What Happened to Eminem's D12?

D12, a Detroit based rap group fronted by Eminem, was formed in the mid ’90s and rose to mainstream prominence in the early 2000s. Both of their albums, Devils Night and D12 World, went platinum and their single “My Band” reached number one on the rhythmic Top 40. But as time passed, the group slowly became less active and in 2018 Eminem released the apology track to his D12 members titled “Stepping Stone” which ends with the bar “it’s not goodbye to our friendship but D12 is over.”
D12 was one of the hugest rap groups of the aughts. They were all super talented and came with a co-sign from the highest-selling rapper of all time. Despite this, none of them gained any traction as solo acts.
So what went wrong?
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[@ANineOne]

Devil's Night remains one of the most rebellious hip-hop albums of all time. Revelation was something else! D12 forever.

[@timothyshorts8768]

Revalation got me through middle school

[@dongiv196]

@@timothyshorts8768 i just wanna live my life...everyday a celebration 🍾

[@ANineOne]

@@timothyshorts8768'I slap teachers; b*tch I'm not reading it!'

[@m3rri3n36]

Revelation got me through school as well

[@MrSoutherhospitality]

@@timothyshorts8768 I listened to that song not that long ago and as a adult it amazed me how relatable that song was as a 30 year old now I know people who was living that life at that time

[@ajtaylor8750]

"Like Toy Soldiers" is still one of the best Eminem songs of his career. Also, the music video makes the song hit even harder and D12 was definitely something special for the time they were together.

[@CASSOBLVCK]

That video is crazy considering the whole proof thing. Rip proof

[@lyricsanonymous9036]

That shit is wack AF

[@MarkHallOfFame]

@@lyricsanonymous9036 I truly question the musical sanity of anyone who thinks “Like Toy Soldiers” was trash!!!

[@lyricsanonymous9036]

@@MarkHallOfFame Never said it was trash, I said it was wack 🙄 and I would definitely question your musical taste if you think it wasn't. The marching drums and the sample he uses for the hook are wack AF. Not a fan of his flow or delivery on that song either 🤷‍♂️

[@callurfriends]

@@lyricsanonymous9036 ur weird asf

[@StephenThePisces]

I think once proof passed, Em did not care anymore.

[@iceyroo]

Not that, he said on stepping step once proof died so did the group.

[@arry5432]

@@iceyroo yeah, he could barely handle himself for 3 years, let alone a successful rap group

[@iceyroo]

@@arry5432 he’s been on top for almost 20 years

[@NoChillAustin]

Did not care??? Bro his best friend had died. I think he had a lot more on his mind than doing something with D12 at the time.

[@StephenThePisces]

@Iceyroo yea. That's why I said [("ONCE PROOF PASSED" )] you see it?😒

[@RatchetCoon]

D12’s Devil’s Night is a criminally underrated project.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yes

[@fatxbull6259]

Shits trash

[@kevindoesgaming77]

Yo that stuff was sick i loved american psycho

[@kevindoesgaming77]

@@fatxbull6259 to each their own

[@jesuspernia8031]

In that album, Eminem was in top shape. He was at his very best there. Yes even better than MMLP, SSLP, or Eminem Show.

[@SamadSaVage]

Denaun is way more than a hype-man and producer, He’s a creative genius, he produced a lot of stuff for 50 and unit and get Rich or die trying days and is a big part of the creative process of songs he works on

[@coryblanco426]

Yup he produced PIMP and Stunt 101

[@koffiged]

Bruh, genius???

[@goalsquad8400]

@@koffiged listen to the just don't give a fuck instrumental and tell me a genius didn't make it

[@geovanni888drumer]

Give that man his flowers 👏🏽

[@Louis-yg3qr]

Glad we are living in the times where we can get to know these backend artists. Noone would,'ve known or appreciated these artists back then

[@toneriggz]

Proof’s death was the end of the group. It reminds me of Pun dying and that being the end of the original Terror Squad lineup. Proof was the glue of the group, the way that Pun was the glue of the original Terror Squad. I still remember the day that Devil’s Night came out. I bought the CD at the local Coconuts record store, right before I headed to school to take the Spanish regents exam. That same morning, Ice-T was in my neighborhood shooting an episode of Law & Order. My friend met him. I didn’t see him, I just saw the trailers on the street.

