]

Jeremy jahn lds member here! Yeah sister missionaries usually go to the calm safe areas. But that doesn’t stop them from coming across disturbing people still. Also it’s a rule that missionaries can’t go into a room with some one of the opposite gender with out a member from a local area .

[@CyberLance26]

Am i the only one that has noticed that usually if you say that men and women are different nowadays people will call you an idiot and say that men and women are the same and that gender is just a social construct but at the same time people do many things and say many things differently depending on if its a guy or a girl? Feels like people deep down knows that all of that stuff is just BS but they dont want to admit it.

[@deathrattle5869]

@@CyberLance26 You're 'The Guy'.

[@thatsphreshish]

​@@CyberLance26politicising the comment section of a Jeremy Jahns review is a wild strat.

[@gvgfvgg3257]

@@thatsphreshishfight against wokieness

[@bbhjvvbfhvv3357]

@@CyberLance26🤓

[@christianromero6604]

"Jeremy Stop trying to make FETCH happen, its not going to happen" 😉😅.

[@ddegn]

I know. It's FLIP for FLIP's sake!

[@jennifere.pergola598]

I was thinking the same thing while watching the video and knew someone would have this in the comments 😆.

[@hamzamaken9323]

but its like slang from England

[@christianromero6604]

@@hamzamaken9323 yea...but u know it's a line from "mean girls" right?....

[@hamzamaken9323]

@@christianromero6604 Yes, the slang from england line is what the other girl says to regina when regina asks her what the hell fetch is. I suppose you havent rewatched mean girls in a while.

[@nomadthenative]

Heretic was like a saw movie with a God complex…and less gore. 7/10

[@DaScorpionSting]

Same music for the trailer was used for Saw X trailer

[@CE-jl1lv]

I didn’t really get a saw vibe

[@jaysony8587]

You’re the 2nd person to bring up Saw and it is the stupidest comparison. This movie has nothing to do w Saw

[@MK-hp8zr]

Very hubristic God complex.

[@nomadthenative]

@ victims tortured with apparently lose-lose decisions by way of interestingly engineered circumstances and facilities designed by an old white dude with something (personal/ideological) to prove. Sure, the literal circumstances are different but my comparison stands

[@Aniboiii5600]

I’m so excited for this movie, especially as someone who served an LDS mission.

[@demetriusprice5890]

Diddo

[@GeoffByrdMusic]

I ask you the question that the movie asked: Do you still believe?

[@kingywantwingy6407]

Sorry

[@donniedarko8023]

LSD Mission?

[@LuisSierra42]

@@GeoffByrdMusic I believe in Harvey Dent

[@DrYes220]

I thought it built up the tensions in the first half very well, but the climax left a lot to be desired. It was a sophisticated build up for an rushed conclusion.

[@Orosian5]

That's what she said.

[@trash_daddy]

COMPLETELY agree

[@whutch1]

I never got that impression as him being the facebook guy. My interpretation was more, here’s a guy who has been studying and searching for the right religion for him all his life, finds his one true god, and this is how he engages in communion with that god. Thought it was a great premise for a villain and Hugh Grant killed it!

[@JoeyBoBoey]

Yea Jeremy was a bit off the mark here, seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about this film for whatever reason, writing it off a bit.

[@CE-jl1lv]

I think you have to be open minded and into philosophy and religion type topics and actually have brain cells to like it. It requires deep thinking and unfortunately most people simply just don’t have that.

[@ironphill911]

At the end of the day, his one true god was himself. Very Luciferian of him, which I suppose pulls God back into the equation.

[@orozcodavid101]

Yeah the Facebook analogy seems weird, this dude isn’t chronically online, he’s a serial killer lol

[@LETSRUNUNLV]

When i was a missionary in argetina for a the LDS church, got invited into a home by a dude who tried to lock us in there and give us drugs and tell us we were wrong. Honestly, scary. I loved my mission, but got put in some scary situations. I’ve been watching Jeremey for like what, a decade? Dude seems to clearly have someone he knows that’s Mormon cause he seems like he genially knows about us and what we believe hahaha. Great stuff Jeremy!

[@emhu2594]

Seems like a religion that doesn't care about your safety. Like pretty much all the other ones. 🗑️

[@IWF97]

I saw the trailer for this along with Robert Eggers Nosferatu when I went to see Terrifier 3 with mum My first thought was “Hugh Grant in a horror movie, I’m already intrigued”

[@santos8468]

And as the bad guy, too.

[@Caspeaon]

Watching Terrifier 3 with your mother is crazy work lmao

[@IWF97]

@ she’s actually the one who got me into horror movies

[@santos8468]

@@IWF97 she's sounds like a good mom.

