HIGH SPEED FITTING // Andre has serious speed with the irons

[@CoreyMU33]

Let’s see a driver fit for this guy next!

[@jasongraham5648]

I wish all fitters were this committed to their clients.

[@atamagashock]

For real! If they were I wouldn’t be changing into a new set after one season. Regardless of that part, they also didn’t do anything with grips, lie, and length. I called and had my grips changed before the build started, so atleast I avoided that and obviously lie angles are easily changed, but I really needed my irons 1/4-1/2” longer

[@CoryLancasterYT]

It's the M.O. of the vast majority, keep them buying!

[@ColinMcCarthyGolf]

Appreciate the shoutout Andrea 🤙

[@andrewooo001]

What a lucky man Mike is! To be able to work and learn from Ian is such a blessing.

[@riaankohn7944]

I had a fitting with someone swinging 7 iron 104-106mph yesterday. Certainly impressive to see someone hitting 7iron 204-210 meters and hitting 5wood 300 meters with ease. He hit a couple of drivers over 340meters at sea level in Cape Town! Really enjoy the fittings. I do fittings everyday, but still feel that I learn from different fittings as well. Not every day we see someone with this amiunt of speed.

[@blakeg.1093]

Always fun to watch a fitting, regardless of swing speed. I always learn something.

[@therealad4342]

So nice to see somebody get fit with this type of speed. I’m in the same club head speed range and typically when I go into a fit most people don’t carry what I need.

[@bg-fl5kr]

ye right

[@Bech285]

You must live far from everything. A regular fitter would have all this available :D

[@KristyHaller]

To be young 🎉

[@therealad4342]

@@Bech285 lol nah I live in a good spot. I just remember before I learned everything I know now going to the big box stores and none of them carried what I needed.

[@fortmcmurtry]

@@therealad4342 I fit at a big box store and we had everything from game improvement to blades, lite to xtra stiff shafts. I will admit we didn't have every shaft for every head. I wish we had the universal adapters like they do on this channel. Taylormade and company only want to provide so many fitting shafts...

[@kylemurphy5692]

I'd enjoy a driver fitting with this guy. BOMBS !

[@erikjoven2388]

as a baseball player - you are not used to any play or lag in the "shaft" (bat). The bat is wherever you put it - it doesnt really lag behind much like a bendy golf shaft does. His overall timing and his brain doesnt really account for flex in the shaft - so he times it better the stiffer the shaft is. what a swing

[@dustintitterington1856]

Enjoyed it! It seems for some younger guys especially that having a higher swing speed with poor fitting clubs (irons especially) actually makes shots worse. That speed becomes a liability instead of an asset!

[@darrencope1]

Be great to see him smash driver !! Especially with being someone who’s not yet elite.

[@flogrown2014]

Some serious speed here !

[@ConnorLyon]

Ian if you want to do another follower fitting- I am interested in seeing if there's something out there that can beat the Mc501 fitting you did for me 4 years ago. Still an okay player and the subscribers may enjoy it.

[@fernandopereira4299]

This is what talent looks like. If he can work on improving face to path and strike, well then I can only imagine.

[@FavTrain]

Andres swing is pretty and terrifyingly fast at the same time!

[@nickgarcia2703]

wowza, wish i had speed like that. great to watch

[@paulwags662]

Youve created a monster!

[@shawngordon8697]

I've hit balls beside this guy an chatted with him . Plays an practice at Guelph lake crazy speed

[@JosephBouie]

Changed the play speed and watched that initial swing 50 times. Sick!

[@brandondean9576]

Big boy shafts right there

[@PYGolf]

🇨🇦 Love the content as always, dude can hit it a mile 🤝

[@jakebreathes2387]

Could AVX be a good ball for him? Isn’t that the lowest spin premium Titlest ball?

[@Steadfast_Training]

People trying to flex their ball speed in the comments is so weird. Even if it is true no one cares just stop

[@ScratchArkkitehti]

This looks like the audition video for a high speed addition to the team for testing products. Give Ian and his back a break lol

[@michaelmorrison009]

2 yards of roll. Money. ❤

[@patrickbeach3070]

Curious as length was not mentioned. Could you elaborate on why maybe a quarter inch or half inch was not added? To bring the strike more centered? Would love to see Andre come back after this coming season.

[@DavidPetryk]

Very nice video. Interesting stuff.

[@martymcflytriple0007]

Heads up Ian this fellow may be the next gen Club Champion testing machine... impressive tempo, but needs your Jedi teachings 🏌⛳

[@blakeroeder8518]

Sick speed. 🤯🤯🤯

[@sayork100]

Loved seeing this! As a higher speed guy myself getting into the iron market this gave me some interesting things to think about and echoed some internal thoughts Ive had. I need some forgiveness (I miss toe a lot as well) but I don’t need help with height or distance. I’ve felt that my misses are accentuated by my current set (somewhat forgiving iron) bc the ball can hang in the air so long. I think I understood yall to be trying to avoid this situation during this fit? Are there other irons you’d have considered testing him in? I was leaning towards Mizuno 245s but not wondering if I should stray away from those?

