Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - Review

[@HeroesReforged]

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[@Kimbrell]

Hijacking the pinned comment to point out a small detail that I'm curious if anyone else noticed or questioned. In Far From Home... Beck/Mysterio says Earth 616... though we find out he was blowing smoke and wasn't from another universe... he somehow managed to get the universe name right. In this movie... when America and Strange get to 838... they come across a memory bank/shop thing which was very similar to Beck's B.A.R.F. Coincidence? Or is there some connection there? I know not everything is connected but just an interesting/odd thing.

[@arunanandan7009]

@@eddieterrell5457 I really feel that The Scarlet Witch is the only female mcu character that everybody loves... I mean Elizabeth Olsen was AMAZING as The Scarlet Witch... Her portrayal of the character is iconic as RDJ as Iron Man, Chris Evans as Captain America... She's SOO good with The Scarlet Witch... And I'm ALL IN for her Solo film too at this point ❤

[@arunanandan7009]

@@eddieterrell5457 Yeah... Hope so... But people LOVE an awesome villain... I mean I definitely do... So I'm totally fine with her being either of them or both... Like the comics!

[@BeastSoufiane]

Guilty for seeking out spoilers, but I’m the type of person that can compartmentalize and savor leaks versus in theatre surprises. It’s so hard when you can’t make plans to see the movie until the day or two after, but in a way it lets you pay attention to smaller, juicier details if you’re not too emotionally distracted from the larger reveals. Still guilty tho 😂

[@jimmiecook6964]

Spoilers I still really miss the original fantastic four and that Reid Richards is still my favorite I still feel like he brought the most to the character. So I would love to see him again!

[@erwin7427]

To be honest, I didn't expect they'd let Raimi go that far and it was just so refreshing and fun to watch.

[@DRMD2023]

Same here!

[@garydodd2837]

agreed, i didnt find too dark for me personally but for an MCU movie i was surprised, Wanda was quite terrifying at times though, she has been a villain since the show for me so this was her inevitable journey!

[@aaronroibeard]

Agreed

[@bloodstarkidlander9159]

I loved that they had Xavier reprise his "Just because someone stumbles, loses their way..." line from Days of Future Past.

[@TheShadowboy8]

spoilers: They really reprised him just to kill him off like for the 4th time lol

[@kptmaci4979]

@@TheShadowboy8 first time appereance of a proper x-men mutant in mcu though.

[@LordMalice6d9]

@@kptmaci4979 If only there was a way to incorporate James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender in the mcu to reprise their respective roles. It will never happen though.

[@mazeful6345]

@@LordMalice6d9 they said the same thing about all 3 spidermen. It's possible.

[@oscarnunez7801]

*SPOILERS* That scene where Wanda looks at the camera after she's inside her other self was fucking cool. Also Black Bolt had the best Marvel death by far. Invincible vibes in the Illuminati scene. Great review my guys!

[@elisachavez7089]

I still can’t get over Black Bolts death, the first death and that brutal!? 🤯

[@parsman9914]

Spoilers: Clea and Reed mentioned "incursion". So, that could be a setup for Jonathan Hickman's Time Runs Out/Secret Wars which is one of the best stories ever.

[@Megaproductions302]

You might be right because we also have the venom symbiote in the MCU and Spider-Man becomes Black Spider-Man during secret wars if I’m correct.

[@HeroesReforged]

@@InnerRise The Volume AKA ILM Stagecraft is a 170 degree virtual set surrounded by LED monitors that allow you to project digital backgrounds that allow you to capture the actors on a "set" in-camera instead of using a greenscreen to composite later.

[@preheatedmusic3179]

I’m pretty sure reed talked about incursions as well

[@KoolMB]

they already confirmed Secret Wars is coming so most likely

[@parsman9914]

@@jonhconner1191 What are you babbling about?

[@markkostecki4558]

All the Evil Wanda stuff can simply be explained with "Darkhold corruption". I dont think it spoils or betrays her arc in WandaVision at all. She especially seemed to overcome it by the end. Shes not dead btw no way

[@akasunaS24]

Exactly, I'm pretty sure that most if not all of Wanda's evil doing in comics are because of someone or something manipulating her. She's so broken in comics and is easy to influence someone as mental as Wanda.

[@anthonyabrego9185]

Right! I seen so many reviews of people crying about it ruined her character but it didn't at all, the movie clearly states how the dark hold corrupts the reader and even shows how it changed both Dr stranges

[@salvationsplace]

if you're not correct it will make this movie the most well done mistake in film history. it's a very dangerous move to take a left turn from good momentum (off Wanda vision) as a big Wanda fan, I was disappointed enough that the extreme high quality of the film was not enough to dampen it and I find myself far less interested in Dr Strange as a character and the direction of the multiverse story line as a whole. if Wanda is not redeemed quick... it will stay as a tainted example of story telling

[@gregap8282]

That's so simple, basic. There's a better story in there and people will excuse it. The script was a freaking lazy mess

[@murk4552]

@@gregap8282 well it's not overcomplicated moron. She is a witch, not a sorcerer, evil objects are always sources of power for mages who live in the dark side. So Palaptine not using the dark side of the force wasn't logical to you? This is stupid as shit. What other reason would you speculate for her descent into the macabre? She was on her period? Her 3 time dead robot vibrator husband is giving her "me time" withdrawals?

[@kotabear6556]

Don't know of you noticed. But the thing Christine picked up to kill the damned souls was the same first thing strange picked up to attack Kaecillius. And Kaecillius was like "you don't know how to use that do you?". And strange was a magic noob so he threw it at him. I think it was a great parallel that in universe 838 Christine knew what it was because she and her strange probably tried to be together before he died and he taught her

[@lastudentessa]

I noticed that too. It helps that I rewatched the first Dr. Strange movie before watching M.O.M.

