Him or Me - What's It Gonna Be - Paul Revere and the Raiders Better Audio

[@HalEisenberg]

This group rocked, there's no denying it. The writing, the arrangements, the lead singing of Mark - who is without a doubt in my mind one of the finest rock voices ever... They were just a very underrated band probably due to the costumes and on-stage antics, but if you listen to their catalogue, you'll agree that their music ranks right up there with anything that was produced back then - or even now.

[@patszer8314]

What can I say? You have good taste in music. Take care!

[@marciefree]

They were a great group. One of my favorites. Do you still remember gettin home from school in time to watch “Where The Action Is”? I always loved it cuz The Raiders were on. 🤩🤩🤩

[@HalEisenberg]

@@marciefree Yes I do!

[@maxalberts2003]

@@marciefree Yep!

[@roslyndecanio81]

Agreed, great music, but the costumes were a distraction.

[@stevenorsinelli4029]

This generation has no clue how much fun we had during these times! The music was amazing!

[@kenvelickoff4275]

Two things, FUN, and NO CLUE!

[@mitchellhancock3102]

I don't drink but I'll drink to that

[@douglasj.arcuri1370]

Sorry Steve Our boys were dying in rice patties while others rocked at home.

[@SSN515]

@@douglasj.arcuri1370 3 USMC combat tours. I still had fun and would go back in a heartbeat.

[@peterbullock2660]

Couldn't agree more, incredible music non stop, what a time we had.

[@benjuarez9458]

Great bands, great music, the best of time.

[@dweingast]

the lead singer mark lindsey lived around the corner from us, and on a scavenger hunt when i was 11 yrs old, we went and knocked on his door and got his autograph as one of the items on our list Fun times

[@maryspencer6997]

What a great memory. He seems like a nice guy.

[@pigurine]

Sometimes I actually shed a tear. Remembering how great we had it. Music the clothes girls muscle cars drive-in movies $0.25 a gallon gas. And of course Paul Revere and they were a damn good group.

[@IAMmisspixel]

It used to cost me $2.85 to fill up my VW. I feel so privileged to have grown up in the 60s. What an era.

[@elyseeblackstone4597]

@@IAMmisspixel I feel so privileged to have grown up in the 80's. It was a great era too. I feel sorry for kids today.

[@eddiepage1736]

Drive-in theaters, that's it! Bring back drive-in theaters. It's the perfect answer to movie watching in the age of Covid-19. Seriously, bring back the drive-in.

[@patszer8314]

We are a dying generation friend. But what a ride!

[@keithmorse6975]

I caught the tail end of the 60's & all the 70's growing up. It was utopia and we didn't realize it. It takes the anger, turmoil, lawlessness & stupidity of today's youth to make us appreciate what we had. PR & The Raiders were and are awesome! I don't know why acting like you're having fun on stage precludes you from the R & R Hall of SHAME. The Monkees & Raiders should be there in place of some of the (c)rap "artists" that made it in. Signed, Thoroughly Disgusted

[@newerafrican]

The costumes and on-stage antics distracted some people from appreciating their great performances. For most of us, that just added to their appeal.

[@bklynslipnjimmy]

It's all about the music 👍

[@virginiaferraro4844]

I think that's why the RRHOF has ignored them.

[@jefferydowler4655]

Did anybody catch the drummer in the intro. His lift hand twirled the stick, then his right hand flip the stick, and he drops it, while the organ player pointed it out and laughed. These guys were just as fun and funny as they were talented.

[@jjjjjj-sd6yr]

That is so cool that you caught that!

[@jefferydowler4655]

@@jjjjjj-sd6yr I grew up with these guys and loved watching them on shindig, Roy Clark's Band Stand, and others. Back then, Television was still a new thing and a great success to be on it. And this drummer had a awesome grove with cool flash in all the right places. And love that guitar player playing country swing in a rock format in the solo.

[@gregogarrio2173]

That's Phil "Fang" Volk subbing for drummer Mike "Smitty" Smith. Maybe he was ill and/or on his way out of the band/had a backstage blowup!

[@Emon7543]

@@gregogarrio2173 who was playing guitar with Charlie Coe?

[@Emon7543]

Freddy Weller?

[@toinimoore3463]

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Wake Up and Put Them in There !!!

