History of the US empire and deep state pre-WWII (with historian Aaron Good)

[@nobodyhere4667]

Learning the real American history makes the present day America make so much more sense.

[@MatewanMassacre]

It gets even better, and goes even deeper, the more you learn.

[@nads5907]

Ben just gets more and more interesting.

[@zookzookski8681]

Thanks Gents ,been interesting ,chillin✌

[@believein1]

Thank you for exposing darkness, Ben.

[@teardrop720]

This is really groundbreaking and a paradigm shift in terms of understanding American political economy and history. Thank you Aaron, Ben and Seamus.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Brilliant. Thanks!

[@justice.freedom.mankind]

Thank you very much to all for teach us about the History of the 'US Deep State'. We are always learning! Keep up, Ben, with your outstanding work because the world needs independent and truthful analysts, as you!

[@peacehippietrollster1120]

Nice. Maybe Ben should cover the empire of the cities - Vatican, city of London and DC. That would be an eye opener for the masses. The cradle and Cruz of western imperialism.

[@danintheoutback1]

The history of Vatican City is a very interesting topic, but the US Empire is the focus now, as it is the USA & not the Vatican, that is very likely to force the world into WW3 very soon.

[@jedidiahsojourner1917]

Yup. If there is a Satan this is where he resides.

[@danintheoutback1]

@@jedidiahsojourner1917 I don’t know if Satan lives at the Vatican, but I definitely know that Satan has a permanent resistance in Washington DC.

[@kathleankeesler1639]

Read The Racket 2nd Edition by Matt Kennard @kennardmatt

[@keishakeish8323]

Appreciate Ben's effort to bring us this very interesting piece of US history. Keep up the good job. 👍👍👍👏👏👏

[@sharlagardner]

Howard Zinn would be proud! Great program. Thank you.

[@sarahali6413]

Thank you 🙏 excellent program

[@soniksocialist]

Can honestly say that you guys and your views are invaluable.

[@mars54mars54]

LOVING this series, absolutely fascinating treatment of true criminal history. PLEASE release your book as an e-book, Aaron!!!

[@davidgamble955]

Right. Educators❤

[@longw01]

EPIC series! kudos!

[@JoJo-vg8dz]

Highly informative. The criminal career of the US fascist regime.

[@gregoryallen0001]

these recaps are awesome thank you ❤️

[@Alexxxxander]

By the way, an interesting fact is that Russia and the United States have a glorious history of relations between our countries since the time when the United States fought for independence and the Russian Empire was the first power that supported the United States. And also Catherine the Great awarded the American "father of the American Navy" John Paul Jones the rank of Vice Admiral. It is a pity that our relations between our countries are at the bottom stage. Greetings from Russia 🇷🇺🤝🇺🇸

[@danintheoutback1]

I never knew that… thank you.

[@SealDaniel]

So what is the “glorious history of relations” the US and Russia has? What you just said is nothing- no offense.

[@Alexxxxander]

@@SealDaniel Perhaps for you this is not something important and significant, but from a historical point of view it is important. And this is just one example.

[@Alexxxxander]

@@danintheoutback1 🤝😉

[@gfarrell80]

Gotta admit though... the Russians at that time probably just wanted to poke the British in the eye.

[@md.muzahidulislamsamrat8037]

In 1939, Albert Einstein wrote: “There could be no greater calamity than a permanent discord between us & the Arab people. Despite the great wrong that has been done us, we must strive for a just & lasting compromise with the Arab people. Let us recall that in former times no people lived in greater friendship with us than the ancestors of these Arabs.” (Einstein & Zionism by Banesh Hoffmann, 1975, p. 242) During his testimony before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in January 1946 when asked if refugee settlement in Palestine demanded a Jewish state, Einstein replied: ‘The State idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with narrow-mindedness & economic obstacles. I have always been against it.’ Historian Dr. Alfred Lilienthal related a conversation with Einstein: “Dr Einstein told me that he had never been a Zionist & had never favored the creation of the State of Israel. Also, he told me of a significant conversation with [Chaim] Weizmann [leader of the World Zionist Organization.] Einstein had asked him: ‘What about the Arabs if Palestine were given to the Jews?’ Weizmann said: ‘What Arabs? They are hardly of any consequence.’” (What Price Israel? p. 131) Einstein: ‘…my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, & a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain - especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state.” (Out of My Later Years, Citadel Press, Secaucus, New Jersey, 1956; p. 263) Einstein turned down Ben-Gurion’s offer to be the first president of Israel. “In a letter to his friend Ezriel Carlebach, he wrote that he would not be able to perform the duties of the office according to his conscience, & that he would have to tell the Israeli people things they ‘would not like to hear.’” (Haaretz, Feb 3/15)

