Historical details of Gladiator II trailer explained

Hey mates, the Gladiator 2 trailer just dropped and this might be a perfect opportunity to do the first face video, so here I am.
#gladiator #gladiator2 #ancient #ancienthistory #ancientrome #romanempire #history #historical

[@herbert628]

I was not prepared for that facial reveal but im pleasantly suprised

[@Matt-vh2ci]

When Rome needed him the most he returned

[@sonidoo5908]

As an Algerian, berber who lives 13km from Caesarea, I can assure you that I'm not black.

[@notsocrates9529]

You sure about that? I think you are in denial, Hollywood clearly knows better than you and your own cultural heritage. [snickering heard offscreen]

[@zakback9937]

yh

[@Magplar]

dont tell the jewish writers

[@iratepirate3896]

Hollywood tiny hat people say otherwise!

[@HICHAM-73]

I am Algerian too and I know that Hollywood is trying to transform Roman history into an American copy with blacks and whites and soon Latin will mean Latino centurion from New mexico

[@metalema6]

Gladiator 2 - Back to the Hood

[@GAIVSCALIGVLA]

OMG lmaoooo

[@user-zp5pp2xg9m]

Hahahaha racism!

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

Septimius Severus was half Italian half Punic, literally nothing black about him. I am pleasantly surprised they did not try to blackwash the Severan dynasty Macrinus was a Berber not black, while he is insignificant making such changes warps pop culture's view of history.

[@GAIVSCALIGVLA]

It’s almost as if they never existed in Ancient Rome…

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

@@GAIVSCALIGVLA Bingo

[@JustinCage56]

His sons were definitely non-white though since Serverus' wife was Syrian, iirc.

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

@@JustinCage56 The Syrian elite which she was a part of were married with Romans for genarations. Caracalla and Geta were descendants of Cleopatra and Mark Antony on there mother's side.

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

@@JustinCage56 Severus' wife Julia Domna belonged to the Emesene dynasty which was a Roman client dynasty of priest-kings that became mostly of Roman stock thanks to generations of strategic marriages with the Roman elite. She was a descendant of Cleopatra and Mark Antony.

[@zephlodwick1009]

Pedro Pascal is probably too old to play Caracalla, but he looks just like him.

[@arthur-yq4ic]

he could play maybe septimius severus

[@AshmithKrenjith]

Yeah, i thought he WAS Caracalla when i first saw the trailer.

[@hexitg9817]

Pro tip: Dont put a red bar near the bottom of the thumbnail. For a sec I thought I had already seen it. Great vid!

[@TominusMaximus]

Wow, okay, thanks.

[@zakback9937]

Why can't they depict African emperors as average North Africans as that's the region these individuals were born and raised around and many having their origins there

[@epikurejczyk]

They just don't care about reality.

[@PunishedlLongshanks]

Hollywood is obsessed with making everything Black, so when they see the word "African" it's all the excuse they need.

[@invictuspublishinghouse]

Hollywood is obsessed with making everything BIack.

[@PunishedlLongshanks]

Because they're obsessed with putting Sub-Saharan Africans into everything, especially European history.

[@Retortellini]

Because BIacks _must_ be inserted into everything, especially European history.

[@GAIVSCALIGVLA]

It’s good to see a video like this, I like the new format. Ridley Scott is on top of his historical game as always, whether it’s black Romanz n’ sheit, sickly looking jewish emperors that in no way resemble their 100% olive oil human cannonball real life counterpart, or even gladiators riding rhinos. He’s always so accurate! He made an amazing film called Kingdom of Heaven almost 20 years ago and his depiction of medieval Europe being gray, Godless and covered in filth is just so accurate, it’ll blow your mind! I mean there were films he made like this one called The Duellists or something boring, but let’s be honest, nobody believed those clearly high fantasy outfits, and those ‘hussars’ never even existed, lmao. In all I can’t wait to see this with my wife (Drusilla) and her boyfriend!

[@TominusMaximus]

Like I said in the video - this movie has a potential to create Ancient Rome fans. Do you expect everyone to suddenly find a passion for Rome by reading Ammianus? You need to start somewhere.

