Bought a 1999 Hymer S510 8 years ago for £16.5.. lived in it full time since.. just insurance, diesel and sundries..❤ been from UK to Morocco and as far East as Armenia in it..❤
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @Paul_anderson_creative. How has it held up in all these years?
@jeffatkins6890Ай бұрын
Bought my 584 1999 for 21 grand 10 years ago it’s done me proud , off to Spain again soon , happy days
@keepitreal154716 күн бұрын
Have you lived in it mostly off grid or sites? If off grid I'd love to know if you've had many problems with being asked to move on?
@eviemaАй бұрын
The prices of those are crazy. Sure they look nice but really a cupboard is a cupboard, and a shower is a shower no matter how nice it’s made to look. I could never justify spending that much on a motorhome / campervan. Great video ‘tho. We didn’t get to go to see the show so your video has showed us what we missed. We will only ever be buying 2nd hand.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Buying a brand new vehicle is always going to be more expensive than a old one, @eviema. I think next year we may see them dropping in price or manufactures going under
@wilmafallon8712Ай бұрын
@Herm . Grt news for future buyers! The steps beside the seating areas is grt, Ideal for shorter people , no dangling feet in the air. 😀 I was wondering if you get paid for individual comments on theses different make vans , apart from subscriptions . Thank you 😁
@fgarbl399224 күн бұрын
Good to see that people have the same opinion on both sides of the Channel. Prices are crazy and there is no sign that the situation could improve. I guess that the market will still be favorable for people selling their used motorhomes for sometime.
@HermanHitstheRoad24 күн бұрын
I don't get paid for filming the vans, @wilmafallon8712. Why do you ask?
@dgibson525223 күн бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad Have you actually gone and seen what the base vehicles cost before the converters even drill a hole in them? Can't see the prices dropping. It may be that some manufacturers will go under though. A lot of the cost of the base vehicle cost is driven by increased legislation on required safety features and on customer expectations of what they require fitted etc.
@ipirrie6734Ай бұрын
Let's face it, the dealers aren't taking 15k off these to do us a favour. They are way over priced and not selling now at these crazy over inflated prices. How about doing a video comparing new prices pre covid (2019) to what they are now. That would make good viewing
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Interesting idea, @ipirrie6734. I'll have to think about and see if I've got any pre-covid footage
@dgibson525223 күн бұрын
Look at raw material prices pre covid to post covid as well as base vehicle costs plus energy costs, wage costs etc.
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
If I was to buy a new caravan/motorhome/campervan I would only buy from a nearby ( as close as possible) dealer. So WHEN it needed warranty work and lets be realistic it is the customer who in effect does the P.D.I. then I wouldn't be travelling silly distance to take them get home then go back to collect the unit
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
A good piece of advice, @daletinsley2954 - buy locally. Thanks
@cornwallnickАй бұрын
Probably best NEC 2024 video I have seen this year. 😊
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks @cornwallnick 👍👍. What makes you say that? What am I doing that others aren't?
@cornwallnickАй бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad You had a specific reason for the vans you show ( budget ). Concise videos of each van, not too much or too little detail for an overview, price given. Found the light switch humorous. Was not bored at any point or feel the need to skip parts. 👍
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks again, @cornwallnick. That really helps me for future videos. It sounds like I doing something right 👍👍👍
@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGEАй бұрын
38:35. "Krypton factor", that takes me back.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
There's nothing like it now and has never been since, @IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE 👍👍
@jockserb340526 күн бұрын
A local dealer near Dundee is asking £69,169 for a brand new 2024 Auto-Trail C71. However, after searching on AutoTrader, I found the same model, also 2024, listed for £59,995 automatic gearbox - and you can even get a manual version brand new for £57,495. The market is definitely dropping now. The question is, would you be prepared to drive all the way back to the original dealer to have your van fixed, or would you arrange to go to an Auto-Trail recommended repairer? That might be an option for warranty work if a repairer is closer . What surprises me is that even if a local dealer didn’t sell you the motorhome or caravan, they might still service it for you - but they won’t handle warranty work. And here’s another warning: if you buy a caravan or motorhome brand new from a dealer, then decide to sell it while it’s still under warranty, the new owner might assume they can get warranty work done at the selling dealer. However, the dealer is under no obligation to provide warranty repairs for second owners, even if they sold the vehicle new unless you purchased it from the dealers. So, buyers beware. Sorry i had to add this.