[@SlickArmor]

Proof was more than the glue D-12 was his baby.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Best track on Devil's Night was American Psycho.

[@SlickArmor]

@@shinbakihanma2749 I prefer American psycho II.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

@@SlickArmor No, I said the BEST track on Devil's Night was American Psycho.

[@SlickArmor]

@@shinbakihanma2749 I can read. I just said I liked 2 better.

[@BeeKay5150]

Living just outside of Detroit back then, you couldn't stop at an intersection without hearing one of those CDs playing in someone's car. Anything Eminem touched around here was guaranteed to go platinum. You might run into Proof at a store or Kuniva at a restaurant. When Proof died, around here, it was a huge deal. At a time when, every week, there was a new one hit wonder rap song and catch phrase on the radio, we always had Eminem and D12. Those were good days.

[@nicktraversrap9470]

Boy can i say a lot about D12. The Dirty Dozen. Detroit 12. D Twizzy. When i was 13, i was getting into hop hop. I had just purchased the MMLP on CD. I had loved the song ‘under the influence’ with d12. I was curisous about the group and asked as much people as I could. Nothing had appeared to be known about the group. About a year later Devils night came out. I was in love. Everything about it. The members, beats, record, art. Loved them. Thanks for bringing back some memories

[@user-fh9xk7no9t]

thank you for taking me back To the simpler times and how much I loved the d12 album when it first came out when I was 14yrs old.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

SHIT. CAN. HAPPEN! SHIT. CAN. HAPPEEEEEEEN!!

[@D50Music]

It’s the greatest hip hop group debut in the 00’s in my opinion, the hardest hitting since N.W.A

[@prestongower7800]

D12 was back when Eminem was a beast now he's been trash I don't care what anyone says all mainstream music has been trash since 2010 2011

[@shinbakihanma2749]

@@prestongower7800 You're one of the few people who are telling the truth. Mainstream "hip hop" is trash, and has been so for well over a decade. Eminem is in the trash category nowadays. These lames sniffing this dude's boxer drawers like he's the same artist from 20 years ago. He hasn't made a great album since Marshall Mathers LP.

[@carlospool6276]

Searching for Jerry Garcia was a badass album RIP proof

[@Billy_Carter]

Proof's solo album was great. The album art was fire too.

[@liquidgeorge]

Searching for Jerry Garcia? Man, that album was something else. 🔥

[@91Definite]

I love “I Miss the Hip-Hop Shop” more though! Something about that joint really stuck out to me 💯

[@matthewtaylor386]

It’s pathetic how somebody can be to intellectual for mainstream media

[@backatitagain20]

Classic

[@lethalassassin1754]

@@matthewtaylor386 Agreed. It’s because mainstream audiences are usually a lot of stupid people who eat up anything that’s on the radio. They don’t want people hearing someone like Tupac or Biggie in today’s world they want people dumbed down.

[@keith819]

A great group that inspired a whole wave of music. Odd Future, Zack Fox, JPEG... The Underground EP is still one of my favorite albums. These were friends making songs, not some super group. RIP Proof!

[@bacchus8081]

I won Devil's Night from some random radio contest I signed up for when i was like 16. "How many members are in D12?" was the question. Never thought about it for another second till I got the CD send in the mail, just as ma asked me to vacuum the house. I put that shit in my discman and bro, that vacuum session was bumpin

[@fungi42021]

nice

[@eleazar6831]

Nice

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

When Proof died D12 essentially fell apart

[@joshingram071]

D12 was already man down after Buggs died. Him dying ended d12, hurt shady records, & changed Detroit's rap scene forever

[@CSpad]

@@joshingram071 Bugz was killed in 99' way before Em, Shady records & D12 blew up globally. Em didn't officially join D12 till after Bugz died. Proof was the glue that kept d12 & Em together. But, even Bazarre talks about him & Proofs partying & hotel life took away from the drive for them to be successful on their own. It's Iike anything in life & especially in sports & music. Talent will only get you so far. It might get you the platform to launch from, but unless you have that internal drive & grind, you'll never maintain it. Em & 50, compared to D12 & G-unit members are an example of that.

