When I clicked on this video I did not expect to hear "the setting was changed because America was bombing Iraq"
@fionafiona11464 жыл бұрын
Because "the content was changed" is your default or American have been bombing Iraq a lot?
@painoftheheart124 жыл бұрын
@@fionafiona1146 we bomb Iraq a lot
@fionafiona11464 жыл бұрын
@@painoftheheart12 True
@slyninja44444 жыл бұрын
Honestly (as an american), it really annoyed me that they changed the name. It had nothing to do with the war whatsoever...
@goemon91184 жыл бұрын
Dakota Conn still it’s just a little insensitive to capitalize off of the place their country is literally bombing don’t you think?
@ME-rr5jq5 жыл бұрын
Jasmine's historically accurate costume is gorgeous!!!!!
@leenfira68215 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the blue one is terrible. It’s not modest at all
@taiya0015 жыл бұрын
It is very nice. Though blue suits her more.
@throughthelookingglass59735 жыл бұрын
@@leenfira6821 I agree. I've read many complaints about how Jasmine was not wearing her bare midriff outfit in the live-action film. But Jasmine represents the politics of her homeland, therefore wearing an outfit that resembles a seducing belly dancer is not appropriate. I think the live-action film did her justice by removing that.
@destinydevone27955 жыл бұрын
@@taiya001 b b bvb.p
@throughthelookingglass59735 жыл бұрын
@@karmeeleon I agree with you. Though I know that some complained about how Jasmine's outfits look more Indian. Personally, that doesn't bother me since the creators confirmed that Agrabah is a port city with Middle Eastern, Indian, and even East Asian influences. In fact, looking at India's culture, you can easily see some Middle Eastern influence. The Taj Mahal looks like a Middle East mosque.
@lexistazo5 жыл бұрын
Ok but can we get “fashion historian fact checks Emperor’s New Groove”
@youdontknowwhoiam15575 жыл бұрын
Omg yes!
@heneralantonioluna87255 жыл бұрын
We all know that it's not accurate
@martinsaugustaf5 жыл бұрын
please!!!
@youtubeuseri575 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@Iuxinterior5 жыл бұрын
"ok so they didnt turn into llamas and the llamas couldnt talk"
@designerdancer945 жыл бұрын
Thank GOD they finally got a better illustrator! And a historian who knows this specific era and culture! So much better!!!
@imperviousdonut5 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church hmmm aren't you the same wade church who wasnt able to comprehend that all fashion worn by royals is politically motivated???
@imperviousdonut5 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church I'm not Trying to imply anything. I'm very clearly saying that I've seen you comment quite a bit on other peoples comments and I noticed how vehemently you argued over the political history of clothing. Frankly dude you're making your self look ridiculously silly. People who read your comments don't think hmm he's got a valid point. All royalty (disney princess) related videos are politically charged. I have an interest in "historical clothing" and have yet to see a good video on KZbin that ignores the importance of political influence on fashion. I went back and watched a few more of past videos and couldn't find one that didn't mention politics multiple times. I can understand your aversion to wanting to see so much politics just about everywhere but if you are a grown adult I'm sorry to say that you are disillusioning yourself if you are not aware that politics is heavy is your life now so no point in whining huh.
@wotchermystic23354 жыл бұрын
@Wade ChurchTo be fair, the person they normally have analyze these videos makes a lot of mistakes.
@existingthing38884 жыл бұрын
Wade Church check the comments on the frozen one, there you have some examples.
@aoncoina67654 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the other videos but this lady knows her stuff better because she's Turkish
@kaylatomkins87585 жыл бұрын
i’m sure that this had already been said, but i would love this same lady to do an an analysis of the live-action aladdin remake, and do a comparison as well!!!
@ahhh41175 жыл бұрын
Bio Kimistry mmmnmmm not really :/
@gloria.R.72864 жыл бұрын
YAASSS
@ArtsyChick244 жыл бұрын
I like that the historically accurate Jasmine outfit looks like the live action remake, too.
@tiffprendergast3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtsyChick24 yeah
@misabelrodriguez11635 жыл бұрын
When I was little I thought Aladdin was set in India because of all the Indian references. Like the palace and the tiger.
@alebolan4835 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@sebziez5 жыл бұрын
Xiletelo Mabasa well it’s not real. It’s fiction. Maybe they thought of a fictional place that had Indian,Arab,Turkish, culture all mixed into one. Again it is fiction but it is quite interesting
@minniestomboy5 жыл бұрын
SAME
@emilydonan70005 жыл бұрын
Xiletelo Mabasa bro me too
@jorjorwell19895 жыл бұрын
Same i thot they were indian cuz the palace looked like a gurdwara
@melissa13455 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the more historically accurate dress prettier than the movie’s version?
@Sawrattan4 жыл бұрын
If like me you love textiles, the range of fabrics are gorgeous compared to the simple blue of the animation. I guess social class also dictated heavier amounts of cloth, the higher you went.
@s1eepy_batz3534 жыл бұрын
No it is not just you.They are pretty good and i think they relay did a great job
@fisebilillah44064 жыл бұрын
Of course.
@pb71994 жыл бұрын
not just you, jasmine was the sultan's daughter she 100% would NOT be wearing plain blue cloth. if you have money and power you had to show it off!
@shanayazaveri26204 жыл бұрын
A salwar kameez(top) always looks beautiful.
@Corinthians16145 жыл бұрын
I always kinda assumed Aladdin’s clothing was small because he’s probably had that vest for years, and since he didn’t have a mom he just kept it despite him growing 🤷🏼♀️
@fisebilillah44064 жыл бұрын
Muslim vests are shorter because the sash covers the lower parts of the upper body.