[@nellynelson9387]

15-18hcp here. Tried to replocate this speed. Managed 134ball speed with my 6 iron 5500rpm spin 194yards carry. Impresive fit guys well done again 👏 Impressive golfer 🏌️‍♂️ 👏 Should get him back for a driver fit

[@ryajsmit]

Jake napp all over with time free swings are fun

[@MichaelLaing-t2j]

i need a fitting like this. I went to 2 different fitters and they were completly different. Now I need a 3rd opinion

[@FairwayDreams]

I have the dynamic x7 in my Callaway tcb and they are amazing heavy I think mine are about 135g because it’s +1 in length

[@Pearce_Golfs]

If you guys ever come to one of the Ohio locations please give me a shout. My 7 iron swing speed cruises at 99-102 mph. I currently play a combo set of blades and cavities but have not been truly fit. If I dont impress I will guarantee that I’ll buy the set that I’d recommended to me from your shop.

[@RealSteel2000]

I don’t know what I am missing. Is he in a tour head because of his swing speed? He did not find center center once. I’m looking at p770s playing off a 5. After watching this video that is really changing seeing the amount of forgiveness he is getting off toe shanks.

[@atamagashock]

104mph 6 iron is crazy fast!

[@pointless5518]

Over the last 5 years I’ve been fit 3 times. Never have I had a fitter go into such detail and put in this level of work. I’ve recently felt like I’ll never get fit again and just buy clubs I try at my local store. From my recent experiences it’s the same thing and costs much less. These lazy fitters are hurting the community and the bottom line of this business.

[@krusher74]

Once you watch a channel like this and are self educated most fitting are going to seem low info/energy. As you say if you have a local store with a hitting bay you can just try stuff and if you know what numbers to look for for yourself.

[@pointless5518]

@ exactly…. So true and well said

[@MussbacherIndustries]

Long time viewer. I am curious. Can you advise, why for such a strong swing speed guy, that you moved to a loft setting to 29 degrees? Where the standard, maybe old, Men's loft for a 6 iron is 31 degrees. And yes, I know the Titleist manufacture sets the T100 game improvement clubs loft, at sale, at 30 degrees. Interesting the Calloway Apex 19 6 iron has a loft setting of 26.5 degrees. I do understand and appreciate you adjusted the lie to address his toe down nature. Thanks

[@ianmcgregor4502]

Would love for you guys to do your magic with my irons next time your in Scotland fancy giving me a fit

[@JimMaronGolf]

I've cracked the face on about 8 drivers in the last 15 years. I only swing about 110mph, but hit lots of range balls. always crack in the same place, high of center, horizontal across the face

[@tacomandood7371]

Have my fitting scheduled this Friday and am somewhat near these speeds (about 5-7mph less club speed), but I’m a much higher handicap. It’s still interesting to see what you guys identify as potential cause/effects of inconsistent flights at this speed. Curious to see what different shaft/head combos might be able to help me reduce dispersion.

[@paul_neff]

Do a full bag fitting with this dudeee

[@kevinconnolly754]

Interesting video, i play the Apex/pro combo's and love them. Recently though have gained a tonne of speed through compression. 7 iron was around 160m but now at 175m. I'm not sure if i need to look at changing shafts (True Temper xp 95s) or maybe a complete new set🤷‍♂️

[@spateeight]

Zx7 2 degrees weak would have been interesting

[@robsweet3285]

Just curious what swing weight the final build was with his speed. I was recently fit by an OEM and they didn't calculate for grip change and the weight was C1. 97mph 7i so I'm very curious what you guys think about swing weight. Great video!

[@jman000]

C1? That's incredibly light and a serious miss by the OEM.

[@robsweet3285]

@jman000 yeah they ended up rebuilding the irons to come in around D3 and feel so much better. They felt like badminton rackets. The messed up part is that they tried to tell me to just get used to them and it wasn't a big deal.

[@paulwags662]

@@robsweet3285 thats insane.

[@robsweet3285]

@@paulwags662 I thought so too but see alot of people say it's just an arbitrary number so was curious what Ian's thoughts are on the topic

[@krusher74]

@@robsweet3285 maybe between D0 and D4 might be more arbitary for an male golfer, but C1 is a kids (not even ladies)weight!!! All that OEM have done is take a factory set, remove the standard grip replace with jumbo? and sent them out hoping you wont notice. The OEM have not even built those clubs for you. They could not be bothered to pull shafts and put weights in the tips to swing weight them for you. Trying to tell you "it was not a big deal" is just lazy gaslighting.