[@Caspeaon]

@@IWF97 that’s cool my man. My mother would disown me for just mentioning terrifier in front of her lmao, and I’m only half joking. You’re a lucky man.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

It's pretty good, Hugh was awesome. It's like a solid 7/10. I just wish it had a little more scary stuff. It's like a mystery puzzle movie vs scary movie. Worth seeing but probably not worth buying on 4k

[@patb.814]

Yeah, I knew it wasn't going to be like saw but thought there would be more gore. Like I was hoping with the "high five" part that they had to go through some horrible gore and maybe were injured. and he would be like "congrats, you didn't loose your whole leg"

[@_m4r1ss4_9]

I disagree. I wish they focused on more of a psychological element. I thought the beginning leading up to getting trapped in the basement was fantastic, and I loved the very end, how it left the question of God's existence up in the air. The middle, horror segment I thought was kinda stupid. I would give it a four out of ten.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

@_m4r1ss4_9 I mean, you have a religious symbol as your KZbin icon... you're not the average consumer

[@_m4r1ss4_9]

@maximusjoseppi5904 I get that lol, I'm just sharing my perspective. I didn't mind the jabs at the church or whatever, that was obviously going to be part of the movie. I just thought the gore and middle segment got a little crazy lol.

[@GuyverII]

"You know, that one guy that lost his mind on Facebook." Woof, had two friends just do that in the past 3 days. Completely unhinged and had to mute them.

[@Kennypowers51]

Why? What happened in the last few days that would make anyone go nuts?

[@CLove511]

Only two? Nature is healing

[@EV87_]

Why? I have plenty of MAGA Trump thumping idiots that I’m friends with… I always enjoy idiots babbling on my feed. It further affirms that I’m on the right side of history and not blindly following some senile old creep.

[@D_veraz]

You still have friends in Facebook?

[@CMDrunk-d5m]

@@EV87_ You have friends?!

[@JustinZarian]

I served in England from 09-11 and we had some crazy situations. One sister missionary had a convert she taught not only stalk her, but cyber stalked members of her family on Facebook. The Church brought in lawyers to place a restraining order on the man and threatening further action if he even attempted to talk to her again, but it was still a traumatic experience that the guy was creeping on her for so long. She thankfully didn’t let it get her down in the long run though, which was inspiring. We also had areas that were explicitly no go’s for sister missionaries due to safety concerns. Made me sad that people would think of harassing them, especially once I became a district leader and had to keep an eye on some Sisters along with the other Elders (Elders can get threatened too, but not in the same ways). Still active after all these years and even wrote a study about Non LDS depictions of LDS characters for my master thesis. Curious how this one fares

[@ashleybrooke2087]

I don't think this film is specifically directed at the LDS faith so much as questions about religion in general & even though there have been a few articles denouncing the depiction of violence against women or against people of faith, it is worth noting that Hugh Grant's character isn't shown to be someone with whom we necessarily should agree. Also, the penultimate point is a bit dulled when we consider that all human power structures are about controlling others and that's not always necessarily a bad thing. It's abuse of that control or abuse of that authority that we should worry about. We have laws enforced by authorities because people do stupid things & we've all kind of agreed that someone has to be in charge of either preventing that or punishing them when they do. So that idea of belief being used to control people isn't as profound as people think.

[@JustinZarian]

@ totally fair. There’s just a usual…pattern in how LDS characters are portrayed. In a majority of films, LDS characters tend to be naive, lacking skills, and fail any objective in their story. Oh and die. They tend to die a lot. So I’m curious how they’re characterized here

[@heathen4236]

Unless you were in the military or a waiter you didn't serve shit, you just shilled for an obscenely rich organization that doesn't pay taxes.

[@skepticalbadger]

Here's a thought. Maybe don't go around bothering people with your mumbo-jumbo and this won't happen?

[@benzaiten933]

dude, threatening people is completely wrong, of course, but trying to force people to join your religion for their money and your self satisfaction is also wrong. if you want to practice this religion then knock yourself out, but perhaps not try to pull other people in? missionary work is just wrong and not necessary since everyone who'd like to join any religion has plenty of ways of doing so - even picking up a religious book should do the trick.

[@LiamP589]

Hey Jeremy, Mormon fan of yours here. Nice review of this video. I feel like you must have Mormon friends or something like that knowing all of those terms like 'Fetch' and 'Molly Mormon'

[@jonbaxter2254]

I quite like how the film didn't punch down Mormons.

[@douglestarge5865]

I bet he went to a few mutual nights. Maybe a few deacon’s or teacher’s quorums.

[@chyhodgson7726]

Totally had that thought too

[@Mightyjordy]

​ @jonbaxter2254 yeah that's what I've been wanting to know. Like, I'm totally fine with the movie asking difficult questions and having an honest conversation about challenging things, I just don't want two hours of missionaries being told all the reasons theyre wrong. Had enough of that on my mission 😅

[@BullyMaguire4ever]

@@jonbaxter2254 for me, I didn’t like how it made cult members sympathetic while making the villain paint atheists as serial killers, and tried to debunk valid criticism of religion.

[@brgardner897]

I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Like many of my fellow members, I can assure you that it is completely against the rules for our sister missionaries to be alone with a man. It's also against the rules for the male missionaries to be alone with a woman.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

Having been in a sorority on a campus where there were LDS missionaries around, I can honestly say that some of my sisters were good examples of why they have those rules.

[@Bigbluedome]

Doesn’t he lie to them and tell them his wife is home? Also this wasn’t always a rule. Became one in like 2010 I believe? Super dangerous missions are.

