Heritage and Hate: Mississippi’s State Flag

Mississippi’s state flag is the last in the US containing the Confederate battle flag. VICE News and Kal Penn travel to the Magnolia State for a lesson on race relations, barbecue, and the meaning of southern heritage for black and white residents of Mississippi.
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[@ToFester]

How can it be about heritage? The confederacy lasted ONLY 4 years. That's like saying my emo stage in high school is my heritage.

[@positiveornegative2807]

Thats like saying your joke was original

[@Hacked1970]

Because that's what it meant/means to the South - heritage & wartime sacrifice. Most critics of it are not from there & have no way to understand that culturally.

[@ToFester]

@@Hacked1970 Culturally of what slavery that's not heritage.

[@Hacked1970]

@@ToFester are you from the South?

[@ToFester]

@@Hacked1970 Yes

[@albertchavez5243]

"African Americans fought for the confederates freely".........that is laughably incorrect.

[@davidhoward6795]

Straight up bro!

[@davidhoward6795]

They were obviously forced to fight in the war!

[@scottieledbetter3572]

@This is my LITE don’t block the SUN Your only half right, the north didnt want blacks to fight, they literally fought to fight. Because most of them wanted to "work" for their freedom

[@scottieledbetter3572]

@Kevin Wentz Sorry, but setting up tents, making food and gathering water is not fighting, that is doing what they did before. So with that being said you are the one who is wrong.

[@arnv4487]

@@scottieledbetter3572 54th Regiment?

[@yourtoastershandemover2211]

"The civil war was about states rights." Ah yes, the state right to have slaves. People that believe it's anything other than slavery have bought into the rewriting of history taught from the losing side.

[@privatedino3239]

That and to secede

[@francismarion6400]

If that were the only reason then why did they North build city plantations after the war? AKA Ghettos.

[@nquisitiv3471]

@@francismarion6400 source?

[@francismarion6400]

@@nquisitiv3471 What do you mean source? Its a fact that's where they largely live. Every major Democrat run city has a less desirable section of town that the blacks were pushed into and sold drugs too. Mixing was a crime that would go uninvestigated for instance if a black was murdered in the white section of town. To make it worse, government funded the low income housing to make sure it stayed that way. Then chicken in every pot LBJ created a welfare program to make sure those plantation slaves would stay unsuccessful for 100 years.

[@SStupendous]

@@francismarion6400 "city plantations" you're calling ghettoes... they already existed #1, and #2, can't you just call the living conditions of your typical urban worker that?

[@09rja]

I'm a southerner and I don't fly the flag because of what a black guy said in the video about how he automatically thinks that someone who does fly it has a problem with black people. I don't want anyone making that assumption about me.

[@andrewiannelli7635]

They didn’t rebuild the south together. Ever hear of Jim Crow laws and sharecropping?

[@thatoverallgeek1563]

Tammy T and Republicans continued it

[@johnindigo5477]

It did take about 2 decades for jim crow laws to be enacted

[@Osa_21]

Tammy T shut up idiot

[@jaimesolis8362]

@@Osa_21 lmao! Thanks!

[@dogbean5015]

Auck it yankee

[@timchan9454]

The only thing I learned from this is that when Kumar isn't looking for the nearest White Castle, he's working for Vice

[@Leafy0458]

Tim Chan 👍

[@daltonraynichols8584]

God damnit lmfao Tim that funny asf 😂😂😂

[@SupahFans]

i just knew I recognized him from somewheres

[@Tcboxing07]

Where tf is Harold?!

[@brandonn.410]

and he worked for Obama 😂😂

[@marshman4813]

I appreciate his understanding of the people. Many people do not want to see it as racist. The fact many people will argue on and on about how it isn’t shows they don’t want the flag nor themselves to be perceived as such.

[@yourbigheadcousin5434]

They don't want to be perceived as racist...while they wave a racist flag.

[@marshman4813]

@@yourbigheadcousin5434 you’ve missed the entire point. They don’t see it as such and wish others did not. They have a completely different perspective.

[@yourbigheadcousin5434]

@@marshman4813 I haven't missed the point. I understand what they want but they don't understand what it is. That flag is racist no matter how they view it.

[@marshman4813]

@@yourbigheadcousin5434 that’s exactly what I mean. You are approaching it from a completely different viewpoint. They would say the opposite. With the vast majority of historical interpretation, there is not concrete truth as to what something represents. It has different meanings and history with different groups. For example the kkks use of the flag is blatantly racist, while i would argue the blacks who do use it, while rarer, just as many people who use it nowadays are, are not.

[@marshman4813]

@@yourbigheadcousin5434 also for example many just use it as a symbol of the south, without any other context. I have thought that perhaps we could just get rid of the controversy with a new southern flag, only issue would be implementation and an actually good design. You just admit regardless of opinion it is quite well designed and iconic.

[@Frugal_fitchic]

My great great great great grandpa who came over from Germany was a farmer. He signed up to defend the union. He got injured in the Civil War, then went back home. when he found out that the Confederacy was going to march on the capital of Missouri he signed back up and went to defend the capital. I’m very proud of my ancestor.

[@newjerseyyouth4853]

Based grandpa

[@crickymoreland4164]

there's a film in that

[@Frugal_fitchic]

@@crickymoreland4164 That would be a cool reenactment film!

[@joeblowgoes]

My great great great German ancestors were in Texas, and they were here for a few years before they got the option to join the confederate army or die where they stand

[@Frugal_fitchic]

@@joeblowgoes You never know maybe our ancestors fought each other.

[@RumchugMusic]

I've owned pairs of underwear that lasted longer than the Confederacy.

[@TheBatugan77]

I've WORN pairs of underwear longer than the Confederacy lasted. 🗣️💩💥💨💨👄👄

[@woowowowow583]

You must have not worked a day in ur life if that’s the case

[@bobomullins590]

@Joe lol

[@bobomullins590]

@Danny Walker Don't make fun of homeless people :-)

[@Darthrocker06]

heh most of my old underware have Dale Earnhardt skit marks LOL

[@ASTRO_NAUTIKAL]

It's like a German saying; "But the Nazi flag is my culture" No. You lost.

[@IdiotBoxProductionsTV]

Astro Nautik no it’s actually not like that at all

[@kylebenjamin6082]

IdiotBoxProductionsTV yeah it is. The flag represents a hateful nation that no longer exists as it was.

[@dillonblair6491]

@@kylebenjamin6082 But the Confederates aren't like nazi's other than being racist

[@kylebenjamin6082]

@@dillonblair6491 its a lose comparison but it still stands. Why fly the flag of a defeated nation that was on the wrong side of history.

[@evilferret1453]

losing a fight dosent mean you was right . history is written by the winners . I could get into a fight with a 5 yr old . whip his ass real good . but does that make me right ? It is a complex issue . just brushing it off like this is ignorant .

[@geraldmitchell4833]

Every state submitted a "Declaration of Causes" In this document Mississppi clearly stated that their reason for leaving the union was slavery. Therefore the reason for the war was slavery.