@Corinthians16144 жыл бұрын
Mystery Man Thank you for telling me that. Ya learn something new everyday
@porfiriodiazcarrillo75514 жыл бұрын
it was the disneyfication of the story; in the original, his mother was alive and she was the one who went to the palace to ask the princess hand for him; also, the wizard posed as aladdin's uncle to persuade him to get the lamp.
Thank you so much for better drawings this time - I'm sorry, but the ones used in the Mulan video were just awful.
@lemiahporter93235 жыл бұрын
Lionstar16 😭😭😭
@LadyLocket5 жыл бұрын
They have ALL been awfull and messy up till this one
@mavisvermillion8755 жыл бұрын
@@LadyLocket i know right? mulan was the worst by far but they all sucked
@Ava-bv8xq4 жыл бұрын
Bet you couldn’t do better
@dontsubscribetothischannel40074 жыл бұрын
@@Ava-bv8xq I wish I could ☺️ hahaha
@299meena4 жыл бұрын
To everyone saying that Ja'far's accent is an English accent, to be very honest it sounds almost exactly like my grandfather who is Pakistani in origin but learned English in Britain. It's mostly English but definitely has some sort of 'ethnic' undertones.
@starcherry68144 жыл бұрын
It is a very arab-british accent, I heard it too! A lot of people forget a lot of arab countries were colonised and for a very long time this is how arabs spoke English But if you want to be more obvious about it, point to the guards with HEAVY stereotypical middle eastern accents. It's embarrassing, I have to fast forward those parts
@tiffprendergast3 жыл бұрын
@@starcherry6814 yeah
@nanaah46023 жыл бұрын
@@starcherry6814 yup
@AndyAbrams10295 жыл бұрын
The lack of detail on the embellishments is definitely because of the limitations on animation when the movie was created, but its so nice to see accurate representations of the clothing!
@NShll-sd9yw3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this is was an issue with Disney in general, because even with the European princess stories, many of the princesses' gowns weren't that detailed also for the same reasons.
@staceysbooknook5 жыл бұрын
This was great, and the drawings are so much better now. Keep this illustrator please, the detail is brilliant.
@nicolasoke74215 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church You can always skip straight to the drawings. Though I find it interesting how you prefer scribbled drawings onto mannequins with little to no context, over in-depth analysis of how the social and cultural conditions of the time actually influenced these outfits. 🙄
@aberdeen01075 жыл бұрын
Wade Church to understand the fashion you have to understand the surrounding politics.
@annakrpatova34295 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church but what they wear is different based on the time and the first half of the video they tried to guess the period and shown the clues that points to it. With other Disney films they've done it's a bit easier but because of mixture of different cultures in Aladdin it became quite difficult to decide on a timeline of it so they explained what are the potential clues and why they chose the era they chose to be accurate and informate you about potential misinformation, so noone ( or the minimum of people get mad at them)
@annakrpatova34295 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church and the video is approximately the same length as others they've done
@annakrpatova34295 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church so you just can't see why the politics are important in this vid? Ok, I don't know how else to explain it to you than I just explained before. In the Middle East who is running the countries there is very important for the time and I suppose that lot of people appreciated that they got the right and greatly explained context to the dress decade
@charliequartz20855 жыл бұрын
i only just got through the part where she's talking about aladdin's clothes, but the sketch of what his historically accurate clothes would have looked like looks almost identical to his initial concept art. it looks like they changed it for the animated movie and brought it back for the live action.
@AlexaFaie5 жыл бұрын
Plus his outfit when he is in Prince clothes is more like the historical look. So in some ways I wonder if at least with him the reason for omitting items was just to try and show just how poor he was. That his outfit was just pieced together out of whatever could be found. Whilst someone poor would still have shoes, someone homeless might not. Like I've seen homeless people in the UK with no shoes. It happens. :( If he'd had a full outfit but still ragged it might not have emphasised his poverty nearly as much.
@crzylkfx4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexaFaie that's certainly possible, but I've also heard they wanted to make him more appealing to female viewers, and felt the concept art didn't do that enough
@erinlee59364 жыл бұрын
@@crzylkfx Why should his look be appealing to female viewers when the movie was made for kids? So little girls would find a teenage boy attractive if he's shirtless? If that was the case then the (probably male) executives who decided to do that have a skewed sense of logic in thinking that way.
@blutygar4 жыл бұрын
@@erinlee5936 It's more likely for older female audiences who would watch it with the children who'd watch. Just because its G (general audience) rated doesn't mean it's only for kids and Disney always aims their movies for everyone
@isobelle23575 жыл бұрын
"The more villainous characters have strong middle eastern accents" Cuts to Jafar with a posh British accent...
@smalltiny5 жыл бұрын
yeah there is only jafar and iago and they both do not have ME accents.
@lailiakadaisy5 жыл бұрын
I think the video is referring to how the "r" is pronounced.
@isobelle23575 жыл бұрын
Laila Dawn yes the way it’s pronounced in a posh British accent, or a strong Scottish accent and many others. Many accents roll their r’s. With that logic she’d be saying the same thing if Jafar had a strong Scottish accent.
@bsharahourany98735 жыл бұрын
IKRRRR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Floareintherain5 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is definitely not a linguist
@cinna_sultan5 жыл бұрын
I know this may not be relevant to attire but anyone else realised that Jasmine’s title would not have been Princess. If Aladdin has followed Ottoman attributes then I’m guessing her name should’ve been Jasmine Sultan and be addressed as “Sultana”, as most of the Ottoman Empire women were after Ayse Hafsa Sultan introduced it for women of the dynasty.