[@brgardner897]

@@Bigbluedome I've not seen it, so I don't know if he lied, but I served 2005-2006 and it was absolutely a rule then. I had a fantastic experience, really one that was foundational for the rest of my life. It is more dangerous working in a grocery store than it is to serve a mission.

[@Mightyjordy]

​@@Bigbluedomefrom the trailer I think you're right. Real sister missionaries I think are cautious about this stuff, but I think they get excited too when they're talking to Hugh Grant and thinking they might find someone willing to let them in and hear their message. So I found it relatively believable, though every sister missionary I've known is very adamant about those rules (you never know when a charming guy is going to lock you in his dungeon and want to challenge your faith)

[@Bigbluedome]

@@brgardner897 interesting. I served in Germany with a German mission president in 2012 and it was not even really a thing for us until a year in. That being you can’t go into a home if it’s just a woman for elders and just a man for sisters. To your other point I might press you on that. Even just my anecdotal mission experience in a first world country tells me no way. Let alone other parts of the world. Personally had an unstable trainer try to smother me with a pillow in my sleep. Wild shit. The amount of risk missionaries take on is absolutely insane and they die every year to say nothing of the ones who live with psychological trauma.

[@VFRZen]

If you recall, in the film it is revealed that he signed up for a Mormon religion house call. I thought this flick was pretty terrific. The dialogue was sharp and High Grant’s perf was Oscar-worthy. It loses steam in the 3rd act but it still sticks the landing.

[@RestrictedFilms]

The final shot ruins the movie completely. The butterfly was never there, hence, Mr. Reid is "right".

[@Red-zh7vq]

@@RestrictedFilmswell the shot cuts to her and then cuts back to her hand, so it could have flown away. I think it signifies more than anything that she is probably about to die. It’s left up to the viewer if you believe the divine was involved or not. I believe it was.

[@viddysgamingviddyos4710]

Seeing an advance screening of this two nights ago was...interesting. It was more talky than the original trailer made it out to be, but considering the themes the trailer alludes to [missionaries being invited to discuss religion, having to choose from the two doors of belief/disbelief, etc], I should have known. Hugh Grant did tell a few jokes, which got a few laughs in the audience, but it actually made me feel uneasy as I couldn't tell what he was going to do or say next. Overall, while this film was somewhat scary, it was more thought provoking - even bringing up other discussion topics that are not necessarily about religion. Plus, the last few minutes of the ending [not just the last beautiful shot] are debatable in what happened on-screen.

[@zanethurman6330]

Another latter day saint here. Yes, missions can be incredibly dangerous for sister missionaries. As far as I know, sisters are mostly kept to areas that aren't as dangerous (hopefully) but they can never truly predict what will happen. I served in Japan and met a couple of sisters who had almost been kidnapped, so yeah, they definitely have much more risk than elders, I would say.

[@Wildcat_Media]

As I actually WAS a sister missionary once upon a time, and I did get sent into some pretty sketchy areas - I look back at some of my time on my mission and think “Yeah, there was definitely Somebody looking out for us.” ‘Cause I wouldn’t go back to those places now. 😬 Hell, my companion and I had a guy try to sell us drugs once. We told him he needed Jesus. Which, you know, that was our job! But at the time, I didn’t think anything of it. Even though some other church members talked to us later and were all “Sisters, you really shouldn’t go down that street.” Maybe that’s why my God sends out the young idiots to be missionaries. An underdeveloped sense of self-preservation. (I’m only partially joking.) Anyway, thank you for the review. This premise hits a little too close to home for me, so I wasn’t super keen on seeing it (like I said, I was once a sister missionary). You’re pretty fair with your reviews of movies, so I’m glad you took the time to talk about this one.

[@jeremyfinch2835]

Trust me...the male missionaries encounter "this guy" multiple times a month. I remember knocking doors in a remote pueblo of Spain with my comp and this older dude seemed like he'd been waiting for us to show up for a decade. Was nice enough, dirt poor, but we mistook his intention to be interest in learning about God/Jesus and on the 2nd visit, he'd made us some strange fruit compote...my comp took a bite (and evidently only pretended to swallow) and gave me the "sign" that we needed to leave ASAP. So I spoke up as suddenly remembering we needed to be somewhere else and so we left quickly. Comp spit out what was in his mouth as soon as the guy closed the door behind us. "There were drugs or something smashed in that crap!" My comp was transferred a few weeks later and me, like and IDIOT (and bc we had no other leads) took my new comp to this guy's place. After 2 mins of chat, he put his hand on my legs and suggested something rather unmissionary to me. We left...not running, but quickly. The "sign" you ask? When a Spanish speaking missionary touches his ear, nose, then jaw (Ir Nos Ya!) it means "Let's get the FETCH outta here!"

[@jorgemendez9082]

Jump to 1:15 if you wanna skip the advertise at the beginning

[@Horopter]

NOOOO! I support Jeremy so I suffer!

[@SGTMasterBean]

@@Horopterunless you’re buying the products he advertises you’re not really helping him more than just watching the video lol

[@Spider-ManHQ]

​@@SGTMasterBean how u gonna know if u want what he's advertising if u don't see it

[@grim_2000]

Change your timestamp to 1:05. Otherwise you're skipping over a great line 😊

[@spencererickson3722]

Um , how the fetch does Jeremy know what a “Molly Mormon” is?