[@MattC78]

The RRHOF is a joke these days.

[@JoaninFlorida]

@@MattC78 It was taken over a long time ago by totally clueless nerds who obviously don't get rock and roll.

[@GUIDOBRAT]

A band very very dear to my heart...1966-'67..GOLDEN years for me..I was in 6th and 7th grade at school...used to rush home every weekday to watch Paul Revere & The Raiders on tv on "Where The Action Is" (hosted by Dick Clark)...while the British Invasion was in full swing, THIS was one American band we were ALL proud of (along with The Beach Boys & The Mamas & The Papas, of course) I always said that Mark Lindsay was the "American Mick Jagger"..I still do. Long Live PR&TR

[@billiefrye9075]

Omg me too couldn't wait til school was out!

[@starlabratcherflannigan1798]

I think we are about the same age, I was never really into the stones or Led Zeppelin then I was more into the Raiders, the Grassroots, Three Dog Night but my top band became Aerosmith Steven Tyler I consider better than Mick Jagger just my opinion

[@nightrunner1456]

The band was from Michigan, I seen them play in our junior high school. I was about 7 years old.

[@penelopeholkema1790]

@@nightrunner1456 Paul Revere and the Raiders were from the west coast not Michigan.🌞

[@nightrunner1456]

One of the band members family live in Michigan, they were on, Coast to Coast radio, and were talking about their home.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

I am so glad I was in my late teens when Paul Revere the the Raiders came on the music scene! Just pure cuteness and great music we could have fun with.

[@Dogheadj]

These guys were much more hip than anybody today could hope to be. I mourn the loss of Paul Revere. A true pioneer.

[@chipgaasche4933]

I liked 'em...but "hip"? I don't think so.

[@oldiesgeek454]

@@chipgaasche4933 I find these guys to be wholesome and refreshing. They don't look stoned like some bands did when performing on TV at the time.

[@chipgaasche4933]

@@oldiesgeek454 i dont disagree, geek..but why address that comment to me. You may think they were wholesome..but "hip"??

[@garyreid2178]

I worked with a relative of Paul Revere.

[@susammarks8502]

These. Are. Great. Memories. We. Had. So. Much. Fun

[@maryspencer6997]

@Susam Marks So true. I miss that era. I was 9 in 1967. We had a great time.

[@phyllisjohnston9047]

Oh my gosh! They have no idea. We had the best of everything!

[@JTRocks4Ever]

Mark Lindsey was an awesome lead singer...and so damn handsome!

[@BRMBeeGeesR1]

This group was WAY under rated. Still can't figure out why they haven't been inducted into the Hall of Fame.

[@steventellers4247]

Because jann wenner is a prick. 3 dog night should also absolutely be in the hof.

[@chipgaasche4933]

Maybe because they were manufactured..much like The Monkees?

[@howie9751]

@@chipgaasche4933 Where did you get that? They were not manufactured, read their bio. But the Temptations were partly manufactured and they're in the HOF.

[@chipgaasche4933]

@@howie9751 i suggest that you research who wrote the songs and who played the sessions..the very definition of manufactured. As for the Hall, i believe half of the acts don't belong.

[@howie9751]

@@chipgaasche4933 No need to, I know about them. But the definition of a manufactured group is a group who's members were brought together by a record company (or TV network) who had not played together before. Usually they are told how to dress, how to move, etc. Many groups have not written their own songs. Many have studio musicians play on artists' records (the producers usually insist on it). But they were a group before the came to the studio. You can't blame the group for the producers' demands on them.

[@jjklulu]

I haven't heard this song in years

[@tomshiba51]

Not only were their songs great, these guys were fun and entertaining.

[@tomparker6210]

EAZY TO GET HOOKED TO THIS SONG! IT'S A GOOD 👍 ONE

[@celestegrl]

how can you not smile and want to dance when you listen to this? :)) Great oldie.

[@a.acevedo]

👍😃 Yep!!

[@johnjarou2357]

one of their best. say what you will,but Paul revere and the raiders rocked.

[@rickreavley3738]

Had all their albums

[@pigurine]

Your damn right

[@pigurine]

Time machine back to the 60s ready to launch All aboard

[@jeffclement2979]

"Say what you will"...I know people thought the costumes and the clowning were corny but They made a string of some of the most badass records In fact in the dictionary under "badass" should be the opening riff from Kicks...right there with the Animals It's My Life

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

@@jeffclement2979 Exactly-you've got to look past the corn to see (hear) some of the best rock music ever recorded.