@NarutoUzumaki-vy3jb5 жыл бұрын
ottmoan empire women weren't adressed as sultana, thy were adressed as "sultans" too
@jaspreetdayal83665 жыл бұрын
@@NarutoUzumaki-vy3jb Female leaders were called Sultanas, which is the feminine form of Sultan.
@NarutoUzumaki-vy3jb5 жыл бұрын
@@jaspreetdayal8366 no not in Ottoman Empire, there is not adding a to make feminine form, they were adressed as lady sultan but not sultana www.theottomans.org/english/family/harem2.asp
@asmasm97365 жыл бұрын
The story was written before the ottomans
@cinna_sultan5 жыл бұрын
Jaspreet Dayal Yes but in the Ottoman Sultanate all their women were addressed as Sultan since they couldn’t ascend the throne. Also the Ottomans ruled over Baghdad for some time after Sultan Murad IV. In the case that there were no male heirs of the throne then the throne would go to another whole dynasty and not a female member of the Sultanate.
@FinsFlipper5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice how Jasmine and Aladdin's historically accurate outfits have similar looks to those in the live action? Disney clearly did their research this time around
@caligulalonghbottom26295 жыл бұрын
Its not that they didnt do their research the first time...its an animated cartoon, it needs to be simplied for the animators and easily adapted to be 'iconic' and recognizable.
@rajaiscariot96825 жыл бұрын
Caligula Longhbottom the live action costumes were heavily inspired by the Indian culture, not Arab.
@chippychompy63245 жыл бұрын
True!!!!
@Visualmetal4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention how cheap and tacky they look
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
guys the 90s version was a cartoon...... please... I could look at the hunchback of notre dame and tell you that the clothes are too minimized, or to Snowhite, the same. It's not a cultural problem, it's not racism, it was a CARTOON
@topherpadilla5 жыл бұрын
I think they should re-do the Mulan video with a historian and the illustrator who did the illustrations in this one.
@iamchristian11295 жыл бұрын
Topher Topher Ur wasn’t as bad as you think it is
@mcwyman79285 жыл бұрын
Oh God the Mulan illustrations were TERRIBLE
@topherpadilla5 жыл бұрын
@@mcwyman7928 IKR
@idontknowanymore99665 жыл бұрын
Christian Salgado the illustrations in Mulan WAS AS BAD AS I REMEMBER
@ValeeBahamondes5 жыл бұрын
@@iamchristian1129 you again 😩
@Sawrattan4 жыл бұрын
I like the historian's calm and clear presentation without smug jokes or obnoxious tone.
@AWlpsSHOW362 жыл бұрын
Same. Something that slightly puts me off about fashion historians examining the outfits is they are quite rude and disrespectful about it and flat out smashes the designer.
@sylvrscorpyn5 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see Jafar.
@Nurichiri5 жыл бұрын
Ironically I think his clothing would be the most accurate, right up there with his Middle Eastern accent. Go figure.
@lillian94455 жыл бұрын
@@Nurichiri He has a British accent
@Nurichiri5 жыл бұрын
@@lillian9445 Still closer than an American one.
@lillian94455 жыл бұрын
@@Nurichiri Idk I think British would be closer to American rather than Middle Eastern
@Nurichiri5 жыл бұрын
@@lillian9445 I meant that GB is closer to the Middle East than the United States is.
@sandramorryssa5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was strange when she said the bad guys had middle eastern accents.. but then the clip of Jafar sounded English.. maybe I missed something 🤨🤔
@kingkylie96555 жыл бұрын
I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.) But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point
@elizabethgatsby34425 жыл бұрын
I think they switched to his face to show is less-European features
@heididavison8165 жыл бұрын
That’s Exactly what I thought! Lol
@FortheLoveofMonsters5 жыл бұрын
Sandra Rose it’s an englishman doing a terrible middle eastern accent but we never noticed because we are largely ignorant of these cultures
@cheezarose5 жыл бұрын
He is a British man trying to do a hoge poge of Arabic/Persian/Indian accent while still maintaining the tradition of British villains speech.
@emiwells24405 жыл бұрын
I would kill to be a in lecture about her take on orientalism
@Snekfan885 жыл бұрын
Same
@IvanTheDarkAngel5 жыл бұрын
that’s embarrassing
@nickeramos99734 жыл бұрын
Read Edward Said's book, Orientalism. Everything's in there.
@ladylongsleeves31752 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Pandulse1235 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling this historian low-key doesn't like Aladdin
@codename4955 жыл бұрын
Pandulse123 Nothing low key about it. She has obvious disdain for it but a very professional demeanor.
@meganmcdonald11715 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of criticism for Aladdin over the last few years.
@Drewski2175 жыл бұрын
She elegantly dragged its issues the entire video, I lived!!
@PoutineProductions5 жыл бұрын
I didn't like it much either.
@kyleighwhite14095 жыл бұрын
Pandulse123 or anything American like this movie. They transformed it into something children can watch
@rachel_sj5 жыл бұрын
I love Jasmine’s historically accurate look vs her original one! 💕 😍
@GabbyGaburieru5 жыл бұрын
me too ♥
@chelseashamim91485 жыл бұрын
Bio Kimistry not really. It turned Asian than Arabic. And even the new Asian look was not completely accurate anyway
@cintsscha58994 жыл бұрын
x2
@lucyvlogandart51663 жыл бұрын
But she is wearing stays(corset) on a bare skin
@Avejitachula5 жыл бұрын
Why did they keep rushing the historian and cutting her off? It's frustrating.