[@kptmaci4979]

immedieately noticed that too, I was curious to see what it would do, was a bit dissapointed it was just a flamethrower, so it was kind of weird that Kaecillius would be afraid of it, but then again, maybe you cant block this magic fire, so he would be vurnerable if Strange knew how to use it :P

[@kotabear6556]

@@kptmaci4979 yeah it can kill damned souls lol I think Kaecillius would have had a bad time. Or at least a new tan

[@loonuhtunes5455]

Thanks to What If, we know that losing Christine (in any ways) is an absolute point in Strange's life and I love that they continue and prove it again in this movie. What If Strange lost her in an accident, earth-838 lost her bc he's dead , 616 lost her bc she's married. It all makes perfect. sense.

[@SpawntheFuries]

BIG SPOILER ALERTS IN THIS COMMENT, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! I was thrilled throughout the entirety of this movie, it was good to see that even after the departure of Scott Derrickson that the movie was able to keep some of the horror elements, but now I'm curious how much further he was originally wanting to go. That said, I'm stoked that the MCU has finally acknowledged that Scarlet Witch is the most powerful character and its not even close. Given that she's not the titular character and it's her first movie, I was pleased with the treatment of America Chavez, especially with the resolution of the conflict. The "you had the power all along," trope can be annoying, but it was handled in a plausible and ultimately satisfying way, knowing that she can't go toe to toe with SW when she's not holding back so she had to win another way. Here's the real spoiler part, and I can't believe this secret was able to kept for the entirety of the production, but Captain Carter was expected, Maria Rambeau as Captain Marvel was expected, Professor X was expected, but my mind was sufficiently blown when not only did they put in Black Bolt with Anson Mount in the role, but then fucking John Krasinski as Mister Fantastic?! I didn't care anymore whether the movie was good or not at that point, I was gonna love it no matter what because I'm a huge fan of not only the Fantastic Four but also the characters and properties surrounding them (most notable the Silver Surfer/Galactus). I'll absolutely be going to see it again, I loved every minute of that experience.

[@DatDudeJakeC]

When Adam references taking comedic actors and placing them in other genres, the first actor that popped into my head was Bill Hader in Barry. HE IS SO GOOD IN THAT SHOW

[@IAmAPhan]

Ryan Reynolds is the prime example of a comedic actor who made that transition into action oriented role and excelling.

[@still2841]

Would Bill Hader suit Mr. Fantastic actually?

[@IAmAPhan]

@@still2841 I like him, but he's a terrible choice!

[@hiddeheikoop]

@@still2841 He would be a great FF-villain. Maybe Puppet Master or even Annihilus.

[@coronbrown9238]

He’s excellent in that show. Can’t wait for episode 3

[@DirtySam0410]

With Vision being back, it does feel kinda weird that he wouldnt show up in Multiverse of madness. And I dont believe Wanda is dead, and I hope she gets to meet Vision in future movies and hopefully finds closure.

[@ComeChillWithCody]

I was a fan of the movie, I definitely want it again as well. I’d disagree on rewatch ability! I would watch this movie a bunch of times in a row but that’s because it’s just a fast paced movie.

[@PhoenixForceTravelAgency]

Same!!

[@movies798]

I would still love to see John Krasinski again as Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic in the main MCU universe. I hope he sign on to appear in multiple movies in the MCU.

[@movies798]

@@AnimeKing-xj2xl Same. I hope it's not the last time we saw him.

[@jacobgrzanowicz2337]

@@AnimeKing-xj2xl They all died fast, but it’s just one version of them all!

[@Jdubayou]

I don't think it's a coincidence at all that right before this movie came out Jon Watts exited Fantastic 4. I think Kraskinski is going to direct and star in it

[@TheMick7823]

I agree. I think he would be and was a great Reed. I absolutely don’t agree with Hector with the diversity issue. The group has been white since their creation, being pissed if they end up all white is ridiculous and uncalled for. Everyone has loved these characters as they are for decades feeling forced to change it because people want something to complain about is nonsense. They have changed it with MBJ as Torch and he was fine at it same as Chris Evan’s was. You don’t need to change original content all the time. We aren’t making a white Black panther or storm or whatever. I don’t agree with only casting to fill a quota in anything man, woman, colour, Cree etc. I think the best person for the job should be hired or cast with no Bias on other attributes they have. If they are all white then cool, mixed race, cool all black cool, just hire the best fit for the job and give the fans an amazing film. All that being said I sure would like if they let Idris be Reed (because variant)so he wasn’t totally wasted with the tiny role as Heimdall 👍🏻.

[@movies798]

@@TheMick7823 I'm black and as much I support diversity, but personally I rather have the Fantastic Four characters all white. The reason because I love these characters so much and changing their skin colors just feels forced. Reed, Susan, Johnny, and Ben had all been white and I believe they should stay that way.

[@ohctascooby2]

In Wandavision her kids were calling her in the end scene. But she has no kids in this reality. Them calling her was not expected. Therefore it was not by her doing. Someone is still manipulating her… likely outside the Darkhold as it started in Westview before she took hold of the Darkhold.

[@Kimbrell]

I really need Marvel to just tone down the TV spots and trailers. Thors trailer? Perfect. Maybe show Gorr in the next one but that's it. They should have never showed Professor X or anyone imo. The hint at Captain Carter in the poster I think was okay but man I wish I was able to be more surprised than I was. Still enjoyed the movie overall.

[@Jumpoable]

Exactly. Marvel marketing ruined it for me. If I had ZERO idea of Prof X's yellow chair I would've needed adult diapers. & I would've enjoyed it.

[@supreme1572]

Kevin Feige's interview at the premier he was saying they showed way too much in the trailers 😂😂😅

[@scottlouis]

Totally agree. I learned my lesson and only watched the first trailer. Actively avoided the tv spots and images. So, most of the reveals really landed. The yellow chair and 90s theme had me in tears. Lol

[@pat7917]

If Feige went so far as to talk about his displeasure with the marketing, then I have a feeling he will probably do something about it for future theatre releases.. hopefully.