[@dinocollins720]

I was wondering the same fetchn thing haha 😂

[@matthewernst6178]

Since Paddington 2 I’ve wanted more bad guy Hugh

[@adamwoolston253]

Former missionary here, I'm glad you brought up the safety element, because for both men and women... serving a mission is surprisingly dangerous. More so than most people would think. I got shot at and suckerpunched, and some sisters in my district were robbed at knifepoint (thankfully, only robbed). That said, the Church does have all kinds of measures in place for this. They're issued iPads which the mission office can track anywhere it isn't an undue robbery risk, Sisters are generally sent to lower-crime areas of the mission, and they're actually not supposed to go into a man's house alone (so maybe the message is "follow the mission rules"). But even with all of that, all it takes is one wacko, as evidenced by the fact that missionaries are unfortunately crime victims quite often. Everything from stolen bikes to being kidnapped to being murdered. It happens.

[@ZitiPatrol]

thanks for sharing

[@benzaiten933]

then how about NOT sending people on missions? set up a home page for those who are interested in converting, they'll find their way! but I suppose any religious organization is that greedy for money and power so they won't mind sacrificing a few 'believers'. so they could save lives - not sending people on missions - but choose not to, how 'great' religion is!

[@dinocollins720]

I was in Argentina super sketchy ghetto area haha great times lol

[@goodlucktom]

Hugh did such a good job. He dropped some knowledge in it, and it was definitely a different take on the genre. I loved it.

[@johnw5442]

“What does he do in his free time?” Me (having seen the film): Clearly not baking

[@gman-29]

I served an LDS mission back in the day. Oh yes, this movie is a perfect representation ◔_◔. This was like every other day occurrence. Eventually you get to be like, "oh great, you are one of those... Listen, can we just skip the blah-blah angry reddit-post monologue and get to your horror dungeon? I have more important things to do."

[@hayteren]

If you've dealt in religion at all, this feels like it was written be a reddit atheist who hasn't been outside

[@fireblizard8366]

I think that’s kinda the point. I mean that’s why they have the back and forth and ultimately………. You can come to your own conclusion.

[@FlexingToday]

Yeah, you say that, but you ignore the fact that his logic had holes that were clearly addressed, he’s the villain of the movie, an insane fanatic, and lost in the end. If anything, this movie feels like it puts atheists on the losing side of the debate. But it’s a movie and it’s not that deep…

[@dinocollins720]

I am a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints (aka Mormon). I served a mission as well in Argentina. I can tell you first hand I had many, many experiences where I thought I was going to be murdered by a crazy person as well haha.😂 Looking forward to watching this one great review thanks!

[@TheFlipside06]

Appreciate the no alcohol required plug, since the pun of members of the Church don't drink works out nice. As far as how it represents the Church and its missionaries I'd say about 25-30% representative and the rest is an axe to grind about religion.

[@glasletter3111]

I was curious about that being LDS myself. They usually fall on one extreme or the other, from being terribly off on one hand to the Singles Ward on the other 😂

[@ashleybrooke2087]

I think the LDS element is really just part of the setup with the film being more about belief & faith in general. It didn't seem to be specifically targeting the LDS church. It's just there's more public awareness about them due to popular media plus the distinct look & approach the missionaries have. Or maybe they felt Catholicism gets too much press already.

[@peterroberts4509]

Cut and paste sounds right. I read a manuscript three years ago that focused on religious debate. A lot of the discussion seems uncomfortably familiar here. But cut and paste of ideas i read there seems an appropriate comment.

[@Cukito4]

Video starts at 1:14. You´re welcome.

[@Grendel2403]

I recommend using SponsorBlock so you can automatically skip to the meat of the video instead of skipping through ads

[@dinocollins720]

"molly mormon" "fetch" I'm a member and I was shocked Jeremy knows his stuff!!! haha

[@Frosty_Cat614]

I was actually a bit disappointed in this film. I thought the first and second act were great but the third act ruined it for me. Making Mr. Reed (SPOILER WARNING) into just a crazy creep who wanted to control women was such a let down. I was hoping he was gonna be something like someone who wanted to test or challenge their faith just out of curiosity or something like that. Making him just an evil monster I thought was a huge mistake and lazy writing.

[@Grassdia]

Maybe that’s the point, he was trying to convince them that religion was a lie and purely about control which he uses as an excuse to do horrible shit just like every single religion out there.

[@masteryoung]

Is that not literally the film? He tests their faith to the limit and breaks them (figuratively speaking), those devout realise that their life is a lie and the religion they follow is just a form of control.

[@Grassdia]

@@masteryoung ikr I thought I was the only one who noticed

[@Frosty_Cat614]

@masteryoung well yeah but I meant to make him into just a monster instead of someone who saw themselves as like a teacher or something like that would have been better. Someone whose morals were a bit gray as in his methods to try to convince them that their beliefs were nonsense were not so good but to make his INTENTIONS seem like he was trying to do good by exposing false beliefs and what makes people buy into false beliefs.

[@Grassdia]

@@Frosty_Cat614 people tend to go mad once they learn the truth

[@igpx0]

Hoping you do a full penguin review after the finale this week, it's so great!!