@Sunny-Smiles12345 жыл бұрын
Elisabeth Chavarria omg yes it’s so rude!
@PeculiarGirlKelly5 жыл бұрын
I noticed this too, the narrator even sounds irritated... "Ok, moving on..."
@jlhabitan505 жыл бұрын
They weren't. She was explaining it all in one whole footage that needs to be cut into different parts during editing.
@amygodward44725 жыл бұрын
Well when the historian spends the first 5 minutes complaining about the film....
@ismata32744 жыл бұрын
@@amygodward4472 sure she was displeased. but around the internet, not only youtube, it seems normal for historians to complain about the movies. i mean, i am yet to see a video about a movie that a historian says yes! thats it! yes thank god someone did a good movie. the best i have heard was " oh! wow, the armours and the costumes were very accurate, so was the casting and buildings. (and then go on about the lack of spears, use of swords against armour, them bows are not warbows, and that person was historically two different persons, or that other person was banished so was not there when that skirmish happened, or that skirmish happened before the current monarch) but wow overall a very historically accurate movie compared to others, good job. watch this people. "
@3000A.D2 жыл бұрын
In the live action for Aladdin the outfits looked a lot like Indian clothing but the place looked Arabian but a bit of Persian and also india . They just mixed everything up , so chaotic
@sarahmccausland70355 жыл бұрын
Jasmine's accurate dress is even more gorgeous than her original costume
@iamchristian11295 жыл бұрын
So it looks like the outfits in the live action remake is the more historical accurate ones
@nathanielsantoso21735 жыл бұрын
jonathan freeman , jafar's voice actor, is an american
@ahhh41175 жыл бұрын
Jasmines were not
@ahhh41175 жыл бұрын
Arabian Mariam ur perspective is more informed and as a textile designer I can say it is valuable information
@iamchristian11295 жыл бұрын
Sara K but isn’t Aladdin supposed be a mix of india and Arab culture since the sultan’s palace is based on the Taj Mahal
@ahhh41175 жыл бұрын
Christian Salgado still applies tho
@taymay88364 жыл бұрын
I love how she wasn’t afraid to drag the obvious westernisation of Middle Eastern culture and people in Aladdin.
@diamondminer54592 жыл бұрын
I mean, it doesn’t really matter. The movie only ever claims to draw cultural and aesthetic influences rather than being completely accurate. Cultures, east and west, were meant to be blended.
@hiitsmeyanii5 жыл бұрын
GO OFF SIS. I love the addition of the social constructs of why the characters look the way they did!
@katrinepetersen25665 жыл бұрын
I get a lot of what she is saying, but one thing should be mentioned: Aladdin was mainly hand drawn. This means that it would be nearly impossible to make intricate embroidery on the charcters. I think it is allright that she tells about it (the video is about historical accuracy after all) but I do not want people to think it was out of laziness.
@caligulalonghbottom26295 жыл бұрын
AMEN. I hate the trashing of designers...they definitely researched all of this 'stuff' but in the end they had to make it SIMPLE for the animation as well as make it easily iconic and recognizable to kids as well as fit in with the time period it was created..the early 90s. While the green Ottoman sultana outfit for Jasmine is lovely, the tiara is too convoluted and complex, the veil would have been too hard to animate and the color green would clash far too much with Jafar. Red and green...yikes.
@najay68825 жыл бұрын
I understand but it isn’t too hard to make their outfits more modest to fit the actual facts, I’m not saying I want full hand drawn gold embroidery, just clothes instead of skin especially since they already did it with their previous films which were animated more than 40 years prior (I’m looking at you Cinderella and Snow White). The crop top on jasmine seemed wayyy more like what a belly dancer in the modern era would wear than a royal in the ottoman state, which to me seems like they’re fetishising the look and the stereotype rather than focusing on the character.
@fionafiona11464 жыл бұрын
Still culturally insensitive, as a star wars fans many Americas currently feel some mild version of the Disney effects, without the anachronistic hyperbole.
@katrinepetersen25664 жыл бұрын
N A Jay Oh yeah, I’m definetly on board with you there. Disney had that weird period of fetishising people of colour (Jasmine and Pocahontas to name some) Even as a kid I thought that was Pretty weird. I might not have know what Jasmine was supposed to look like, but I was not stupid enough to Think she was supposed to wear a crop top.
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
@@katrinepetersen2566 this is silly, I thought it was simply because where Jasmine lived the weather was hot. Besides, what's wrong about having a beautiful main character in a Disney movie? Belle was beautiful too. Snowhite was inspired by the beauty canons of the 30s, Cindarella and Aurore by those of the 50s.. There is nothing wrong in having a hot Pocahontas. Had she been uglier, you would have said Disney was racist because it drew only pretty characters for white people.
@Redrose-jq9rw4 жыл бұрын
The whole villains having Middle Eastern accents didn’t make sense to me cuz is it me or in every movie are the villains always British Russian or German they always have some strong European accent
@Jesseloves5 жыл бұрын
You better make a historically accurate version of Disney’s Cinderella.
@love23music15 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@izzieluv5 жыл бұрын
This would be kind of difficult because every culture has a Cinderella story.