[@GAIVSCALIGVLA]

To be honest bro I just want to see some historically accurate movies where not every 4th character is Pescennius N-Word. Other than that though it’s good to see you’re back again, seriously. This reminds me though will you be getting Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?

[@iexist3919]

@@GAIVSCALIGVLA extremely precise and accurate historical movies are expensive to make, and the payoff for them is hit or miss. To be honest, I'm happy that both gladiator movies are historical fiction, as you can have a story based in Rome without actually trying to set a historical narrative. Like Tominus said, this movie has great potential to inspire a new generation of ancient Rome fans, and I'm all for it.

[@notsocrates9529]

@@iexist3919 Gaius Pescennius Niger is not a troll name.

[@Dimitri88888888]

ye it is painfully innacurate, like for example the Colosseum apparently could only do naval battles under Titus's rule and the start of dometians rule. Dometian ordered the Colosseum to be renovated to have underground trap door capability which then made it impossible to flood the Colosseum as it would flood the underground sections where all the wild animals and gladiators were situated

[@mini.8]

NO WAY! New video!! FINALY! I Hope you will upload more often.

[@themosticonicscenesinmovie8737]

Macrinus was white. Not a single historian till this day mentioned opposite.

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

You look a bit like Augustus

[@TominusMaximus]

That is so nice, thank you!

[@iratepirate3896]

The nose of a caesar

[@metalema6]

Americans are now censoring the word "Black" because they think it's offensive... lmao

[@TominusMaximus]

Dont care lol. I want to say what I want.

[@myanabook]

no they aren't

[@josephnugent3065]

Even if Gladiator 2 sucks, at least we got a face reveal.

[@Camel1453scio]

Thing that bugs me is that in all Roman Hollywood media, they have romans being played by people with Northern European background. Romans had Roman features.

[@azubliss]

If there were to be an actual down to earth accurate film it would have to be done outside of Hollywood (of course it wholly depends on the topic, time and place). For instance, the 1970 film of Iphigenia, played by Greek actors (Irene Papas ❤️) acting in an ancient Greek story.

[@powerist209]

That and Caracalla and Geta look like Joffrey (depends if Ridley Scott was Game of Thrones fan or just he became shorthand for “psychopathic brat”…but I think Caracalla fits more since Geta died and got 1984 treatment.)

[@Alexq79-]

WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BOY CARACALLA?? No wonder he had disdain for plebs

[@iratepirate3896]

*Absolutely disgusting*

[@TonyFontaine1988]

You look Romanian

[@TominusMaximus]

I take that as a compliment, given that Romanian is closer to Latin than any other language.

[@michalschade7734]

@@TominusMaximusbut a lot of Romanians look like gypsies

[@Shtf132]

Tominus Chadicus

[@mohinish2273]

I am predicting it right now,they are gonna use the standard empire=evil,or in other words sonething irredemable which is a shame because the first one had a deep respect for the so called idea of Rome.

[@powerist209]

In honesty, Severan Dynasty being seen as beginning of (more) autocratic Rome and kickstarting Crisis Of Third Century (not to mention inflation crisis from military pay increases with Thrax staging a coup once Severus try to cut their pay) Plus being seen as originator of military strongman nature that even Diocletian’s divine right doesn’t work much (as far as I know, both it and Byzantine still inherit that issue and “open to everyone” nature of their throne).

[@markusmodus]

Originally I thought it might be the "Arch of Drusus" which was more likely an arch dedicated to Trajan along the Via Appia but if the two prominent buildings in the background are to be understood as the Flavian Amphitheatre (obviously), and I assume the temple is the Temple of Venus and Roma. For the Temple of Venus to be on the right hand side of the colosseum, you'd have to be walking along the Via Tiburtina or Via Nomentana situated in the north of the city, whereas the Via Appia is to the south. To my knowledge there not a known triumphal arch located in the north of the city. Also it must be stressed that the colosseum & Temple of Venus is too far too centrally located in the city to be seen from outside the walls of the city of Rome anyway. The trailer shows the colosseum being far closer to I presume are the Servian Walls but I wouldn't be surprised if they intended those walls to be the anachronistic Aurelian Walls

[@MorbSquad420]

Face Reveal!