[@Cybershroom]

People debating about religion? Damn, that by itself is horrifying, lol.

[@gvgfvgg3257]

Don’t be woke

[@gunsmithcat7542]

Here I was, thinking the 1994 video game made by ID Software was getting a movie adaptaion. My disappointment was immeasurable.

[@utisti4976]

Unrelated fact but related to the movie's topic: Sandy Petersen, one of the guys behind the original DOOM games, is in fact Mormon. He was asked about it and he said something along the lines of "What is more Christ-like than destroying demons?" :D

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

If this was a parody, the people falling into the trap would have been jehovah witnesses and insurance sellers, annoying each other to death

[@eulojiorodriguez1497]

Who is Geova?! 🤣

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

@eulojiorodriguez1497 weird people going door to door , annoying people with religion ,

[@MatiasPorragas-i7c]

Although I hate them as much as anyone,is Jehova, you f*cking mor*n.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

Jehovah... it's Jehovah

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

@changer_of_ways_999 oops my bad . Thanks

[@DJmicaiah]

I’m a member of the lds church as well, and what a lot of people don’t know is that the original Texas chainsaw massacre was based on two Mormon missionaries that visited someone in Texas, look it up

[@dinocollins720]

I'm a member too; i didn't know this! that's cool

[@GeoffByrdMusic]

Cinematography was great. Acting was very good. The idea was excellent and so was the buildup and the first half of the movie. It REALLY went downhill from there. I didn't hate it, or like it, it was just a really pretty journey to nowhere for me. It's kind of like a song that has a great verse but no chorus.

[@xaviersanchez3498]

Same. Felt like a missed opportunity to do something I’m more interesting.

[@petergonzalez1719]

I live in Salt Lake City. Sister missionaries aren't allowed in a man's house without Male companions or just meet at a church. They're everywhere here.

[@bl00dywelld0ne]

As a former Mormon, it's my honor bound duty to step in and correct an error in your video. The real Mormon F words are 'Frick' and 'Fuh.' 'Fuh' was Esespecially popular in the 90s. 😂

[@rosamariabest6069]

How about "Flip"?

[@PupGamer]

@@rosamariabest6069 yes, and sometimes freak, fudge, frig, "effing".... It was highly contextual.

[@glasletter3111]

Fetch is a more recent addition, yeah. Frick is still used a lot, you don't really hear fuh from anyone except the truly "edgy" wannabes though.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

I had LDS friends growing up & I remember watching the censored version of Snakes on a Plane where Sam Jackson mentions the "monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane" & I thought "this is the LDS edit".

[@Mightyjordy]

I've never in my life heard the word Fuh and I live in UT 😂

[@DippedInInk]

Saw it last night at I really enjoyed it. I was raised in a strictly religious background growing up and it really grabbed my attention the entire movie.

[@grfrjiglstan]

This movie seems like if God’s Not Dead had even an ounce of talent behind it.

[@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment]

THIS. And it's not like Kevin Sorbo isn't talented--he did the best he could with the super-messy script he was given. And like Hugh Grant here, he's a '90s heartthrob who can easily channel that energy to villainy....

[@rogersjgregory]

Hugh Grant is having fun with his role choices. He’s having a blast.

[@Perhapsawiseman]

3:50, funny story, missionaries mostly teach that exact demographic.

[@SeanA099]

I’ve recently been on a deep dive about Mormon history and theology. Pretty good timing for a movie to come out about it. I’ll probably see it this weekend.

[@glasletter3111]

As a member myself, I'd suggest speaking to one directly. Always best to hear about stuff like that from someone who believes it. I did a lot of study of other religions on my mission as well, but it never quite matched talking to someone who truly believed in those faiths.

[@secretworldcomics]

I personally loved the movie. I just wish that since they decided to actually use the name Mormon and not just call them generic missionaries like most movies would, they'd have delved into more controversy surrounding the LDS community. Because there is FAR more than just the polygamy issue that they discussed.

[@scottlarock7924]

Funny, too, having just watched a short where someone was interviewing Hugh Grant. They asked him if his parents appreciated his becoming an actor and he said flatly, no. He said, partly joking, his mother wanted him to be the archbishop of Canterbury. He joked, I'm still holding out a little hope. :-)

[@brianegendorf2023]

The first time I ever saw Sister Missionaries in person was about 3 months ago. I was trying to get people to register to vote at a mall, and was there a few times over a few days. And I saw them a few times and they talked with me for a moment. They were both really pretty too. They could totally melt my heart..if I had one..

[@roosterjackson7258]

Pretty sure they pick good looking ones on purpose.

[@aceuni-rider6921]

​@roosterjackson7258 Missionaries volunteer to serve church missions. The church doesn't pick out cute ones.

[@chrisjherman]

Very nice review, sir. I dug the film as well. Tense and cerebral conversations about religion and faith. Hugh Grant's performance is one of my favorites of the year so far.

[@ShilohBoca]

Being LDS , nobody says "fetch", unless your name is Gretchen.