@CafeDeDuy5 жыл бұрын
Lizzie Cottrell it would most likely be the Charles Perrault version which is the one with the glass slipper that everyone knows
@fictionmeister5 жыл бұрын
sounds so boring, all European dresses are almost exactly the same with a few minor nuances over the centuries
@franciscoalmeida83044 жыл бұрын
fictionmeister the biggest understatement about history I’ve ever heard!! 😂😂 just because you’re too lazy to research and study historical European clothing doesn’t make you right in saying it’s all the same, it’s like if you said that for Arabic Chinese or Indian clothing
@ivanbarrena15455 жыл бұрын
16:26 The level of detail in those drawings 😳
@mzoon88855 жыл бұрын
I am a middle eastern and i remember i was so shocked when i heard it was resembling us specially the castle looks very Indian and Jasmine’s clothing The new movie is more accurate but the dancing is so Indian and the music but I think it’s better than before.i like it anyways 👌🏼😊
@tiffprendergast3 жыл бұрын
Same
@aararara50013 жыл бұрын
I know right those dances are mainly inspired by Indian classical dance kathak.
@AudoricArt4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was real surprized that "jasmine" would have worn a corset. That always felt so western, but then again it's not like each area was in little fashion vacuums. And who wouldn't want some flattering shape wear if you could afford it. lol
@tyronechua4513 жыл бұрын
"I assume he'll wear underwear, but I'm not sure" OMG I died 💀💀💀
@naynay-w3g5 жыл бұрын
"Let's use the 18th century male European gaze to design the princess" "Great idea, bro" "Thanks, bro"
@criticalhard5 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church People love drama and negativity that's it.
@kingkylie96555 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church u have no idea what hypocrisy means bc ur being the biggest hypocrite and theres nothing "woke" about wanting to be historically accurate bc its honestly just facts. how can facts be a political statement unless u want to change those facts and then tell people "HA UR JUST BEING A SJW LIBERAL WOKE LOSER, WHO CARES ABOUT UR HISTORY" lmaooooo ur honestly the biggest hypocrite Wade
@vilwarin56355 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church as far as I remember, lots of teenager girls dressed like that when the film was released. Just look at the Spice Girls or Britney Spears, and you´ll see the inspiration for Jasmine´s attire (short top, big pants and visible midrif). Disney NEVER was historically accurate with the princesses, in fact, they tried to made them as fashionable as posible.
@_de_reve5 жыл бұрын
no it's not about being "woke" but educated. everyone who studies non european studies and cultures knows about the science paper "Orientalism". if you want to understand the issues. read it or just shut up because y'all moping about "negativity," even though it's clearly just critical thinking and academic research, look hella dumb.
@arsenikkimyrkytys5 жыл бұрын
@Wade Church I doubt children would find that very relatable.
@Nocturne225 жыл бұрын
The historian spent more than the first 5 minutes of the video DRAGGING Aladdin
@Echoingsunflowers9814 жыл бұрын
Nocturne22 the movie deserves it
@Ryan-pg1tw4 жыл бұрын
I dont think so
@cintsscha58994 жыл бұрын
Lol they asked her opinion! 🤷♀️
@KimmyQueen3 жыл бұрын
It pissed me off... This was supposed to be about wardrobe.
@LadyScaper3 жыл бұрын
She was giving context for the time and location. Can’t figure out “historically accurate” dress without time and location.
@meganjaime77285 жыл бұрын
How come we get a good illustrator for this video but not for any of the others? I would have loved to see Snow White, Mary Poppins, Tiana, Mulan, and the others given this much attention.
@stephaniecarson32235 жыл бұрын
This video is coming after the much criticised Mulan video. There was a lot of backlash about the illustrations in that one. So I imagine they got a better illustrator for this one. They can't really do anything about older videos unless they remake them
@mcwyman79285 жыл бұрын
The only truly terrible one was Mulan
@milliebilling53525 жыл бұрын
Because the left worships Islamic culture for some reason
@jaydee35524 жыл бұрын
@@milliebilling5352 stfu
@holoeveryone81054 жыл бұрын
I like Jasmine's historically accurate outfit better then the one she has in the movie
@hhh1234h5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t like the narrator in this, the repetition of the same things and the constant cutting off of the historian made it seem the narrator was trying to steal the show or something
@wotchermystic23354 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The narrator was completely unnecessary in this. Just let the exist talk. I promise, wet won't get confused.
@nathy03084 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it felt like the narrator was only interested in the fashion and was annoyed at the rest of it.
@kipabajracharya90954 жыл бұрын
I know right! The historian was brilliant but the narrator was so annoying. It seemed rude to cut off the historian.
@0roseable4 жыл бұрын
But that is surely the editing not the narrator. The narrator was probably given a script, and the editor chose how it was put together.
@arbitrarylib4 жыл бұрын
Right
@Bongobert5 жыл бұрын
You also have to keep in mind that some of the inaccuracies might have happened out of comedic purposes (like the first prince‘s underwear) or because of the animation. When you animate frame by frame, you have to draw a new picture for each frame. The more details a character has, the longer it takes to draw each frame. I‘m guessing that‘s why they simplified the sultans outfit.
@caligulalonghbottom26295 жыл бұрын
Exactly... plus children do not give two fucks about historical accuracy and the more complex outfits would be hard for kids to remember and identify when at walmart picking out action figures... They certainly researched historically accurate fashion but its a disney movie for goodness sake not a history lesson. And to be frank, its clearly more based on Mughal India than whatever Ottoman nonsense shes talking about anyway.