[@kween.khairaaa]

I really like this historian he is uniquely insightful & vv interesting to listen to

[@GEORGEEEJ]

Incredibly informative. Thank You

[@cogniktive1147]

Good series. Please make a playlist

[@glynnismacpherson504]

I am really enjoying these history lectures. Thankyou

[@kodyk124]

Great work, guys! This was fascinating to listen to.

[@charleskesner1302]

Excellent series. Thanks Ben.

[@0311ohrah]

Thank you for history lesson I missed in school !

[@mathquir190]

Wow never realized you made this. I'm gonna fall into the rabbit hole for sure. Thanks guys !

[@skulkingskunk4032]

this series is outstanding

[@denniscurry6464]

Thanks guys

[@aetiusflavius3853]

Excellent series, keep up the great work!

[@limahana7420]

Mahalo for sharing. Other good sources are Gerald Horne and Howard Zinn. Highly recommend studying their works

[@josem.deteresa2282]

I would suggest you add numbers to each of the episodes and make a sort of playlist or at least an index of the series. Thank you all three.

[@GlobeHackers]

It's a brilliant must-read book.

[@kathleankeesler1639]

This was great thank each of you for your endurance, courage, tenacity, integrity, compassion and determination. Woodstock generation Granny

[@mcuburu]

History is in the details as always.

[@soniama5246]

Thank you

[@zeniktorres4320]

Very interesting. He talks very well and has a bright future ahead of him to continue to educate the people of the world. The history of the US in China does not get enough coverage. Will certainly be buying his book.

[@MrPatrickslovell]

Brilliant dialogue. I love the scope of it.

[@chrissplash44flos]

Love this series Love the work you do

[@GETJUSTICE4U]

"We don't have colonies, we have territories" Victoria Newland.

[@jackshultz2024]

“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.” Edward Snowden, writing from exile as a fugitive in Russia.

[@liamporter1137]

Great insights and surfacing the truths.

[@averayugen8462]

A comprehensive awesome series on the same subject: Danny Sheehan's "Trajectory of Empire", its all online...still.

[@hansoete3595]

WoW such a great analyses

[@philgwellington6036]

The whole is far greater than the sum of the parts. That's why this synthesis of history is so helpful, l thankyou all.

[@johntravena119]

Fascinating - so much I’d never heard before. I need a new pair of glasses so I can get reading on this stuff.

[@Ryan21888]

Excellent.

[@coreycox2345]

I think the closing of the American frontier must refer to there no longer being a threat by Indians in land disputes. The Homestead Act provided a potential economic fresh start. This is excellent on how some of these systems were put in place.

[@Dan-DJCc]

Don't forget about the huge bank lending from USA to Europe, especially Britain prior to and during World War One which created the profound risk of default and instigated the necessity of USA military action to enter and help win the war to guarantee return of the banks' principal.

[@chankiSlim]

Thanks for this!

[@WilliamFMiloglav]

Brilliant discourse.