[@bosshoggish1]

Thank you! Some people just don't like to read.

[@__klainnso4l]

Why do I laugh so hard at that blonde girl everytime she says “it’s my heritage “ 😂😂

[@SmarchitectMann]

It's funny how they always say, "you need a history lesson," and then never give the history.

[@stopmojim]

Because they don't know it. It's all Duke Boys and Lynyrd Skynyrd to them.

[@457rick]

Most soldier's on both sides fought for their homes and families, not slavery. Remember it was a war that also involved land or regions of the country. Washington DC wanted all the land. Look what they did to native Americans

[@la4508]

It was about the same thing as every other war: money

[@zs4964]

LᗩᑎDO LᗩᑎD he taxed the south after they attacked federal forts and seceded so no it’s not taxation Historians all agree that the inability for the south to spread slavery was the primary cause

[@ralphking425]

Alabama Chick and slaves where clearly very valuable given that free labor was a catalyst to great wealth

[@ironsurvival7011]

Imagine someone saying I’m German the swastika is my heritage

[@madeofclay9081]

Exactly bro there’s no difference 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bjethier5910]

swastika was a chinese symbol of piece and prosperity

[@dlam2864]

Not quite. the stars and bars has come to mean over more than a century the culture and heritage of the south while the swastika was ONLY used by the nazi's DURING ww2

[@SupahFans]

Bingo

[@DevyaniMulik]

@@bjethier5910 pan asian. It's in indian and Japanese culture as well

[@mxferro]

The confederacy constitution EXPLICITLY says slavery. The South ceceded due to slavery issue. Period. The flag was used in battle for that cause. It is "dripping" with rascism, intimidation and suppression.

[@MrThomas564]

PREACH!

[@icedthai]

Every state individually and explicitly stated that it was leaving the Union because of the issue of slavery. It's phenomenally easy to look up these documents and read them.

[@leowood5860]

i the words of Alexander Stephens, the Vice President of the confederacy, “our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.”

[@asamcdaniel5167]

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save thise Union.

[@leowood5860]

@@asamcdaniel5167 that is what lincoln said. The south fought for slavery. The north fought to preserve the union

[@traaaashmouse]

Here’s a quote from the CREATOR of the confederate flag. “As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race…” from the Savannah Morning News, April 23, 1863. If you google this paper and look at page 527, you can also see that the flag was nicknamed “The White Man’s Flag.” I understand that it is a symbol of American history. I understand that is representative of some peoples’ ancestors. However, it is not patriotic. It is not a symbol of America or unity - it literally symbolizes Americans fighting our own fellow Americans. Regardless of the *many* things the civil war was about, slavery IS one of those things. It IS part of the story. You can’t pick and choose what it does or does not symbolize. It encompasses ALL of its history, INCLUDING racism, no matter how you twist the story. If you’d like to show your patriotism, why not fly the American flag? If you’d like to honor your ancestors, why not honor any of the ones who DIDNT fight to oppress another group of people? Why not honor the ones who DIDNT participate in a war against their own country? By flying the confederate flag, you are choosing a side. You are choosing the LOOSING side. The MORALLY CORRUPT side. The one that was MEANT to lose. If I’m wrong, then why doesn’t ANYONE fly the flag from the Northern side of the civil war? It’s the same as the American flag, only it has 20 stars instead of 50. Nobody flies that flag because the North won, and that flag was adapted into the current national flag. Because that one represented true EQUALITY and UNTIY amongst Americans. To this day, the confederate flag only stands to divide the American people. It is sparking yet another divide in our citizens. Maybe they do not realize it, but the people who still flaunt the confederate flag are celebrating the racism that ruled our country since day one, even if they choose to mask it as patriotism. You are able to appreciate a corrupt history without glorifying it. They simply choose to glorify it, as that is easier than admitting our ancestors were wrong. The people who fought in that war knew what they were defending. The people who sided with the south knew it was dubbed the White Mans Flag. They lived when it was conceived, when all the racism was alive and prominent. They knew what it meant to defend slavery, even if that was not their main concern. There’s no reason to respect that part of our history. It is very important to remember and acknowledge it, but to glorify it? Inexcusable. Once something is responsible for the death of innocent lives, it is no longer harmless. It is a symbol of death and prejudice and hate.

[@yusufhanif3704]

Fantastic comment

[@paigerocks884]

Imagine spending all that time to write something that's wrong

[@paracetamol256]

Nice analysis

[@traaaashmouse]

@@paigerocks884 Honestly I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on it, if you care to elaborate.

[@nicolasmartinezsanchez6488]

Kumar looks like a brown Jimmy Kimmel

[@ashleighcalloway886]

NICOLAS MARTINEZ SANCHEZ this made me laugh harder than I should have

[@kevinarnold165]

Oh my god I've trying to put my finger on it you nailed it

[@AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo]

NICOLAS MARTINEZ SANCHEZ HELL YEEEEEESSSS!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@destroya3303]

Way less of a douche too!

[@alexpurvis2002]

He's literally Jimmy Kimmel in blackface

[@supameep64]

Wow that girl in the beginning must of been real close to her great great great great grandparents

[@diggitydave75438]

Why? Because she knows that her family didn't own slaves? Someone from the south can know that their family didn't own slaves. The southern side of my fam didn't own slaves cuz they were dirt poor.

[@mikael8092]

Are you braindead? Do you not understand what pride of heritage means?

[@5bagsofpopcorn]

@@diggitydave75438 Well if 32% is a tiny minority then okay

[@aundrybsk4330]

If the flag means slavery and with your idea then why should the blacks care about there great great great great grandparents.

[@scl1332]

Great great great great great great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great grandparents

[@moonmagic68]

And you believe "your heritage" really is something to be proud of?? Sometimes...."your heritage" is nothing to be proud of....it just isn't.

[@chelseafcrocks82]

"You ever been to Mississippi? Big hunk of racist dirt!" - Chris Rock

[@sawyergood3246]

Ok

[@eljono1]

Screw the meaning of the video, that food at the beginning look good af

[@infinightsky]

And the blonde.

[@Leelicious1312]

+infinightsky and your mom

[@infinightsky]

+LeeLicious good luck with that lol

[@thebarrochannel]

+eljono1 same shit I thought! BOOM!

[@jackiechan_wtf4041]

+eljono1 After I saw this vid, I literally when to Famous Dave and ate a rack of ribs. lol

[@Cel-xq6pp]

I mean, my family is German and my great grandfather was a nazi soldier, but I don't wave the nazi flag everywhere claiming that it's 'part of my heritage'. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that our ancestors did shitty things and we shouldn't put them on a pedestal. Sure, keep it in a history museum, but there's no need to slap glorifying monuments everywhere.

[@CB-rv2lj]

what regiment was he in? where did he fight? I seriously doubt your great grandfather was a Nazi soldier.

[@a-t5380]

wouldnt go around saying that with any type of pride

[@ihateeveryjuan9943]

Corey B Why do you doubt that? And why do you care? He doesn’t need to share that information with you if he doesn’t want to.

