HIGH on GOD. SHOCKING LINK between Stoned Greek Witches, Christianity, Early Civilization & Shrooms.

Best-selling Author, Brian C. Muraresku, (The Immortality Key) explores if Jesus might actually be the Greek God Dionysus.
He explains how ancient Greeks believed that experiencing your death "before you die" actually provides you the chance for immortality.
We go deep and learn about links between early Christianity and Ancient Greek mystical practices, including altered states as a way to be in touch with the spiritual realm, the true origins of Catholicism’s body and blood of Christ, and the pivotal role Greek witches played in shaping early Christianity.
Brian also breaks down:
- How the wine used today in church differs from the psychedelic-infused wine of Ancient Greece
- More than metaphor: What it actually means to ingest the body and blood of Christ
- Sorcery vs Scripture
- Lay down and die: "Incubation" as a path to enlightenment
- The dangers of psychedelic use without prep work and appropriate processing
- Why he chooses not to use psychedelics himself
Join us as we explore these questions, backed by compelling historical evidence and expert insights that will challenge everything you thought you knew about religious history and Western Civilization as we understand it.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
5:44 - Brian's Personal Religious Background
10:57 - Peter Kingsley's Influence
13:49 - Ancient Greek Mysteries Overview
19:37 - The Eleusinian Mysteries Explained
27:40 - Incubation Technique
43:17 - Eucharist Discussion
50:15 - Dionysus and the Eucharist
54:03 - Ancient Medicinal Wine
57:54 - Symbolism of the Eucharist Wafer
1:00:05 - Exploring Reality
1:06:00 - Jesus, Blood, and Wine Connection
1:11:38 - Hardwiring for Religious Experiences
1:15:30 - Mythology and Rituals
1:19:20 - Psychedelic Experiences
1:22:10 - Concept of Ego Death
1:31:00 - The Concept of Resurrection
1:32:40 - Consciousness
1:34:00 - Akashic Records Explanation
1:38:45 - Role of Women
1:43:12 - Brian's Personal Outlook on Psychedelics
1:46:25 - Cultural Psychedelic Resurgence
1:47:40 - Conclusion
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[@marisamartinezolivera]

As a Catholic raised as Brian by intellectual Jesuists (who encourage you to think, to ask yourselves, to put all in crisis in order to reach the truth, to be curious), being English only my third language, I can’t even articulate how much I’ve enjoyed this episode that resonates so much in me. How hearing him, a secular, talk so well about the Catholic so difficult to understand mistery of transubstantiation coming from the ancient Greek (so pagane for that young visionary Jew that Jesus was) ritual of Dyonisos. A ritual introduced by paleochristians that allows you to experience divinity in yourself and be attached to something way bigger than you and your mortality..O-M-G! THANK YOU!!

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Marisa, Catholic Christianity is a supernatural experience. The pagan and drug experiences are in the carnal body, and can be deceptive and private, not universal. Father Robert Spitzer, S.J. is a better teacher than this author, if you want to study contemporary explanations of who G_d is.

[@sophomorov]

Fr. Robert Spitzer S.J. and Jimmy Akin would for sure have something to say about this topic.

[@ElderEDChamp-gb5wc]

Well done on your most excellent comments

[@marisamartinezolivera]

@@Charity-vm4bt Read Spitzer’s New Proofs for the Existence of God. If you like Quantum Physics, String Theory, Cosmology, read it. I fear that you misunderstood me. I was fascinated by the dive in antropology about this MBB guest. Nice weekend!

[@craftyape5423]

It's such a gift of modern technology that I can sit at home and watch something this comprehensive and fascinating on my phone.

[@MayimBialik]

🤯🥹

[@jamiersher5131]

After hearing Mayim's interest the Eucharist, must mention my youngest son prepping for First Holy Communion last year. In the litany of questions and after practicing with unconsacrated host, ask "why can't Jesus have more flavor?" That's what it's like preparing to receive Communion the first time. You're welcome Mayim! Lol

[@charliijean]

That is an awesome memory. Your son is right though. Jesus does need more flavor, you would think they could put at least a little vanilla in the wafers. Us protestants have the same issue. Anyway, congrats to your son for choosing faith in Jesus. You are obviously a good and loving parent. God bless you.