[@91Definite]

Definitely! And “Time A Tell” shows how special Proof was 😔💯

[@skullyboi04]

Proof died that’s what happened

[@backatitagain20]

Yep

[@bosanac4835]

"Good die young" off of D12 world hits deep man they were so troubled and lost 2 of their best friends ... keep in mind how young they were when they recorded that track yet so much pain flows though it... i wish all the D12 members only the best they guided me thorugh my youth RIP Bugz RIP Proof ❤

[@Hains22]

“Devil’s Night” was criminally overshadowed by Jay-Z’s Blueprint and Nas’s Stillmatic. It was that damn good

[@bushidobot8251]

I don’t think that’s a criminal act

[@timothyshorts8768]

Not to mention Missys album and lil Jon and the eastsideboyz put yo hood up all 4 both of those plus the ones you mention dominated 01 also I remember Fight Music got banned because of 911

[@dongiv196]

Eminem had already catapaulted....the people didn't want to watch another Eminem (comeup) show.

[@Phosphor_Sco]

@@timothyshorts8768 wtf why did it get banned because of 9/11?

[@timothyshorts8768]

@@Phosphor_Sco because 911 was very sad time it was like world stopped a song like that was too much to bear at the time I hated it that it banned but I understood

[@dankthegank4315]

I understand Eminem doesn’t want to hog the spotlight but he’s part of the the group, he should’ve stayed on the songs.

[@e-heromanny4348]

I feel like either way ,it would have ended the same, especially with Proof dying. Not enough of Em’s fans gave the rest of D12 a shot so him being involved would have kept the group more afloat but their solo careers would have gone about the same despite their potential

[@turtleanton6539]

@@e-heromanny4348 should been an EM/proof album

[@jhdivina]

if em stayed with d12, even if the song was truly good, it'll be mostly credited for having em in the song. the best move for d12 was to have success outside of em. only then can d12 move out of em's shadow

[@antoniomontana2034]

Kon Artist aka Denaun Porter is still around Em often, I believe he still does alot behind the scenes

[@rickytr3y]

Yeah he's a great producer who works with a lot of different artists

[@sambelyea678]

he’s his hype man

[@yazzedalbugami5018]

They used to be roommates

[@CSpad]

Yeah. He's his touring hype man & closest producer he works with now... he also produced his 1st album Infinite.

[@husseinandout3867]

Back in 2001, I used to have sooo much fun hitting the bong and listening to the whole Devil's night album, while driving around in my small neighborhood at night (It was not in the US so there was no cops to pull us over, they didn't care lol)

[@dman1417]

Man I miss D12. As far as I’m concerned, “Devil’s Night” is a classic album and the dirty dozen was one of the most unique rap groups ever formed. Unfortunately I think the death of Proof was ultimately the death of D12 as well, they were never the same after that.

[@firstnamemclastname9490]

"As for me and D12 we feel like "fuck rap" it feels like our general just died in our lap" - Eminem, 2006 on Difficult

[@chrisortiz8072]

I think they would of kept going if Eminem was willing.

[@chreed5837]

One of the most forgotten underrated and under appreciated dope groups. I don’t understand the hate they got. Their first album is a classic and d12s world was dope af too. Btw Swift was the illest in my opinion next to Eminem.

[@GiantsJets718]

Definitely agree! I think some people will say proof he was good but I partly think em being close to him had a lot of people thinking proof was the second best. I was always impressed with Swifts verses

[@JohnDee633]

I don’t remember them getting hate

[@Phosphor_Sco]

I've never heard any hate towards them besides bizarre's lazy bars

[@dman1417]

@@Phosphor_Sco I wouldn’t be surprised if some ppl hated them, as their whole brand of shock-rap lyrics and dark humor was pretty over the top and explicit. They said some crazy shit. But that’s also what made the group so cool, it was 6 rappers with crazy, psychotic alter-egos (ie. Slim Shady) who acted out their satirical fantasies in their music. Always loved the dirty dozen concept

[@Phosphor_Sco]

@@dman1417 true but realistically I doubt there's many hip hop heads that could hate them, but the general public outwith those with passion for the genre would definitely hate them, I know a lot of my family don't like them😂

[@junkscorpion7011]

Whats crazy D12 never got their street credibility in hip hop even tho they had STREET CREDIBILITY.

[@lyricsanonymous9036]

Cause they were clowns

[@junkscorpion7011]

@@lyricsanonymous9036 right

[@lyricsanonymous9036]

@@junkscorpion7011 Glad you agree 🤜

[@oreogd1500]

@@lyricsanonymous9036 you always hating 💀 you definitely pressed.