[@CB-rv2lj]

its called a lie. because I'd like specifics. Is sharing facts bad? what the hell is this 21 questions? are you a cop?

[@ihateeveryjuan9943]

Corey B It’s not bad but if he doesn’t want to he doesn’t have to. And how would you know if it’s a lie or not?

[@kingjosh1213]

It’s almost like carrying around a swastika and say well my grandpa was a nazi! It’s my heritage!

[@littlebosaMusic]

Exactly.

[@Pantherking916]

The lady saying Black soldiers fought for the Confederacy. . . ummm, no, they didn't because by the Confederacy's own laws, it was illegal for a Black man to serve as much as it was for a Black man to vote. They DID, however, contribute to the Confederate war effort in the form of cooks, manual laborers, stable hands etc, and any image presented of Black men in Confederate uniforms is doctored for the purposes of the rewritten agenda. There is zero difference between the Confederate Battle flag and the National Socialist flag. Yes, you absolutely have the freedom of expression to display both to your hearts content. Just pahleez don't go cryin' to Jesus when someone takes exception to said display and wraps you up in it with a one way ticket to meet him.

[@manwithamustache1506]

Bro you are incorrect, there's plenty of blacks who support the Flag.

[@Pantherking916]

@@manwithamustache1506Dude, I don't deny that there are blacks who support the flag, however, it is a lie that blacks ever served in the Confederate Army simply because by the terms of the Confederate Constitution, it was illegal to do so.

[@thomasmaes5191]

Wrong. What about the 400 black freeman of Louisiana that fought to keep slavery alive because they were slave traders and owned slaves? Get educated before speaking falsely.

[@Buckeywolfe]

I respect this man for listening to all side without placing judgment, that the only way to salve a problem is to fully understand it

[@wes007parks]

mellow melo stfu you pleb.

[@bakuspiderninja6058]

Me two

[@davidallen346]

I enjoy this video I didn't feel offended watching this

[@SLACKLINEDUDE]

Vice can be really good at that where other news outlets fail.

[@hybridsolutions77]

how fucking ignorant are "you" REALLY??? number 1: learn how to fucking type, and please learn common sense, Comprehend

[@diegosuarez1563]

Didn't see any blacks at the rally, and only one at the bbq.

[@Cuhrryon]

Diego tu eres mexa pa que te metes en lo que no te incumbe

[@diegosuarez1563]

@@Cuhrryon This clip doesn't just concern blacks. It extends to minorities too. You should be concerned!

[@illuforce]

That's because most of the south doesn't have many black people.

[@Cuhrryon]

Diego I serve this country our country with pride every day. I serve so that people can have the liberties they want. If people like the flag and embrace who we where and build to make it better but let us not forget the past.

[@diegosuarez1563]

@@illuforce Have you ever been to the south? I live in the south!

[@Ballsack44]

If you forget history it’s bound to repeat itself.

[@joeyvazquez4423]

Having Kal do this is just hilarious, I can just imagine the one eyed inbread coming out the attic already lol

[@cholosocks]

When did Kumar start working for Vice? And is Harold the one filming?

[@gandalfthewhite9864]

+c0kewhites_ his weed money must of run out lol.

[@HeyDude93gt]

+c0kewhites_ I bet kumar is thinking this sucks! What NO white Castle? and what's this place called Krystal's?

[@mrobusto1010]

+c0kewhites_ Dude, Kal Penn worked for the Obama administration. Politics is his passion.

[@victor256in]

+c0kewhites_ Yes. He's Kal Penn (kalpen Thakkar) and he worked as an assistant the President at the White House.

[@cholosocks]

Yes I know this already, if you couldn't already tell I was making a joke, you know, humor? Jesus.

[@ashleegrant48]

Driving around in a japanese truck with a confederate flag hilarious

[@hueyfinesse]

most of these people aren't racist, and also japanese cars are the best in the world

[@eddiesaninocencio6635]

Toyota trucks are number 1 in America. Yeah you saw that i was laughing.

[@mgekelly]

Yes. To be consistent they should only put the confederate flag on trucks built in the CSA before 1865.

[@tracymacdonald4598]

I do believe Toyotas are made in Tennessee

[@tracymacdonald4598]

Rebel flag has been around all this time and just now it becomes a symbol of racism ? It's only because of the media made it a symbol of racism

[@matthewjahnke6956]

That's right. The flag IS NOT RACIST. It's the thought about it is. Look, let's dive deeper into it: 1. Georgia AND Mississippi flags changed. Closed Stone Mountain. Removed the names of our revered leaders from different things, such as: Schools. Roads. All of it.

[@jamerbunz5768]

Lmao "Southern Hospitality" i can relate Since im Southern from Mississippi

[@sawyergood3246]

Is Kentucky considered a southern state

[@Orrinwellsbigo]

The people at the barbecue are sober when they start to drink they will sing a different tune.

[@hv8236]

Facts 💯 💯

[@elchucofried5683]

ScottytooHotty That and the camera is on them.

[@johnspinelli9396]

What you don't say stupid shit when your drunk?

[@axehead7529]

Cause I think the flag is cool and is part of history I’m a racist. Well played

[@bujoun76]

Robert E. Lee himself said to get rid of that flag after the south lost the civil war. "History lesson" number 1.

[@johnnypinestead7879]

It was his battle flag. Not the Confederate flag. He lost, it's over. He didn't want to see that anymore. He was once a great US general that sided with his state. After it was over he didn't want to hold a grudge. Lee was only there for his "State" unlike when he was in the US army where he fought for the whole country. Many in the confederacy were fighting for their state. No General Lee statue should have been anyplace but Virginia. He didn't give a shit about the other 5 states that had his statue up. Some people are ignorent about the Civil War. Texas would have become its own country. That's all they wanted. There are 3 different History books. Southern Version, 45 other states Version, and then there is the Mississippi version (Ages 5-10)

[@rickyhits6547]

@Long Live Rhodesia shut up

[@BoogalooBoy]

@@johnnypinestead7879 Most southerners around here where i live dont even know to fly the right flag. Battle flags are what you charge into battle with, peace time i would fly the standard CSA flag or Bonnie blue flag

[@Boooooooooo541]

Long Live Rhodesia dumbass, the war was about slavery facist

[@johnpublic793]

@@johnnypinestead7879 Wrong. The states were independent countries before the war. And after the war not so, and that is what they fought against....I am Virginian so you are wrong. I am sure you are an outsider. The Lee family is also the Washington family and you don't have that say....Get an education. I am historian and you are an idiot.

[@jeffreypaulross9767]

THE ONLY TRUE CONFEDERATE FLAG 🏳️

[@1911dawg]

That’s the French flag dumbass

[@rogerout3416]

@@1911dawg The French weren't the only ones to surrender. But I don't recall treason being part of French history.

[@bamalifecooperative5969]

Im from Alabama and the Confederate flag needs to go! It's the past and time to move forward!!

[@Joseph-de3ls]

You're also the past, it's time for you to go too.