[@brucehorn1820]

Good musicians and good showmen - a rare combination!

[@nerktwins7023]

Another 60's lost gem.

[@bobpalumbo5253]

Posted this because it is one of my favorite songs ever. It was popular on the radio the same year I started dating my wife....August 1967. Every time I hear it, I am transported back to driving my 1956 Turquoise Chevy Belair on the way over to pick her up for a date. Funny thing, music does that to us. I agree, very underrated band.

[@arthur52353]

Actually the song was played in Hawaii in the early spring of 1967.

[@oldladycosmos4820]

WHEN I WAS IN THE 7th GRADE I HAD THE BIGGEST CRUSH ON PAUL REVERE. "KICKS" IS THE BEST ANTI DRUG SONG AND SHOULD BE REVISED...LOL

[@rangerrick222]

Thank you for doing so

[@omeara28]

Thanks, dude

[@rickkernell2486]

I always though that the '56 was a much better design than the'57.

[@Sandra-cm1du]

I love music of the 1960's...Paul Revere and the Raiders were a great band....lots of fun to listen too.

[@altfactor]

Paul Revere and The Raiders got their first big break in the summer of 1965 when they were signed as regulars on "Where The Action Is", a weekday TV show produced and hosted by Dick Clark (although Clark's hosting was usually through voice-overs), which was shot outdoors on-location (usually, but not always) at various spots in the Los Angeles area.

[@johnhenni2808]

I didn't know that Mark Lindsay co-wrote this song with Terry Melcher. I always loved this song, and I remember feeling a bit cheated when my local radio stations didn't give this great song very much play.The popular radio station in my area had really supported their earlier singles, but not this one. I couldn't understand why not. The Ups and Downs of pop stardom?!

[@sheilawilliams495]

I have loved Mark Lindsay since I was 14. I still love him. He was one sexy rock and roller!

[@virginiaferraro4844]

10 for me. My older sister and I watched ACTION every day. We both fell for Mark. ❤❤

[@ToiniMoore]

I lived in Warrenton,Oregon But sure never saw them in person that’s ok I loved the music

[@rolo1955]

Remember first time I saw this amazing band, 1966 on "Where The Action Is" 2019 still hooked on them.

[@lisabullock7461]

,"Oh Baby come on where the Action is " after Summer school 8th grade. " oh Baby Co.e on zlet me take you where the Action is " smilexo 📻🎤🎶🎼🎵🎺🎷🥁💃🔥😍❤💯🎹💋

[@eoj2495]

They were regulars on Where the Action is.. A lot of goofing around, having a good time

[@billloraff9132]

Those were the days when we had fun every day.

[@keithelster8858]

This song was actually recorded by the Revere/Lindsay/Valley/Fang/Smitty lineup just proir to their split. Their only appearance on the Ed Sullivan show was the only appearance of Freddy Weller as guitarist with the "classic" lineup, doing this song.

[@Ballenxj]

These memories are Golden! Thumb up for these guys.

[@kevinjohnson4599]

1,000% AGREED because this was when music was music. Today's music is CRAP & isn't worth a DIME.

[@jimp.7286]

The music I grew up with as a grade-schooler in the 60's. Mono am radio as a kid and I was into all of it early-on. Used to watch them on where the action is in b@w. Music was mostly upbeat then. Even mom liked this stuff. I hate to say it but I feel bad for kids now. If it isn't rather depressing it's about really bad things, hate for others or there's no melody at all. Just beats. But they're simply creating music that they relate to. Again, kind of sad. Terry Melcher, (Doris Day's son), rip! Thanks for helping to make the music of my childhood.

[@Johnny-lr5jt]

One of the greatest guitar intros EVER.

[@dlandrews]

Mark Lindsay = Tall Dark Handsome & one of the best voices ever in rock & roll history!

[@johnlenkes256]

Paul Revere and the Raiders had a sound of their own and it was great. I discovered this group as I turned older and is still one of my favorite bands of all time.

[@michelvigneres7033]

simply in the top ten of all times pop fusion with rock song !

