HIPS IS WHERE THE SQUAT LIVES OR DIES!! | THE MUSCLE DOC

In this episode The Muscle Doc, Dr. Jordan Shallow, shows Mind Pump Adam two squat cues addressing the hips.
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[@sidoney101]

Shots fired from Alan Thrall. Hate will be incoming. Did you guys even read Starting Strength?

[@GD-tj7oj]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ-xiZ-OjZxgbM0&t=1m12s

[@johntrains1317]

Apparently not. Trying to get clicks through taking cues out of context is my guess. Thing is, they should know better.

[@hardwiredwellness]

Only 50k people have had the opportunity to see this, one of the best squat videos on the net !!

[@rossmchale1443]

Get some starting strength coaches on the podcast to debate it out! Specifically, Jordan Feigenbaum and Austin Baraki would be great!

[@tequilaburp]

Never skip brain training day.

[@ilhberg]

The way you described Rip's squatting method is not how I understand it. The Starting Strength model teaches you to break at the hips and knees at the same time, with the knees being set in the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the descent. I can say from experience that when I focus on getting my knees forward and out early, instead of pushing my hips back first which leads to knee slide in the hole, I have a lot less discomfort in my SI joint. To summarize, I don't think there's much difference between how you and Rip describe a proper squat.

[@THEwolf1337]

Eric Askins The part of Rip's squatting form that mind pump says is wrong is coming out of the hole. Rip teaches you to use your back and hips with your hips pushed back. What the doc says is that causes to much grinding or pressure on the SI Joint.

[@Malfeas]

Except that is not the SS model for coming out of the hole. Rip emphasizes what he calls 'Hip Dahrive', which is having your hips go straight up (not back), ie loading the quads just like 'Muscle Doc' is saying. MD has an extremely flawed view of the SS material. Don't believe me? Just look at any video on youtube of Rip instructing someone and he always tells them to drive straight up, never back. In actuality the MD is teaching a near identical squat technique. MD may be well educated on anatomy but is poorly read on what he is critiquing.

[@cmdrfunk]

He basically strawmanned the Rippetoe squat

[@AgniMullick]

There's a video on KZbin of rippetoe squatting. Since you guys have already started the war, review the video. Thanks for all the cool vids though

[@dayontegrimes2861]

@Mind Pump TV, could you please make a video addressing SI Joint dysfunction and injuries and how to heal them to move forward and progress in lifting. I injured my back doing bent over barbell rows about 2 years ago and my physical therapist said that it was my SI Joint that I injured but he has yet to be able to help me heal it so it doesn't hurt. PLEASE HELP! Thanks for all of the continuous knowledge that you guys always share!!!!

[@mikepowers9580]

There are no muscles designed to keep you upright; the back and abdominal musculature exists to stabilize the trunk- i.e. keep it rigid, irrespective of horizontal orientation to the surface of the planet. Argument invalid.

[@TheLordismyportion]

mike powers Thank you, I was waiting for someone to day that!

[@nobs4689]

Right on man 👍

[@jabberwock14]

I agree, has this guy ever read SS? Does he think that you'll die if you bend forward ever in your life?

[@azulsimmons1040]

Lots of big lifters good morning squats. Ed Coan good morninged squats. He even cues to push off the weight off the shoulders and let the body do what it natural as far as extending the legs when coming up. Moving the most weight and doing it in the best way do not go hand in hand. The low bar squat naturally encourages a bent over form and pushing with the back. A lot of people do it. It's why I switched to high bar which allows me to stay more upright and load the quads rather than the back. Low bar is definitely hard on the back even if it does allow you to move more weight, especially when deadifting in the same week.

[@andrewdurand3181]

This guy knows his stuff. Glad Adam is there to translate.

[@kingschnitz]

Check out the Max Aita squat. Very clever - very experienced very easy to listen to lifter Makes a nice comment about older squatters and squatting healthy and strong as we age. You don’t see many of any lifters in their 40s squatting Rip style- they shift to a more upright technique after a litany of injuries. I want to be squatting healthy and strong for a long time- I think he makes some sound points - as does Max Aita

[@poomuncherful]

Jesus, has this guy even read the book? Talk about misinformation based on hearing 2 out of context cues.

[@jesusischrist8743]

Thank you guys I've been doing the riptoe squat for 6 months I feel that pinch Thank you

[@kellyreneeconner]

He fixed my butt wink at parallel in an 8 min video!