@dgibson525223 күн бұрын
Yes, that's true, the dealers make no margin on warranty work as the hourly rate is slashed by the manufacturer and they get no pay for processing the warranty claim. The rely on potential repeat sales if they look after the customer well. The only way a local dealer were to take on warranty work would be if you offered to top up the warranty work to their normal hourly rate and add in a service or something.
@HermanHitstheRoad21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great info, @jockserb3405 👍👍
@ari.voutilainenАй бұрын
It is always interesting to see new design choices. Sometimes you do wonder, what the designer was thinking. Eg the cutlery drawer which takes the floor of a large cupboard, or a foldaway sink paired with a foldaway toilet. Not sure how practical that would be in use. Thanks for the video!
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @ari.voutilainen 👍👍
@jeffatkins6890Ай бұрын
Just changed the hydraulic unit on my Hymer ! thanks for the video on u tube , it was invaluable
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
You're welcome, @jeffatkins6890. Glad it helped
@Wheres_wanda_wanderingАй бұрын
Thank you for showing us around these vans. I liked the 590 roller team best of the ones you showed but still prefer Wanda. I do love your light switch obsession as some are in really silly places like in a cupboard😮. I’m not a fan of the folding, changing washrooms as I think that they would be hard to clean. Take care Gill
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
I never thought about how difficult a folding shower would be to clean, Gill. Surely, it's just a matter of running the shower over the walls? 🤣😲🤔
@davidjacksonjackson3212Ай бұрын
Very good vid to confirm I cannot afford a new motorhome.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Yeah, they are a bit expensive, @davidjacksonjackson3212.
@kp050960Ай бұрын
Very interesting. You showed me a couple the wife and i missed, so thank you for that. Good prices compared to the rest, and i do enjoy your concise reviews. But please can you add one little detail that's quite important to many, I think. - Number of berths and belted seats. However! As some of you responders point out, £60000 plus is still an awful lot of money for a good proportion of the UK populus. £60000 over 10 years, or 120 months, with interest, is going to knock you back, somewhere in the region of £600/month. That is a mortgage price for many! To end on a positive note though, it is good to see that the motorhome/campervan industry recognises this and do try to produce a range that may be within reach of the, more average, earner. Thank you for your reviews.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @kp050960. I'll try to remember adding the number of berths and seat belts next time👍👍
@geoffcampbell784625 күн бұрын
A great video Ads, I notice they are mostly fitted with Hobbit sized beds and table seating areas. I think I prefer Herman to most of these vans. Thanks for a great walk around though. Cheers 👋 🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇦🇮🇪
@HermanHitstheRoad21 күн бұрын
Thanks @geoffcampbell7846 👍👍
@bindatek880124 күн бұрын
What about Elddis 115 range under 6m length and can be bought new £59k from most dealers? They are a no junk no gadget, honest to goodness practical van.
@HermanHitstheRoad21 күн бұрын
Thanks @bindatek8801. Unfortunately, I didn't see them at the show
@Wee-Rex21 күн бұрын
In return to the UK in April 2025 for 6/7 months and am considering taking to the road full time. Some of these are at the very outer edge of my budget. I’ve been focusing on used up to now. But this gets me thinking 🤔
@HermanHitstheRoad21 күн бұрын
Well, @Wee-Rex after 1 April 2025 more tax will be added to new registered vehicles
@slmon66Ай бұрын
Last year at the NEC. We seen a chausson in a Ford transit auto fixed bed in grey. S697 GA sport line: Looked amazing. Was £59.667 Base spec. Show spec. £65.000
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Nice, did you buy it, @slmon66 ?
@suziq4394Ай бұрын
Well that makes a refreshing change... 😊
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for your comment, @suziq4394 but what do you mean by "refreshing change"? Is it something I'm doing that you enjoy in the video?