[@lwc2009]

this tune still rocks today!!!!

[@thelastperfectman4139]

So true! Amazing rock song. As many have commented, the costumes and antics may have deceived people into dismissing them as bubble gum but they were tremendous rockers of the time with a garage-rock quality combined with pop hooks and high level musical talent.

[@edhollingsworth2335]

Saw them perform in Peterborough Ontario in 1967. They were amazing!

[@joegongora2200]

I remember listening to this wonderful song. Around 1967-1968 when I was in Elementary School and growing up those were wonderful times but tough times as well. The way I would lose myself was listening to the radio. That's how I coped with my problems back then. Music was what kept me going. Over the years I also heard this song and others as well. Jim Morrison said and sang w/Doors When he sang , When The Music Is Over. The said in that song "That the music is your only friend". He was right because music is wonderful. This is a great song, who is still listening to this song and Paul Revere & The Raiders in 2020 ?

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

I know, its only rock & roll, but I Like It.

[@allenkracalik7662]

One of their better numbers. In spite of their popularity, I never cared for much of their output. And I was in Lake Geneva, WI when they walked out on a highly publicized Labor Day gig at a ski resort. They pulled out in their bus just as hundreds of youths began lining up, throwing the whole town up for grabs by their action. Am I the only one who doesn't think Mark Lindsay, good looks aside, is a very good singer? And now that Paul Revere has passed away, I'm informed that a group is performing as "Paul Revere's Raiders." No original members, I presume, though the group that appeared regularly on Dick Clark's Where the Action Is tv show were not the original lineup. Pretty much a forgotten minor hit, their first chart success was an instrumental titled Like Longhair. A pre-British Invasion release, the title referred to the long hair or wigs of classical composers like Mozart and Beethoven.

[@bloscoe1234]

I was 12 yrs old when this song was popular. Still dig it to this day! What kinda songs will this present-day generation be able to reminisce about? Justin Beiber tunes? I feel sorry for all of them!

[@laurajames9855]

Love these guys since the 60’s

[@wilrobles9824]

I'm grateful for KZbin. Arousing memories are only clicks away.

[@Cissy2cute]

I don't why, but I just love this song. It's sort of a lesser known one of their but I think it really rocks!

[@pankfan60]

You said why you love it: It really rocks! I'll say! Straight ahead rock and roll from the Raiders!

[@jimborgmann178]

Simple...it rocks! One of my favs from the Raiders!

[@rolo1955]

pankfan60 "cissy" it peaked at number 5 on the Billboard charts right in the middle of the British Invasion!

[@bufb]

It is my favorite by them

[@a.acevedo]

@@bufb A great example of what a perfect song is. Add in the revolutionary zeal and it can't be beat! Love it! 👍

[@michaeloconnell2684]

Innocence died sometime in the 60's, but it was great while it lasted.

[@countrygal4205]

Love the White pants.

[@kevinmhilding]

I love Almost ALL Rock & Roll and I have many favorites, but this has to be THE coolest band of all time. Everything about them was COOL!

[@starlabratcherflannigan1798]

Even though there was a nasty ass war that nobody wanted to be and going on. Musically this was the the best we had fun and it's shaped Generations

[@Classic.Hits-335.artists]

Loved their sound. they were "Where the Action Is!" Someone to fight back against the British Invasion... fun times!

[@jeffdowler9130]

I love that telecaster playing the Nashville style solo. And that drummer doing singe hand rolls. Too Much man!

[@Cryo837]

How the hell did this GREAT song not end up on their Greatest Hits album instead of the cheesy Legend of Paul Revere? Brilliant!!!

[@LarryMcNeely-me4px]

Kicks a message that still stands true today.

[@cameronlarsen2021]

I find it funny how people complain about all the lip-synching going on in the present days. There are no amplifiers, no mics on the drums, no cables coming from the guitar or bass (this was before they had wireless packs for guitars), no stage monitors and at about 1:34 the drummer stops playing yet you can clearly hear the cross stick (or rim click as it is sometimes known) on the snare drum. So in other words lip-synching or in this case instrument-synching has been going on for a long time. By the way I owned at least one Paul Revere and the Raiders albums back in the '60s so not picking on them.

[@velvetbees]

Those look like painted paper plates on the wall. It's so fun and unpretentious. Perfect in the 1960's.