[@juancolman9803]

What about Joseph pena? He squated 1000 lbs

[@juancolman9803]

With a "Rippetoe" squat

[@jabberwock14]

That's because the "Rip" squat is an intelligently designed squat with a hip dominant moment arm.

[@TomSpence1]

Another awesome video! I have what I think are some ankle mobility issues where I got told I should be putting my heels on some plates to allow me to squat better while I improve my ankle mobility! This is where I get told that this is a terrible idea?

[@ML-nj8fq]

I believe everyone can out work or fix their squat even when they have long femurs, but leverages arent always related to height. the 6’3 guy doesnt have long femurs (relative to his torso) I know a girl that is only 5’7 or so but he definitely has long femurs, relative to her torso.

[@TheLordismyportion]

What's also funny is that the freeze frame for the video shows Jordan squatting with his knees only about an inch in front his toes, and his hips BACK. It's almost like you can't shove your knees forward and stay upright under maximum loads in the lowbar position...

[@FayeWeekly]

He described my SI issues to a T! I initially thought it was from my new bike (need to get the fit dialed in) but after watching this I'm thinking my squat (mostly goblets at the moment) definitely needs to be tweaked. Thanks for the info - this has been an eye opening series.

[@MindPumpTV]

You're welcome Faye, glad we could help ya out

[@maarrsseelli]

I try to perform on the best form possible. But I still get the front quad impingement. At this point I feel kinda lost.

[@jrmayun]

That rippetoe squat fucked me up when I was first squatting years ago.

[@ryanoflynn779]

Not happy with my results, leg broken. ☹️

[@MP-db9sw]

1:21 am i the only one who kept expecting the cable fly machine to blurt out "Danger Will Robinson!" ??

[@pigletofgreed7747]

Most people don't want to squat 700 lbs.

[@meaganjorgensen]

love this!!

[@Joeaxtell]

can you guys boost the volume on all the new videos? everything is as loud as a mouse fart.

[@MindPumpTV]

Got a lot of feedback on this - will address it in the next series. Thanks for letting us know! And you had me dying with "loud as a mouse fart" hahahaha

[@Joeaxtell]

Good to hear! Fairly recent follower, but quickly a huge fan!

[@fg786]

Whenever I watch these instructional videos I get the feeling, that nobody is doing it right, everything goes to shit if the slightest adjustments errors come in to place and you probably die instantly. And all these little cues feel like they are made for powerlifters wanting to put that extra 5 lbs on the bar, but not for everage Joe who just wants to squat save and progress a little to work against sitting in front of a monitor 9 hours straight.

[@williams7787]

fg Hey man I agree with you and all these little cues are actually very individual to a trainee and won't necessarily help everyone. Here's my opinion; you can take it or leave it. The most important cues for the squat for anyone is: - bend and extend at knees and hips simultaneously (when descending and ascending respectively) - keep weight over midfoot through the entire movement You can create other smaller cues for yourself if it helps you do those two things. Hope this helps you and saves ya time!

[@fg786]

If I feel it in my calves, I have leaned too much forward, doing a good morning. The weight is too heavy then. The bar rests on the back but there is no need to push it into your back. The width of your stand and the outwards rotation of the foot depends on the lifter. I do not like standing too wide, it feels awkward. My feet are fairly straight forward. These are my cues (+ the your 2) I build up to in 2 years of squatting and learning the movement.

[@UCTeeth]

Hey Adam or Muscle Doc, if I squat the way you recommended, but it gives me knee pain what could be the cause?

[@Themuscledoc]

patellofemoral pain linked closes with hip instability! I would start there, load some progressions of single leg movements with a focus on stability- not strength

[@dave82au]

So let me get this straight... You claim that a forward lean of the torso under load is inherently injurious to the SI joint, and hence hip-dominant squats are dangerous while knee-dominant squats are safe. But what about the deadlift? Surely this claim that forward lean of the torso under load is also, perhaps inadvertently, implying that deadlifts are inherently unsafe, since deadlifts use an even greater forward lean of the torso under even greater loads. It doesn't add up. (Unless, of course, you're just making up this supposed SI joint risk. That would explain why we don't actually see any former lifters walking on crutches.)

[@Cats-12f]

Interesting theory

[@drkyleditz]

0:45 @layne norton

[@THEwolf1337]

Mind Pump I have 1 question. You guys talked about the quad and Glutes in this video. What about the hamstrings? Isn't your posterior chain the strong group of muscles? So how does the hamstrings fit into this squat form?