[@lyricsanonymous9036]

@@oreogd1500 Eminem is always hating, is also pressed? 🤷‍♂️

[@trayisraw]

R.i.p Proof. I think d12 was one of those groups where if you get all of them in the studio together in their prime that chemistry they had was real.

[@agoatnamedscape]

Thank you. You wouldn’t believe how hard it is (for me at least) to find unbiased analyses of Hip Hop topics. I appreciate that fam. Therefore, your efforts have earned you the highest honor I can bestow on this platform: a new subscriber.

[@hiphopmadness]

Appreciate that man ❤️

[@licittofficial]

I met Swift and Obie Trice in the gold coast a few years ago when they toured for the Cheers album anniversary. That was a highlight of my life. Swift and Kon Artist (Mr Porter) were my favourite D12 members. I got to chill with them in the green room cause i was friends with every one of the opening artists and their security. Swift, Obie and all of us were debating who won the Pusha T, Drake beef. Swift said Drake cause he had funnier bars, and to him winning a battle is to make the crowd laugh at your opponent. But Obie sided with Pusha T. While Swift was posing taking a photo with a chick, i said a line from my favourite verse of his "Hailies Revenge" while he was smiling, he said the next line through his teeth. After, he came over and we rapped the whole verse together! It was a dream come true! Rapping one of my favourite verses with one of my favourite rappers! And Swift said it was Obie who actually came up with the hook for that song, which is a dope piece of trivia

[@goalsquad8400]

How did Obie come up with the Hook for Doe Rae Me when it goes "ma ma say ma ma ma ma ma macosa" which is an old Eminem/outsidaz track?

[@goalsquad8400]

@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth Eminem said he has never said one word on a track he didn't write, that was obviously a reference to an old song he did

[@goalsquad8400]

@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth yeah I think he meant he came up with making Doe Rae me the hook

[@licittofficial]

@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth @GoalSquad there is more too the hook than the "doe rae mi" and "ma ma macosa" parts where Em is dissing Ja. Swift never specified if Obie actually wrote it, or just came up with the idea to incorporate the doe rae mi part into the diss as a hook. My guess is the latter, but its possible it could be the first. I could see Obie potentially writing something like that. I have other funny stories from that night. The DJ of the opening acts and i have a good mutual friend and she warned me about him, saying the dude was fxxkin crazy. On stage he was drinking all sorts liquor using a literal real human skull as a cup. (All while Obie and Swift were still performing) When i went out back to the green room to get some air, the DJ legit brought a big ass staple gun and was convincing people to let him staple their nipples. The dude said "yo dare me to put a staple through my balls" everyone laughed like "no! fxxx that!" But he did it anyway and stapled his balls to his leg. My friends who opened got their nipples stapled and was like "fxxx yeah!! Staple gang!!!" I was like "fxxx that, i aint tryna impress anyone, nobody stapling my titties"

[@dougiedoug8994]

This is a good video, but I want to point out, even though it has some truth about Eminem's white audience only liking Eminem's music and not necessarily Hip-Hop, I also think a lot of people who has that same thought process about Eminem's fanbase also overlook how many white people in his fanbase that love Hip-Hop because he spark their interest in the first place. Even the former white fans that are really into hip-hop and stop listening to him since they were kids, at the end of the day, he still got them into Hip-Hop. Both things could be true.

[@joaooliveira185]

Yeah i feel like to a lot of people (doesnt matter the race) Eminem had a huge impact because he was a gateway to hip hop. I would never heard my favourite artists in hip hop because that music was never played here in Portugal if it wasnt for Em

[@redbluebird6490]

I went to a middle school dominated by Whites, and all my White friends would be the type to say "I don't like rap but I like Eminem", this was in the early 2010's when he came out with Relapse. Now regarding this, I don't even think they really liked Eminem. They just fucked with the hits and never a full album. Also, Eminem's current fanbase is not the same as it was years ago years ago, so I am curious what the current generation thinks of him. And regarding White fans, with the rise of trap rap, most rap concert's filled with White people.