[@Galaxy-hx6ze]

For the lady at the beginning, let’s do the math: the Civil War ended in 1865, 2020 - 1865 = 155 years. How were you so close when you never met them?

[@joshdelaet3536]

Anti Galaxy 😂

[@squidward752]

You're dumb. Look at the upload date.

[@elchucofried5683]

@@squidward752 lmao

[@JVJ_2000]

Well how do the Black ppl who wants “reparations” know what their ancestors went through ?

[@wiseguy01]

@@JVJ_2000 called a history book, moron.

[@mr.spanish-e439]

Drinking Mexican cokes Lmao Hell yea

[@manny_menin022]

The south and Mexico are really not that different other than religion and language

[@ShroomsInLocker]

@@manny_menin022 Well most Mexicans tend to be Catholic/Christian just like White Americans.

[@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654]

Mexican Coca-Cola is cheaper and it taste better.

[@Master2594212]

@@manny_menin022 as a mexican living in Mexico I wouldnt say that we are that similar. I'd say that in some aspects us mexicans are more racist than americans, its just not as conspicuous since we are more of a homogeneous population.

[@drbadassx11]

@@Master2594212 I find that there are more similarities than differences, especially Mexicans who live in the northern part of the country.

[@Scoobydoo-kl1cg]

The shed in Biloxi is the best barbeque joint I’ve ever been too

[@chrisholley6083]

As a 38year old white male i unfortunately grew up n an environment where one of my best friends older brother had a Confederate flag above his bed in his room. Often giving us lessons on how whites are being taken over by the blacks and how they are a thorn in the side of the white community and if we didn’t do anything about it they would destroy our fabric of life. I also remember dressing in bomber jackets, red and white chucks, doc marrtins as well thinking I was cool. But it wasn’t at all i was being brainwashed by friends because I wanted to be accepted and be part of something and that something was nothing but hate. For these people to say that the Confederate flag isn’t racist and doesn’t have anything to do with hate should read a history book. I’m honestly scared for our society in the next 10-15years.

[@S1L3NTG4M3R]

as part of their heritage... THEY ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN... what do you think that means???

[@qcompressed1409]

They don’t think that but ok

[@janaek374]

There will be another civil war

[@Michael-ft3rc]

Hold on sport... You say "they". I'm white and from South MS and I do NOT feel that way. So don't put me in to that category!

[@cloroxbleach7377]

Janae Kuzawa good so powerful nations can take that as an advantage and take over America when America itself is dividing

[@Captain_Zero_]

Something similar to MAGA I am sure.

[@wishiwassleeping8382]

"People that think it was about slavery need a history lesson." - completely ignorant person

[@cotococotoquense9375]

Ok good argument

[@mexicanmemer529]

Well it was over the states and the unbalanced economy also the missouri compromise and kansas aka “bleeding kansas” so it wasnt about slaves really :/

[@alanxu3936]

@@mexicanmemer529 Might I ask what particular institution caused the difference in economies, the compromises, and bleeding Kansas?

[@diminished6834]

@@mexicanmemer529 slavery was the main cause of the war. It all comes back to slavery.

[@e.m.p.3394]

Unfortunately it was about Slavery. The Southern political problem was in fact Slavery. The sad truth is they were pure American businessmen who needed their products on time and had a pretty good operation going on that they wanted to keep. The enslavement of my people was a giant business operation. In which border states had civil conflicts over even before the official civil war itself. The South felt threatened by a Republican President who was partially sympathetic to the growing abolitionists movement. He was obviously a little bit sympathetic due to the emancipation proclamation. However it is a known fact that he did say if they would rejoin the union with the slaves he'd be fine with it. But the Confederates were just using the poor white farmers as warm body shields to keep the money moving.

[@sinisterkitten5444]

Is the interviewer the guy from adventures of Harold and kumar??😂

[@leeminchung9]

Yes

[@papagato1399]

The flag of Mississippi finally changed and i like that desgin.😁😸

[@ColtsMan2005]

It's ass

[@seanow8180]

I don’t understand Americans. Wasn’t that the flag of traitors?

[@bobbymcreynolds9313]

Yes

[@amandabeaty1492]

Don't worry. 95% of the planet doesn't understand Americans. I live above them and I don't understand them. It amazes me how two countries with very similar origins could be so different.

[@jrickducking6685]

No one hate American more than the American themselves

[@413benmc]

These people don't represent Americans... they represent a false narrative they've perpetuated in order to pretend their grandpappies werent fighting for an evil cause. Yes they are traitors.

[@Ryanofsuburbia22]

learn your history

[@dingerdaber34]

We live in the US now! Not the Confedarate states!!

[@PhilAVega]

MH very true 👍

[@terryknight5869]

Exactly, and also the female at the beginning of the video said that the confederate flag is her heritage and her family didn't own any slaves. I don't think this female would have this same sentiment if there was a flag that represented sexism and oppression against females and males hung it all over the place and a male said that it is his heritage and that his family never oppressed females.

[@johnphilips6868]

@Lenny Molnar yes

[@johnphilips6868]

@Marilyn Houston We only lost because general Lee surrendered if he kept going then maybe we would've won so we lost at our own will. He didn't wanna keep on killing his soldiers

[@angellacanfora]

I lived in Virginia for 6 years. There are those who feel "the War Between the States" never ended.

[@yeetus123]

Heritage not hate

[@ajon6205]

It is said that Hugh Hefner lasted longer in bed than the confederacy did in its entire existence

[@jimbobcutter849]

This video has been up longer than the confederacy existed.

[@donguello2281]

They can’t be racist if they have Mexican coke w the bbq

[@evanwhite2680]

They know the good stuff. Checks out

[@andresavila1548]

But yet I didnt see 1 mexican at the bbq

[@thegeminiguy1065]

@Manny Sereno So says George Floyd

[@raywilkinson3129]

I noticed that too haha

[@sofiagamez7007]

I drink mexican coke really cheap and easy to find since I'm from México.

[@craigalexander2632]

This comment will be a little lengthy so please bear with me. I'm a black man, born and raised in Corinth Mississippi. Love is all around that state from most everyone, but there's no doubt a tarnished history there. What most people fail to realize about that flag is that the Klan would brandish it whenever they did their dirty work back in the day, and even in the present, so of course there is some emotions whenever a person of color sees it. It brings back very painful memories of things that shouldn't have happened. Think of it as peeling a scab and recuting the wound. When they say it's apart of their heritage I understand, however it's technically apart of ours as well. A lot of hatred, death, and deceit surrounds that flag and it can't be taken away. My ancestors died senselessly for it as well, and were continually harassed after the war, even though the black code, Jim crow, and modern era. Let us not forget how the Freedom Riders we're welcomed by the state troopers in the 60's and this is just one of many displays of ignorance. At the end of the day I just hope we can move forward and rebuild our state and live together peacefully, because it's more important to focus on the future than the past, especially since our state is in the shape it is now. I love every Mississippian and want the world to see how much love there is from the people that live here, no matter the color.