[@glasletter3111]

Fetch had a recent resurgence. My older brother loved it haha

[@ultraviolettas]

dang fetch oh my heck

[@xavierstanton8146]

A24 seems to be having a decent repertoire of horror movies. Sure there's probably some bad ones that I didn't know were from them, but between this and last year's Talk to Me, there’s been remarkably well received ones.

[@tinyoctopus6317]

Stop trying to make Fetch happen, Jeremy. It's not going to happen. (Sorry, had to say it)

[@kumatoni5245]

Stopped using Facebook years ago for (kind of) that reason, and only see YT vids from people I'm subbed to. Not that I was blown away by HG's character's points or anything, but had a really fun time with this, and all three leads were excellent.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

Mr. Reed going on random rants about religion, board games, music, and Star Wars gave me American Psycho vibes.

[@mavfan1]

Ranting against and ridiculing all religions is always a good time!

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@mavfan1 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[@Jaycookthechef]

What I got out of the movie was the dude ultimately was trying to cope with his fear of death and the unknowns of when we die so he came up with his own belief but in the end it never truly subdued his fear of death

[@brownbear112]

Oh, I really like this take! I haven’t seen anyone else bring this thought up. Good job! 👍🏽

[@JoshuaGonzalez-sr7xy]

I saw this movie last night. I thought it had some interesting ideas, but the theological arguments/conversation sounded like someone who hasn't read any holy books. Hugh Grant was amazing and the two ladies were pretty good.

[@Grassdia]

Why read them if you don’t believe them. His whole argument is that religion is propaganda used to control people which only makes sense if you don’t believe the words.

[@cameron9292]

I think that's done intentionally, to leave holes in his argument. SPOLIERS: Through his study Reed only see's religion as a means of control, but Sister Paxton at the end of the film discusses the prayer expirement and concludes that although prayer doesn't do anything, it's nice to think of others. Religion teaches certain moral behaviors that allow us an individuals to transcend selfishness and work together as a society. Reed spends his life isolated from others in a house in the mountains so he doesn't understand that utility, he only see's it as a means of control.

[@PupGamer]

@@cameron9292 does Reed counter the "transcend selfishness" argument by pointing out how much raw earthly money the church has hoarded, and what they actually do with it? ...I guess I need to see the movie to find out.

[@cameron9292]

@@PupGamer Yes he does, he makes a money allegory about halfway through the film criticizing Christianity. But that isn't a counterargument to religion as a whole, you seem to be focused on a particular faith and how their power structure has consolidated an incredible amount of wealth and power, which even goes against the teachings of their own messiah. I think it would be unwise not to separate this power structure and the actual teachings within their books, let alone let the actions of one particular faith taint religion as a whole.

[@dianahndrsn]

@@PupGamernot all churches or religions are wealthy.

[@RestrictedFilms]

It's ridiculous atheist propaganda, but Grant was excellent in it.

[@PupGamer]

I didn't think I ever said fetch as a Mormon 90's dude from Utah. But then again, my family were a bunch of hardcore sinners who drank coca cola, said "pissed off", and owned a microwave. We had a dozen other F words, one of which would definitely get me banned from KZbin.

[@brennanpeterhunt]

I’m also a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and long time Jeremy watcher. Haven’t seen the movie and don’t plan on it since horror / thriller typically isn’t my thing. I am slightly worried about the repercussions of the film. And just so others know - sister missionaries aren’t permitted to enter a man’s home unless they are accompanied by a third female member of the church - and often these meetings take place in public areas or at the church with several other church members. So idk I guess I just feel like this movie is a missionary’s worst nightmare come to life.

[@oBlvd]

It is not horror

[@MrBananaSamich]

If youre like me you came here to see not just a review, but also an explanation for the ending. Heres mine. SPOILER WARNING! Originally when i saw the film in theaters i interpreted the ending as paxton escaping, with barnes actually resurrecting from the dead to save her and then visiting her again as the butterfly on her finger completely validating their faith with a miracle and her re incarnation theory thus proving mr reed to be wrong. However, after thinking about it for the last hour or two, i think ive realized that barnes did not come back to life and that all 3 characters died in that basement. Paxton envisioned barnes saving her, and as she slowly faded to death whilst praying she also found comfort in escaping and barnes visiting her as the butterfly. But more importantly it shows that despite mr reeds attempts she still died as a true believer and thus mr reed lost as he died scared of what awaited for him in the afterlife. I think this interpretation is more valid because it’s more realistic based off her injury, the butterfly on her hand vanishing, and also its snowing outside in her “escape” whilst it looked like it was summer or spring in the films beginning. I really liked the film, an actual original idea, all 3 actors were great, and it really kept me thinking about the end. Curious what others think about my theory who have seen it.