[@leemark63]

Probably their best song.

[@michaelleroy9281]

It is their best song

[@erickriebel4366]

72 here I got to watch these guys play live add a music place called the music casters that was in Riviera Beach in the late sixties and they played there several times very excellent group I can still remember going down there on my motorcycle

[@roypruysvdhoeven1855]

NOW THAT IS ROCK AND ROLL !!! PA REVERE AND THE RAIDERS FEATURING MARK LINDSEY 👍👍👍👍

[@smhmay1973]

I always enjoyed the way the Raiders cut up during their songs! Still do! Thanks for posting this!

[@johnhenni2808]

I remember that when this record was released in Spring of '67, the Raiders' singles were coming one after the other at a furious rate! They were catching fire bigtime!

[@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244]

I really like this song. I was glad to run across it, here. I grew up in Northern California. They were playing live at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk all the time in the summer of 1965-6. There was a local show called "Where the Action Is," that televised the shows. Another popular guy was Keith Allison. But Paul Revere and the Raiders were in Sixteen Magazine right off, with Mark Lindsay as the big heartthrob. I think this song sounds like early POCO before POCO. It could have been a Buffalo Springfield song.

[@MrAutoslim]

The guitarist & bassist are awesome! Great sync up moves!

[@GuySkellenger]

Kicks is one of the great coming of age songs of all time. I remember they had a show in the 60s. Saw them in a dive bar in 1976 or so

[@mrbag60]

If MTV had existed in 1966 vs. 1981 these guys would have been superstars. Mark knew how to mug for the camera plus the rest of the guys had a collective sense of humor of not taking themselves too seriously but were great musician's, nonetheless.

[@pillroller88]

I liked the Raiders back then - but I loved the paper plates! I still use them till this day! I don't think those paper plates get the recognition they deserve.

[@sherryshane9797]

I was in Europe France when some of these came out such a fun time

[@dianemartin5961]

I got to see them 2 times at the Elkhart County Fair. Too bad Mark Lindsay was not with them then. Mark had to go off on his own and he cut off his pony tail too. RIP to Paul Revere. Your group gave me many good memories from the Where the Action Is and Happening TV shows. I loved your music. You guys did rock. You were so funny and outrageous. Thank you .

[@elcasey]

I'm 41 (in 2021) and I know about, and love, this band because of my dad. And now I'm part of the "old generation"! Jeez ... :D

[@johnhenni2808]

Mark Lindsay had very good looks and an excellent voice and was a teeny bopper fave in the '60's!

[@stacyward4309]

Those outfits are fantastic! Wow is all that I can say

[@PAULLONDEN]

Terry Melcher knew how to construct some brilliant 60's pop.

[@joedebaun4547]

Mark Lindsey lived at the residence prior to Sharon Tate.

[@roslyndecanio81]

Doris Day's son!

[@tlp8757]

Just what the doctor ordered during these effed up times; Paul Revere and the Raiders! Rock on gents.

[@mjcamck]

Hello, All. I play these tunes when I want to be reminded of a time when our society was far more civil, more relaxed & more accepting of each other ("do your own thing"). Virtually no precious time was wasted calling each other ugly names & pointing politically correct fingers. 60's lyrics encouraged respect for ALL human beings. My husband & I made sure our children grew up hearing these 60's pop, folk & folk-rock classics with their feel good, optimistic sound. Maybe, if more parents follow suit, we, as a nation, could get back there again. Peace.

[@marklegrave1866]

Martha Mack Ya, would be nice, and get ride of the stupid that we seem to be looking at ,everyday now.

[@mjcamck]

Mark Le Grave - Hello, Mark. I appreciate the supportive post. I am holding on to the hope that positive lyrics and the warmer more mutually respectful feelings people had for each other in the 60's will return for the sake of our children and their children. At least with KZbin, these gems are readily available. Best Wishes to you.

[@northernlight696]

+Martha Mack Well said - I total agree. I miss the good old sixties!

[@brucehajost4476]

Right on Martha!!! :)

[@mjcamck]

+Bruce Hajost - Thank you. Peace to ALL.

[@dispLock]

I was a closet Raiders fan and I still enjoy those clowns, they could always make you smile! I am glad I grew up in the late 60's and early 70's they were the best of times!