[@kennethmitchell6184]

Thank you sir . You have pointed out the selective and short term memory of that flags supporters. The oppression of blacks go's on to this very day . I'm 62yrs old and still being to to go back to my own country. LMBAO!

[@sausagewizard6975]

Well said!

[@ZaChYmO]

Lovely comment and well articulated sir. And that's my stance, the confederate flag parallels a swastika and in Germany is illegal and go to jail if you display it publicly. I live in AZ and it is literally a disturbance when a confederate flag is being displayed, it give the sensation of being in the presence of the KKK. It is simply a hate symbol and white supremacists use as their swastika.

[@mr.curviac8277]

Let's make a deal: if Blas stop commiting felonies at 6x the rate of Whis then we can all live better lives.

[@3stax170]

@@kennethmitchell6184 I'm a little late to this party, sorry about that. It amazes me that people tell someone that was born in this country to go back to where they came from. Also calling people born in this country African American. Born in this country you are an American. So I'm with you! LMWAO

[@pamelawilliams1302]

Let me tell you why my family faught in the Civil war... a family of American Indians, with 11 children. The yanks came here demanding 75% of everything they had. First they took the kids blankets, 75% of the food and one of a pair of oxen. 2 months later they came back and took the last ox and the rest of the food. That is the time my GGgranddaddy joined the 14th artillery out of Winston County, MS. He sent the family running for their lives deeper into the forest...where we remain today. This flag is our symbol that we will fight to keep our family alive, we would die to keep our family alive. The lie is, it was about slavery...

[@jamesfstump]

Yes people think the war was faught over slavery it was the government we got now

[@KaligarPrimus]

The Rebel flag and the Confederate flag are 2 different flags and mean totally different things.

[@Gabe-qc5ji]

It was about states rights.... A state’s right to what tho...

[@abrakadabra9033]

Exactly

[@mexicanmemer529]

A states right to democracy and their own weight in economic stress

[@Gabe-qc5ji]

Genghis Khan slavery* Typos happen to all of us

[@Convexhull210]

The civil war was mainly about slavery but many southerners fought for the right to secession.

[@cracked_nebula1479]

@@mexicanmemer529 Comepletely false.

[@retroscorpion3021]

I love that 90% of the people in the comments don't even know what the civil war was about

[@toysoldier46552]

It was about slavery, and I'm a German not of European decent thank you but still White and get blamed for shit that had nothing to do with my family ever in life. But the North was trying to keep its slaves while stripping the South of its slave rights and other freedoms which no one cares to talk about, but I will say it, old glory is more racist than the Confederate Flag will ever be.

[@mattblack8253]

What was the Civil War fought over? The civil war was not fought over slavery or racism. It was about freedom, government and taxation without representation. Just as the war for American Independence (1776) the war for Southern Independence (1861) was fought over the federal government constantly trying to raise taxes on the Southern people.

[@Idkmyusernamewtfbruh]

Read the secession letters for each state and the Confederate constitution and tell me if your theory makes any sense. Slavery was the main issue and keeping Blacks held to the status of "property" was the main concern. It was so much of a concern that once the war ended and the south lost, most Southern states indoctrinated state constitutions to keep Blacks disenfranchised. Just research the Alabama Constitution Convention of 1901 which the idea behind the new constitution was to ensure no white males will lose their franchise (privilege) to Blacks. No matter what, the flag is offensive and treasonous.

[@TigerRifle1]

"Without representation". What do think Jeff Davis and Alexander Stephens were doing before the war? Was Charles Sumner caned by a ghost?

[@wes007parks]

Anthony E. It Wasn't just about slavery .

[@JW-uy2on]

I've seen people fly the Confederate flag here in Pennsylvania, a Union state. It's not about heritage; it's about white supremacy.

[@titanosaurusltd632]

I’ve seen it flown here in Illinois too. You’re right, all it represents is White Supremacy. I don’t understand Southerners.

[@williamlandim5408]

Anyone can appropriate a symbol.

[@Cardah]

I’ve seen it in California

[@albertoaguilar9773]

It depends on what meaning you give to the flag

[@alexhuerta6842]

I thought this guy just looked and sounded like kal Penn but I had no idea it was really him lol

[@ziggymorris8760]

The flag was about slavery and that doesn’t mean northerners were fighting to protect blacks or all southerners owned slaves, but the focal point for why the war became was 100% centered around slavery and it had been brewing below the surface since the Declaration of Independence was signed. The economics of both sides of the country: The north was industrialized and therefore did not have to rely on slavery for its workforce. The south was not industrialized and was agricultural and had to heavily rely on slavery to make the bulk of its profits. Northern states started to make laws that prohibited the trafficking of slavery which angered the southerner slave owners. The appointment of Lincoln as president who the south felt was an abolishist scared slave owners and felt he unlawfully became president because he did appear on any ballots in 13 southern states. The truth is Lincoln wanted to avoid war at all costs, that was gone when the south decided to skip diplomacy and fired on fort Sumter starting the civil war. Lincoln did not have to appear on those 13 ballots because he appeared on every ballot in all northern states which gave him 40% of the electoral voters which won the election for him legally. Yes, the majority of southern soldiers weren’t slave owners, so how could it be about slavery? Because the ones that ran the south and represented the south in government are the slave owners. They recruited those dumb farm boys to go off and fight for their wallet, so those soldiers were indirectly fighting because of slavery, those rich plantation owners had everything to lose and if farm boys had to die then so be it. The civil war was about slavery.

[@vedantmehra6970]

@ziggy morris thanks for the write up, it puts a lot into perspective, the American civil war has always been less understood in my part of the world

[@sunusholloway488]

I'm from here and live here you are correct some still to this day its more blacks here than any state in the USA(dead,alive,or incarcerated) but I love my state and where I come from plus know my history my real history alot of it was lose,hidden,and died with our ancestors but not all so too the people disrespecting my state if you not from here and live here stf about my state you don't know shit about Mississippi

[@sunusholloway488]

The flag not the problem its the politics and legislators

[@vedantmehra6970]

@@sunusholloway488 so would it be fair to say blacks are treated as equals without prejudice in ur home state ?

[@sunusholloway488]

@@vedantmehra6970 for you to ask me that question you far from understanding anything about my state

[@jakostein9943]

Can’t believe they got jimmy kimmel for this video

[@seleenam-ali4762]

Lmfao

[@OffTheCeiling]

Dude... Isn't that Kumar as in "Harold & Kumar"?

[@jacksonsumpton6280]

C caymer 😂😂😂

[@jacksonsumpton6280]

Facts!!!😂😂😂

[@dearnobody3764]

Jakostein bollywood version

[@baalnostalgia9547]

When the only symbol people can think of to represent their regional pride, is a flag used by a nation wholly in favour of slavery, well, it's probably not just about regional pride.

[@Lizalazal]

Tbh yes it was stated rights to choose But it was to choose whether to keep slavery or continue it. And that is protecting the institution.

[@Saint_Magnapinna]

So even though the confederate states explicitly fought to maintain their "peculiar institution" of slavery, the civil war was somehow not about slavery? Complete absurdity.