[@zengamer21]

I think Wanda should maybe share top billing with Doctor Strange. She had a ton of screen time. The cameos definitely did not take away or steal the show. They were short but sweet. I like the theme of both Wanda and Strange being so incredibly powerful but unable to get what they want. Wanda can't get her kids back. Strange can't get Christine back. All that power is ultimately meaningless and they have to accept that there is nothing they can do. It's also nice that our Strange is the best Strange because he learned to give up control. In a way, Christine saved the universe by teaching him that.

[@pat7917]

I like how both characters are having similar arcs together. Both are experiencing the pain of loss. But they handle that pain in opposite ways. One accepts what they cannot change, while the other cannot.

[@Kizinky]

My issues with the movie are minor, i loved all the points you guys touched on the film making aspects, the themes, the visuals all 10 for me. The story and reasons were meh, but i allow it because we got a sick adventure and the Wanda Terminator Grudge was my favorite

[@mickeymouse7726]

I love that Xavier used his line from X-Men days of future past on doctor strange just because someone stumbles loses their way doesn't mean their lost forever

[@AngshumanBiswas23]

@@jonhconner1191 mutants

[@arunanandan7009]

I LOVEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD this film! Elizabeth Olsen as The Scarlet Witch was absolutely fantastic! Ahhh sooo gooddd! ❤🔥

[@arunanandan7009]

@@_ripVanWinkle_ OHH YOU ARE GOING TO BE REALLLL DISAPPOINTED if you think she's dead 😂😂😂

[@arunanandan7009]

@@_ripVanWinkle_ Earth 616 Wanda aka The Scarlet Witch is getting her own film! Which is not a prequel like Black Widow... So you can get it! ❤

[@wisemoon40]

I loved seeing the two characters that could have taken out Thanos (if he hadn’t had the Infinity Stones) duke it out. I also loved how Captain Carter’s jet pack gave her some of the same tactics and moves as Sam Wilson Cap with his wings. So cool!

[@logandelaharpe6362]

Characters that could of taken out thanos without the stones Iron man Thor Dr Strange Wanda Captain marvel

[@TheFranciscoFm]

@@logandelaharpe6362 Well, Thor and Ironman did fought Thanos without the stones...as a team... with Cap too... And they LOSE

[@redfielduniverse]

@@TheFranciscoFm so true. Point given

[@jespov9548]

I think the cameo of John krasinski was marvels way of announcing the Reed Richards casting in a fun way. Which is why he died asap. A little tease, but a hint of more from him in their movie

[@27poker]

I loved that scene, reminded me of Invincible in the best way possible

[@marjoe32]

The biggest flex of this movie was marvel telling us. Yes we have the cast for fantastic 4 and yes we know how Mr fantastic's power works on film. P.S. we all Knew Kevin sent a message with Blackbolt, he was kooler in 3 minutes than he was in a whole season.

[@Null041]

@@jonhconner1191 that is incorrect sir

[@mpls1982]

My guess is the fantastic 4 gets rescued in Ant Man 3. I think they have been trapped in the negative zone since the 1960s in our reality(616). Pretty sure they worked with Hank Pym in the comics.

[@murk4552]

@@mpls1982 that would be sick as shit, they find all the major Marvel teams in different points in time to aid them im defeating Kang. Strange will be super important going forward. Shang Chi works with Wong now, the Ten Rings belong to a Celestial. With a newly reformed Loki aids them with what he knows now, this next Phase is gonna be hella cool for hardcore comic book Marvel fans. Secret Wars will likely be the Endgame level event for Phases 4 and 5. Once we get Midnight Sons, F4 and X-Men, whew..the ride we are gonna be on since Endgame.

[@charzar81]

Your guys' take is so much like mine. I was elated to have this movie subvert my story expectations! Raimi was awesome sauce on yet ANOTHER delicious MCU empanda!

[@hamhockbeans]

Brought his own flavor.

[@metallicnole4514]

It was surprising that feige let raimi off the leash as much has he did

[@thejediofuspartii538]

Seeing this movie honestly made me have even more faith that Marvel and Feige will definitely have the balls to announce and release a Ghost Rider movie, preferably one with Robbie Reyes as the lead. After the horrific and satanic scenes that were shown in the movie, you cannot tell me that Marvel will never make an MCU Ghost Rider reboot movie. Speaking of Robbie, so if the Darkhold was destroyed in EVERY universe, what would that mean for the ending of Agents of SHIELD S4 where we last saw Robbie carrying the Darkhold to another place? Regardless of whether or not AOS was set in the MCU or in a different universe, I have a feeling that we might eventually see this loose end for the character tied up due to how the book he was last seen carrying was destroyed.

[@metallicnole4514]

Would rather see Johnny blaze

[@thejediofuspartii538]

@@metallicnole4514 Would rather want the MCU to give us a Latino-led movie than another movie with a white dude as the lead. Thanks. 🤷‍♂

[@metallicnole4514]

@@thejediofuspartii538 Race has nothing to do with it. I'd rather see johnny blaze. There are plenty of latino characters they can explore and make their own without being compared to another character. Just like how shang chi was an obscure character that no one heard about, yet it now a recognizable name.

[@thejediofuspartii538]

@@metallicnole4514 "Race has nothing to do with it." Oh, you're one of THOSE people. 😒 You are aware of that Johnny Blaze already had TWO movies of his own, both of which were trash, right? Which is why it is unlikely Marvel will ever do another Ghost Rider project on Johnny Blaze and that they would rather do it on someone else. And you are also aware that the MCU has been long been overdue for a Latino-led movie after we had movies like Black Panther and Shang-Chi which you brought up to make your point? Are you even Latino? If you're not, then don't ask me your opinion that race and representation don't matter like a pretentious edgelord. Also, I could already see a Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider movie being infinitely better than those two goddawful Johnny Blaze movies.

