HILTI vs Milwaukee (Reciprocating Saws)

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[@CreepinCreeper145]

MCT: "I'm not gonna time this" Also MCT: *"Time!"*

[@ManCaverTools]

lol

[@robertfrate9738]

Hi Dave, I’m a huge fan of both these tools and both did excellent for me, excellent quality video ty so much, Bob,

[@davidzee3755]

Super sawzall got this in the bag

[@ManCaverTools]

we will see what happens

[@davidwest3528]

Love your videos man!! Keep them coming you deserve wayyy more recognition

[@ManCaverTools]

I appreciate you support David

[@theholisticnd]

I've started to buy more cordless tools and your tests are the best. I really enjou your channel

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you and I am glad I can help Mathieu

[@drmrpepper]

Funny with the timing on the hammer strokes 😂🤟🏻

[@ManCaverTools]

if I said it wrong im sorry lol

[@chachaloB]

Extraordinary Video, Dave, the milwaukee it's literally a beast, well done!

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Gonzalo

[@engjds]

I got the normal sawzall and managed to puncture the boot first heavy job, the boot is noticeably thinner on the new sawzalls, disappointing tbh, quality should get better with time not worse in the tool game.

[@atrainace114]

You should have used the 36 v hilti since you used the fuel version of recip saw. It would have been interesting to see the outcome of that comparison.

[@ManCaverTools]

I don't have that yet but once I get it I will do a video on it

[@minnesotaman3]

you gotta get the carbide blades it should never take 30 seconds to cut anything unless its a tree stump also 1 carbide blade will outlast probably 25 regular blades if there's one thing I've learned from using my tools is your tool is only as good as the blade/bit you use

[@ManCaverTools]

this channel uses all types of blades.

[@traceydetwiler9552]

Great video 👍👍👍

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Pop

[@loucifer323]

The blade was dull on the Milwaukee clean cut when it starts smoking that means the blade is dull

[@eliadbu]

Yes when you cut, saw, drill in wood and you see smoke it means that tool is not effectively doing it job and a lot of energy converts to heat rather to desirable work, usually the blade or drill bit is the root of the cause.

[@Jorash_Barison]

That was also knot material. Yes a blade smokes when dull, but in thick wood it can not remove the saw dust and due to the denser grain of the knot territory and the extra sap of it (dried or wet) it binds and smokes as well.

[@ManCaverTools]

the blade was dull for both tools

[@rayshonatkinson5819]

Good video keep up the good work

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you for viewing Rayshon

[@dominicj.spangler5714]

great video!

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank. you Dominic

[@TheBenjammin]

the orbital feature allows the blade to disperse the saw dust better keeping the blade clean thus quicker cut. Thats also why it wasnt smoking on orbital.

[@ManCaverTools]

you are correct on that Benjammin

[@DanielGomez-cf6vk]

Super sawzall all day Milwaukee created the famous sawzall they do it the best!

[@Zozo806]

Look up bosch gsa 18v-32. Its faster than the Milwaukee

[@ManCaverTools]

that thing is a beast

[@svn5994]

@@Zozo806 Lol Bosch.

[@joshfromhilti]

Hey, especially with recip saws, do you feel a difference in how strong the vibrations are during use?

[@bluemantom77]

I like how your scary intro look last year

[@ManCaverTools]

I just throw a few Halloween items in the background

[@mikehigby7897]

Milwaukee invented the reciprocating saw which is how "Sawzall's" got their "sawzall" nickname. The reciprocating saw is still one of their rare USA made tools that they always seemed to put the most engineering into so it's no surprise to me.

[@ManCaverTools]

I need to do more videos on saws

[@Osmosium2507]

Makes total sense that the reciprocating saw is very popular in the US. In wood framed houses with drywall you have a lot of use for it. While the main tool from Hilti are concrete tools, more useful in European houses made from brick. So I guess both have their own home field advantage.

[@martinharris8645]

I think each tool went visibly slower when they went through knots in the wood.

[@ManCaverTools]

Yes they do and I thank you Martin

[@AJDBroski]

I have the standard m18 sawzall n with the 12.0 ah battery it is a beast. So I can’t imagine what the super sawzall will do with a 12.0ah battery

[@sewerat11]

You mention the vibration and the battery I've had two Milwaukee batteries have literally cracked right near the top and I was wondering what caused that and now I understand

[@theTealStory]

Pretty clear giant knot in these first few cuts

[@ManCaverTools]

which makes more stress

[@footlongburrito]

@mancavertools that's what the upgrades wth the new Milwaukee sawzall is, it's beefed up the support with the battery section, and it's a new gen with the reg fuel sawzall not the super sawzall

[@homelee665]

I was going to mention those changes, too.