[@amr4336]

@@redbluebird6490 It is because his hits are pop rap type rather than hardcore . This is why so many people(regardless of colour) listen to his hits . I’m not exactly his fan but I do listen to handful of Eminem songs(along with many other artists), most of the songs that I listen to are hits but some of them are from inside the album as well. Plus he inspired a lot of rappers in my country

[@e-heromanny4348]

Oh Eminem and Linkin Park were gateways for White kids to get into hip hop more

[@oneyewitness3823]

@@e-heromanny4348 really I was around then and 2pac and snoop where actually the gateway...you do know before there was an eminem there was a big, Dre, and l.l. all huge...only difference was there was good rock music then and while I despise country it had moments, as well...I don't know about this agenda that white kids like eminem and not rap(in that early era) but it inticed them more to try doing it...they were already listening and supporting it or you'd of never heard deathrow or nwa...why wouldn't the beastie Boys be the beginning if that's the case? Damn people cant let this black/white/brown shit go, at all...I guess Hispanics loved fat Joe and didn't care for the terror...well they're all Hispanic so no...or everyone loved 50 but not real hip ho...no they're all black...but it can fall on him because he is the outlier...its all trash anymore so does it even matter at this point?

[@chiefredeye7355]

Big respect to D12. RIP Proof

[@sirraldnus8590]

Moral of the story Don't be in the same group as a mega superstar

[@khalyleedwards7735]

Unless you don't like the spotlight and cool with being his hypeman

[@garyfreeman896]

Moral of the story is don't get in arguments in bars over pool tables.

[@blobbydigital5610]

Having a talented friend only gets you so far. The D12 story.

[@125henni]

Loved this group man.

[@iPodTouchMan21]

That era never died. Speaking as one of those kids, it’s all underground

[@KristopherWilliams_tahmson]

That was a work of art of a video. Great writing and inferences

[@qsmooth7805]

Great video it’s very sad what happened to proof And the group was never the same after that

[@R0m0n3]

I believe that without Proof there was no one to really push D12 and ofc the death had a huge impact on Eminem.

[@swaggsavage313]

That's pretty much what Em said on Stepping Stone

[@beyondthe3dtv446]

I had good middle school memories listening to them, what a time 😁🙌

[@shinzoux5912]

Not harbouring bitterness despite constant harassment from "fans" over the years means the D12 boys are legit stand-up.

[@tinkiwinks]

What happened? In a nutshell, Proof is dead (RIP), Bizarre wasn’t good, Mr. Porter was their producer guy anyway (but he was nice), and Swift & Kuniva were underrated.

[@RatchetCoon]

Bizarre wasn’t good? The man was ahead of his time.

[@seinfeldfan442]

You did a great job with this video

[@echad6259]

I played their first album to death.

[@litneyloxan]

Eminem’s song about Proof makes me cry every time. I think his passing hit Em hard

[@lobo_solo214]

Devils Night AND D12 World were both great albums. I'm blessed to have gotten to see them live at the Anger Management 3 tour in Dallas at the smirnoff center. RIP Proof n RIP Bugz🙏🏼 🕊 . Kon Artist imo was one of the better producers associated with Shady, people forget he produced young buck's "look at me now". "Blow my buzz" "purple pills" "40oz" "how come?" "My band" "fight music" etc just a few of my favorite.

[@skarrerx8493]

The title for this video pretty much encapsulates it. The video isn’t called what happened to D12, rather what happens to Eminem’s d12

[@comment5398]

What happened to them is unique just like what happens to every other artists and group is unique but it's still the same at the end of the day. Times change people change and that's just life. The people alive that are big fans during an artist rise to the top will always be their core audience. Kids listening will always hold a special place for him but they will get older and grow into something else. The older generation listening to them may light their music but they will never really be their favorites cuz they had a favorite when they were younger. The people in the middle who are around the same age as the artist will love them in a different way and when they get older they will morph into other stuff also but the artist will always hold a special place in their heart. I am 42 so I was a kid when rap first started and fell in love with it. Those rappers who started out in the '80s will always be my favorites but if they made new music now I would be a fan of it but it would hit differently. As much as I love Jay Z and I'm always happy when he puts out music he will never have that same bus and the fact that he had in the late 90s to early 2000s when he took over and that's okay that's normal natural and that's no knock against anybody. Hip hop and rap is basically a sign of the times and although the music may sound good years later it's more of a nostalgic thing. It's a little outdated but you still love it because you feel at home with it it gives you a feeling and makes you think back to what you were doing around that time. It's funny because at the time I liked this group but I wasn't in love with their music but as I've gotten older and here they're old songs from time to time I appreciate it more simply from a Nostalgia standpoint