[@maryannheinsman739]

I find this discussion extremely fascinating. I was raised in Protestant Christianity, gravitated toward Fundamentalist Christianity as a young adult, and become disillusioned about the Christian religion over the last 20 years. I am also a retired medical laboratory professional turned Christian seminary student studying theology and social justice. I find the intersection of early Christian thought, Greek philosophy, and Mediterranean culture to be incredibly fascinating. Throwing in psychedelics and neuroscience is blowing my mind! I also appreciate Johnathan’s groundedness to pull us back to contemporary religious practices. Can’t wait to read Brian’s book!

[@BigBunnyLove]

I spent many years with psychedelics and today there is an obsession with them for sure. Our culture is broken and false and there is a hunger for authentic experience. But for myself, I set all those aside to face reality as it appeared. Ordinary mind/life is the way. That sounds cryptic. It kind of comes on you suddenly, like a flash of light. Your search ends. The psychedelics put on quite a light show. One can find supreme peace facing their death and even smile by fully embracing their life. We seek what we already have. Life is short and beautiful and ugly all at once. Treasure it and you can make a home for joy.

[@sonjasize]

I feel this transition too. I think it was the aid of psychedelics that helped me dig deep enough to stop search. The therapeutic use of them (in part) led me to a deeper presence in myself and in that presence psychedelics serve less purpose. Being present in the material is as you say ‘the way’.

[@jgarciajr82]

I love this comment. I see it the same as well but a little differently. I see it as some people growing up. Trauma is the biggest phenomenon right now and we are dealing with it as a society. Some people are dealing with it with psychedelics and I believe psychedelics are tied to the spiritual. I've done some psychedelics before and you're right, it takes you into the depth, but eventually you have to stop it and integrate it into your normal life. I think about it like meditation. When you meditate on a mat you learn about the void and what arises. But a great meditator can take the meditation off the mat and into real life. I believe this is all called. Capacity. Capacity is another way of saying we can switch between multiple states but integrate those states into traits. Development. Enlightenment looks like growing up and growing up never stops.🙏❤️🔥🙌☯️

[@BigBunnyLove]

@@jgarciajr82Lots of trauma. We carry much with us we could have dropped long ago.

[@BigBunnyLove]

@@sonjasizeIn skilled hands, they can be an amazing tool for healing.

[@marywright4934]

I did LSD once while writing a term paper for a comparative religion class. The words came through me. It was an amazingly beautiful experience

[@MachaMongRuad]

It would be so interesting to go back and read that now!

[@basicallyno1722]

What was your grade

[@CanvaVision]

I've had far more profound spiritual experiences 100% clean & sober than I ever did on hallucinogenics, so I don't think that people have to use anything in order to get in touch with that (other than having the desire and willingness to get in touch with God on that level), although there are some people that are so closed-minded that they might actually have to use them just to open their minds. Maybe that is what opened me up in the first place. I did pray for quite a while for God to reveal himself to me, because I had gotten clean in 12 step and was trying to find God as an Atheist. I never heard of the "dying before dying" thing. Interesting.

[@juliao1255]

I am glad you shared this. I found my closer walk with God in 12 step (clean and sober) as a "co-dependent", rather than a substance addict (if you don't count sugar or caffeine, but don't get me started -LOL). I get concerned about the recent popularity of using substances in spiritual practice, as if we cannot access these spiritual experiences without them. I worry it's a dangerous message, and a slippery slope.

[@MayimBialik]

🙌

[@r34ct4]

So glad to see Brian Muraresku in an interview again, its been too long! So stoked for this.

[@MayimBialik]

Thanks for sharing and for being here! 🧠🫶

[@fmeisjekat25]

Wow! I’ve been thinking about this version of it all for a long while. Now I can read about it as well. You’re the Best Mayim and Jonathan! Thank you Brian! Awesome 👏🏻

[@AdamDylanMajor]

All these years of teaching KZbin what I liked... I found home at last! Words can't describe my joy, though I should say even my feelings can't experience it, since I'm a skilled stoic 😊

[@MayimBialik]

🥹🤯

[@slimfishguttz5688]

50 (60?) years ago, R.Gordon Wasson made similar observations about the Hindu scriptures, i.e. the Rig Veda, concerning religion and psychedelics.