[@Sublimemelancholy]

Its called a stripper squat and what will have many gym bros with major back issues down the roads

[@HarmonicGrunt]

Tom Platz Was Right? Straght Up - Straight Down!

[@emZee1994]

If anyone wants to learn more about this style of squatting look up max aita. Amazing squat coach

[@Silentmonarchh]

Absolutely haven’t read starting strength

[@kevinblack3576]

This guy is sorely misinformed.

[@butfirstcoffee1648]

Since when you drive hips back, they are go up Mr Smarty Pants, read the Rip book instead misinform public

[@hadroncollider17]

Everyone’s saying to read Starting Strength but no one’s saying to read the Feynman Technique

[@TheGoodfella2012]

3:36 I'd never thought of this before and I highly suspect I've been doing this. Jordan Shallow always has some solid advice!!

[@AftabulousAF]

Makes sense! Love it when you do collabs like these..

[@MindPumpTV]

More with The Muscle Doc coming soon! What other collabs would you like to see??

[@pigletofgreed7747]

Jesus Christ I need a fucking PhD before I can SQUAT?

[@chadminor2360]

Somebody tell the doc his shoe is untied

[@mharley3791]

I recently suffered an injury with a trainer encouraging me to do the rip-toe squats. I felt the pain in my lower back and knew something was wrong but he insisted it was the way to squat. Thank you for explaining this and proving I'm not crazy. This way definitely feels so much better, especially when I'm lifting heavy.

[@MrJordanConnolly]

M Harley who was the trainer? Was he a certified Starting Strength Coach?

[@trevormcquillen3659]

I suggest you actually read Starting Strength before you make any more accusations. Very misinformed, Muscle Doc.

[@calebhuang2429]

Yup I got up to 285 for reps on the good morning/squat and finally injured my lower back. Looking to get back in the game this time with proper form

[@samuelbernal7534]

yuuur

[@TysonBrownpt]

it's all in the hips - Happy Gilmore ;)

[@MindPumpTV]

Exactlyyyyy

[@ck-rd2ce]

Jordan is smart but unfortunately like the rest of the "Rip squat" critique videos out there, hasn't read up on what the SS model teaches....Read the blue book ffs

[@jtimmer1969]

"Out function are structure" catchy also non-sensical

[@ckennedy1973]

Do your fahves

[@roydeleon154]

watching this video reminds me of fake news

[@jabberwock14]

No, no one is different. Do the same squat no matter your physiology, because I'm a terrible coach who doesn't know how to coach people differently.

[@qjerm2]

Nice to see some dissent regarding Rippetoe's methods. One of his favorite pastimes is pointing out the dogma he sees in the lifting community, but from all the people and channels I watch on KZbin, Mark himself appears to be the most dogmatic.

[@TheEddie2687]

Just drooling from all the info I just recieved lol

[@MindPumpTV]

drool on my friend drool on

[@Cats-12f]

Same my friend, same

[@kevinhuynh2209]

Rippetoe squat: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nICyfHmKf7hjlck

[@emZee1994]

Omg thank you, somebody with some common sense. We arnt all that different (spider people lol). "Outfunction our structure" is a great term p.s. can you please do a video on how to fix externally rotated tibias/tibial torsion? As it relates to the squat

[@MindPumpTV]

watch out for them spider people lol

[@slaxxx]

after 15 years of competitive sports and an active lifestyle there is rarely an injury that is on his table that he, himself has not experienced. -muscledoc.com this is immoral. i really hope nobody takes this theory serious.

[@giorgioanastasios4734]

Who cares about squats. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Leg press hacks. Lunge. Bulgarians. Alllllll better rhwn barbell squats. Hearing this for years. BARBELL BACK SQUATS SUCK. BECAUSE OF BARBELL ON BACK. LOL

[@maxm30000]

awesome video thanks!

[@MindPumpTV]

Thx for watching Max!

[@Irrealism]

starting 4:15 rip starting strength

[@MindPumpTV]

rippe-ruh-roh

[@brotendo]

Except that's not how Rip or SS teaches the squat.

[@daveeatworld]

Mind Pump TV This doctor is an idiot. He should try actually reading Starting Strength.

[@perturbo]

hes not a doctor

[@sandra.saverio]

Toi much talk and no exemples

[@Mversluis93]

So much misinformation and ignorance in one video.

[@saxier1838]

They need more subscribers

[@MindPumpTV]

Tell me about it!

[@funkyXmode]

They really don’t