[@rondutertre3367]

I miss D12.. I still listen to all their solo albums and their D12 albums

[@armydog20]

Bro that era didn't die, we just grew older and outgrew a lot of things, now looking back at those times, all I can say I'm greatful we didn't have phones with cameras and social media lol 🤣

[@hugsavage5286]

Straight up

[@thesquad2253]

nah is dead

[@MorganReesMelbourneAU]

what I'll always love about D12 is it's the perfect example of 1 boy getting big and bringing all his mans along with him. nowadays guys like little baby still bring all the boys along with him (props) but em really lifted all his guys up with him and gave them a platform.

[@NoirNameless]

Although I was around 7 years old when D12 World dropped, I remember hearing My Band literally everywhere. And even though Eminem was my favorite rapper at the time, I didn’t pay much attention to d12 outside of that. But this for me the peak Shady Aftermath in general. At least what I can remember of it lol Eminem, D12, 50, G-Unit, Obie, Dre still producing beats for everyone, Game, And Detox actually still seeming likely lol. It was pretty nice to see. And to this day, I’m still a fan of the Re Up album. Even though some label that album the start of the downfall of Shady Records, it was still solid ass work to me.

[@turtleanton6539]

It had some good songs but Bobby creek and cashis was weak stat quo probably also did not deserve to be signed and why all 3 at the same time. He should pushes one of them HARD

[@CSpad]

@@turtleanton6539 he gave them the launching pad & cosign. The same way Dre did for him, he did for 50 & 50 did for G-unit. After you get your shot, it's up to you to make the most of it

[@nicholaswoollhead6830]

To this day I do not comprehend what people like about 'My Band'. It's the most gratingly irritating song I've heard probably ever, I would prefer having a rusty nail punched through my eardrum over listening to that song even a handful of times.

[@chrisbrown8748]

I wish that I could go back in time to the first time is saw Eminem’s first CD on the shelf at the mall record store those were the good ole days.

[@jayc5756]

Good shit here. I totally agree with you on everything you've said here.

[@JulianNagano]

I always wondered why the D12 members never appeared as solo artists on Eminem's albums. As far as I know there was only 1 solo feature and that was Bizarre on Amityville (MMLP). By the way, I think Hannicap Circus could keep up very well with Devil's Night and D12 World in terms of quality.

[@Chamberz55]

I bought “Searching for Jerry Garcia” day 1 and it is classic IMO. There has to be more to why it wasn’t a Shady release. It has a 50 feature (recycled chorus) and Eminem on a few hooks. Could have been bigger. I had two of the D12 mixtapes but never knew about Kuniva & Swift solo joints. Going to seek them out. Great vid.

[@seinfeldfan442]

D12 still did fairly well even though they needed eminems help, it's normal for a lot of artists to have one or two big albums plus singles and then go down hill from there, I guess d12 could of kept going longer but I understand why they quit, they still have a lot to be proud of

[@elcid9054]

Yup even 50 cent only had two good studio albums

[@seinfeldfan442]

@@elcid9054 I agree with that and I'm guessing they were get rich or die trying and the massacre, maybe guess who's back

[@elcid9054]

@@seinfeldfan442 yes except guess who’s back was a mix tape.

[@seinfeldfan442]

@@elcid9054 that's ok I forgot about that

[@gemmaaboagye8951]

I remember D12 . Abouslotley fantastic

[@backatitagain20]

American psycho a classic "I was born feet first, smoke 40s and drink weed" 🔥🔥🔥

[@Rezza275]

They are definition of "bestfriend" for Eminem. They never "blame" Eminem for overshadow the group and still support Eminem till the end. If Big Proof still alive, maybe there will be some point that D12 can shine even without Eminem.