[@ManCaverTools]

we will see what the new saw can do

[@AL_Lopez_101]

What stand are you using? Love how you are changing it up. It's Tool Magic up in there on the MCT Channel! I watch your video and buy off your recommendation from MCT, JeffOstroff, Tool Boss, Project Farm, & VCG Construction and other channels.

[@ManCaverTools]

its called a Jawhorse

[@JJ-lu6mg]

The real question is which tool & battery will last longer ? I own the Milwaukee and it’s been sent out for for warranty repairs 3 times already.

[@eliadbu]

Hilti usually is built to last and is top notch in terms of quality, but comparing the two is not a good comparison since the two are in entirely different price class.

[@kenb6144]

I heard on another KZbin video, maybe aVe, that Milwaukee tools are engineered to last 30 hours before failing. Hilti was around 1200 hours. Don't quote me on those numbers but the gap was substantial.

[@ManCaverTools]

I think the HILTI would last longer

[@johnadams1052]

Even if the Hilti is sent out for a repair their turnaround is superb tool back on the job site within 3 days Milwaukee on the other hand can take a whole month

[@JJ-lu6mg]

@@johnadams1052 yes that’s very true and as far as overall build quality I’m almost positive that the Hilti is a much better tool. When I was in the Carpenters Union all we used was Hilti. Hilti also would come to the job sites and take tools in for warranty and have a a tool truck with tools you can buy at the job site, just like how Snap On trucks go to all the car dealerships.

[@NoMoneyG]

Great video David! When you were hammering those nails in, I was thinking OMG he's gonna whack the camera with hammer! Lol Talk about 3D! Milwaukee won! Milwaukee is in this year!! hehe:) Yes that has a meaning...

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Greg :)

[@bluemantom77]

Ridgid has orbital mode but already know milwaukee kills ridgid octane reciprocated saw I've never used a HILTI reciprocating saw I've only used their four speed hammer drill thank you for sharing good demonstration

[@ManCaverTools]

we will have to test that out and Roybi has orbital as well

[@bluemantom77]

@@ManCaverTools that would be an epic battle and something that I'm sure a lot of people look forward to watching

[@jeffweber5546]

As far as power tools are concerned Milwaukee's all I buy 💪😎👍

[@ManCaverTools]

Milwuakee is a very good brand

[@georgedavall9449]

Hi Dave and Stacey! I wanted to say Thank You for the well wishes. Son in Law is back out, at home, on meds. Things look promising, just have to wait and see. He has had Asthma for a long time, so that makes a difference. Again Thanks! And hello to Jim Horrocks. I signed off and did not get chance to respond, hence this comment. We all have to live our lives, but we gotta take this Virus seriously. Be safe everybody. As Dave said in one of his videos, “This Virus has to go“ Peace 👍🙏🤗🇺🇸🎃

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you George and be safe

[@E.IS.M.I.A.]

I was not expecting the hammer times

[@ManCaverTools]

lol. I said it worng

[@ngodinhtrung8907]

HILTI..No.1 in the Word... Sir 👍

[@ManCaverTools]

you cant argue with HILTI build quality

[@jakelist5575]

This guy sounds like he's had a few beers! Nice review though!

[@ManCaverTools]

lol

[@jps101574]

Milwaukee's new Fuel Sawzall isn't stronger than the Super Sawzall. It is just an update of the original Fuel model.

[@ManCaverTools]

I cant wait to see what power it has though

[@diagorasmoustakas249]

Without orbital in some cases hilti cut faster (20sec vs 30sec).i will love to that against sr30-36

[@ManCaverTools]

you are correct, that orbital feature is essential though. I think all brands need to add that to all of their saws. Ryobi even has orbital on there saw

[@markdandan6047]

Wanna see the 36v hilti 💯

[@ManCaverTools]

once I get it I will do a video on it

[@meagaindave2049]

GASP! You think the FUEL POWERSTATE motor will give out prior to the Hilti? Gasp! Actually, the battery connection might give before that awesome POWERSTATE with red lithium technology. #justsayin. 😎