[@metallicnole4514]

@@thejediofuspartii538 It's funny to see you triggered over someone merely saying they want to see johnny blaze over that AoS robbie reyes lol

[@briannavarro5328]

Watched this last night with my friends, and HOLY SHIT! This movies was great, jaw dropping and made me shocked as all hell in some moments.

[@ishraqtalukder4518]

Heads up of a major spoiler for anyone didn’t see the film, but for only the ones that have already seen the film…….. So cool for fan service for John kransinski play mr fantastic is the blessing fan service ever made. Just hoping he becomes the mcu’s mr fantastic for the future solo fantastic four film. And I can’t get over how cool his suit really is in the most futuristic style.

[@kptmaci4979]

Once I saw him I jumped in my seat, but also accepted at the same time, that he might not be the Richards of Earth 616. They probably will want some younger people to play F4, but Im also hoping Im wrong and that this is somehow confirmation of him being official Reed Richards (but honestly, even though I really hope he is and we will get a bit older mr Fantastic - I think he was one and done unfortunately, just to please fans).

[@BaithNa]

Reed in the comics is kind of cold and heartless so I think Krasinski could both show his range and bring some heart to the character if he was the MCU Reed Richards.

[@yeasirkhan5786]

I really appreciate their efforts to change things, trying something new. Less cheesy and more darker. I will watch it again. My favorite scene was wanda using the reflections.

[@pat7917]

I got Samara vibes from ‘The Ring’ when she started crawling out of that gong. Jesus that movie traumatized me as a kid lol.. great horror reference in my opinion.

[@TheSirUno]

I don't remember ever sitting as still as I did throughout this movie; I'm normally very fidgety in my seat. Basically, I was absolutely ENTHRALLED by this one. Yummy MCU candy. More, please. Seeing Clea at the end made me giddy. I've always been in the same boat as Augustin with respect to Raimi's SM1 & SM2 - nice to hear someone else say it aloud for once. Anyway...off I go. ;) Heros Reforged: "Something, something twitter continuity drama something." Me: "No clue what anyone is talking about and I love it. First I've heard of this, and boy did I enjoy myself."

[@geordieb9644]

I agree with Hectors initial thoughts. Really fun time but lacking the substance and impact that the great MCU movies have.

[@toddjordan2198]

100% agree. Raimi focused so much on spectacle and trying to put his stamp on the movie that any real connection to basic humanity was sloppily thrown in at the last minute as a second thought. Instead of emotional revelation and depthful evolution, we get cheesy FX and Christine Palmer screaming "GO BACK TO HELL!" Ugh.

[@metallicnole4514]

I’m ok with a little more style over substance here because I love he style and had such a blast. I would watch this over the Batman.

[@thejediofuspartii538]

@@metallicnole4514 Robbie Reyes >>>>>>>>>> Johnny Blaze.

[@hideaway9686]

I agree too

[@FreshmakerLP]

Spoilers: As one of the 5 people who watched Inhumans, my jaw absolutely hit the floor when I saw Blackbolt. I really hope they get to work with the Inhumans actors again because I there were elements of that show that I enjoyed. Seeing this also made me wish more than anything that The Runaways and Cloak & Dagger could get a mention at some point in the future, because I think those 2 shows were criminally underrated. I think The Runaways are a perfect fit if they ever wanted to start building up a street-level West Coast team.

[@DinerLingo]

I've never watched the show, but I really appreciate that Marvel isn't recasting who it brings to the big screen. I think it shows that even if the shows themselves flopped or aren't canon, Marvel recognizes their casting was on point. We've had Clark Gregg, Hayley Atwell, Charlie Cox, Jaime Alexander, Vincent D'Onofrio, Cobie Smulders & now Anson Mount (& others). It's hard to see other actors in any of those roles.

[@cklambo]

Agree with the inhumans thing. Except do not bring back the actress who played crystal she was awful.

[@Noxolsaf]

Eyy compadre. Im the 6six person who watch Inhumans

[@jerrancebowman965]

@@Noxolsaf I've watched and have the DVD🤓

[@loganbigmo]

@@DinerLingo I mean, Clark Gregg, Hayley Atwell, Jaimie Alexnader & Cobie Smulders don't really count since they were cast by Marvel Studios & appeared in those projects first, and reprised their role for Marvel TV later. Whereas James D'Arcy, Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofriot & Anson Mount were not cast by Marvel Studios yet reprised their role in Marvel Studios productions

[@Ezekku]

When me and my friend got out of the movie we had like, mixed feelings. We liked it but was a little 'weird'. Today we talked about it, and the more we talked the more we realized that we really liked it. That scene where Wanda used the reflections on the water to attack people was AMAZING. Elizabeth Olsen was great the entire movie. Same with Xochitl, America is a character that I don't really know a lot. I knew her powers, and that everything is star-shaped (that in the movie look really good), but I really really liked the character.

[@joshuafox1636]

Raimi leaning into the whole 'Give them happiness, but then take it away' motivation, but towards the audience and the cameos was wonderful.

[@muhammadmunaji2835]

Oh man I love John Krasinski as Reed Richards.

[@ryrydatguy]

I appreciated that Captain Carter’s death was the same as Zombie Cap’s death in What If. 😋

[@illexpreshun]

Anyone notice the Blackbolt killing Dr. Strange scene was a nod/reference to Death of X circa Blackbolt & Cyclops.

[@lukejohnston3117]

Allow me to give you my favorite moments of the film. Spoilers, obviously. 1. The brief, but memorable, sequence where Strange and America hurtle through realities before stopping at Earth-838. I want to see a hero from that paint reality now. 2. The reveal of the Illuminati (or Illuminati confirmed). Makes me wonder if Marvel Studios will take a stab at the Inhumans soon (Marvel Television handled the ill-fated TV series). 3. Doctor Strange vs. Sinister Strange. Also known as, the fight where they weaponize musical notes.