@antagonisticmedusa4 жыл бұрын
Jasmine’s outfit looks more like a Bollywood actress outfit than a princess tbh
@MeWe-fh1lu4 жыл бұрын
OMG thank you I knew when I was little that Jasmine was reminding me of something 😂
@julesazarcon47095 жыл бұрын
we got some literary history as well as fashion history that’s pretty.... lit 😎
@puckbryn35835 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you took meme mom’s advice, these informative and honest and focused videos have been incredible
@TheLadyPlantagenet4 жыл бұрын
I would be so glad if that were the reason! I love her
@sunnie7345 жыл бұрын
Isn't Jafar's accent British though? I'm English, and that is an English accent.
@MissSteam5 жыл бұрын
oh I can answer this they edited it at "the ruff" part to make him sound less British 1:34
@yejiii92044 жыл бұрын
@ In the original story Jasmine has fair skin but disney dismissed that like they the dismissed the origin of the story which is in Iraq and the designs and dresses that are more indian or south asian than Arab or even middle eastern
@shanayazaveri26204 жыл бұрын
@@yejiii9204 even in India the dress would be culturally inaccurate. Maybe the crop top was easier to animate because there won't be any rustling of garments or so. And yes, if the princess was of Iraq, she wouldn't be white but still be quite fair.
@tiffprendergast3 жыл бұрын
No
@Daliena5 жыл бұрын
Gosh ppl.... bad guys have accents - wow.... im Russian and literally every freaking movie my ppl are portrayed as bad, evil, horrible ppl.... at this point it isnt even funny anymore and I am getting pretty disappointed and avoid certain movies altogether... seriously none of you noticed how everyone but Americans are portrayed as bad by Hollywood? Consistently.... smh....
@kikiholland36955 жыл бұрын
A lot of Americans are tired of it too. It undermines otherwise okay movies! Makes them feel like racist propaganda.
@codename4955 жыл бұрын
I bet Americans in your movies are portrayed as stupid, greedy or selfish, I know for a fact they are in most countries yet here I am not offended or caring at all. Follow my example and don’t let the stupid beliefs of people who don’t know your culture hurt you.
@zoazede20984 жыл бұрын
So you only saw Cold War era movies, please shut up and look for some more filmography with quality (besides, most of villains in USA movies has British accent, because it sounds so freaking good and elegant, all directors said that)
@cb8854 жыл бұрын
Cold war baby..
@cosmic-creepers92074 жыл бұрын
Dalie's Art Lab - What I’ve noticed is that most villains have posh English accents.... As a Brit I take it as a compliment 👹😂
@kiratheusagiisworkshop52665 жыл бұрын
Well look at that, the live action was closer to historical accuracy.
@unicornsprinkles32775 жыл бұрын
Y’all finally got a good illustrator!!!!
@iamchristian11295 жыл бұрын
Can you plz do Pocahontas or maybe Moana
@mrmrswelch76415 жыл бұрын
Moana actually was pretty accurate if you watch the bonus features. The point is that its a childrens movie. Pocahontas in reality was forced to leave the woods, she took a Christian name, caught small pox and died. Good luck showing that version to children.
@jdouat75365 жыл бұрын
Yes Moana
@iriemonmon5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmrswelch7641 Just because its for children, doesn't mean it shouldn't have a level of accuracy. People should learn about the life of the actual Pocahontas and not obsess of keeping an animated movie's plot in tact.
@rebeccaartemisia964 жыл бұрын
MrMrs Welch they're talking about the character's clothes
@carelessdreamer4 жыл бұрын
Christian Salgado Moana’s clothing was actually pretty accurate. Her dress would’ve most likely been one piece rather than two, but the patterns and colors used are spot-on.
@hadjermohabeddine7645 Жыл бұрын
I have always known how the Ottoman Empire has inspired our traditions, but seeing the Aladdin outfits gave me flashbacks of my grandfather, who was photographed wearing a very similar outfit in the 1920s, with the exception of the turban being swapped for the tarbouch. It was a great video, and I really loved the historical part of it. I also wonder if what was called a "kaftan" is what we are actually calling a "caftan," just an evolved version.
@stahppls22935 жыл бұрын
THEY FINALLY HIRED A GOOD ILLUSTRATOR YAYYYYY
@zainmudassir29642 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid I felt Jasmine's costume to be too revealing 😳
@WinterWonder995 жыл бұрын
I would say Jafar's accent is more British/Theatrical/Shakespearean than Middle Eastern
@nom99444 жыл бұрын
“Historian fact checks aladdins costume” *starts giving everyone a lecture on why this movie is racist*
@itchyeyelids0_04 жыл бұрын
Carrot Artichoke she’s really right though
@bunnycortland3534 жыл бұрын
If not for this video, I never would have known
@CiaLaVirago3 жыл бұрын
As she should be, because it's true and entire cultures are being harmed because of it?
@sweatyskeleton73905 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Jafar have a British accent? I mean, don’t get me wrong, there are definitely things wrong with Jafar and the rest of the cast, but I’m not sure he’s the sole Arabic-sounding guy. Edit: I made a mistake here. Sorry guys!
@nickydubai5 жыл бұрын
Sweaty Skeleton yeah he had a British accent and he’s the biggest villain
@kingkylie96555 жыл бұрын
sure ill correct you! I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.) But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point.
@elizabethgatsby34425 жыл бұрын
I think they were trying to show less-European features
@karenstrong67344 жыл бұрын
But isn’t his voice actor American?
@miat7895 жыл бұрын
Wait you never explained why you rushed through the underwear...
@mrsloveydove45794 жыл бұрын
Because the layer 1 pictures would’ve probably all been nudes...