[@lukasoczkowski1791]

Just curious, why wouldn't c-taper 130 be an option to try?

[@freddym6643]

Guessing they've been burnt too many times on availability and bent tips

[@stephencwilson8151]

Would like to see how his bag develops.

[@sorcerycircus4090]

Oh was Andre hitting the T100 ?? Not the T150 ?

[@redbear8263]

It would have been interesting to see P7CB at the same loft and lie as T100….

[@Sffhjjngtggb]

he swings like someone who played baseball.

[@eriktorngren4079]

Great video. Would love to see someone like my son. He’s 16 years old, 0.5 hdcp, has similar speed to Andre, but my son spins it too much. AOA around -3.5 degrees, so definitely not steep. 6 irons spin 8,000. His fitter got him in a Oban CT 125 and a P770 head to try to reduce the spin. Not entirely successful judging by his last driving range session.

[@sayork100]

What ball is he playing? I’m higher swing speed. Was tinkering with the AVX but recently moved into the ProV1x Left Dash and so far it’s been a much better fit.

[@eriktorngren4079]

@ thank you for responding, I’ve been wanting to ask somebody in the same position this very question! He’s been using ProV1x and Vice Pro Plus. I’ve had him experiment with ProV1 and Vice Pro - jury is still out on the ProV1, and he doesn’t like at all the Vice Pro. He feels the lower trajectory is increasing his spin. I had him try the ProV1x left dash and his initial reaction was that he didn’t like it. He didn’t like the feel around and on the green. I’m figuring that’ll pass if he gives it a chance. But I was thinking about the AVX as an option - what was it about it that didn’t work for you?

[@sayork100]

@@eriktorngren4079 the vice ball was wayyy to spinny for me. Try the “proV1x left dash” model. Also, give the AVX a try if he doesn’t like that. But I’ve been happy with the left dash since experimenting with it.

[@edbowejr6130]

Ping i230 would be perfect for him, not a ball speed club but the most forgiving players cavity out there

[@mrtopramen]

Those 4-5* toe down strikes 😬 even at 2 degrees the strikes don’t feel nearly as pure as zeroed out. I’d tell him to slow down and figure that out. Probably just getting hands lower at impact. It brings in another variable that lowers consistency of strike with each club and trajectory among all the clubs. I don’t know if it’s a case of just changing the lie angle on the clubs to toe up but maybe. The club face gets more twitchy the more upright you make it. He may start snap hooking it.

[@louispounds7486]

Adjunct faculty interview!!

[@peterpetersen2210]

3:18 mit 3:31 16:16 mit 19:11 c u at The Masters '25 conclusio: it depends on strike-criteria, not on the brand Irgend jemand 'schraubt' da ständig an face to target - face to path ... .

[@MattMacKo]

Wow...dudes 6iron is as fast as my Driver. Impressive

[@hack.nicklaus]

200 with a 6 iron out the toe is bonkers

[@colecole4774]

Hopefully yall gave him the cobra king tour to try out since they match up very well with the t100 but typical provide a better result off the toe area.

[@krusher74]

i think you saw it all.

[@nzigg8161]

No Srixon love from the guys!

[@krusher74]

I think as they mentioned toward the end, they are about getting the player to the right numbers before they get fatigued. after doing hundreds of fits a year thy will have go to heads that are getting them there quicker each year. It just shows how hard fought for peoples custom clubs companies have to work. I would guess the average non club nerd also want buy a brand they have some interest in. If you walked in and say look I relalu like strixon, muira and mizuno, thy would say, ok lets see what works for you from them. I (guess again) the average guy wants to walk out with a titlist, calloway or taylormade.

[@axenico]

I can easily see 350yd from him with the Driver :D

[@phild3892]

What’s the peak height on these shots

[@NickWainwright6970]

Mid 130 feet…….. wow

[@robintaylor1490]

Curious your choice of club heads ? T100, p7cb and MP243. So these club heads are different from each other. Imo not a direct comparison from each brand. Is there a reason for this decision that you would like to share ?

[@mikeabel7577]

I hit all three at a recent fitting. I went with the T100. I consider all three to be quite similar. The T100 is noticeably smaller with a thinner topline, but all three have a forged face, similar lofts, with tungsten weighting to assist with ball flight and he off center hits. Which one do you think doesn't belong here?

[@willadair6178]

Ian might have to change his name to Harry because you’re a wizard.

[@jeffadams5413]

Another great video. But honestly it’s hard for me to relate to this. At 68 and a slow swing speed not sure a club fitting would help me. But I enjoy listening to you knowledge of the golf swing data

[@grimwalrus9410]

They have tons of vids fitting higher handicap and older players. This is actually a rarity for them and nice to see as a better player who has speed. Every video can’t be for every viewer.