[@Jimi_Lee]

Good show.😊👍

[@peterc.4143]

Very interesting, and thank you for doing this series. However, I was a bit disappointed that you completely skipped the Civil War! I do hope that Mr. Good in his book has at least some mention of how the Deep State evolved and grew during the Civil War, but I was surprised that you guys went from the Mexican American War in 1848 directly to the gilded age, and skipped over probably the most important event in American history, in terms of defining the role of the Federal Govt in establishing its supremacy. Some notable topics regarding the Civil War that I think have to be related to the development and intensification of elite power in American politics (just from my admittedly amateur historical understanding of the period): the establishment of the Pinkerton security forces, an essentially paramilitary force that was deputized to provide private security to Lincoln, which eventually evolved into a union-busting group of thugs by the early 20th century; Lincoln’s suspension of the writ of habeus corpus; Sherman waging “total war” on the civilian population of Georgia and South Carolina, establishing a pretty crazy precedent of the federal govt waging all out war on its own citizenry; the intensification and modernization of the military industrial sector, in which the Union saw a huge growth in government contracts to build new and more destructive and deadly weaponry, and established for the first time an organized and wide-ranging spending program that utilized the private sector in the production of weapons of war; the Union victory in the Civil War solidified the inexorable expansion and supremacy of the Federal Government, essentially creating the modern American security state. There are other interesting topics in there, too. I suspect it’s a touchy issue, because the Union cause in the traditional mainstream telling of American history has been sort of mythologized, and for obvious reasons, as it dovetailed with the completely righteous abolitionist movement, and the ultimate ending of slavery in the U.S. But on deeper analysis, some interesting holes in the narrative emerge. Lincoln never promised, nor even intended (as far as we know), to end slavery until the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863, but even then it didn’t actually free a single slave, because it didn’t apply to the slave-holding territories in the Union border states. From 1861 when the conflict began, the logic of the war was apparently “to keep the Union together”, but it baffles the modern student of history what that actually meant, and why other diplomatic means weren’t used by Lincoln to avoid the catastrophic bloodshed that resulted. Once the brutality and bloodiness of the conflict became apparent, Lincoln only further escalated the military engagement, and as far as I can tell, very little efforts were made to stop the war through diplomatic measures. It was an all-out slaughter that for the first two years, at least officially, had nothing to do with slavery. Some of the worst violence against black people in the North came precisely in 1863, once Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation and also instituted forced conscription (unless you could afford to pay someone to fight in your stead). Popular riots in opposition to the war saw white Northerners lynching black people in the street, indicating that to the average white northerner, ending slavery did not appear to be a meaningful cause to fight a war over. Given all this, one has to wonder why the moneyed industrial powers in the North were so interested in ending slavery at all. The abolitionists were seen as “radical” all the way up to the beginning of the war, and Lincoln himself campaigned in 1860 only on not expanding slavery in additional western territories, NOT on abolishing it altogether throughout the country in the states where it already did exist. Why then did the Southern states secede in 1860? They just didn’t trust Lincoln’s promise not to end slavery? Why would Lincoln pursue a violent and repressive war campaign against what he insisted remained part of the country he governed, presumably if he didn’t have the support of the Northern industrial “deep state” actors? Why would northern industrialists care about the slavery issue, if it enabled them to purchase cheap raw materials (cotton) for textile manufacturing? Presumably having to pay farm labor a wage would incur on manufacturers’ profits as well. So I’m assuming some deeper motive regarding shifting to a wage labor model was somehow seen to be in the interests of Northern industrialists, but I would definitely appreciate a more in-depth explanation of this, from the perspective that Aaron and Ben bring, regarding deep politics. I imagine also that it’s a tough topic to engage in, given how close some of these narratives on the surface appear to be to the “lost cause” narrative of the South, and of course the fact that the Civil War did indeed end slavery, which was a moral abomination. So any questioning of the motives or methods to fight a war that in effect did end slavery might open one up to an accusation of being sympathetic to the Southern cause or to slavery itself. But I think a revisionist look at the Civil War need not imply any approval of slavery at all. It just requires an honest accounting of the historical legacy of what actually happened in America’s most deadly war (+660k people dead). The level of bloodshed was just staggering, with battles regularly seeing tens of thousands of men dying within hours in one afternoon. And yet the narrative of the Civil War being an idealistic, good vs. evil conflict to end slavery continues to persist in the American historical imagination. Just as you did with the Revolutionary War and the two World Wars, I would love to see if Mr. Good would agree with my general takes on the conflict, and whether or not he also has a case for “debunking” the Civil War narrative, just as he has with the other conflicts etched into the American consciousness as holy and morally untouchable.