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Maybe Mayim should invite Scott Hahn on. He is very compassionate and has heard every disclaimer and responds with truth and agape love.

[@Gi-fz8rk]

Going into a different state of mind with hallucinogenics makes me think of how the Native Americans would also have these spiritual gatherings.

[@MerryLeafField]

Probably all people.

[@matiaspereira9382]

Happy birthday to Johnny Galecki and Kunal Nayyar, Mayim!

[@myssm79]

On the body/blood of Christ...it's key to remember that Christ is not a name. The word Christ and the word Buddha are the same thing, and I'm sure there are others in different cultures. It merely means enlightened. It was more a reference to embodying enlightenment. And on resurrection at the end of time....anything physical in finite. There are always and only a certain number of humans hwo can ever exist, because it's physical and theerefore finite. This is reference to the understanding of matter not being able to be destroyed. The "end of time" is a reference to the end of THIS time. In Yoga it is referred to as the Yugas..

[@charliijean]

So the word Christ is the Latin translation of the Jewish word Messiah, which means The Anointed One, Buddha means The Awakened One. Having knowledge and being anointed are two very very different things. Siddhartha Gautama was Awakened. Moses was Anointed, King David was Anointed, Jesus was Anointed, they didn't just have knowledge, they were chosen by God to fulfill God's purpose.Siddhartha Gautama sat under a tree, said smart things and inspired people to behave better. He was a trust fund baby. King David killed the last descendant of the Nephilim with a rock and established an eternal kingdom, laid out the blueprints for the temple, plus made many of the objects for the temple himself. David was a shepherd. Moses, freed his people from slavery, passed down the moral code that all civilized society lives by, regardless of religious belief and established a new nation. Moses was a shepherd. Jesus died one of the most brutal deaths invited, went out to the sick to heal them and fed other people food. Jesus was a carpenter. Also, the titles Messiah and Buddha go far beyond your average Rabbi, Priest or Monk. Any one can gain more knowledge and go into ministry, but only a chosen few can hold the title Buddha and even less that of Messiah.

[@abelbabel8484]

@@charliijean Anointed and awakened are indeed very different ... unless the ointment contains something extra. If only we knew whether the Hellenes played with psychedelics 🤔

[@Nibiru3600X]

@@abelbabel8484 Wouldn’t it be the blue lotus soaked in wine? 🤔

[@juliao1255]

For me, rather than the upside-down, it is more accurately expressed as the inside-out (& backward). I had a transformative experience at my First Holy Communion, as a traditionally raised Catholic. I have come to think of it as what the fundamentalists call the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I have never told anyone this before. I have also experienced literal metaphysical miracles, as in a phenomenon that cannot be explained by science, and that science would say is impossible. So either I am lying, I am delusional, or I experienced something "impossible". I don't care what anyone else thinks. I know what happened. I have done a lot of soul work, and I have never done drugs/halucenogenics (except for a couple hits of speed in high school, and marijuana, which I hated) and I don't drink.

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Julia, excellent

[@wendywoohoo43]

Thank you for these videos on this topic!!! As a 48 year old recovering Catholic that experienced a spontaneous spiritual awakening, I thank you. We need more of this type of content!!!! Keep up the magical work!

[@kymberleysauer2623]

In reading “The New Silk Roads” Peter Frankopan and more recently “ “The Story of Egypt” Joann Fletcher it would seem that many of these “mysteries” started way before Greece! Amazing discussions 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@KATHYSLUITER]

Amazing show again. Lots to digest here but it all sounds feasible. I lived on Dionysus when I was stationed in Greece.

[@MayimBialik]

Thanks so much for sharing and for being here! 🧠🫶

[@KATHYSLUITER]

​@MayimBialik you bring amazing people and subjects on your podcast. This is my only podcast I listen to religiously. (No pun intended 😅)

[@CB_Butler]

Totally fascinating!! Loved the conversation!

[@DeannaLouiseWrites]

This was so good, on many levels. I enjoyed how much fun you all had tackling big subjects. As a meditator, I had a clearer insight into some of my experiences, that I have never attempted to put words to. Mayim, you were so at ease conducting this interview along with adding your knowledge and wisdom, by far, one of my favorite episodes.