[@SD_yessir]

A P The Confederates used to be the leading producers of cotton. They would make their exports straight through the UK, but the Union wanted their exports to go through them and place heavy taxes on the confederates, so they blocked direct trade from England and forced their exports to be taxed by the Union, which was devastating for the southern economy. 5 of the Southern states wanted to retort against the Union’s taxes and make them put an end to it, but the Union didn’t listen. The 5 states then formed the Confederate States of America and warned the Union that these devastating taxes can be an act of war. (which had every right to be because an action that brings harm to a country or part of a country is by law, an act of war.) Many more Southern states began to follow in their footsteps, and seceded from the Union. The Confederates warned them one last time to repeal the tax act and there would be no bloodshed, and the Union responded by basically saying: “I’d like to see you try.” And so the American Civil War began. The war was PARTLY about slavery, but mostly it was against these taxes. The Confederates May have begun the war, but the Union could have prevented this, and they did nothing because they thought the Confederates were weak and pathetic. So many people from both sides died, all because of greed.

[@dawglifeisgood1423]

@A P your one of those huh smdh ......

[@mmur9233]

@@SD_yessir read Mississippi's succession document. It isn't ambiguous. It pretty much lays it out that because slavery was threatened they left. You talk taxation- taxation on what? Taxation on product obtained from slave labor. So you said slavery was a direct partial reason, and taxation was most of the reason....taxation as an argument for succession is still an indirect link to slavery as a cause.

[@30minuteOX]

I think people confuse the causes of war with the motivations of the individual soldiers fighting. Just looking at some recent conflicts, the historical lens for the cause of conflicts like Iraq and Vietnam rarely match the motivations of the men and women who volunteered to fight in those conflicts.

[@frankwhite6482]

He's right abraham Lincoln didnt go to war cus of slavery he wanted that money he only made about slaves to hide the truth of his true intentions

[@tkruger1383]

You know the kkk also uses the American flag not just the confederate flag

[@shittyopinions]

The KKK is Democratic and made up...You are probably the racist.

[@Debbie52S]

Unfortunately, yes. They believe they represent and fight for the true America, what they think America is supposed to be.

[@greggoryzimmerman603]

@aaron Young the min someone post facts u go and call him a racist because u don't agree with facts.

[@shittyopinions]

@@greggoryzimmerman603Incorrect and on the contrary. To believe that America, racism, the confederate flag and KKK is somehow synonymous with being white means you discriminate by skin color. White skin color. rac·ism [ˈrāˌsizəm] NOUN prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. "a program to combat racism" synonyms: racial discrimination · racialism · racial prejudice/bigotry · xenophobia · chauvinism · bigotry · bias · intolerance · anti-Semitism · apartheid the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. "theories of racism"

[@shittyopinions]

@@greggoryzimmerman603It's you who runs when faced with fact.

[@JPabloRL]

The South is the only place I know which celebrates and takes pride losing a war.

[@janetmerner3731]

It is the south's major accomplishment.

[@williamlandim5408]

This comment of yours shows nothing, but a huge sense of ignorance. Many wars have been lost and still are celebrated: in my country, Brazil, the State of São Paulo celebrates the Constitutionalist Revolution of 32, when it attempted to get rid of then president Getúlio Vargas and pass a democratic constitution. In short terms, we - São Paulo - lost the war, but we celebrate it because it reminds us of our combative spirit, of people who fought for something, whether it was right or not, an it still plays a huge role in our regional culture. Also, many rebellions in the past - both by commoners, slaves among others - were repealed by the State, both in Brazil as well as in the rest of the American continent, yet no one says that black people celebrate lost while engaging in rebellions. Weird, isn't it?

[@JPabloRL]

@@williamlandim5408 You’re right I am ignorant about a country I don’t live in. Not only am I ignorant, I don’t care. If you care so much, go to the South and share you story wit the rest of the losers.

[@ColinFox]

Mississippi's *primary* motivation for seceding was they wanted to keep slavery, and they were explicit about it. Mississippi considered slavery one if its pillars.

[@shangosankofa9560]

Slavery, they say “get over it”! Well, why don’t you get over losing the civil war!? Why can’t we ALL enjoy them sweet ass Daisy Dukes!? It’s a symbol, LET IT GO!!!

[@chewysock1763]

U need to let it go ur the ones upset about everything

[@ybdee8232]

@@chewysock1763 why would we not when were steady being killed ? Two men were just found hanging from a tree 50 mins away from eachother in the west and a woman was found hanging from a tree in the south in a back of a walmart ? So how can you get over something thats steady happening?

[@chewysock1763]

Two people with over 20 cops dead by of this good cops too burning down businesses looting really sorry but this is my opinion

[@aaronaverheart4567]

@@ybdee8232 120 blacks and counting have been hung since George Floyd was killed. I think it was planned out. Jersey is huge with klan.

[@Naferner_Said]

If that’s the case, the American flag, the flag of the democrats, who created the kkk is also racist.

[@Kiserai90]

Traitor's flag. Sincerely, U.S. Service member

[@yonismo4098]

@American Patriot! u cant spell for shit. Uneducated boomer

[@richardcheese6161]

i agree, the united states flag is a traitors flag. It betrays the original idea that the founding fathers had.

[@Kiserai90]

@@richardcheese6161 The founding fathers structured our constitution in a way which would allow our society to be flexible and adapt with future norms. The south will forever be a stagnant unchanging mess.

[@richardcheese6161]

@@Kiserai90 that is a very incorrect statement. The founding fathers structures the government so that the federal government would not become too powerful. The us flag represents federalism and globalism, you fought for the wrong country.

[@Kiserai90]

@@richardcheese6161 maybe you should go read up on the powers afforded to the federal government via the constitution.

[@_Mr.D]

"NOT a hospitable symbol". So eloquently and succinctly expressed! Bravo

[@kichigan1]

I'm a Latino from progressive Oregon now bringing internet to Rural, Deep South towns, like Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina. I brought with me a lot of prejudices against people of the south. Most of my encounters with people here are really nice. It's very common that people come out of their homes or stop their cars to offer us water for the heat.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

I've got an idea for a movie. "Harold and Kumar escape from Mississippi"😂

[@publiccharge3847]

😁

[@StAlchemyst]

IT would be a short boring movie. Harold and Kumar "Hey e are lost could you show us how to get out of Mississippi and back home. By the way that's a cool car with the confederate flag on it!" Guy with the cool car "Sure guys! Well what you want to do is make your way over to the interstate in that direction then head north." H & K "Thanks!" The End

[@heru-deshet359]

"Harold and Kumar steal the General Lee".

[@wizardofahhhs759]

@@heru-deshet359 😄

[@grizzlygrizzle]

I watched their Escape from Guantanamo movie with a friend, and it was so stupid that I had to apologize for bringing the dvd.

[@chrislrob]

This brother is saying EXACTLY what I've been trying to articulate! Black people have a Southern heritage, too! They have a Southern history, too!