[@konamanstudio2447]

Yeah I'm not buying another Saw I got mine will battery and charger for 200 that was more than enough Cheers will the beer may be blessed by the heavens

[@ManCaverTools]

whats up me again Dave. havent read a comment form you in a little while

[@meagaindave2049]

@@ManCaverTools yeah, sorry about that. I've been focusing on playing my electric guitar i got for my birthday in early October. 😎👍

[@konamanstudio2447]

Don't forget the warranty's Hilty has a 20 year warranty and the Milwaukee Has a 5 year warranty ☕🍩

[@meagaindave2049]

Great point, KONAMAN! Hilti warranty is WAY ahead of the curve. Cheers with a beer and God bless! 😁🍻👍

[@ManCaverTools]

that is correct and thank you konaman

[@J.Pelle87]

The hilti looks like it give a lot less vibration while cutting

[@ManCaverTools]

it did but both tools were not that bad on that

[@CHA0TICsanity]

Do I smell a Milwaukee vs XTR battle? They both have orbital features but of course Milwaukee has the far superior batteries.

[@ManCaverTools]

I do need to get the xtr impact and saw

[@kristopherhasenbuhler5393]

Equally used my ass. The 30 second cut on the milwaukee was so when your wife asks why the hell you paid all that money for Hilti you can show her this video😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GingrBreadMan]

kinda wish that youtubers that demo these tools actually used and abused these tools on jobsites. this is mostly a issue with most of the tool review channels not just this content creator so no offense. I think it would be great if someone was out there really testing these tools especially given how much money someone ends up investing in a ecosystem. For example I own so many milwaukee tools it's honestly turned into a problem... and I can confidently say the super sawzall is too powerful for it's own good. I've ruined the tabs for the battery release on every 12 amp and 9 amp I own because of this sawzall. and apparently it's become quite the issue that in milwaukees new sawzall they included metal wear stripes to somewhat combat this issue. The 9 amps had major issues with pre mature battery failure and it caused milwaukee to discontinue it. also on a side note having a 12 amp battery slip out of that super sawzall on your foot isn't fun lol. And this isn't me just bashing milwaukee, I use and abuse there tools, and for the most part I am satisfied with them. But with that said I wouldn't recommend anyone buy the super sawzall if they plan on really putting it through it's paces on a jobsite.

[@ManCaverTools]

insurance reasons is why job sites dont allow that. I tired.

[@GingrBreadMan]

​@@ManCaverTools I guess it depends on the jobsite. I am a Sub contractor so to be completely honest I don't know exactly what rules would even be in place that would prevent someone from doing that. Even if you could lend the tools out with the expectation that you are given the shortcomings of these tools I am sure that would be of great value to anybody who is thinking about one system over another.

[@albertperry221]

When are you going to test the 887 with the new battery and the gen 3 again

[@ManCaverTools]

that will be done next week LIVE :)

[@ceterfo]

So beast mode is faster but I don't like to use it unless I'm handing it to somebody that only has some idea of what they're doing.

[@ManCaverTools]

This milwuakee is slow without that feature but that is why the setting is there, so when you need to go fast you can

[@alekseysurname]

👍

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you :)

[@dariusfrench5]

Threre is no secret ,good tools and good blades, makes the job easier and efficient...💪♥️👍🇫🇷.btw,comfort details makes the différence🤗 Thanks for your video Dave

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Darius

[@MrJKCampione]

Seems like the hilti transferred less vibration to the user than the milwaukee. Is that true? Or was there no difference? Or was the milwaukee smoother?

[@ManCaverTools]

the hilti did have less vibration but the Milwaukee has an orbital feature which makes it a powerful tool

[@chriskathol]

I have used both in the field (sheet metal worker) Hilti is much better. Doing demo one to 2 battery changes a day vs constantly cycling batteries with Milwaukee. I have also burned out 3 Milwaukees, we shall see how Hilti fares. I really like the Hilti tool so far

[@kenharris8576]

Please quit playing around with Dewalt. Get the Kobalt XTR. It will beat anything except the Milwaukee Fuel 18. I own it. And it is awesome. Plus I hate the loose collects on Dewalt.

[@ManCaverTools]

I will be getting more KObalt soon

[@svn5994]

Kobalt won't beat everything.