[@azubliss]

Thank you for this thorough explanation! God bless.

[@mehdi7586]

so you are telling me they got actors of german/polish and english background to play septimius's sons but they went with an african american actor to play macrinus? holy shit lol

[@Alexq79-]

Hollywood

[@TominusMaximus]

My standards have been so lowered so I am happy with the least amount of bs I can get.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Yup its kind of funny that he made the Severans White (when they are likely Mixed Italian-Berber-Punic so Biracial by modern standards) and Macrinus Black (who is of a similar Mixed African Heritage) I guess because Severans are bad and Macrinus was killed because of Class background and so to parallel that with Modern Politics he did this.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Somehow it isn't an issue that a North European is playing Mediterranean people but laurd, don't let an African American play a Mediterranean.

[@mrgreen1888]

Commodus was killed in 192AD

[@Dimitri88888888]

the Colosseum apparently could only do naval battles under Titus's rule and the start of dometians rule. Dometian ordered the Colosseum to be renovated to have underground trap door capability which then made it impossible to flood the Colosseum as it would flood the underground sections where all the wild animals and gladiators were situated

[@tenzinalexander]

I believe the Lucius Varus that co-ruled with Marcus Aurelias died by a plague. Dead right about Caracala, soldiers respected him for he would carry the eagle standard when marcjing with them Should be very fit.

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

Not much evidence that he died of plague. There is however some mentions that Lucius Verus was a sickly man. Prior to going to the East to fight the Parthians, he became dangerously ill. Marcus Aurelius rushed to him & it took Lucius a few days to fully recover I think this bout of illness is what really killed him. Because on most of the websites I've looked. Most of them just state that Lucius died of "natural causes" . No mention of the Plague really And yeah, I'm not really a fan of the casting choices for Caracalla & Geta. They were of mixed Libyan-Syrian blood. But they look so pale & look like they came from Ireland 😂 They look nothing like the 2 brothers

[@powerist209]

Now part of me actually wish Caracalla and Geta story was a comedy. Maybe like frustrated dad and later mom trying to help the siblings until the tragic ending.

[@HICHAM-73]

Black Cleopatra .. black little mermaid.. black snow ( white ) .i heard about a project of a black Hannibal .. and now black Macrinus . . . Whats next ???

[@azubliss]

We’re all still waiting for a black Hitler. But with so much history to alternate, they ignore that topic.

[@GarfieldRex]

Well, just have to go and enjoy the film knowing is a complete fictional piece. No problem there 👌🏼 also, aren't you Portuguese? Ave Tominus

[@TominusMaximus]

Ave mate, nope, not from Portugal :)

[@dx3217]

Knowing riddly scott i don't expect historical accuracy to be high (napoleon). But he does know how to make a good movie so i have some interest on it.

[@emperoroak7331]

Hollywood logic North African = humm Blackk

[@myanabook]

"hmm how can i make this about black people"

[@azubliss]

@@myanabooknext thing you know they’ll be saying “we was emperors”

[@BOIZADAS]

wow face reveal!

[@wuthichaiauomsin6237]

and it way much better than roman god resurreted russell crowe to kill jesus after he dies for 200 years.

[@chedsalvia6270]

WTF THIS DUDE HAS A FACE?

[@Zxcv392-x5c]

Please talk about religion in the Roman Empire

[@jeanpaul5195]

Love your videos bro wish you'd make more

[@powerist209]

Was it me or it’s a lot different for me even for first time Severan Dynasty will be on silver screen? Like maybe Unbiased History and Richard Morris’ sketch on Roman Emperors (so imagining them as family sitcom and hard time seeing Macrinus as treacherous advisor since…keep seeing him at snapping at Caracalla’s cruelty and trying to make things mostly right before getting replaced with Dr Frankenfurter).

[@xXCgi22Xx]

I thought that they were going for Elagobolus as emperor. The portrayal of getta and caracalla is horrible, as much as they were sadistic spoiled brats, the eccentric and feminine image doesn’t fit them at all.