[@the910toparis6]

Yes when I thought she came back to life I was like tjats so stupid But then I realized and had goosebumps for like 10 minutes lol. The ending was great now that I see what happened

[@TimberTaipei]

I served a mission in Siberia 20 years ago. Some poor drunk lady got murdered/or severely injured (My russian was a little green) in our apartment building overnight after arguing with another drunk neighbor over a stolen phone. A Russian police office started slamming on our door the next morning. I had a new missionary with me at the time fresh off the plane. (Missionaries are always in twos) The officer accused us of partying all night, getting drunk and murdering the lady. I thought he was looking for a bribe, and didn't believe my ears when he accused me of murder and assumed he was lying. Ripped our metal door open, and pushed his way inside. Immediately saw a bunch of pictures of Jesus, open bibles, and copies of the Book of Mormon, and us wearing shirts and ties. My companion was scared to death as was I. He sat down and listened to us for an hour. Even got a lesson on chastity and why many of us wait for marriage. Mainly after asking us if we "experienced" the local Russian girls. Haha! I still think about that dude. All those people actually. That side of the world actually. ;(

[@yugihlh]

This guy looks just like Jeremy Jahns

[@odyssey-_-23]

who would have thunk it 🤷

[@MVD.]

wow it's like looking into a mirror

[@Hannibal_Grim]

I was happy with this film. Loved how it showed the commonalities of modern religions and how belief can be abused for ones own end.

[@Black_Blow_Fly]

I’m considering going to watch it today…

[@Doctorcockter]

Me too haha ! Here to see what others think of it

[@CaffeineHigh14]

Do it

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Its good

[@Black_Blow_Fly]

@ heck yeas 😁

[@BlazingOwnager]

I never thought Hugh Grant, a guy I never really cared much for, would reinvent himself as an awesome villain actor. And he really is great at it.

[@OddOneOut665]

REVIEW TERRIFIER 3, DAMMIT!!!!!

[@graffiti.777]

Idk if he even watched the first three films

[@TMX1138]

And Despicable Me 4

[@Jos-wt7yn]

I don’t think he watches/reviews Unrated movies . Also Terrifier may be too extreme for some, myself included (unfortunately)

[@foxx1111]

Why its shit

[@packedentertainment2866]

Why? You know he won’t like it

[@Foxblinde]

The weird character shift right at the end just so she could give a speech dump to make the point felt a bit lackluster to me, but everyone did a good job.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

'Fetch' & 'Judas Priest' are still very much a modern LDS thing or at least with the LDS kids I knew

[@calebviljoen]

The way you talk about things makes me think you grew up in or around the church. “Molly Mormon” and “fetch” and in your Soul video I’m pretty sure you referenced that it reminded you of Mormon beliefs. Just seems like you know a lot more than the average person. In any case, I’m a member of the church and keen to see this film. Love your videos

[@PupGamer]

It's a little unbelievable that two native English speaking missionaries were sent to an area where people spoke English.

[@WarlordRising]

Huh? It happens all the time in California.

[@ShinbrigTV]

That's a common thing for US missions??

[@CLove511]

US missionaries have about 50-60% chance of being called within North America. They even get called to Utah, and it's a massive mission.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

The application has a spot to say whether you're comfortable or not in learning a new language. I assume many say no. Every single ward/congregation has one pair of missionaries assigned. There's thousands in the US.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

We had LDS missionaries on campus all the time in Austin, Texas. I always felt sorry for them because a lot of people treated them like they were contagious, especially all the Catholics & Baptists.

[@mirramirraonthewall]

Now I kind of want a thriller movie where it’s this guy trying to argue how amazing Animaniacs is. Not a hard argument sure, but definitely changes when he makes a board game house around it.

[@samanthawoods8000]

Another layer to the symbolism: Mormon women don't have the same rights as men, which happens in many religions. For example, women can't be priests, and they have less authority in the church. In some of their churches, women can't even meet outside of the church to lead a spiritual activity without a man present. Also, women are often expected to follow "traditional" values, which means that the husband has more power -- instead them being equal partners. Now, of course, some women who are fine with these practices. However, there are also women who've left the church and describe it as a very difficult process. In more extreme situations, they also describe problems with domestic abuse. Basically, they felt trapped in a situation where they were controlled by men -- and like they had to escape.

[@BrandonWestfall]

The cinematography was amazing. If it wasn’t a horror/thriller film I’d fully expect it to be up for several Oscars.

[@brakstonmorgan8473]

I served an LDS mission. Missionaries are not supposed to enter a home of the opposite sex. So these sisters would have given him things to read. Invite him to church. And make an appointment to come back another day and they would bring a woman from the ward to give an extra witness. Or had the lesson on the front porch

[@grimdolo918]

Not as good of a movie.

[@ericellsworth9852]

Yes but then the plot wouldn’t happen. Also, they do ask if his wife is home and he says yes so they think they’re ok to go in. I saw it last night. It was a good time.

[@nelly2191]

I haven’t seen the movie but in the trailer he says his wife is in the house making pie. So I’m assuming that’s why they went inside because he told them there was a female in the house.

[@Nihilakh4life]

The fact is he tricked them into the house by saying his wife was in the other room making pie. WHen they go to check they find his wife is not real, the pie is just a scented candle and the door locks behind them.

[@lanharvids]

Doesn’t he say that his wife is home in the trailer?

[@earlleary]

I very much enjoyed this movie. In part , because its not your typical horror movie, wasnt sure what was gonna happen next with the context of this movie , so thats a good feeling.

[@jobiy1999]

I served a Mormon mission. Our sister missionaries are not allowed to enter a home if there is no woman seen present. The men are also not allowed to enter a home if there is no man present.

[@tmrevenge]

That doesn't make it safe

[@kfitz2711]

It’s a movie, not a documentary.