@suziq4394Ай бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad I meant looking at the budget end of the market ( if you can call 50/60k budget!) Most look at 80/90/100+ as if it's remotely affordable to the average person. We were in the position to buy a new van 4 years back but chose not too... so glad we didn't.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
I see. Thanks for your feedback, @suziq4394 👍👍
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
As for the campers with 16/17k of extras. I bought a brand newly converted Renault trafic pop top for 17k. Mint condition full service history one owner. So the price of the base van will allow me to own/use/travel/maintain/service/repair it much longer than il own it. Food for thought eh !
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Oh yeah, a campers base vehicle are from £40k+ even before the conversion, @daletinsley2954. So, if your camper was converted when it was new then it would have cost you £57k+. Second hand is always going to be cheaper than brand new.
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
I often see units on dealer forecourts ( rove oaktree SMC etc ) with very low mileage and less than a year old. Why would someone buy their dream purchase then give up on it and lose daft amounts of money in such a short space of time. Against my advice a workmate bought a brand new elddis avante 550 in jan19. Three months later I had to talk him out of setting fire to it. It wouldn't have burned anyway as it was too damp !!
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
I guess some people have life changing issues that they have to sell their new purchase?
@davej433Ай бұрын
Interesting to see ones that don't require me to sell a kidney 😂 . Cheers
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Yeah, you don't want to do that, @davej433 🤣. Thanks for commenting
@lorettaobrien8599Ай бұрын
He he
@delcassie1337Ай бұрын
Having looked at buying a new motorhome, I have noticed a huge difference in the build quality and the materials used in the last 3 to 4 years. To be honest I would not waist my money on any new motorhome or car for that matter. You get a better build quality and far superior longevity out of an older van (pre 2020) than you will get from the poor quality vans being sold in todays market. Even the big names like Burstner and Hymer vans are falling apart in weeks of being purchased. You only have to look around the forecourts of the dealers to see the reduction in prices on vans from 2022/23 that they cannot sell. The secondhand market has now become so strong that many dealers are no longer stocking new vans because they have become a financial risk.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @delcassie1337 but I think the reason they can't sell new vans is due to the covid bubble - there are so many second hand ones out there
@carolynandcocohaywood2638Ай бұрын
Good reviews Ads. How weird putting a light switch in a cupboard, what are the makers thinking!!
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Yeah, that's a weird one, @carolynandcocohaywood2638. It gave me the idea of searching for the light switch every time
@endofsociety18 күн бұрын
It amazes me how much cheaper these things are than what you can get in the US. Some even cheaper by 100k
@rodbtelenetbeАй бұрын
Very strange to see that they almost all have a build in oven. Think your country is the only one where they build in standard an oven. How comes is my question for years. Thx for the video
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Great question, @rodbtelenetbe 👍. I didn't look too much at the specs but you'll probably find they are an extra rather than fitted as standard, unless the van is British then they probably are fitted as standard. I could be wrong though. The main reason we have ovens fitted in British motorhomes is because of the weather! We won't always be able to cook and eat outside because it could be raining. And if it isn't raining then it might rain in the next 10 minutes! 🤣
@chrismartin434127 күн бұрын
Because our weather is lousy at best so only outdoor cooking a few times a year and we like pie 😂
@vickiphillips4876Ай бұрын
I went and found one which matches your criteria I think :- Auto Trail stand £52,000 but only two berth
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
That's great, @vickiphillips4876. Do you remember the model?
@dandun3026 күн бұрын
Yes expedition 66 I put a deposit down £52700, I could of got it cheaper but I went for grey instead of white an extra 700 quid
@vickiphillips487625 күн бұрын
Loved the layout in a compact van . Hope you have many years of happy motoring . Not quite ready to buy yet
@50mantravelling52Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video but none to suit us. Just wondering why all the ones selected either have 3 or 4 traveling seats. We selected our one as it only has 2 travelling seats allowing more space in the living area, interestingly the dealer we bought from said in smaller (6m) vans that 2 seat version was the most popular. Our previous van had 4 traveling seats but our passengers complained about the comfort big time!! Thanks for posting 👍👋
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
The only category I used while looking for cheap motorhomes at the show was the price, @50mantravelling52. I did notice that most of the layouts are very very similar.
@michaelawilson7048Ай бұрын
I noticed that you didn't include a look at the joa 60f at £60000 for a manual gearbox ?