[@NoChillAustin]

Unlike slaughterhouse over here got royce turning on em, Joe blaming em. Only joell and Crooked don't blame em

[@RecoveryJimmy89]

Man D12 was on Fire 🔥 😳 back then, But Man I'm so glad I got to be young and at the age were I could listen 🎶 to Eminem & D12 & 50 Cent and G-unit them years back then.. After buying all three of Eminem's Album's on my Birthday when I 13 I think 🤔 but I remember when Hi My Name Is first came out, And also I remember having my grandmother. Go to the CD store to get Eminem's Encore. The day I came out. I remember going to see 8 mile on the movie theaters. I remember when 50 Cent came out with in the club. That was at my dance for seventh grade those are great times great music

[@bigproofofd12forever77]

D12 4 LIFE

[@paulbeadle1714]

D12 were absolutely brilliant especially there early stuff

[@ebogar42]

I've asked this question a few times. I remember when d12 dropped and it was my favorite album I played probably more than any other CD I ever had. I probably knew 3 or 4 of the songs which is rare for me to know all the lyrics since I don't listen to music like that.

[@takeonparis]

You missed an extremely crucial fact: D12 was Proof's group. HE was both the founder and the leader... not Eminem. Not sure how you didn't come across that in your research...

[@jaymacc93]

Exactly. To me D-12 was better without Eminem. I really wished they would’ve kept dropping music together. RIP PROOF

[@Humongous420]

I actually got the CD 12 at a club years back and they were freaking awesome I am a Metalhead but I appreciate good music and I got to say those guys knocked it out of the park

[@devantethedcguyreactstoo252]

D12 was like the original odd future, but they had a good run the album’s were good and considering hip hop classics,but yeah once proof was gone it just ain’t the same. But be nice for them to try one last time

[@CASSOBLVCK]

Kuniva lowkey was one of my favorite rappers growing up

[@donmeyers2631]

Crazy interesting perspectives!

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

They could of evolve like how Tyler the creator did however they didn’t want to and didn’t last the test of time

[@Mycorruptedmind]

Tyler the creator is one man. Not 5. Also you can’t compare his career to a groups career it doesn’t even make sense lmao wtf are you on

[@BostonBlues]

The Proof album Searching For Jerry Garcia was one of the first CDs I ever bought when I was like 13. It was an awesome double disc set, one side was the CD and the other was a DVD called High World which was Proof just filming himself doing funny shit and telling stories high as shit 😄 Loved that DVD

[@Jrust139]

shady records could have easily been, and still be, one of the greatest labels of all time with the talent and diversity of the artists that have been on the label. that truly is em's greatest shortcoming as a legend in the game, is his dire lacking to properly promote talented artists.

[@sphakamisozondi]

Proof was the glue that kept the group together.

[@CastleVaniak]

Bizarre was my favourite. His verse on Amityville is one of the most perverse

[@youngmoneycashheavy]

is anyone else noticing that lyrical rap is getting more attention as of lately

[@davejohnson4455]

Yea buddy horseshoe gang

[@UltimatelyEverything]

I do miss D12 they were and are one of the best rap groups that ever touched a mic R.I.P Bugz and Proof hopefully one day they'll all come back and do one more song together but that's just wishful thinking.

[@legendary8838]

Probably my all time favorite rap group

[@bdr113080]

Really what happened to D12 isn’t really that uncommon with a lot of rap groups especially if you have members that also have solo careers. It’s not that different from the NWA story, what happened to G-Unit, what happened to slaughterhouse, what happened to Wu-Tang, yes some of these groups did later on in their career have some of the members get back together and put out an album under that name but it’s just what happens to a lot of hip-hop groups. I know what Wikipedia says but if you ask any member of D 12 including Eminem himself, they will all see that Proof was the leader of D12, just like Eazy E was to NWA. Yes Eminem was the biggest solo star but Proof was the leader of the group and it’s really hard for hip-hop groups to continue after the one that was holding everything together passes away. And just like NWA did in the late 90s early 2000s there were times that we thought D12 was going to get back together and put out an album. I remember seeing stuff on social media and pictures of Eminem in the other four guys in the studio and then a year or two would go by and instead of a full length album we would get AD 12 mixtape and Eminem would be on the mixtape but not on every song. Kind of like NWA when they got back together and they did a song for the next Friday soundtrack and for ice cubes album and they said they were going to do another album and they decided without Eazy-E that it just couldn’t be done. Same thing with D12. If you look at all of the rap group so I named most of them only put out two LPs. NWA, slaughterhouse, g-Unit, Wu-Tang did get back together like 15 years later but it wasn’t the full group. There’s so much money that the record companies take from rappers as it is. So if the group only gets a dollar for every album sold once you start having to split $1.00 six ways it isn’t a lot of money.