[@arthur-yq4ic]

great video as always after dovahhatty the most unbiased history channel

[@TominusMaximus]

What happened to him?

[@son_of_alandalus]

​@@TominusMaximus He went full zio,never go full zio

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

Yo, Tominus, what do you think of Spartacus: blood and sand?

[@GAIVSCALIGVLA]

I won’t lie I haven’t seen your face in a while and you actually look like the bust of Caligula I saw in New York.

[@TominusMaximus]

One says Augustus, the other Caligula... I prefer Augustus.

[@chayo5289]

Are you Croatian?

[@TominusMaximus]

Dobro došli

[@junnkler]

New video

[@josefmaster1188]

Caracalla (Marcus Aurelius Antoninus his real name as an emperor) and Geta appear in a family painting from Alexandria that you can see at the min 6:44 of this video, both had very light skin tone like their mother Julia Domna (Sirian origin), my opinion is that the removed face is the one of Caracalla because he destroyed Alexandria because some in the city had fun of the fact that he killed his brother and this maniac just for that killed thousands, he was a terrible emperor but the family had even worst memebers like Elagabalo his real succesor (Macrinus just ruled some months or a year and never went back to Rome after the disastrous peace he signed with the persians, so the character of the movie for me is not Caracalla, all is fiction so its like Elagabalo was the brother of Geta

[@urmom3943]

i love you but you mixed up who's playing caracalla and geta... caracalla is played by joseph quinn and fred is playing geta. i love you though im sorry to correct just check letterboxd please!!!

[@dogeguy7646]

2:07 192

[@warsharkproductions6550]

6:28 "Nobody is going to mind" Well, I do, it's still inaccurate and you should too. It's kinda your job to be historically accurate.

[@TominusMaximus]

Let the People have some fun man.

[@warsharkproductions6550]

@TominusMaximus I didn't say people can't have fun.

[@JustinCage56]

In some defense, Ridley Scott has never made his films super historically accurate. You should be more upset with Denzel Washington playing Hannibal in the new film he's doing soon.

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

​@@JustinCage56I am, Hannibal was 27 years old when the Second Punic war broke out. Denzel is in his 60's. I love the guy as an actor, but he's not the right choice at all But I really dislike the casting choices of Caracalla & Geta. They look nothing like their historical counterparts

[@ikengaspirit3063]

​@@TominusMaximus who said painted statues aren't fun? They could have some real good painters (instead of archeologists) paint it to look life lack instead of this.

[@sirleroyale4412]

😂 2:34

[@TheRoidemortetfleur]

This is a drama hollywood movie. Not a documentary. Hello. Are you going to tell me a mystery book isn't real. Yes this takes place in roman time. Yet it is just a drama fiction about the time. It looks good to me. Rome imploded. This indicates that and this trailer seems to take that in the next step.

[@azubliss]

Everyone who cares is aware of the historical inaccuracies. He’s only explaining the topic for educational purposes, not saying to not watch the movie itself. But some people who are not aware of the inaccuracies, will take it as something from actual history. Unless they have a desire to know the truth, that they shouldn’t take Hollywood or Netflix as their history teachers, then this video as many others explaining like Metatron serves to bring that knowledge out into the light. Salve

[@TheRoidemortetfleur]

@@azubliss If you are criticing a trailer if it looks entertaining or not great. The people that edit trailers are not the director. So even that should only be done superfiically. If you want to take a deep dive into a movie historically. Atleast wait for the whole movie before you pretend you know the whole movie already.

[@carlomagno7092]

Apart from the historical inaccuracies which oppisite to gladiator 1 this time are quite big, the greatest problem i see is the same of Napoleon, everything is ugly, unpleasant and depressing. The the arch you are looking for doesn't exist.

[@wuthichaiauomsin6237]

gladiator 1 was historical inaccuraies as hell.

[@carlomagno7092]

@@wuthichaiauomsin6237 the only major historical inaccuracy of gladiator 1 is commodus killing his father.

[@michalschade7734]

Rome never had a 🐵🙊 emperor

[@user-zp5pp2xg9m]

Just say the hard r man

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Based and this should be higher pilled.