[@DerFledderer]

Short Stroke VS Long Stroke! :D @14:00

[@levipankey]

Short stroke long stroke 🤣😅🤣👏

[@ManCaverTools]

lol

[@loucifer323]

What's the purpose of orbital if it's slower

[@coreyholmes2229]

It’s not slower. It’s faster but delivers a rougher cut because of the motion of the blade. It doesn’t only go in out but also makes orbital motion as the blade goes in and out.

[@ManCaverTools]

the orbital is faster, a lot faster

[@loucifer323]

No it's not I seen another tool tester do it and it was a second faster and in some cases it was slower, and he also put the super saw saw against the Milwaukee 15amp corded and the corded blew it away so they are not equal to corded

[@AL_Lopez_101]

Gorilla tape that battery to the tool.

[@ManCaverTools]

lol

[@juanc5149]

Too bad the speed dial doesn’t go to 11.

[@ManCaverTools]

lol

[@kenharris8576]

@mancavertools. Get the Kobalt XTR and let's see a real test. It will beat everything except the Milwaukee Fuel 18. It eats dewalt for a light breakfast. Way better than the drill.

[@kenharris8576]

@mancavertools. I meant Kobalt XTR Impact driver.

[@ManCaverTools]

I will be getting more XTR tools

[@nguyent2477]

Only Makita, Only MCT 👍

[@ManCaverTools]

very good and I thank you for viewing Makita :)

[@loucifer323]

The new Milwaukee isn't as powerful as the super it's lighter in weight which everyone complains about the super

[@ManCaverTools]

we will see how the new model is and I thank you for viewing Lou

[@telman5221]

how much money does your channel earn?

[@ManCaverTools]

enough for the tools to pay for themselves most of the time

[@allenjackson1371]

let me guess before watching the video hilti hilti always wins but I was wrong just figured hilti is better or supposed to be good video

[@kenb6144]

Hilti doesn't excel in performance tests. They shine when comparing MTBF, mean time between failure. Hilti tools will outlast the Milwaukee (and everyone else) with respect to number of hours before breaking. And do so by a substantial amount too.

[@ManCaverTools]

no I knew hilti would lose, that orbital feature the Milwaukee has majorly improves the speed of the cut. Milwuakee won. I point out flaws in both tool

[@jemo_hack]

Nice Dave, very well executed. Would be nice to put a square on to the cuts and see how well the dust quality was for each tool. Also run them with their respective blades... ( Yes same blades make them equal, but each one is an ecosystem :)) Ah and one last thing... it’s missing a stress test to see how many cuts you get per battery, and you need to measure batt. temps, it will show a clear indication of how long that part of the tool will last, temps kill the batteries. ;) Keep it the awesome work, really enjoyed it.

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Jose :)

[@Elektrolaborant]

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[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you for viewing

[@mr.e.484]

FIRST

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you Mr E

[@mdavid7149]

Long stroke tho? Na na brudda don't use that caption again lmaoo

[@ManCaverTools]

sorry if I forgot to mention stroke length

[@mdavid7149]

@@ManCaverTools lmaoooo you're crazy & funny keep it up 🤣🤣

[@Mrelectrics06]

some unfair comparisons as that’s the biggest milwaukee recip and the hilti have a 36 volt recip out

[@Mrelectrics06]

but i fully understand that milwaukee won’t last nearly as long as the hilti in a use comparison

[@nicholaslacovara2381]

This could have been a great video if you did better editing.

[@ManCaverTools]

I thank you for viewing Nicholas

[@icebluecuda1]

Yikes. Back to AvE

[@sfsf9954]

Was gonna watch but into music gave me a seizure....

[@ManCaverTools]

then don't watch. my videos might be too extreme for your health conditions. so I recommend you avoid my videos at all costs, for your safety

[@sfsf9954]

@@ManCaverTools ok will do, its just i love to be on the cutting edge of ryobi news...... They are the upper class preferred tool of dollhouse makers the world over....

[@izzyzilla80]

That hammer sucks

[@vojnikjna30]

Cool

[@izzyzilla80]

@@vojnikjna30 mine broke first day they need to make a peace metal hammer like every one else

[@ManCaverTools]

I had no issues with it so far

[@987pulsar]

Fake test!

[@ManCaverTools]

lol. I thank you for viewing PULSAR

[@user2000s]

stop doing cringy intro

[@ManCaverTools]

don't like it? then stop watching my videos. BYEE

[@drewsfjord]

Try the new gen 2 fuel sawzall better than any sawzall I've ever used.