[@sharlagardner]

They said thre will be more discussion of the Civil War. It IS discussed here though.

[@josephcaldwell7692]

Aarons take has a foundation that invokes the work of C.W. Mills. Mills was influential for me back when I was serving as a Cold War intelligence analyst (85-89). Having worked in the same room with elite warlords was a lesson in arrogance and militarism. I owe a lot to other researchers like Aaron whose work helped a young Marine to see the light. I hope it helps others in their search for reality.

[@joecool3332]

Hi folks!

[@notrueflagshere198]

I know the ideas, but not all these details. But doesn't it mean that the empire is just coming out of the closet? The human critter will accept circumstances which work for the individual critter. We may wish that people weren't being killed over there, or starving over there, but we all know that we do not want to be killed or to starve. Better them than us. Only when Americans are starving themselves will they overthrow the regime. Maybe not even then.

[@guy-sl3kr]

Americans are already being killed and starved, but it's largely not white Americans. As per usual, the people who bear the brunt of this country's exploitation are racialized, segregated, and denied any political power so their oppression goes mostly unacknowledged by the general public. What will it take for the American working class to put aside the divisions imposed on them by their bosses, I wonder?

[@bruceclark1705]

Can't you improve the sound ?? very difficult to hear- otherwise, very good

[@anonymousee716]

just fyi: bootube is inserting a 16 minute ad in this series regularly. sabotage of your economics.

[@syedhuda9957]

Can't help but adding the current "Paradigm Shift" with breaking the monopoly of Media, by Instant Digital Communications equipped with Camera Smart Phone at retail scale, thus the birth of Citizen's Journalism, is beyond power of assimilation of the "Exceptional lot of yester era" Helliluja on that count !

[@markod7662]

16:10 i thought that France lost all its north american possessions in the seven years war 1756 - 1763. By the time of Napoleon, France did not have a colony in north america. Or am I wrong?

[@rcmrcm3370]

Louisiana, Haiti, St. Pierre,....

[@americanexception9407]

It was a weird thing...iirc, Louisiana went to Spain, then reverted back to French control...before being sold by Napoleon to Thomas Jefferson for $15M after the French had lost Haiti to revolution

[@fun_ghoul]

St. Pierre and Miquelon, off the coast of the Avalon Peninsula of Newfoundland, are French colonies to this day. They were used mainly by Basque fishers, and are now basically just occupied so France doesn't lose them.

[@markod7662]

@@fun_ghoul ok, thanks.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@markod7662 if you consider the Caribbean to be North America, there's also St. Martin, St. Barthelémy, Guadeloupe and Martinique.

[@harthagan23]

I love the content but I’m having a hard time hearing even with the volume all the way up.

[@kathleankeesler1639]

Michael Collins Piper’s book Final Judgement

[@Bisquick]

Since mentat Michael Hudson was mentioned a few times, I happened to have uploaded some of his former RT appearances about debt forgiveness and its history/imperative necessity here if anyone's interested: kzbin.info/aero/PLARCVG1WMUmv2kflNGM6zBaHJi2z9ZNcJ

[@vincetagleoficiar2860]

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[@carletonchristensen9971]

It would be good to analyse the R2P doctrine of individuals like Powers in the light of your account of how, at the beginning of the 20th century, the US saw itself as entitled to intervene on behalf of "minimum standards."

[@matthewmezgersr6591]

There’s a reason true American history isn’t taught in the public schools….

[@matthewmezgersr6591]

The drug dealers in the suites write the laws imprisoning the drug dealer in the strrets

[@lefty4letty]

'get me the images and I'll get u the war' said hearst {citizen kane} to his reporter when he got to Cuba and said nothing was happening.

[@ikonoclastic]

@41:30 Aaron was thirsty :) nice save Ben.

[@carldrogo9492]

Aaron Good was whispering in this podcast.

[@patri153]

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[@sf6199]

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[@erikeparsels]

Elihu Root's use of the phrase "minimum standard of treatment" refers to the granting of protections for property rights that US merchants and foreign direct investors demanded from any country where they had investments. In other words, they wanted to claim that investments by US capitalists in other countries were to be treated as if they were sovereign colonial territory in land, and that any infringement on US capital would evoke a military response.