[@jobiy1999]

@@tmrevenge woulda worked here 🤷

[@jobiy1999]

@@kfitz2711 I'm not making a critique of the movie. This was more so a response to Jeremy wondering if it's safe for women to serve as missionaries.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

The guy lies to them and tells them his wife is at home

[@Mac6Squad]

Another great review. My go to person for reviews. Love the perspective on films. Thank you! Watching it on Tuesday.

[@VesaJay]

2:00 He was right, though. About being Jewish, if that's the base, why be anything else if you're taking from that.

[@brando3342]

@VesaJay Well, Mormons are a cult that doesn't resemble Judaism in any meaningful way. As far as "why be anything else"; there happens to be multiple "kinds" of Judaism, like modern Judaism is not the same as first century Judaism, so you'd have to be specific about which one you think people should follow. Furthermore, Jesus Christ was the Jew of all Jews, he was the perfect Jew, like literally his title was "the King of the Jews". So, Christianity is actually the MOST Jewish religion in this sense. Following the best Jew, who was Jesus, is Christianity. So, ironically, "the base" here is actually Christianity, even though it came, chronologically after Judaism had already been established.

[@mikejochim3595]

Solid film and I thought Hugh was amazing. My one gripe…if you’re going to set a movie in Boulder, CO (where I reside)…try and get some stock footage OF Boulder to use in your film to sell it. I will Grant (pun intended) that the filmmakers did lock in Boulder’s spastic weather. Clear in morning, rain and snow by evening.

[@ShinbrigTV]

This movie was free therapy. As an Ex-Mo that went on a mission you always have that one investigator that seems off. Had one that openly admitted he killed his own father with a machete. And we never went back since then.

[@Mightyjordy]

Sounds like a guy who really needed Jesus 😅

[@GGJ2002]

Why are random people Mormons visit called investigators?

[@scottjustin9800]

I just saw it. During the movie I mentally swapped the girls from LDS missionaries to Tik Tok influencers ranting about the election results and the puzzle fit perfectly. I thought he cinematography and acting were excellent. Not for everyone, but I liked it.

[@ProfessorSolenya]

I just wish he hadn’t stabbed either of them. It would’ve been better if he had been a terrifying villain just by using his words like in the first half of the movie.

[@RabbiSteve1]

Wow. This review got me to really want to catch this movie in the theater before it’s gone (it will be gone by next week, I’m sure). Thanks Jeremy.

[@ronkmieciak120]

Jeremy clearly religious

[@fireinthesky2333]

Good. Atheism sucks.

[@jamesmalone8882]

Just left this movie. Loved it. This review is right on the money. I've never seen any other Hugh Grant movie, I've always known him as that floppy, british rom-com guy (which is why I've never gone to any of his films), but that energy makes his character awesome. Like all great villains, he has a point. He's also a creepy mansplainer, and we all frown upon treating mormon missionaries like that.

[@ilovegodzilla]

Clicked so fast

[@erickghoul174]

Didn’t know that using “fetch” in place of the f word is a Mormon thing. Explains a lot

[@mikelnelson1038]

Long-standing active member of the church: *cracks knuckles* alright, let's send some unsolicited corrections about members and missionaries Sister missionaries: they serve for 18 months. It is not culturally expected they serve, but when they do they are like MVPs, as most guys/elders are not as effective. Affirmative, I lived through the 90s and 00s, elders said fetch a lot and it bugged me. Usually sisters are supposed to confirm the wife or family member is home prior to entering. All said, makes sense to use missionaries from our church in the least as they're the arguably most recognizable, but ultimately any religion would do in this movie. But sister missionaries being a plus. Mormon is the nickname applied by others to our church, and reluctantly accepted for decades. However, we are specifically Christians. The name of our church if The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mormon is the name of the prophet that compiled the records of hundreds of years of prophets in his time, and ultimately named the book The Book of Mormon. He specifically wrote that the whole purpose of the book was to invite others to come unto Christ. I understand that there will be plenty of readers here that will comment for or against our beliefs and religion, I'm not ashamed but likely will not respond as my notifications are off? Anyways, If you see this movie, hope you enjoy!

[@fireinthesky2333]

Mormonism is fake. Sorry dude. I was raised Mormon but exited long ago. I'm hoping to become Orthodox soon.

[@IJN-33]

​@@fireinthesky2333Why?

[@fireinthesky2333]

@@IJN-33 1) Teaching on nature of God. In Mormonism there is only a difference of degree not kind between man and God. 2) The Trinity. The only way to solve the dilemma of both Christ's divinity and monotheism. Mormonism just gives up monotheism. 3) The Great Apostasy. As a Mormon, I just accepted it at face value. I now see it just didn't happen. 4) Joseph Smith and polygamy. The whole thing was theologically unnecessary. I didn't want to accept it but I think Smith was just a bad dude who wanted to sleep around. 5) Book of Mormon. No evidence whatsoever that any of it occurred.

[@marcscott7382]

Shoutout to the Mormon homies. Utah is beautiful

[@dinocollins720]

thanks brotha!!!

[@nickkelley7031]

As a film about Mormon missionaries, I appreciate that no alcohol is required.