[@hannahswan1193]

I've always been interested in Greek and Roman history and that of early Christianity. Thank you for this episode, Mayim. Loved it 🙂

[@MayimBialik]

🫶🧠

[@4787fhjjk]

From the Pythagorean theorem to Instagram. God is good 🙏🏼.

[@oldpersonuser]

I would like a conversation that connects the spiritual rituals depicted in the Bible with OCD behavior. For example in Leviticus the priest had to clean x amount of times, they could only eat from a specific animal, or the times the shrine needed to be sprinkled with blood. Now having separated myself from religion, I read those texts and it sounds like the ramblings of a person with OCD.

[@MerryLeafField]

Yes.

[@Kathleengideon]

Fun and educational talk. As a former born and bred Christian I would love to hear you talk with Rabbi Rami Shapiro. I was fortunate enough to attend a Wisdom school in which he was one instructor on perennial wisdom. He helped change my relationship with God or the Divine.

[@ashleybeasley5429]

Yes this show is great, but I have to comment. I love the old radio commercials put in on a modern platform. Bravo, bravo.

[@Leftyotism]

In the antique world gods were representing feelings, personifying them, so you can make stories about them for children and young adults to learn from.

[@samsmulders7908]

Really interesting episode! I can listen to this conversation all day every day. I’m fascinated by this topic, so thank you for breaking this down!🧠❤️ And I love your reaction to your own song, Mayim🥹

[@arlenelanz4882]

This was an amazing discussion! Thank you so much. I truly hope that the conversation with Brian will continue at some point in the not-too- distant future 🤞

[@joanelizabethsheartsrest]

I think this is my favorite breakdown so far thanks so much❤

[@janedoe1146]

Nice conversation and topics, thank you all! 🥰

[@jamisunblue9270]

Hi Mayim 👋 Thanks for all your podcasts! I love your content. You make EVERYTHING easier to understand and fun to listen to. Huge favor... I am feeling very lost in regards to the protests at college campuses. I was not fortunate enough to attend college and am not familiar with how they may be funded and how that relates with the conflict in Gaza. I feel there is much more beneath the surface and I just don't understand what's going on. You don't have to, but if you have any way of breaking down this topic I would love some Mayim clarity to better understand what's going on. Thanks again for all you and your team do!

[@critterkarma]

How to bring back the mystical into ritual? Interestingly the use of incense during rituals, also can have mind altering effects. the smoke from the censors of Frankincense and Myrrh are known to have mild euphoric effect.

[@robinsiciliano8923]

I’m loving this episode. Had to pause to mention a guest suggestion. Suzanne Giesemann. Thank you guys for this show.

[@nwhittum]

Wow again. Great discussion. I'm a Catholic, raised without church, stumbled into the Catholic church just after college through a process named RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults). I am actually glad I learned the teaching as an adult rather than depending on practices that are typically passed along to children. Many of the people you will meet won't be able to describe the Transubstantiation of the bread and wine that is changed into the body and blood of Christ. There are so many stories that I have heard about this mystery. Would love to share what I have learned but also find myself a Catholic desiring to learn more about Judiasiam. We may be on similar quests of information.

[@Thialeana]

I am one of those people who had Christianity thrown down their throat as a kid. Which in turn led me to research just about every culture of religion I possibly could as a teen and adult in the 20s. Even as a child I used to question everything from why my Great, very Southern, Baptist, Cherokee, Grandmother was brown and I was white (At the age of 3. I wish I could remember what she said lol.) ) to why my Catholic Grandma prayed to Mary. (her answer, well why do you pray to God?) I love this episode. It explores basically everything I wanted too as a teenager and young adult. And now as an adult in her 40's I get to pounder the question of Christianity and how the bigger world works once more. I can't wait to get my hands on this book!

[@mindproxyllc]

Amazing conversation!

[@mariansmith7694]

WOW, you all inspire me to study more.

[@MayimBialik]

🤯🥹

[@KnitWitch]

Freaking fascinating conversation!

[@jed88]

Fark yea! Wonderful conversation. Many secrets revealed.

[@alethealopez4475]

Loved this. Really enjoyed Brian, great dialogue.

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Grazia Romano, I agree with her comment about not disrespecting the faith of others.