[@garydodd2837]

i agree with the cool horror, the part when Wanda's hand goes through the wall to grab America Chavez from behind and then she comes through the wall was so dope! Very horror, loved it!!

[@josefcayos4026]

the way she came out that shield is very reminiscent of the ring lol

[@TerrelLism]

When that 90s theme hit I almost cried!!! There were so many gasp in my theater. I love when the theater is active for these types of films.

[@TerrelLism]

I love when you guys talk cgi and really break it down. I'm starting to see some hardcore fans and critical critics who bash cgi in all of cbm nowadays and I ask myself: how can superpower beings be shown without cgi? Lots of cgi never bothered me. But I do hope the MCU does do more on location because I liked that about Eternals.

[@elisachavez7089]

I LOVE Wanda, Wandavision made me obsessed and I felt her every emotion. I love the theory of her being happy because I was also waiting for white vision to appear but I hope she gets a movie or season 2 🙏🏽 I really love the magic side of marvel, The first Dr Strange started the love for me 😍 Wanda and Strange are awesome!!

[@thewongplayer6550]

That scene in the end where Wong and America teleport to be shown at karmatagsh after Wanda decide to be good and then opens another portal to actual dr strange but this time Wong and America is shown to be in the mountains.. like why would they teleport to karmatagsh only to teleport back to the snowy mountains? Anyone else noticed this?

[@maceofbass9295]

I grew up on Raimi's early movies and projects, and I genuinely loved the camp that he brought to the table. This movie definitely won't be for every MCU fan, but at this point I think Marvel needs to explore those spaces.

[@1c3sly13]

They could've added 5 minutes to the Scarlet w/ Illuminati stuff. And I love Wanda more now. This is the first Marvel movie that made me jump in my seat - and multiple times. The 1st end credit gave me chills. I love her! I loved it.

[@user-zx9sy5yi3w]

I’ve been thinking of a layout in my head for how the fight would have drawn out on screen. If I can write, than I would make a fanfic about it. XD

[@hiddeheikoop]

Wanda was terrifying in this movie and such a great development from Endgame to WandaVision to now. Wonder where we will see her and White Vision next.

[@Jaksi-a]

Why do they need America America Chavez to travel the multiverse, when Ned can use a slingring to open portals do different universes?

[@ZaberFangAT]

Adam from pReviewed had an interesting take about the structure of this one - it wasn't so much a standalone movie as two hours of Marvel content. Which is fine, but it's probably the MCU movie with the most required prewatching. In that I feel like I got a lot more out of it having watched Wandavision than people who haven't might have done.

[@scottsummers4234]

My main issue with the movie was Wanda's storyline. It felt like her character development in Wandavision was kinda ignored a bit. I also think that the movie was so jampacked that it needed some time to breathe. That Illuminati fight should have been longer. Defeating Reed and Prof. X should not be that easy 😫. America Chavez' backstory could be a bit longer too. But Olsen easily steals the spotlight. Incredible performance!

[@alexmaverick6647]

Wanda enslaved a whole town of people so she could play make believe with her dead boyfriend. She’s a villain.

[@kptmaci4979]

I think Wandavision was more than embraced 200%. Many references to tv show, with dark fingers of people holding Darkhold + Wanda transferring her obsession with ressurecting her dead family from her husband, which she accepted was dead - to her imaginary children. I think it was more than realistic + she was clearly manipulated by power the Darkhold promised her. I loved how quickly she became agressive to get what she wanted.

[@aaronbarr7935]

Somewhere, in a universe not our own, Krasinski is cast as Reed &, at this very moment, Jenna Fischer is in the gym getting jacked to play Sue. Also, I think we can all agree, Zombie Dr, Doom is the stuff of nightmares, but has a real “hey Marvel, please take all of our money so we can see a live-action Zombie Dr. Doom.” vibe.

[@nateDaOG44]

The theatre went bananas when they heard the voice of Charles. Bloody awesome movie, watching it again 💯💙

[@cerdas1814]

There is a Moon Knight comic (I think it is the Scarlett redemption part two) that Wanda is looking for, not redemption, but salvation. Wanda and Marc were linked telepathically and he is trying to find her to help save her. There was something very angelic with a lurking demonic feeling to that issue and I think that would be really cool if they tried to translate that to the screen for Wanda.

[@This-is-the-way786]

That would be so cool!

[@landkevin28]

Wasn't expecting this level of horror from an MCU film but Raimi would be the perfect person to start that tradition, especially with multiversal characters

[@cruzcontrol78]

Fantastic 4 being all white wouldn’t bother me, of course I would love more Latino representation but I don’t want them to focus on just race. Just get us the best actors.

[@KirbyLeeFortenberry]

Was a little disappointed that was brought up in this review. Exactly Kevin just hire the best actors for the role. Idk an actor that could do better than Tom Hiddleston as Loki or Christ Hemsworth as Thor, or Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther. Michael B. Jordan did a way better job as Killmonger than Johnny Storm. Whoever the FF is going to be I believe Marvel will choose the best 4 actors for the role.

[@Bbouy1HD]

@@KirbyLeeFortenberry Yeah its a bit sus from these guys ngl. Borderline on the lines of people complaining about other Marvel castings cause of race or gender. discrimination

[@kotabear6556]

Honestly just by the movie showing her in the apply field and immediately outing herself as the villain was enough. We didn't need a 20 minute spiel on how she got to that point. The end of wanda vision was enough. She was messing with dark magic. And by the time she breaks the ilusion of the apple farm and you see her darkened fingers that's all the evidence you needed.

[@513hook513]

Alot of people didn't watch Wanda vision

[@pat7917]

@@513hook513 Very true. If anything could hurt the reception of this movie - it will probably be the amount of prerequisite material that is recommended to enhance the movie.