[@infinitafenix3153]

This is very interesting and good work, but you should write the number of the episode in the title, sooo important!

[@NinaCantHearU]

Wish Aaron microphone was louder or talk louder Aaron

[@jackshultz2024]

In regards to the financing of the Industrial Revolution in Great Britain, in 1750 the value of the slave trade that passed through the port of Liverpool in that year exceeded the value of all the existing fixed capital in the UK at the time, according to Marxist economist Ernest Mandel.

[@carletonchristensen9971]

Is it true that Taylor was poisoned? Has there not been, in the nineties, an exhumation and investigation of his remains which revealed no signs of poisoning? My understanding is that he died of gastroentiritis or some such.

[@rcmrcm3370]

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[@indonesiamenggugat8795]

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[@henryjosephfontaine]

Five Times August - God Help Us All

[@meggallucci5300]

Way way too much to digest. This should have been broken up, possibly chronologically. We have Jackson, Franklin Roosevelt. Lincoln, Poncho Villa, Geronimo, Thomas Jefferson and others to numerous to mention, lumped together, and possibly related or unrelated. Interesting for sure but much too confusing. Head is spinning here. Aaron has done much work, but explaining it to others is critically important and not accomplished here at all. Hoping the book clarifies all this confusion. Tuning out halfway through.

[@alonzocrawford3212]

Dam good brain food

[@JuliusGalacki]

The professor speaks so softly it's hard for me to absorb this, even with my sound on maximum. In future episodes, could you pay attention to his sound levels.

[@TheHistoryofPropaganda]

Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party (1912) was the first Progressive presidential platform. Inspired by Herbert Croly's A Promise of American Life. The same men who founded The New Republic as a pro Roosevelt rag are the residents of the House of Truth: Herbert Croly, Walter Lippmann, Louis Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter, Walter Weyl et al. Roosevelt's, The New Nationalism, Wilson's, The New Freedom, Lippmann's, New Republic, Beard's, The New History, The New Spirit, and Weyl's The New Democracy all published within about a year of each other, almost all in the year 1913. These are the liberal radicals - Progressives - that put 'new' in 'new world order'.

[@SI-qp7cm]

Not the best format. The USA will go down as a global empire that couldn't win a conflict on its own. A global empire that didn't last more than 20 years. A Global Empire that rose after 1989 and fell in 2008. Those of us who study this from the outside see it very clearly. Now to top it off $35 Trillion debt, broke treasury (Not even ranked in the top 10) , dilipated culture - constant riots, falling standard of living, dropping life expectancy, mass incarceration and mass intoxication. They took over from the British who enjoyed a century of absolute dominance. It is now the age of the Chinese - who have never needed an Empire to dominate. Just a side note China's treasury is larger than the G7 COMBINED.

[@Dragonbhat]

What do you mean by Treasury? How is Chinese Treasury bigger than US Treasury?

[@billmitchell2080]

You don't get it, not one part. Do you have any idea how much money the rulers of American empire profited from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars of the 21st century? Banks, US steel, the whole aerospace industry, and the arms industry made trillions. This is just the tip of the empire iceberg. Simple minds have simple thoughts.

[@matthewspears3786]

Hi from socialist 2064 America.

[@jimmytouchdown7146]

Oh Yeah, Goody and The Goodrop Gondoliers

[@Guitarpima]

Why do criminals get the sole distinction of being called capitalist? You are a smart person, you are a capitalist. By using incorrect language, you give them permission to be criminals. Capital - head or top, I am, tally or contract. Richard Wolf has the best description for capital. He says, “your brains, your muscles, what you produce”.

[@zima3181]

Ummm, without "knowing the right people" it'll be "your brain, your muscles, someone else's fat pockets...thanks and bye." It's not unique to capitalism, but it's very much woven in.

[@marchendrickson1065]

Your analysis is superficial

[@TkcUsHegemony]

And how and why ? Don't just throw opinion, provider some facts to counter.

[@Anubis-hm7ro]

Thank you

[@HadddHarami]

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