[@claudiaxander]

I'll tolerate those that tolerate me. To tolerate intolerance is cowardice at best, suicide at worst.

[@loveroflife1914]

I took a bunch LSD and listened to Catholic and Orthodox chants and I felt like I actually understood what the ancient greeks were trying to say with the trinity. Still sticks with me today

[@CutieWarrior-ol8ik]

What a lovely person. I like listening to stories from Greek mythology. Now I can interpret many aspects completely differently. The connections with today's religions are also fascinating. I am not religous (I'm a spiritual person though), but I'm sure that what is written in scriptures are not just stories. The truths are hidden within I think

[@dporter-gage9907]

Thank you Jonathon for summarizing topics that have little language around them. I am here for an intellectual look at the biblical world. Wine has a new definition for me. So, I'm not done watching and I paused to order 3 books. Also, the body and blood of Christ? Fair question.

[@Didyouknow535]

We love you Mayim! Can't wait to see you on Young Sheldon!

[@Oshesky]

Love the opening trailer!

[@shannonzito1069]

I’m 45 and raised Christian. I have spent the majority of my life in search of authenticity in my faith. I struggled with the Catholic practice of body and blood of Christ. This conversation was very interesting. I find it curious that your guest is still a practicing Catholic while working on this scholarship. I would think they conflict with each other. I’d be curious to hear his views about Christ specifically and the practice of Eucharist in today’s church.

[@lt8342]

I went to Fordham so I deeply understand the Jesuits and their amazing thirst for knowledge. They changed my life.

[@juliemuchow4576]

The bread and wine is symbolic of sharing in Christs body and blood as he shared for us. Thats why alot of time current Christians say we do this in rememberance of him.

[@abelbabel8484]

It's drugs, bro. I kinda want some

[@robinmonson6333]

Eveone has a right to believe in what they want Jesus to me is 100% Real I have faith Always will I am writing this Before I watch this video. So lets see what I think after

[@laurarand3971]

Dying daily is a a New Testament concept as well. One of the most helpful teachings of my former Christian life.

[@playlojloreal1]

1:07:54 actually doing my dishes right now 🤣

[@thewitchery6044]

So much fun. On another note. Love you're hair in this episode. Super cute!

[@aribeans78]

I love this episode! Just bought the book and I can’t wait to read it!

[@joanmurphy2166]

⚘ Thank you from here in Standish, Maine. ⚘

[@playlojloreal1]

Practicing Catholic here. Very interesting conversation!

[@tomlichnofsky.7048]

Fantastic Episode! 😊👍👌 The Awesomeness that Is Continues! 👊😎✊ Stay Golden 🍁🍁

[@throwingpearls4601]

I'm 6 mins in, and he says Jesuit. Saves me some time digging into his background looking for the Jesuit connection. Thanks....moving along

[@m_brokenleg]

Prejudices. Just that: previous judgement. Have a nice day.

[@throwingpearls4601]

My pre judgments are based on two years of research into the Society of Jesus and am confident in my conclusions. The Jesuit order was founded and tasked with one primary mission, to discredit the Bible as was understood and taught by the reformers. Rome was very unhappy about their loss of power, wealth, and influence and they were determined to get it back by any means necessary; in fact, a Jesuit motto is "the ends justify the means"

[@m_brokenleg]

@@throwingpearls4601 That motto was Machiavello’s..who was not a jesuit. Jesuist motto is AMDG (if you studied so much, you know what it means). I fear your two years of studing so intensely the Jesuit order left you with a void of other knowledge. All the new religious orders constituted a fundamental part of the Counter-Reformation. Orders such as the Capuchins, Discalced Carmelites, Ursulines, Theatines, Paulists, Pauls...not just Jesuits. Put all this in context of the time and society. And then look for Liberation Theology member Ignacio Ellacuria S.J. and other jesuists assassination in El Salvador as the two ones in Chihuahua in 2022. It’s much more close in time…Bye!

[@juliao1255]

@@throwingpearls4601 Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[@BrigittePatrice4750]

As an ayahuascas person. I can say that the mind is a hall of mirrors, it easily gets lost in its reflections, this is why the taoist neigong, buddhist sunyata, kriya practice and JHANA yogas, are at such a different level.