[@JohnPMcCoy]

I really enjoyed MoM, but man was it fast-paced. For me, the pacing made it feel more like a cinematic comic book than an MCU installment. I think allowing more time to let the film breathe a bit would have helped. Literally from the first 10 seconds till the ending it’s non-stop action and tension. Raimi said his first cut was much longer (by about 35 minutes) so I wonder how much of that could have changed the pacing. I’m torn on the usage of cameos. I loved seeing them on the screen but was hoping for them to be featured longer than they were. This almost feels more like a setup film than this grandiose climax that some were expecting since it follows Wandavision, Loki, and No Way Home. But I give Marvel props for trying something different. Between this and Moon Knight, Marvel Studios is starting to take some risks and I love that.

[@deanmeanmachine85]

Apparently the first cut Raimi had was 2 hours and 40 minutes. I feel like the MCU is at a point where 2.5 hours I'd a standard. I wonder why they had him cut it back??

[@LelomsSunshine]

I keep remembering how Feige said Wanda is also a big part phase four, so Hector's pitch could work over a number of movies.

[@visualespe]

I hope to see the Scarlet Witch next in her solo movie or in a Children's Crusade series reuniting with her children.

[@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr]

Bold of you to assume there will be solo scarlet witch movie(s).

[@TheReySkywalker]

@@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr it’s pretty much already in the pipeline. She’s their most popular female character.

[@arunanandan7009]

@@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr Its almost confirmed! She is getting her film! As she should! 😊❤

[@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr]

@@TheReySkywalker it's not confirmed. That 7 film contract was a rumour started by a twitter account & everyone took it seriously. It could still happo ofc (certainly not 7 films😂). I bet they're waiting to see how much DS2 earns at the BO. Can see 1 more movie with her tho (where he brings back the mutants as opportunity wasted in this movie). Anyways not too many ways to go for her after her full blown villain arc.

[@Eren.D.Yeagerrrrr]

@@arunanandan7009 i'm pretty sure that's not how it works. But let's see.

[@Lantern7100]

I didn’t think Krasinski could do something like this until I watched A Quiet Place and Jack Ryan. I would love for him to do it, he deserves the chance.

[@redozmasoma]

man I'm kinda pissed about this video because this popped up 12MN last night on my feed I played a few minutes of it, paused it, made some RAMEN refreshed the page and it went to PRIVATE! couldn't watch it then... lmao I'm watching it now for lunch... good work as always guys

[@astigma]

Saw this yesterday afternoon in 3D at my local theatre and I love it! :D

[@hiddeheikoop]

I think this one is in my Top 5 of the MCU now. I'm so glad it was trimmed to a shorter runtime. I loved No Way Home, but it's time to get back to a somewhat normal runtime and it's better for rewatching or marathoning. I love that you can go from Eternals to Far From Home to No Way Home to Hawkeye to Moon Knight and then this all on Disney+. It's like going through a big pile of comics.

[@raecakes079]

Honestly, I was pretty disappointed in the movie! I feel like it was advertised as waaay higher stakes than it ended up being. It also felt like a filler episode of an MCU movie. I think it also didn't help that I was in a bad theater, they only reacted to you know who being you know what but none of the other reveals made any difference :(

[@Jumpoable]

Yep. It felt like a filler instead of thriller. As it's own fun horror romp & action flick, it's sort of a satisfying mess, but to grow the ongoing narrative within the MCU (& for the WandaVision storyline) it's like HUH? Just feels like a badly written comic book movie. I LOVE Strange & Wanda but I wasn't even emotionally drawn in. Definitely needed more quiet moments, like 10-15 more minutes. There was no soul. & magic definitely needs SOUL.

[@arrgggod4656]

I agree. It was very underwhelming! I read the plot leak and it's exactly what I saw in the movie but I thought it's still gonna be huge. They lack on the "multiverse" aspect. They literally only went to two universe and that's it. I thought it was like Loki where shit is about to happen because the multiverse is breaking. But no, they focused on Wanda's grief. They also didn't explain why she's not into Vision suddenly. She only had one line about him and that's it they didn't bring up Vision anymore.

[@GloryCarrier365]

Go to a different theater and just enjoy it with out all these expectations… you’ll have a better time for sure 🍿

[@GloryCarrier365]

@@arrgggod4656 avengers have spoiled you guys… just enjoy the film for what it is.. it’s a fun film

[@me_sad]

@@arrgggod4656 maybe you had too high expectations? I walked in just wanting a sequel of Wanda and Strange and I got it lol. The big stuff can come for avengers secret wars

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

Mark 53:51. As someone that grew up accepting, "Just Say No!", as is was meant to be taken, just hearing some Millennial youngster using, "gateway drug", in a positive context, is such an alien concept! 😕

[@helinituhhh]

You know what I would really find awesome, is if in the subsequent movies/projects for Doctor Strange they hire yet another horror director to do it - keep the tradition of horror-genre directors doing their own take on a Doctor Strange story. Also it's wishful thinking on my part, wanting to see Benedict do a straight-up horror movie someday so maybe working w multiple directors might finally lead to it lol

[@charlietango261]

I love the idea of Wanda coming back with Magneto in a Brotherhood situation. that sets up a return of White vision and the "no more mutants" line she wants to say so badly.

[@ChiefUso]

Lol when Auggie said zombie Dr Doom I was like “what movie did he see?!” 😂😂

[@Jaycee52548]

Interesting takes on John Krasinski! I don’t personally agree, I found a profound amount of leadership coming from him. Also, he has a similar gravitas in Jack Ryan where he does come off as very smart in my opinion as well! I highly recommend it, especially if you are interested in seeing if he can hold as a leading man! Edit: I would also say, I 100% agree that Oscar Isaac would be a fantastic Reed! :) :) :)

[@Jdubayou]

@MS Yeah I love these guys and think they are the best reactors and reviewers for comic book films/shows but they were definitely hating a bit.