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Oh, I must of missed that one, @michaelawilson7048. Do you know if it at the show?
@CarolineJackson-t7zАй бұрын
I would like to see Knaus if there are any and A class Motorhome please. Thank you
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
There weren't any cheap Knaus motorhomes that I could see at the show @CarolineJackson-t7z.
@helenascott389Ай бұрын
Good video, could you add number of seat belts, space for a dog etc not everyone has bikes etc. Thank you 🐶🇬🇧
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, @helenascott389 👍. Someone else asked about putting in the amount of seat belts and berths, so I may do that in the future. Spaces for dogs though 🤔? I’m not sure how I'd do that since dogs come in many sizes. Watching these videos should (I hope) give you an idea of what you'd do with the space available. When I point out a space for bikes I realise not everyone has a bike but it should give folks an idea of how large the space is. That's the idea anyway. I hope that helps?
@helenascott389Ай бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad I suppose not really the size, but accessibility from inside and outside van, and actual areas they can be put in. I would think more people have pets than bikes, was only an idea. 🇬🇧🐶
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks again for your feedback. I'll think about dogs when I do another video 👍👍
@davidhayes481417 күн бұрын
A basic L3 H2 140PS Boxer van with no discount, no windows and no metallic paint costs £41K. I am not sure why folk expect £50K converted Campers. You could just about build it yourself for £10K parts,(plus van) with your free skills, free workshop time but it would not have the value of a branded vehicle……. I drive such a vehicle, bought cheaply off the previous owner who got Coast 2 Coast to convert it.
@HermanHitstheRoad4 күн бұрын
Yes, the huge cost is the main van, @davidhayes4814 👍👍
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
Why do sink/hob manufacturers use glass lids. Too easy to break and not much use as work surface. Just put hinged plastic or wooden lids on. I made my own for my campervan
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @daletinsley2954. I would guess it's because glass is more heat resistant than wood or plastic? I've heard of folks making replacement lids out of wood after the glass one was smashed
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
Yes that's right but one wouldn't put the lid down until cooled off. Thanks for uploading this video. You are an owner/user who " sees " these vans in their true form. Keep them coming
@andrewtucker3070Ай бұрын
@@daletinsley2954it would almost certainly be illegal to use a flammable material. Even in caravans where there is no hob lid the wall behind is heat resistant.
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
Some bailey caravans do this now !!
@GonzoMallorca19 күн бұрын
Where are the light switches?
@daletinsley2954Ай бұрын
!! How come a motorhome can be 15k less at a show. It just tells me that the original price is 15k too much. Imagine being parked up adjacent someone who had bought theirs 15k cheaper. Id be in tears.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
I'm guessing that it's probably because they need to get rid of the old stock, @daletinsley2954
@andrewtucker3070Ай бұрын
In the current market they are heavily discounted both at the show and in the showroom. The showroom sticker price might not be discounted quite as much but would be available if they think you will walk away.
@yunuspatel780Ай бұрын
They not cheaper for the show, you can buy them at the same price anyway from the dealer's website, they even advertised at the reduced price on autotrader
@dgibson525223 күн бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad Some manufacturers are giving a subsidy to the dealers with 2024 stock as well to help them make room for the 2025 stock so it's not just a dealer discount.
@joshlovingoutdoors4455Ай бұрын
50 is still too much, how much income would someone have to earn to afford even that? To borrow even £50,000 that would be £1027 a month for a 5 year period, that’s as much as a mortgage for many.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Yeah, it's a lot of money, @joshlovingoutdoors4455. I guess you'd have to put down a large deposit or have something to trade in to keep the payments down.
@svetlovska20 күн бұрын
Yeah… but where is the light switch?
@ianwheeler7903Ай бұрын
I am so glad I built my own campervan. The build quality is not that great for the money on a new one.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @ianwheeler7903. I just think that manufacturers have to use light weight materials rather than say, solid wood to keep the weight down.