[@Blou-]

So interesting love all of this

[@loniwilliams82]

Nice they are discussing tinctures in the first minute. This is gonna be good stuff. 💯❣️

[@MayimBialik]

Thanks for sharing and for being here! 🧠🫶

[@bananaegger]

Jesus is the truth.

[@tviehl3399]

Most likely not, no. Definitely not literally. Feel free to believe. But please don‘t confuse belief or faith with truth, no matter how well it might work out for you as a moral compass.

[@abelbabel8484]

You better hope it's not all true or we're gonna have to find out what Jesus really did with that naked boy in the middle of the night in that Gethsemane park, blood on his face and all.

[@paulmosca4351]

What makes a thing, an experience, or any cultural characteristic the truth?

[@robinandersen4181]

What constitutes a psychological death? Just a little confused on this point. Can someone clarify for me please?

[@michaelk622]

I suggest interviewing Bernardo Kastrup…fascinating guy

[@marciovieira7849]

Obrigado por esse episódio. Minha opinião sobre uso onde for, de alucinógenos, bebidas com misturas suspeitas e etc, tenho minhas reservas... Acredito que levam ao dano cerebral (às vezes irreversível), ou até a morte. A cidade de L.A, tenho visto no KZbin alguns vídeos mostrando o prejuízo que as drogas e etc infelizmente estão causando. Obrigado do Brasil.

[@idniilzo]

22:00 Would bet that it was some kind of nondual/unity with the divine type of experience.

[@MerryLeafField]

The only pain that I had during childbirth was the contractions. Nothing else hurt. Interesting. (The second one. The first one I had an epidural. No time for anything for the second one. I didn't even feel the stitches.) Maybe I was in a self-induced trance/panic. That could be it. You can have a spiritual experience without plants, mushrooms, etc., but with vibrations-drum, rattle, etc., and probably other ways.

[@tysonmckinney5494]

Humbly, the bigger questions are based in our development of consciousness. We are trying to “reconnect” with our original position, ( like the “big bang” , but in a quantinamical fractal kinda way). I recommend the “Bhagavad Gita: As it is” is Great because it has the original Sanskrit, transliteration, and explanation. All “religion” is really based, though not always focused, but harmonic resonance to Increase consciousness for the betterment of All. To develop the understanding of the science, philosophy, that go behind what you are doing. Then the “triune brain” theory also correlates to the consciousness of “ignorance”, “passion”, or “goodness”/ knowledge. It’s a process.

[@kimnurse6691]

Once again the conversation ..though extensive...has left me feeling the same as before...people trying to put an omniscient God in a box.

[@critterkarma]

The incubation technique described here, sounds very similar to “Yoga Nidra”. Your thoughts?

[@cyrillllll]

This was the most nourishing thing ever

[@MayimBialik]

🤯🥹

[@LorenSuJa]

🎉🎉woah! This episode was AWESOME!🎉🎉🎉

[@MayimBialik]

🥹🤯

[@LorenSuJa]

@@MayimBialik I mean super interesting PLUS I got ALL your djing playing in my head! Also,since I finished the schooleh I allways really wanted somebody to "make it make sense" but feared to be labeled as anyagonistic...aaaand...voila! Today.You.Did.It! You are a special person! Thank you Mayim!

[@unme4728]

Very important to remember that in the sacrament of communion, it is the body of *Christ*. The priest is not saying, "The body of Jesus." These are spiritual Mysteries that have a Reality and Truth just as myths are not simply stories, but express spiritual and psychological (of the psyche) truths. Same goes for symbols.

[@DavidTyrrell-cv7nl]

Nifty. What's nifty? All of it. 👍

[@LeggoMyTailyPo]

And now we know what they were talking about with all that "burning bush" stuff.😅