[@d.jensen5153]

Watched them perform this song on stage at the Western Idaho Fair Grounds when I was a kid. They were SO cool and SO funny.

[@petersclafani4370]

Ppl mock the 60s. But in truth it was the greatest decade. So muck fun. Except for Vietnam.

[@toinimoore3463]

Paul Revere and the Raiders were So Much Fun !😃😍😌

[@gwwayner]

I must admit that Paul Revere and the Raiders were a guilty pleasure back in the day, and this was my favourite tune among their many hits. These guys were hot looking and one of the original boy-bands. Their music should be re-mastered for higher sound quality and re-issued as a box set.

[@IAMmisspixel]

gwwayner LOL! I loved them, too. Still have their albums, even. But I was way too cool to let anybody know!

[@garydunn1451]

I had this album back in the day one of the best albums of all time

[@Reespeck4all]

A lot of hits, fun to watch, and they entertained you!

[@jeffdowler9130]

Love that drummers single rolls at the end and that Nashville guitar playing in the soloing. Can't be beat!

[@GreasyFilms-qc1xo]

I'm glad the new Tarantino movie had a lot of Paul Revere and the Raiders. A very underrated band.

[@jamesewanchook2276]

one of the top bands or the 60's!

[@mattanderson6336]

The best American band during the ‘60’s. This was their best song.

[@maryromanek6683]

This and Just Like Me are my two favorite Raiders songs, and I love a lot of Mark's solo stuff. As far as them and The Monkees and whoever else being packaged, so was most of Motown! But I love almost all of that, too...

[@patriciajones4761]

My favorite group in Jr. High. I adored Fang!!!

[@olmose]

Gosh this brings back good memories! Saw them in concert twice in the 60's. One of the best live bands for sure.

[@toinimoore3463]

Tell it to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame They Derserve to be in there !

[@gregkreinberg3268]

Love it and them . My sister was crazy about Mark.

[@JohnW1711stock]

Watched, "Where the Action Is", after school. They were on that TV show.

[@su-rv2uq]

They hosted it.

[@jillianclark4076]

And Karen Marcus and I were often at the tapings. Paul lived blocks from our Northridge Junior High School, we would walk past on our way home. They were our hometown garage band!! And dont get me started about how gorgeous Phil and Mark were...

[@michaelleroy9281]

This was my all time favorite from them. 1967

[@johnhenni2808]

In 1966 & '67 the Raiders had a skew if great songs and big hits. Reports are that they were very personable, good guys to work with!

[@LauraSnyderseagle3]

I also grew up loving all Paul Revere and the Raiders songs. Rest in peace Paul Revere you and your group gave us a lot of great songs. Thankyou

[@Sandra-cm1du]

You can tell these guys had alot of fun on stage.

[@gary9426]

The Raiders ROCKED! how are they still not in the R&R Hall of Fame...smh.

[@1taliaoct]

GOOD!! BACK IN THE GOOD OLE DAYS JAMS!!! MISS THOSE DAYS WHEN I WAS JUST A KID!!

[@joemysterymusic]

The energy, arrangement, singing and playing in this song are amazing. If this were a cut from a Beatles album like Revolver, it would fit in nicely. It is that damn good. Raiders were a partial answer to the British invasion, no doubt.

[@lindamcdonald6560]

LOVE this song! Thanks for uploading. These guys are so classic sixties! Mark Lindsay was so damn good, they all were!

[@rslitman]

I love the way that Freddy Weller on lead guitar and Charlie Coe on bass are dancing to the music. Joe Corero, Jr., is the drummer. This was after Phil "Fang" Volk, Mike "Smitty" Smith, Drake Levin, and Jim "Harpo" Valley had left the group.

[@ftsjr]

PR & the R always had the best outfits of any 1960s band.

[@mikestyles499]

I thought Paul Revere & the Raiders were going to replace the Beatles bc they were so popular at our High School back in 1966.

[@dakert40]

and then The Monkees sneaked in. I am 10 years younger and I thought the 70s were great for music I can just imagine the 60s, hearing one great song after another. :-)

[@henrypym4619]

How on God's green earth is Paul Revere and the Raiders not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Rappers. folkies, and so many one hit people are in but not them. That's a disgrace.