@NaturesExpressionsАй бұрын
Subscribed...❤❤ awesome informative video...vanlife better lifestyle choice than buried under bills and debt. It seems none of them were off roads. No solar... nothing on the roof...any wifi type connections? Seems a lot missing, and it is not impossible within price range. Thank you for your documentary
@HermanHitstheRoad27 күн бұрын
Welcome to the channel, @NaturesExpressions. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Things like solar, wifi, sat TV, etc. are normally added at the time of the sale rather than installed as standard. This gives you the joice then.
@kinross24Ай бұрын
I know you don’t like the ‘step’ at the swivelling front chairs but without those steps most will have feet not touching the floor making long sitting there quite uncomfortable with hanging feet/legs.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Oh I get why the steps are there, @kinross24, I just know I'll trip over them and I'm just pointing that out in case other folks feel the same
@johnbarnett4402Ай бұрын
Do Motorhomes have spare wheels
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
I assume that most have spare wheels, John. Ours does. I suppose not all cars have spares so maybe not all motorhomes have spares 🤷♂️
@firstnamelastname266929 күн бұрын
Ducato has them underneath. Not a job for the hard shoulder....
@neildavies619727 күн бұрын
Roller team Zerfiro
@HermanHitstheRoad27 күн бұрын
You like the Zerfiro, @neildavies6197 ?
@galdessa1Ай бұрын
Surely the most important thing about a motor home is the driving, every motor home has cupboards and other amenities..
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Not necessarily, @galdessa1. Some have lots of space and other don't. Folks want to see the possibilities and options
@ZalleyАй бұрын
Van length would have been good to know.
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, @Zalley. I could mention many things about these vehicles but there'd be so much information to reasonably put in a video.
@daveandjanwoolf8078Ай бұрын
I fear that future problems will be related to the electrics. Having recently retired from the garage trade I can testify the more bits added to cars the more problems with the electrics. Many of these resulted in a trip to a specialist at prices that could make your eyes water!
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for the info, @daveandjanwoolf8078
@Chris-td4ydАй бұрын
Nice one Thanks 👍🇬🇧
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks @Chris-td4yd 👍👍
@philipellis7039Ай бұрын
As a Malibu owner you are never going to find one at base price (probably true of other brands as well). Cheapest way to buy one is drive to Germany…
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Why is that, @philipellis7039. I guess there must be a waiting list?
@andrewtucker3070Ай бұрын
With German brands the base price does not include even the basics that anyone would want. It is quite a surprise if an engine is not an optional extra.
@chrisward493522 күн бұрын
I don't know why I'm watching this, I haven't got £59 to burn let alone £59000😂
@HermanHitstheRoad21 күн бұрын
A bit below your budget then, @chrisward4935 👍👍👍🤣
@mk1photography62Ай бұрын
Sadly I can't afford anything over 27k second hand 😢
@ghunt9146Ай бұрын
Just as much pleasure in an older one, plus less tech to go wrong!
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @mk1photography62
@suziq4394Ай бұрын
Believe it or not.. sometimes older models are better built and more reliable 😮
@MrSandalwood4 күн бұрын
Goto 8min 30sec when he opens the cupboard in the bathroom look hard at the fittings really really poor quality
@kevyndignum46363 күн бұрын
But I live in Ontario Canada
@BIGV710Ай бұрын
i would not buy any of them too small as i am 6ft 4in tallplus i have got a proper motorhome that you said is £500000 but i got one and i have my car in the garage at the rear
@HermanHitstheRoadАй бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @BIGV710
@keepitreal154716 күн бұрын
Still way overpriced for what you're getting. Huge profits for the manufacturers & dealers.
@HermanHitstheRoad7 күн бұрын
You may be right, @keepitreal1547 but the base vehicle is the most expensive part and everything has gone up in price
@johndawson880620 күн бұрын
overpriced junk in my opinion! 60/80k to slide a toilet out for a pee? come on and some of them plastic doors like the dethleffs i think it was were pound shop items! and cost cutting on taking the ladder or steps away from the fixed bed and just cutting a hole in to stick your foot in? ive seen better self builds.
@cristinacucconi741111 күн бұрын
Non capisco perché KZbin mi fa vedere camper per gli inglesi 😢 ,siete al rovescio
@HermanHitstheRoad7 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @cristinacucconi7411
@rodcarter4502Ай бұрын
Still way overpriced and they are hoping they can still fleece us 🦧