[@verkanntoderverwunschen]

in elementary school we would play as a group of girls in these subsections of bush and tree-lined open-closures (im gebüsch) and we'd give ourselves or each other witchy aliases (wonder why with that namechange impulse! still have a thing for that), i don't remember the others unfortunately i'd be curious, but we would interact with leaves and plants as if preparing them without digesting them (out of caution and poison awareness) but it was on lunchbreak! we would instrumentalize sticks and shell-ish containers and get the juices out of leaves and berries and mix things up. it was like playing house in a sense, we would wonder off (in pairs maybe) but return to one another to share our favorite spaces. i (without growing up on the comics, no touchpoint but i had the W.I.T.C.H ones going on which did shape me, i'd re-read them. they had a lot of emotional depth!) went by a name based around ivy, probably because the sides of our home were overgrown with it, think i always liked the smell of it. wonder what the tropes to the character are i still haven't dabbled oh she cultivated roses? funny to think that there is a potential reoccurrence of ancient rites in that, bit sad that there was no facilitation of learning what was what and what could be done with the plants! wonder what we picked on instinct, i know that i picked leaves for their scent that weren't offputting to the touch, i liked soft leaves, i've got a sensory recall for it. love a snake ring! there's a beautiful sunrise with a lot of smooth-cloud dusty periwinkle going on right now. oh to be painted a devil when what you feel is sunbright! boy do they get a bad rep? i think OCD and its intrusive waking&sleeping-nightmare side can be troublesome with psychedelia like it can surround within that flavor of intrusions.

[@tysonmckinney5494]

I always thought the wine and bread had to do more with like fermentation, as a second life.

[@jwb52z9]

I find him very interesting because I almost never meet anyone who studied the Bible and Christianity itself very deeply, as he has apparently done, and didn't become an atheist.

[@jwb52z9]

I'm surprised that he went into this level of depth, but he never mentions ego death to reach Nirvana or Enlightenment/Realization, but he does talk about the mind stilling during meditation. I could be wrong, but he also seems to be talking about what Eastern religions and Spirituality would call a third eye meditation. From my admittedly limited experience, that's the only sober method of having these experiences. I'd just say that stilling the mind is a little bit more achievable than he thinks. Am I completely misunderstanding what he's saying? Edit: Ok, he does get there talking about ego death.

[@gabbygabslcsw]

This is so bizarre. I literally had this conversation recently through passover that Moses did not talk directly to god - he was high on mushrooms. Its totally believable and not a stretch as it is still common practice today among many cultures to use intoxicating substances to be more connected spiritually ayahuasca, marijuana, psilocybin, and even alcohol have all be used in religions to bring us closer to god. Those of you who find this so deeply offensive could benefit from reflecting on why its so painful for you to believe someone was in an altered state of consciousness and experienced connection to something greater.

[@MachaMongRuad]

^^^ This! Thank you!

[@FarBear-by6rw]

Most religious people don't have the critical thinking skills to grasp this. I'm happy they covered this topic it's food for thought

[@Charity-vm4bt]

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[@pagal83]

There are theories that Moses consumed leaves of the Accaia tree, which contains DMT. I'm not entirely sure it's the leaves, but that's what I remember.

[@MikeTMike]

​@@pagal83 There are theories he never existed. There is no evidence for him, or for Jews ever being slaves in Egypt.

[@colleenng-rau8215]

Someone should tell Brian about Santo Daime.

[@Happinessking816]

The title of this one!!!! On god

[@lt8342]

It was a warm summer day in Ancient Greece…… - s cooper lol.

[@gingerlandrylee8994]

Yall should check out Dr Hillman’s info. He’s a PhD in Classics, with an emphasis on ancient pharmacology. His info is fascinating!

[@baeconater8]

Jesus Christ is the way and the only way. 🙏♥️

[@BurnLikeAFlame]

Yes, you have a mental disturbance.

[@eliewolf]

Please talk to Bart Ehrman if you aren’t already familiar with his body of work and scholarship. 🇮🇱❤️

[@janetjohnson998]

Ayahuasca is your best bet. It is beautiful. I went to Rythmia in Costa Rica. Safe and professional and spiritual.

[@The-Aion]

Brian's okay. He's got a lot of interesting stuff in that book that Carl Ruck and Dr. DCA Hillman pointed him towards. Some of his comments were wrong as well. Such as "we don't know what happened in the mysteries". Clement of Alexandria profanes the "heathen mysteries" in his "Exhortation to the Heathen". Aeschylus is also very famously accused of impiety for revealing too much of the mystery in his plays. He made mention that nobody from as far East as India came to Eleusis for the mystery, which is also false. According to Lucius Cassius Dio, a Gymnosophist from India by the name of Zarmarus visited Eleusis and burned himself alive after attending the mystery. Also the comment about wine being the one thing connecting the Greek mysteries to Christianity is not correct. There were plenty of other concepts and titles that were in use centuries before Christianity came around. Virgin birth, son of God, Eucharist, Exorcism, raising the dead. The word for "Christing" shows up in Prometheus Bound, centuries before Christianity's inception. Brian is a savvy writer, but he needs to give credit to those who showed him something like Dioscurides.