[@mickeymouse7726]

I don't have a problem with the Fantastic Four being white since that's what they are white in the comics

[@hiddeheikoop]

It was a rollercoaster of a movie and such a great reveal that was not at all spoiled (except a certain character that was literally put in a trailer in the last week).

[@dagreenflamingo105]

I’d have to see it again for my ranking of mcu movies but it’s a solid 8 for me, I think my high expectations and rumors of other cameos might’ve let me down a bit but it was awesome 8/10

[@BakesKamuari]

Been waiting for this spoiler review finally bc I’ve been refreshing for all the KZbinrs I watch for rewords and reactions and they been so dry only the non spoiler but I watched it and ugh I can’t wait watching while im at work gonna bell the time go by

[@D_Ella1269]

I understand where you're coming from when discussing someone who likes to know what happens in advance of watching a movie (me), but, it's 100% true that it's not going to lessen\diminish my experience. I still end up being surprised, jolted, scared, etc. where I'm supposed to be. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Love your review guys; you'll get to 100k in no time. ✊🏾

[@27poker]

My kid is 10, not really into MCU but a fan of gruesome stuff like zombies and horror and during the 3rd act he turned to me and said: "this is good", Raimi sensibility does it again

[@GrimGearheart]

Also, Xavier was CLEARLY the Xavier from the animated series. The music when he appears is the cartoon theme, and he has the giant yellow wheelchair.

[@hiccuphufflepuff176]

I went into this mostly worried about where it would leave Wanda's character at the end, whether she would be a straight up "evil" character going forward, maybe the next Avengers villain. Naturally, I was relieved to see her come to her senses and do something helpful in the end, and I liked that she had no interest in "ruling" when she figured out what the Wundagore temple was for. What I found most disappointing was how blunt and extreme her antagonistic turn was. I thought she would maybe learn about America from Strange and gradually hatch a plan to betray them while starting as an ally, but she just straight up was the mustache-twirling villain from the start, and it was revealed almost immediately. It just didn't make sense how readily and brutally she started murdering people only to later claim to be a person who "would never hurt anyone." This character with these motives would not behave this way. It just feels like she was stupidly written. It seems the Dark Hold doesn't turn you evil, it just lowers your IQ.

[@derrickwalk2219]

CORRECTION: Clea is Dormammu's NIECE not his daughter. Her mother, Umar (who is a bad ass sorceress and also another long running Dr Strange foe), is Dormammu's sister.

[@ericwoodward1833]

For the 616… are we forgetting Erik Selvig in Thor: The Dark World?

[@jobanbrahmabargoyary6812]

Why is it an issue if the F4 is the same ethnicity? Come on. The MCU is doing more and more representation in many directions. It doesn't have to sweep each and every project. I'd like F4 to remain as it was originally intended to be.

[@Jaksi-a]

Will she be in the Agatha series? I hear she signed a new contract with marvel, maybe Agatha can help Wanda and be that mentor role as she was in the comics as far as I know.

[@AbrahamArthemius]

Btw, during one of those multiverse jumps, there was actually one where we got shown with the heads of the Living Tribunal

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

Mark 45:55. Oh yeah! Picard & Xavier, co-exist. Now so does, Reed & Jim! 🤯

[@_JohnC_]

I don't think Wanda was done dirty but there definitely needed to be something at the beginning to hint more at how much the darkhold was corrupting her over that time jump. Without that her motivation just doesn't hit as much as it should have. This movie wasn't for me, I didn't hate it but I also didn't love it as a whole and I definitely didn't like the B plot with Christine...it just felt shoved in imo and that's probably because of the massive time since the last Dr. Strange movie. It solidified that I REALLY don't like Rami's camp and cheese outside of actual horror movies/shows though I did love how much he pushed the pg-13 rating.

[@angelicoargosino7544]

I want a stand-alone Scarlet Witch film on alternate reality, focusing on his father Magneto, sibling Quicksilver, sister Polaris, and her twin children .. like a Family centric mayhem film, and she will say ‘No More Mutants’ plus White Vision to the rescue…

[@adelseifeddine1758]

While I liked the movie, I didn't love it. Honestly, because it under minds the great performance of Elizabeth Olsen in Wandavision. Although she was sassy and brutal in this one (which I am up for it), it feels like the creators of this movie did NOT watch Wandavision, and I really felt that despite her great performance here, Elizabeth Olsen is doing another character completely different from that incredible one from the previous show, which was quite unfortunate to me. Plus, I really feel like this movie could've benefited from addition 30-40 minutes in order to further introduce America Chavez, her past and present. Because at the end of the day, we can't just have a tv show as an introduction or an origin story for every new character in the MCU. It'll be too crowded and messy. I also believe this movie did NOT stick the build up from Wandavision, Loki and NWH. This story felt quite disconnected from the others. I mean Kevin Feige himself said the Wandavision-NWH-MoM will be connected. I am sorry but I did NOT see any connection between these 3 "acts". That was the main reason I did NOT like the movie as much as I hoped before.

[@fernandoo5865]

Couldn’t have said it any better 👏🏻

[@Destinedhellfire]

Sam Raimi said he didn't watch Wandavision and was just getting the spark notes of it

[@xTehOwn]

That's why it is important to understand that reading and using the Darkhold changed her so much. And to me it was already showed in the endcredit scene of WandaVision

[@nootnewt9323]

I’ve noticed this a lot in marvel movies and maybe because they always have different directors and writers for each movie handling the characters. And sometimes the change is a welcome one like Taika Waititi changing Thor’s character but other times it becomes like this when it’s just like “this character is inconsistent in how they behave and it’s weird.” It felt like Wanda’s whole story in WandaVision was about healing and coming to terms with trauma, but now she’s back on her bullshit. Not criticizing Olsen’s performance bc she really was terrifying but I’m just like wondering what her arc is.