@fisebilillah44064 жыл бұрын
Even if someone used underwear back then it would be a linen diaper. People washed themselves after defecating just like today so hygiene was not a problem.
@TheLadydanni5 жыл бұрын
Okay so the artist for this episode is great! Also the historical context is great
@vavaxoxo33375 жыл бұрын
The Clothes: I am a kurdish Lady and I know Kurds wear this type of pants, both men and women. these pants were part of our traditional costume. even the fighters against IS wear them
@llll24904 жыл бұрын
kuwa jzhn labari aka rast nakai
@shanayazaveri26204 жыл бұрын
These types of pants, salwar, are worn in India too! I guess the Arabs introduced then to India
@westnilesnipes5 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to have Aladdin be Central Asian/Chinese like the original story.
@shanayazaveri26204 жыл бұрын
Yup, with Chinese fashion and architecture. I would be a different kind of beautiful.
@im_an_oyster5 жыл бұрын
Guys you are missing the biggest thing they got an actually good artist!!!
@andyb.40805 жыл бұрын
THE ART IS SO MUCH BETTER NOW THANK YOU SO FRIGGIN MUCH. Also props to the historian, it was really nice having someone who truly seems like they have an understanding of the topic at hand.
@mayarhesham84165 жыл бұрын
As an Egyptian growing up I hated Aladdin so much For me it was filled with stereo types and I always felt it disrespect the cultures they try to represent.. I mean I didn't know if they want to represent the Arabian culture or the Indian culture or even the Chinese culture and each one of them have more culture and history than the entire history of America I kinda loved the remake tho just because they solved all the things that pissed me.... And thanks for the video it was awesome 💜💜
@Ninkira5 жыл бұрын
Ooh thanks for sharing your feelings on it! Now I want to check out the new movie
@mayarhesham84165 жыл бұрын
@@Ninkira thank YOU for your nice replay 💜💜
@ropytube5 жыл бұрын
The remake is soooo good!
@marmary55555 жыл бұрын
*Persian and Persianate (Ottoman) cultures
@fisebilillah44064 жыл бұрын
As soon as Muslim heard it is a jinn helped a human there was already a boycot by scholars.
@sn12aa4 жыл бұрын
Aladdin is one of the Iraqi legends mentioned in the book 1000 nights
@WateverWatever045 жыл бұрын
Please do this again with is the 2019 version!! I really want to know the Dr's thoughts on it :)
@jacksonpauls34955 жыл бұрын
Aladdin is one of Disney’s greatest films and one of the greatest animated films of all time. But it’s understandably insensitive and hasn’t aged well as far as cultural depictions.
@rainluna97655 жыл бұрын
It can't be too accurate because the Sultan should've looked normal instead of Papa Smurf.
@e.s.r58095 жыл бұрын
01:27 Glamour, Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's point about accents-- that villainous characters in this film tend to have Middle Eastern-sounding accents, where the heroes sound American-- is correct, but the clip you've used is wrong. Jonathan Freeman's accent as Jafar is English. 'Proper' RP has tapped Rs-- that's not an attempt at sounding Middle Eastern, that's an upper-middle-class British accent. I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.) But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point.
@MMDMizuki5 жыл бұрын
I can understand why they never added the detail on the Saltan's outfit is because it would've taken a long period of time to animate them on any of the characters clothes
@nikkigallagher1634 жыл бұрын
There’s a few more Disney movies I would love to see fashion historians analyse the accuracy of in terms of main characters and their costumes: - The Hunchback of Notre Dame (especially Frollo and Esmerelda’s attires) - The Emperor’s New Groove (we all know Yzma’s outfit is played up for comedy, but the rest of the cast could prove interesting comparison for Incan attire) - Tangled (what era and place is Rapunzel supposed to be set in?) - Brave (How accurate is the depiction of clothing for medieval Scotland?) - Moana (Is it accurate or stereotypical? And when is it set exactly?)
@tiffanyi56455 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree about the accents, as other people have pointed out Jafar didn’t have a middle eastern accent it was English....I think Disney does a pretty good job at giving most of the evil characters English accents 😂😂
@lilith58655 жыл бұрын
Same thing with Uncle Scar lol
@happyfacefries4 жыл бұрын
For real. Scar comes to mind
@catherinemadeinbrasil054 жыл бұрын
I LOOOVED it! So many details, historical facts!
@harrisonschaufel73095 жыл бұрын
Historically accurate Little Mermaid please!!!
@sabreenrashid26984 жыл бұрын
Accurate to what, mermaid culture? Lol
@harrisonschaufel73094 жыл бұрын
Sabreen Rashid well since the original story was published in 1837 and judging by Ariel and Eric’s human wardrobe, the film takes place in the late 19th century. There could be potential in comparing Ariel’s pink and blue gowns with Victorian nautical fashion. And with her mermaid attire, it could be compared to historical art depictions of mermaids at the time.
@robertawalsh29954 жыл бұрын
@@harrisonschaufel7309 Yeah, you wish. Since "historical art depictions of mermaids" are nude.
@productiveinsomniactaterto86123 жыл бұрын
TIMESTAMPS FOR Y’ALL!: Aladdin: 9:33 Jasmine: 12:27 Her dad: 15:21
@megapedia975 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an analysis of the costumes in the remake as well!
@warqaanizar25273 жыл бұрын
As an arab myself this analysis is very accurate to what ive observed in history class lol
@warqaanizar25273 жыл бұрын
As much as the outfits you mentoined were so fun to look at growing up on historical drama shows lol- i think a big factor was the animation and how hard it wouldve been to draw all the traditional details
@LillyBeasty4 жыл бұрын
I love how this historian tears apart the inaccuracies and racism of the film and delivers the truth with a divine fury. Get it, girl.