[@Happinessking816]

What do you do if you are one of those people. I feel like I have to hide and stay quiet and not fully me because the world doesn’t quite get it and everyone is trying to manipulate instead of just enjoy this plane of existence together

[@Happinessking816]

Glad I finally have a work space I feel good in and hope it last but will enjoy this discourse we currently have at work while it last ❤🎉 but I also have to work remotely because of my differences with my brain to be happy I have to work remotely

[@FarBear-by6rw]

Keep working on yourself and who cares what other people think you are unique

[@DeborahQualls-hx7op]

I am so enjoying this conversation. Learning and having my mind blown as well. But please stop saying “right?” after making points/comments. A pet peeve, maybe.

[@Katarinajoel]

The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results.

[@AlanEugeneJacksonn666]

Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source here

[@LeanneCladern]

My first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea

[@BillyRayCyrus-zc6gr]

@@AlanEugeneJacksonn666 [MYCO_TRAY] Got psychs

[@AmelieLouis-pz6yh]

One of my best experiences in my life was doing Isd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and i got an A in the college class of comparative religion

[@AlanEugeneJacksonn666]

@@BillyRayCyrus-zc6gr he on on Instagram or what?

[@dharmayogaashram979]

He practices yoga? He practices the Hindu religion?

[@angelinamclaughlin-heil]

So much of Christianity is paganism. So glad he talks about that fact.

[@G8rquest]

I like 1 Cor. 10 in conjunction with manna's physical characteristics, Liberty, caps on staffs, and destroying angels for the careless.

[@omribo69]

This needs a strong coffee ❤❤❤ doing and starting to listen

[@MayimBialik]

Thanks for sharing and for being here! 🥹🧠

[@saulreyes2976]

So what about Islam ?? Oh your attacks on the Christains is ok. I seen miracles no drugs

[@spikesecho724]

There are literally thousands of Christian denominations, and bastardizations of Christianity (and Christianity is a bastardization of Judaism). Tackling the source is better then trying to tackle each and every one.

[@saulreyes2976]

@@spikesecho724 thousands of recorded healings and miracles plus prophecy that are true

[@Heru_Iluvatar]

@@spikesecho724 Some may say Christianity is an improvement of Judaism

[@spikesecho724]

@@Heru_Iluvatar you mean Christians may say that 😂

[@Heru_Iluvatar]

@@spikesecho724 No. Anyone who's done their research thoroughly enough.

[@elsjemassyn8921]

You guys need to watch Christspiracy

[@PastPresentFuture-pr4pm]

Well, much infusions of the gospel like other religious sects and off shoot practices have been done. I think Islam may be the only one which still has its original linkage to counter off shoot ideologies. It's no strange thing historical that Greeks were involved in some Christianity infusions or even a good part of some ideologies. People say no to Jesus existing, but you have to think about his family lineage, are you making up his grandfather and great grandfather John and Zakariya? The apostles wrote and ascribed his tutelidge, some which may be fabricated, lost or still connected or made up by some scribes. Also it's true that we are made to see Jesus as this hippie, but is that the exactness of his persona ? He may be right to conclude that Greek infusions may have caused this fictional person versus the real person. Dionysus would never talk about God unless it was within that mythology neither helping out the poor or commenting on how pasy practices have lost their genuine ways. Why would Dionysus the mythological character speak on such things about what we can probably try to gather of the historical past in debate.

[@unme4728]

Mayim, Christians do not worship "a young Jew named Jesus". Saying this is offensive, meant to ridicule--and I think you are smart enough to know this. Jesus' being Jewish is incidental. It could very well be that Jesus embodied among the Jews because the message was most most needed there. It could be that the area was the most ripe for having the teachings disseminated. Often Jews seem to tend to look at everything that goes on through the lens of Jewishness, but most of the rest of the world does not.