[@chrislrob]

@@dluvv19761 And many more don't. Why would they support the flag of traitors?

[@chrislrob]

@NotLDaz I don't even know what you mean. Many Black Southerners recognize it as the flag of traitors. What modern immigrants are you talking about?

[@chrislrob]

@@dluvv19761 Sure they were. Better that you fly the ISIS flag--they're still America's enemies, but at least they're not traitors!

[@chrislrob]

@@dluvv19761 I stopped reading after "federal corporation". Did you say something else?

[@chrislrob]

@@dluvv19761 I apologize for going back and forth with you. You should have worn your sign! LOL!

[@mattalley4330]

A couple of points to make... First, the "confederate flag" was not the flag of the confederate states of america but rather the battle flag of the army of northern virginia. Second, the "confederate flag" was not flown during the reconstruction era. It was resurrected as a symbol by, of all groups, the Klan when they began opposing the civil rights movement in the late 50s.

[@williamdukeofnormandy1403]

lol. The flag was not the cause of slavery. There are racists in every state, of all colors.

[@steve_eichel56]

That’s what I’m saying but people oh ways blame white people for everything but don’t understand it’s not only white people that are racist

[@Ben00000]

The Confederacy had a population of approximately 9 million people of which 3.5 million were African slaves. Saying "there are racists in every state, of all colors" sorta dilutes the fact that the overwhelming majority (if not all) Confederates were extremely racist against exactly one color.

[@HogExeNadoUser]

@@steve_eichel56ho here in the comments said that whites were the only ones who were racist? Why do you feel the need to bring this up? Why do you respond to anti racism by saying “All PEEplEs ArE rAcIsT!”

[@nicholascarter630]

This honestly is the best reporter from vice I've seen in a long time

[@chasmofsar2691]

@@OlGregge he's still a good reporter.

[@josephwatson8448]

@@OlGregge who?

[@josephwatson8448]

@@OlGregge l'm sorry l voted for TRUMP. l don't speak SJW Feminist emoji.

[@jokshtv]

Kumar wassup you high

[@cathyt144]

Nicholas Carter i saw him on an episode of LAW &ORDER SVU. a few years ago.

[@ol8576]

Did she just say they had to start all over “black and white together”? I think you are the one who needs a history listen ma’am.

[@iyumiblue]

Yeah, I was scratching my head at that.

[@vivalajoce5195]

Oscar Lopez mississippi ranks 46th in education

[@scl1332]

Yes it is true slaves were free and became free people and worked together through harmony in the south. With terms and conditions Like how former Confederate officials got to stay in power and did everything and I mean everything they could do to belittle and and harass the free blacks people. The KKK, the incoming Jim Crow laws it wasn’t peaches like this woman said it was

[@ki_billy6630]

they did work together because the north left us in rubble and no one could sit on their ass and do nothing because our home was destroyed

[@dogbean5015]

Nigga they talking about reconstruction

[@Stepdad606]

Yo Is that the guy from designated survivor lol

[@deekingamer1256]

We should never forget the history if we forget it it could happen again

[@aeronbarreras2923]

I have a feeling they were taught a skewed version of american history....

[@zs4964]

Just a slight feeling lol

[@lakelandfl9328]

I think VICE had another video up that showed exactly this. The Daughters of the Confederacy spread books into the schooling system teaching "the real history."

[@The_-_-]

That actually is kinda true, because it's the sisters of the confederacy (who's founders were Confederate war widows) who wrote the history books in many places of the south.

[@BChan1991]

👀

[@ryana3679]

Everyone is taught a version of someone else’s truth.

[@captainhowdy2420]

I used to spend summers in Alabama as a kid.....Southern hospitality is a mile wide and an inch deep.

[@owen-nd7om]

I've met some good people in the south but a lot of people also talked shit to me because of my California license plates or when they found out that's where I was from

[@justinlecroy5217]

Where at in AL?

[@justinlecroy5217]

@RDT 205 Where at friend? I'm in Cullman County.

[@owen-nd7om]

@RDT 205 yeah lol I expected people to be nicer in the south so I guess it isn't good to believe stereotypes

[@justinlecroy5217]

@RDT 205 I was born in BHAM. Been in Cullman county since I was 4. Nice to meet you. WDE!!!! If you're a big football fan send me a FB message.I'll add you to some groups.

[@rodneyarmstead4445]

This was a great piece.

[@isuckatlife27]

I really hope he left their toothbrushes alone

[@bernardschmitt6389]

The southern states said in their declaration of independence that the main reason for leaving was because they feared the union wanted to free slaves

[@JohnDoe-rg4tl]

because the union believed slaves would take over the free whites' jobs since it is free labor

[@resiyun]

Yeah and it was just a coincidence that they tried getting independence just as Abraham Lincoln was elected who strongly wanted to free ALL slaves which coincidentally all the confederate states heavily relied on for income.

[@oliverford5367]

Confederate Vice President at the time wrote to Lincoln saying he believed in slavery because of "the inferiority of the black race". Nobody at the time denied it was about slavery and white supremacy.

[@sublow]

"so, beyond slavery, what other significance does it have for you?" - no answer

[@caman171]

the significance is "the proper interpretation of the constitution...."state" means "nation"...the USA was the equivalent of the european union now. states had the right to leave at any time. our original constitution was called "articles of CONFEDERATION" every state even had its own currency. jefferson davis was never tried for treason because the fed govt was afraid the supreme court would rule in his favor...which would mean secession was constitutional.....so a southerner could actually be against slavery and still fight for the south. robert e lee was opposed to slavery while grant owned slaves. 96% of southerners were poor who never owned slaves. trust me. no poor white man would ever fight and die for the rights of a rich slave owner, who used poor whites almost as much as they did slaves. thats where the term 'redneck" actually comes from. its what the rich white men called the poor white men, cause they worked bent over in the fields, with their neck getting sunburned. so when u have troops breakin in ur house, raping ur wives and daughters and stealing ur livestock, trust me youd fight them too. ever read about the mass desertions in the union army when the emancipation proclamation came out? have u ever read the entire thing? it did NOT free slaves in any territory controlled by the north

[@thomasmaxwell954]

@@caman171 the confederacy is Un-American, they fought against America and they should be seen as traitors to America.

[@caman171]

@@thomasmaxwell954 you need an education. when the USA was formed it was the equivalent of the European Union now. the word "state" means "nation" look it up. The Queen of England is "HEAD OF STATE" every state had its own currency, its own army (militia) etc etc. we were a "union of states in america"..also the original founding document was called "the articles of CONFEDERATION"..sound familiar? when the federal govt goes beyond its authority to control the states, the states have the right to disassociate. otherwise we become a dictatorship, which is what we are on the road to now

[@thomasmaxwell954]

@@caman171 we were a country called the United States of America, the southern states seceded from our country and fought American troops and killed thousands of them, the confederacy was inherently un American, they despised America and our values, that’s history, facts don’t care about your feeling

[@caman171]

@@thomasmaxwell954 sorry but as a historian i know what im talkin about. what are ur credentials?? when George Washington and Robert E Lee spoke of their "country" they always said "Virginia"..u have google, use it. the reason to this day we dont have a "national" official language, is because the fed govt had no authority to declare one. thats why many "states" have declared english as their official language. the Republic of Texas joined the Union, because they didnt have to cede any of their power as a "state" (nation) to join, and to this day enshrined in their constitution, they declare "Texas Sovereignty" is forever. why do u think we are the only place on earth who doesnt use "province" or other words? why do we use "state"? has any other "country" had more than 30 currencies in use at the same time like we did? why would curreny from georgia not be good in south carolina? unified american currency did not exist until AFTER the civil war.