[@stefofthehill]

Dr. Strange has reluctant dad energy. “Where did these youths come from and why are they eating all my food?”

[@pheonix6908]

The interesting part about this movie is that the director himself told the press yesterday that this was not the movie that was made in the first cut that was 2 hrs 40 min long without the reshoots. He himself haven't seen the final cut before the premiere and said he was shocked that how a film can become shorter after reshoots which says they cut a lot from the movie

[@codekhalil6437]

The movie was even better the second time around. You understand the "why" more and appreciate the directing choices. And what amazing directing choices there were! Raimi gave us something refreshing in a world where the reins are pretty tight on directors. His almost "campy" style was the real star of the movie

[@alexpirvu5062]

I finished the 3D version just a couple of hours ago, and your reactions came up when I got home .. the timing :D. I love it, this is the new standard for me, no1 MCU movie, and this is why: I think with each film, MCU movies got more and more substance into it - not to mention how I enjoyed MK focused on Egypt, with all the culture, and actors and music involved locally (btw, how awesome is the music in some key moments in Strange?) - what was I saying.. yeah, balance.. great develompment on characters, not all heroish, not all pure evil / I enjoy the collateral damage as much as they can picture it, because normal ppl suffer great in MCU / I think I could easily follow the plot, with all the craziness that happened, yeah, they did a great job with that / CGI has nothing in the face of real make-up :)) / the horror was the cherry on top, this is not Cinderella, this sets up for the real potential of "mystical" MCU.. lost the rest of my thoughs, was really amazing.. PS: thx for the info on Charlize's character - I love her, always thought she can fit in as a MCU character PS PS :D: the nitpicking doesn't come from fans, it's the new disease from this century, ppl who think they are allowed everything, who complain every time for the food, internet connection, flight delay, traffic .. instead of being greatfull for all the nice things we have now, that not just 50 years ago weren't even invented or whatever .. maybe watch some 70's, 80's movies, than they will appreciate 2022 .. Appologies for all that rambling Cheers!

[@photokunstler]

Black Bolt appearance was a great way to make me not hate the InHumans… He’s got great chops as an actor and I’m so glad they gave him another try + the costume was soooooooooooo much better.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

Mark 39:00. Whoa! I knew it was the same actor that previously played, "Black Bolt", but I didn't know that he was doing a, "Star Trek", project! I knew that, "Lady Sif" actress, Jamie Alexander, is the new, "Number One", but now this! 🖖 The "Star Trek Universe", by the way, exists within the, "Tommy Westphall Universe", along with the, "Arrowverse" & "DCEU", and the, "MCU"! So that's two characters each, for her and him. 🤯

[@AuthorBTB]

From a Latino, it doesn’t matter if they are white or not.

[@DinerLingo]

The repeated use of extras in shots is a pretty standard Raimi trope. It's done in the Spider-Man movies, Darkman & others of his as well & is as intentional as his POV camera work. I think it's a callback to the Roger Corman days of B-sci fi & horror.

[@AllenCruz]

My first time disagreeing with you guys. I think this film undoes the redemption arc of Wanda we were set up for in WandaVision. Not enough was done to burn the candle to make be believe Wanda was becoming a murderous evil person with the darkhold. Continuity matters to me because it’s what separates the MCU from other film franchises. Not because I’m not having any fun…

[@LonewolfOfSD]

Rainn Wilson as Dr. Doom! lol I like how this movie shows that Wanda either pulled something from the Multiverse to create her kids in WandaVision... or maybe she had been dreaming of them for some time before those events happened. I was sad to see her story took the turn here, but it took her "kids" being scared of her to shake her from the mindset and then free the entire Multiverse of a certain evil. Maybe the next show for Wanda would be a therapy arc with Agatha.

[@brandonmiracle9810]

Instead of a Brotherhood/Magneto arc, I'd love to see her redemption take place in the context of a Children's Crusade/Secret Wars arc. She gets hooked up with Doctor Doom for a while, maybe while she's doing some soul searching in Eastern Europe (Sokovia -> Latveria). Seeking redemption, seeking a better way to find her kids among the incursions that are happening. Doom is trying to use her power to his own ends, if not flat out steal it from her in her vulnerable moment post-MoM. She ends up being the one to put a stop to him. Etc.

[@lovinlorne]

I would love to watch it again with a crowd. There might have been 50 people tops in our theater, but the ones who were there did their best. Claps, whistles and cheers all around.

[@kptmaci4979]

@Heroes Reforged for detail -> if you watch Xavier scene again in slo-mo some day (it is on yt in low quality) you can see that Wanda not only snaps his neck in his mind, she also rips his head and jaw off which you can see in one frame. She also, which many people miss in their descriptions of Illuminati death scenes not only spaghetties Mr Fantastic, but also pops up his head at the very end xd And here I thought Black Bolt death is most gruesome (which I still think probably is, as well as most disturbing one due to silence and slow realisation in this scene).

[@Noxolsaf]

Ill be fine with John as Mr. Fantastic. His role in 13 hours and Jack ryan gives me hope

[@ThePatxiao]

Yeah one moment that probably got all the Marvel comic fans excited was when Reed and Clea said incursion which proved they were going to adapt the Secret Wars, the 2015 one not the original one. In one line that fit the story but hinted at more so it didn't seem out of place.

[@Prowler99]

Overall very good movie, great time watching it. The downside of this for me is that I would have like for Strange to be a little more challenged, like by a death of someone he cares about, like Christine or Wong, or with him being completely defeated by Wanda, which he never is in the movie.

[@LeonardoFoo123]

As always, was eagerly anticapting your video after watching the movie. Always a joy to hear from Adam, Hector and Agustin. Let's go for the 100k guys!