[@LILBolder]

I REMEMBER D12 IN HIGH SCHOOL I WOULD BUMP THERE MUSIC IN 2000'S R.I.P PROOF & BUGZ WISH THEY CAN MAKE A COMEBACK IN 2024 BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WON'T MAKE OTHER ALBUM WITHOUT PROOF🙏🏽BUGZ

[@EricHurwitz]

they are right about the shock value. i love controversy and shocking lyrics i am from that late 90s/00s era with marilyn manson,dmx,and others.

[@BraidzMC]

Proof & Swift both got crazy solo catalogues that people sleep on

[@ddavis3599]

Man Devils Night is such a good album.

[@laron.henderson]

It's not just Eminem. Most rapper owned labels don't promote artists they sign. The only exception may be Master P. He had an album and artist out every week

[@barcodeguy7627]

I still listen to Bizarre every now and then when he drops a good song.

[@daveyleeriot]

Bizarre & King Gordy AKA Last American Rockstars 🔥🔥🔥 Also Kuniva crazy talented

[@duckwithahat989]

HEY DUDE I LOVE YOUR BAND

[@jimmyneutron5755]

Devils Night is literally one of my favorite hip hop albums D12 world was ok not nearly as good as Devils Night though Edit: If they released a reunion album, it would go crazy. I think that it would be friggin amazing if they did that and made it like a love letter to Proof and Bugz. Rip

[@Nicholaspimpinsohard]

D12 fell completely apart when Proof was killed because that completely tore Eminem up. Proof was the glue that tightly held the group together, not saying that they were at odds with each other at all. When Proof got killed the whole spark quickly went away, and that's the main reason as to why Eminem stepped away from the rap scene for several years, and he even thought about quitting. RIP Proof

[@CLEMIN3M]

I got really in to this and Eminem I went straight and got all these albums but never matched up to when they all was together

[@wichorast]

These girls don't even know the name of my band

[@dishman4694]

I love how the explanation of D12 sounds like a rap in itself haha

[@karlbantom8334]

Devils night was a good and under appreciated album

[@rarerelent]

They were so underrated

[@datcrazywhiteboy6205]

Devils night album will forever be in my music play list

[@internetcutie]

for anyone new to this that is interested a few tracks you can listen to from these times are: "Beautiful" (verses recorded 2007, before Em's overdose) "Not Afraid" (This is a track of Marshall promising to never Relapse again, a double entendre jab at his previous album that he ended up not liking in hindsight) "Deja Vu" (A somewhat mono-tone description of Em's addictive tendencies) "Castle and Arose" (These two tracks will tell you a lot about that specific time in 2007, also his thoughts on losing Proof at the time and how he eerily predicted his death in the "Like Toy Soilders" music video recorded 2 years prior.. it shows how that actually fucked with his head quite a lot whenever he would see Proof's/D12 posters at his studio and home) and I see people see this change as a "clone" or even worse "android" but can't see that he just changed his lifestyle and can't believe he can still rap like he does at 50, have to call him a hollywood created robot from 06? i think they say lmao.. I just say listen to the music, you'll hear emotions no machine could replicate.

[@darkskinwhite]

being signed to Shady doesnt mean Eminem is supposed to hold your hand lol. exception for his real life friends but the rest of em nah

[@NinjaMuffinLive1]

I'd like to welcome you to ABSOLUTE POWER baby! This is Krizz Kaliko reporting from Kansas City, misery. 'Bout to premiere one of those other ones, from that psycho y'all know and love....

[@justinc6962]

Devils night is still one of my favorite albums

[@AkkademikerSR]

I still miss the good old days of d12 ❤️

[@roachbag6969]

5'9 bad meets evil can't sleep on that lp

[@bluekangaroo9934]

D12 devils night is SO underrated. Legit horrorcore in the mainstream, everyone went off

[@jarethlarwood6445]

Mr. Porter is dope. Good producer, good rapper and a good singer on top of all that. That's a triple threat I wish I was

[@charlesdigloria693]

Proof is the only one in my opinion, that would have made it solo.

[@crxssaegrim]

That Devil's Night mixtape from 2015 is highly underrated!