[@jarrodtha1678]

She said we’re peaceful people that was the funniest joke I’ve ever heard 4:42😂😂😂

[@noaht5191]

To say these people were so “hateful”, they sure were welcoming to Kumar.

[@classiccarfanatic]

That badass 69 Charger, hell ya!!!

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

The General Lee

[@BRAXMANoftheS]

silverbird58: yes please.

[@Kashmirknight]

I always thought the General Lee was a 68.

[@e-curb]

@@Kashmirknight .. You are right, the General Lee was a 68 Charger. And they destroyed hundreds of them for the TV series.

[@adambreckenridge3741]

@@e-curb no it was a 69

[@Untilhecomes85]

The South has the best food in the U.S.!!!

[@zer0nero]

@ganymedeIV4 So you're saying every Southern Dish was invented by African Americans? I wanna see what kind of history you have been learning!

[@thisisformylove4386]

Probably the best in the world brother, don't come to Australia mate ... you'll fucking starve 🤣🤣

[@Untilhecomes85]

@Martin Dennis Martin Martin you dont have to eat fat ppl are everywhere in the U.S. so keep your statistics..

[@Untilhecomes85]

@Martin Dennis live your life infact live you best life those fat ppl have to worry about that themselves

[@michaeljordan9879]

@@Untilhecomes85 fat people don't worry about it themselves. They are the people who have the worst health problems and are also the people least able to pay for it. Obesity and poverty go hand in hand. Obesity becomes the taxpayer's burden.

[@Luca-pz2pv]

When Kal Penn was eating with the family, I'm pretty sure those were Mexican cokes at the table

[@BeefCake1012]

“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” -Alexander Stephens, VP of the Confederacy, Cornerstone Speech, March 21st, 1861. But yeah Jethro… “tHe cIviL wAr wAs abOuT sTaTeS rAiGhTs.”

[@jiujitsuboxer]

Every flag has led to death and oppression of someone, even the American flag.

[@RatTaxi]

It's sad, isn't it? I never thought of it that way. It's why "imagine" was chosen as song of the 20th century.

[@Danielito9320]

Except one flag

[@shrimpygumbo1185]

So true

[@jiujitsuboxer]

Tammy T name a country who has 100% peace. Name one has not displaced any native people or killed any other group of people in the name of their country. Stop harping on the past.

[@jiujitsuboxer]

Tammy T I agree with you should know your history so you are not doomed to repeat it. My harping on the past comment is people who are referring to the harm of slavery who weren’t present when it happened.

[@xxgetshot55xx84]

(5:19) slaves Who fought in the war they were promised freedom and land, so of course they choose that.

[@ismth]

Right, this woman doesn’t want to reckon with slavery or racism and has accepted her version of history to avoid the harsh truth. Smh cognitive dissonance

[@b.t.1632]

Same deal they were offered in the revolutionary War.

[@mysslesa]

Yep and they were LIED TO! Fought and brought right back into slavery through the black laws.

[@nikmidclayton5933]

When the states succeeded that flag/was put up for risk of loss. They lost and lost that flag. It does represent other things like heritage but with it tied to slavery it will never be accepted. Its only a matter of time before its gone completely

[@wildestcowboy2668]

I'm Brit and even I bloody know what the flag stands for! Big guys trying to push little guys around. God bless the South. Greetings from Britain.

[@HogExeNadoUser]

Heritage Of hate

[@rabeyamarwan1468]

Kumar...what are you doing

[@jackpavlik563]

rabeya marwan journalism, bro.

[@lunamaria1048]

Kumas last movie role i remember was a bit (no dialogue) henchman part in the Superman Return movie a decade ago lol.. He clearly needs work lol

[@genevievemarie9427]

Lunamaria Kal Penn is an actor and activist, he worked in the White House during President Obama's administration

[@1188clean]

hes still looking for white castle

[@carlosjenkins68]

Lunamaria lmao

[@mikeyoung3085]

Please just ask 1 question: 1. Aren't you glade the North won? After that, nothing else needs to be said.

[@mikeyoung3085]

Where is the part of why did the parties switch.

[@mkshffr4936]

Mixed bag. The cost extended far beyond the lives lost. We tend to over simplify just about everything including the war between the states. The tyranny of the federal government has roots in the war. The resulted in a mix of liberty and bondage. Am I glad that the institution of slavery is gone in America? Absolutely. Am I glad that we are all in bondage to the federal government, bureaucracy, and judiciary? No. History isn't as neat and tidy as a bumper sticker.

[@someoneuppingdudetechnical6320]

@@0cean1c47 problem is a lot of people are not glad that the north won

[@og-greenmachine8623]

AMERIKKKA🇺🇸 Won?

[@cowboymarshall9983]

It's heritage and people just need to accept that. I dont like people who try to change history because its alway gonna be there and there ain't nothin nobody can do bout it. and if you dont like racism stop talking bout it and making jokes about it. And i am not a racist i love to see black and white people getting along but it just hurts me that they are trying to take away something from our history. but i agree that in the end southerns all love each other and they all want each other to be happy and get along no matter the case.

[@amazingman63]

"State rights" is what people say who dont really know any history about that particular right

[@oh.proxii]

Yo can we get Kumar for some more Vice docs again? That'd be great. He has a great speaking voice and a friendly face that I think makes for good docs.

[@Pulang_Diwa]

I loved him in How I Met Your Mother and Designated Survivor.

[@haydengoodall6767]

@ahmed ali California Pennsylvania?... Wait for it.

[@ricardopedroza2769]

The klan really knows how a party

[@Madronaxyz]

I'm a fifth generation southerner. I am in my 60's. Even as a little girl, I could see the racism.

[@thebeanzgriffins2346]

Can't move forward

[@El-RaShahzad]

Thank You!!!!

[@myroomisdirty]

Madronaxyz you need a strong southern man to keep you warm?

[@DogeCoinInvestor]

Alabama im assuming this is satire but damn that’s pretty fucked

[@nonyabizness.original]

ironic, madronaxyz, that we can all just ~assume~ that you are white. because of course no 60+ year old black person would say they saw racism while growing up in the south- it utterly goes without saying.

[@zakirazak5812]

I went to MSU in 1980 as a foreign student. Missisippians are nice people.

[@chuck3938]

I was down in Ms. for the past 7yrs and I never ran into these yahoos. We did a lot of fishing and the six packs were only $5. It was great.