@Oliver-yc5fi5 жыл бұрын
Way more historically accurate in the live-action version clothing wise.
@cvb795 жыл бұрын
"The villain has a strong Middle Eastern accent" Jafar has a stereotypical 'British' accent?? 😂
@midlight97585 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jeremy Irons is British
@mcwyman79285 жыл бұрын
@@midlight9758 it's not Jeremy Irons, it's Jonathan Freeman
@cvb795 жыл бұрын
@@midlight9758 Jeremy Irons is Scar in The Lion King 😊
@ep82465 жыл бұрын
Finally someone called that movie out.
@corriepenrod28425 жыл бұрын
At disney world the aladdin and jasmine actors wear outfits seemingly more historically accurate according to this. very interesting!
@bear40453 жыл бұрын
I Wonder what Jasmine's and Aladdin's wedding clothes would have looked like if they were historically accurate.
@caleidozkopie83445 жыл бұрын
"The royal palace in Aladdin seems like an exact replica of the Taj Mahal in Agrar India" It's definitely not an exact replica it's only inspired by it.
@sulmanafridi50795 жыл бұрын
Agra*
@caligulalonghbottom26295 жыл бұрын
The setting is clearly inspired heavily by Mughal India in general...as much as she wants it to be 18th century Ottoman Empire, the designers clearly did a pastiche...they didn't say...gee the original storyteller was 18th century Ottoman, lets go with that....eyeroll.
@mcwyman79285 жыл бұрын
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 She's trying to make it accurate, and that entails being specific to one region. Since the original animated film (as well as the remake) is kind of a mishmash of the Middle East and India, they have to pick one. And since the movie leans more to the Middle East (at the time, the Ottoman Empire), that's what they went with for this analysis.
@emmaeriksson71555 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS. LOVE HER. LET HER SLAY MORE MOVIES
@CharlotteStockton Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I am costuming "Disney's Aladdin Jr." on a zero budget and my costumes will reflect your much more accurate depiction of the appropriate type of dress!
@heroofthyme42375 жыл бұрын
2:00 “when the US started bombing Iraq” what a savage. I love it
@BUSeixas112 жыл бұрын
Because Iraq was bombing Kuwait
@mitsume_slay Жыл бұрын
@@BUSeixas11 and the us was bombing iraq
@kindhani81346 ай бұрын
@@BUSeixas11kuwait stole Iraqi oil and the Kuwaiti king refused to negotiate in diplomatic talks and went out calling Iraqi women prostitutes in a pubilc speech and the US embassy reassured Iraq not to intervene in case of a war
@MissFox-ix8zy5 жыл бұрын
6:11 is where they start talking about the outfit for everyone who just wants to see them
@OcarinaSapphr-4 жыл бұрын
I get the commentator’s issue with the lack of intricacy in the fabric designs (I felt the same when Carpet’s gorgeous movie design got sadly simplified for all the later renditions... I mean did you *see* how stunning the Carpet looked in the first movie?!)... But, what if the embroidery was monotone? Whitework was a popular type of craft, that incorporated many different kinds of embroidery; the white on white look gave the suggestion of delicacy & detail, of richness- without too great an expense (dyes were not always cheap). It wouldn’t be an issue for royalty, of course- but whitework could also serve to enhance the appearance of luxury fabrics- like embroidered velvet, or a rich brocade.
@quratulainashraf99964 жыл бұрын
Now I want a desi/Indian/Pakistani/Bengali Disney Princess movie
@ihaveproblemsitstrue69524 жыл бұрын
I always knew their outfits weren’t historically accurate and I didn’t even know that much a Middle Eastern clothing, Jasmines outfit was too revealing to be historically accurate. Apparently they wanted her to look like the American teenagers of the time. Then when the live action movie came out everyone was mad because the main characters weren’t dressed as revealing as they were in the animated movie. Then Jasmines slave outfit didn’t appear and they were even more pissed. I personally think that we shouldn’t sexulize slaves no matter what the ethnicity is.
@NewMoonStarlight5 жыл бұрын
I am loving this increasing attention to educating on the history of the stories and locations in these videos! It's so important to talk about the issues of race and historicisation in these ubiquitous media!
@tabitha97234 жыл бұрын
Princess Jasmine’s accurate outfit is BEAUTIFUL
@jessieirving57075 жыл бұрын
This video is much better than the previous well done
@cramerfloro59364 жыл бұрын
I read the original fairytale as a kid and when I saw this I was like "Ooooooh, this must have been a frustrating research!"
@awbi125 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite videos!!!!!! Keep them coming!
@HosCreates5 жыл бұрын
I was always confused about the weird mix and look of Aladdin. I feel like since India and the middle East are somewhat near each other maybe the town could be somewhere in-between with trading of ideas and cultures?
@kalebgonzales4009 Жыл бұрын
For the costume, I think the animators wanted it simple. Comparing to Aladdin’s movie costume and the revised. It is easier to drawing the first one, but that is just one aspect of my speculation because I tried historically animating characters with their clothes are a pain to draw again and again haha.
@mlpbatmoon45045 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that disney actually made their clothes accurate in the live action !!!! If you take a look at the accurate drawing and the l.a clothes you will see that they actually tried!!!
@lulylulyanka26765 жыл бұрын
this made so much sense! I always thought Aladdin was a story set in India. I was surprised to grow up and find out he was in the middle east!