[@mikeabel7577]

Getting the right shaft on the right clubhead can benefit everyone who plays golf no matter the swing speed. It's certainly worth the time if you're going to purchase new irons. Even if you're buying something used, it would help to know what kind of shaft weight and flex you need.

[@lindsaynewell6319]

depends how old your current irons are. If you're still playing steel shafts, just trying graphite might be an eye opener (it was for me at age 56 - I never did a fitting until this channel inspired me to try it).

[@kevinoneill2170]

Jeff, if you have not done so already, search the club champion channel videos for fittings with Ronnie. I forget exactly how old Ronnie is but he is in his late 60s or early 70s I think and his swing speed is very relatable for a senior golfer. Ian has done at least 12 videos with Ronnie on the channel over the years.

[@jeffadams5413]

@ I did finally get a chance to watch the Fitting with Ronnie. I have done several driver fittings with 3 different fitting studios in the Chicago area. And I must say not one of them was as through as your fittings. After watching how you helped Ronnie I will be giving them another chance. Thanks Kevin

[@michaelsmoot5200]

Mikey looking to join Canadian Military?

[@sillysausage4872]

i can get my 6 iron to 150s ball speed. i love a fitting like this to fix the spin

[@mattmoore9790]

Why would you want to have a 6 iron with 150mph ball speed? Golf is a control game, being able to replicate and be consistent. Super high speeds with irons does not necessarily translate to lower scores.

[@sillysausage4872]

@mattmoore9790 Yes i know. Im fast. Can cruise in the 140s. But 150s feel better to me. And its builing speed. Im more accurate with 6 iron from 220. Than a wood or rescue.

[@garyhovey9305]

103mph on a 6 iron 205 yards 😂

[@loicdesroches9441]

Bro is high as hell lmao

[@cedwards889]

Why didn't we ask him to stand a .25" .5" closer to the ball to try and get center face contact?

[@paulwags662]

Because you can correct that with lie angle and the shaft as they showed in the video. How in the world is someone going to gauge .25 of an inch in setup with any consistency? Much easier to adjust the equipment so it fits the golfers natural ability.

[@cedwards889]

@@paulwags662 But they didn't improve it much at all. Even with the final optimized gamer, average contact was well out into the toe.

[@krusher74]

if it was no causing a serious problem, asking a person to do that can mess with their swing during the fit and mess things up, they club they optimized were still the best, he can now take them and trying to move strike over time if he wishes.

[@ryanwalters694]

There’s a $1500 visit to club champions lol

[@cheese4nhl]

Double that lol

[@ryanwalters694]

@ you would pay $3000 for a set of titelists? Ripped off

[@ryanwalters694]

Just for clarification, t100 irons are $200/club. A 7 club set would be $1400. That shaft is a stock option so no up charge. Factor in tax and shipping it would be well under $3000. If someone sold you a set for $3000, they robbed you blind

[@kevinoneill2170]

@@ryanwalters694 that is not how it works when you buy clubs from club champion, @cheese4nhl is correct. For example you pay 200 each for the T100 heads AND you also pay for the shafts and grips separately. Just because Titleist (and other OEMs) offers the club and ("stock") shaft and grip combo for 200 each on their website and in big box stores, that is not how club champion (and some other custom club builders) pricing works. Easily over 2k, and even more if you get suckered into getting the iron shafts Pured.

[@kevinoneill2170]

​@@ryanwalters694 that is not how pricing works at club champion, cheese4nhl is correct. For example you pay for the T100 heads AND you also pay for the shafts and grips separately. Just because Titleist and other OEMs offers the club and "stock" shaft and grip combo for say 200US each on their website and in big box stores, that is not how club champion (and many other custom club builders) pricing works. Easily over 2k, and even more if you get suckered into getting the iron shafts Pured.

[@alexanderhemming9148]

Honestly these fits are such nonsense, if you don't finish it hitting your original club then you don't really know anything. Good for them as they want you to buy into it but be a smart consumer and make sure you're not just hitting better shots because you're comfortable and now in a groove. You know Ian knows this too as for when he's getting fit he'll check this at the end, conveniently never does that with a client

[@FingerBlaster5000]

Way too many ads!! Hard to watch.

[@markspence5288]

No way this bloke is off 3. 13 maybe but not 3

[@golffella88]

He could easily be 3. Did you not see how he hit it at the end. I’m off 3 and he would hit it better than me. Chipping saves me

[@and16942]

Why does it matter? Handicap system is horrible. Play him as a 3 and take his money if you think he can’t play to it.

[@1221spartan]

As someone with similar speed with greatly more variance in dispersion… being a long hitter your potential to score on your “good” days goes up drastically. Every hole is reachable in 2 at 90% of courses so if you keep it in play you’re gaining a ton of strokes. The handicap system isn’t perfect but in my opinion if you understand how it is supposed to work it’s pretty damn good. 14.5 index here going on my third year.