- Watch my latest history documentary here:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWSrommLlquEp80 New Crusades video folks. Hope you like it. Whilst The First Crusade was a fascinating event, so was its immediate aftermath. I'm going to chart the rise and fall of the Crusader States from 1099 until the clash of Saladin and Richard the Lionheart a century later. If you want to help me achieve this goal, you can do so here:- www.patreon.com/historytimeUK Thanks!
@glasschinjoshua15016 жыл бұрын
History Time King Baldwin IV
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
The Leper King. His script is written, just have to do the video for it.
@muethepoe49426 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your focus on this part of Medieval history. I have first come to know of this through a biography of Muzfar al-din Kukubri published in Arabic in the 1960s. He was the ruler of Mosul. What was their status on that conflict from your point of view?
@mohsy46866 жыл бұрын
History Time - could you do a video on the following crusades, with Baibars, King Louis V of France, etc,
@penandsword43866 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thank you, guys
@FlashPointHx6 жыл бұрын
Lovely video as always. Aleppo is one of those cities that happened to reside in the cross roads of civilizations and history. Always in the crosshairs of someone
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words. That's right. Such a strategically vital position.
@pete23896 жыл бұрын
So, seeing himself surrounded by would-be invaders, Lulu gets them all to fight each other, saving the city without fighting a single battle? Talk about playing the game of thrones
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Varys immediately sprung to mind as I was reading about this fella.
@ricardoguanipa82756 жыл бұрын
Damn that Eunuch had a lot of balls taken over Aleppo
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Definitely reminded me of Varys from Game of Thrones.
@thomasnever25526 жыл бұрын
Metaphorically speaking 😂
@StefanMilo6 жыл бұрын
Such a well researched video. This series on the crusaders is going to be the bomb diggity!
@PeopleProfiles6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as ever buddy, well done.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
The People Profiles thanks buddy!
@kohinarec65805 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos: well made, nicely paced, enough maps and name reminders to keep the audience on track of the often complicated events, but made so that it is possible tonjust listen to the narration without watching the screen. Great for driving or walking.
@pad12584 жыл бұрын
I just discovered THE best history channel ever! The videos on the Crusades are amazing! Thank you for all your hard work.
@TS-wf2rn6 жыл бұрын
You do such a great job with these videos! You are a wonderful storyteller and the music you select in your videos is always so extremely good. Thank you!
@mahmodeissa91726 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your amazing work. Thoughts and prayers for Aleppo .
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. Same here
@qweeq146 жыл бұрын
First the Serbian knight who fought for Beyazıt now Turks allying with crusaders I couldn't imagine these things, they do not teach these in highschool it's so different from the narratives we used to get. Who could've guess ancient people did whatever they had to for their benefits.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
That's right. The reality of history is always far more nuanced than it seems at first glance. It's never black and white. Usually more akin to power plays between the leading warlords, generals and kings.
@TheSamuraijim876 жыл бұрын
It all plays out like some sordid historical drama. HBO or BBC could make this into a fantastic period piece. There are so many varied and amazing characters who end up taking the stage. It would be amazing to watch. It would also be desperately needed, because the only piece currently dealing with anything remotely connected to this era is a show called "Resurrection: Ertugrul", about the father of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, which, while interesting, is clearly catered toward Turkish nationalists and leaves a lot of the historical minutiae out of the story in favor of cartoonish portrayals of anyone not a Turkic tribesman. The only correction I'd make is that I think Sanjar ought be classified as the last true Great Seljuk Sultan, considering that he outlasted and outplayed all his brothers, and after his death the whole Great Seljuk empire began to finally collapse. I'd also really like to see a series here on the Ghaznavids and Ghurids, and the evolution, from those realms, of the Delhi Sultanate, which i think deserve their own piece of the narrative, since they were historically so influential.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraijim87 I'm amazed at the lack of films and tv shows on the high Middle Ages. It's the most incredible period of history. Reads better than any work of fiction ever conceived. I will eventually be covering the Ghaznavids and the origin of the sultanate of Delhi. Always love reading your comments, cheers!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
TheSamuraijim87 Oh and good point about Sanjar.
@TheSamuraijim876 жыл бұрын
History Time if you want an interesting project, try covering the Great Seljuks all the way down to their collapse in 1194. Thanks for your kind words.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
You may be able to tell- I've become engrossed in the history of the Seljuks over the past month or so. I'm looking forward to studying their decline and fall after the rise of the Zengids and Saladin.
@thedruiddiaries63786 жыл бұрын
...and a challenge to do without it turning into propaganda.
@dogukan1276 жыл бұрын
I love you man. These stories would be overlooked by many.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
I love you too :)
@humo896 жыл бұрын
As always exceptional work. I look forward to the changes that inexplicably come with time. With your voice and some great animations this channel could be a power house.
@ignaerium4876 жыл бұрын
Well done! I always like your videos.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Ignaerium thanks very much!
@troydavis16 жыл бұрын
Yeah! first comment! I love this part ofthe world and history because its so complex and ever-changing and its the meeting point between Europe and Asia. Great job !
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
It is a fascinating part of the world. Glad you liked it. much more on the way
@tomasf2476 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing such an excellent video. Really enjoyed it Well done for all your hard work and good scripting. Nice one
@deanbuss16786 жыл бұрын
BRAVO! HT. Can't wait for part 2 👍 Coincidentally three factions fighting in the area now.🤔
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how many of the factions that existed back then are still fighting today. My heart goes out to Syrians everywhere.
@tancreddehauteville99836 жыл бұрын
Another Amazingly detailed documentary,Thank you very much
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it mate. Thanks
@theirishrevolutionchannel10876 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Are you gonna focus more on the Levant for a while?
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
The Irish Revolution Channel For a little while. 1000-1200 in general is my jam at the moment
@PcCAvioN6 жыл бұрын
Really liked the video, keep it up!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
PcCAvioN thanks!
@uninterruptedrhythm41046 жыл бұрын
wooo you got a sponsor! great courses seem to sponsor every historical youtuber, nice!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They are great sponsors for us history nerds
@oran95195 жыл бұрын
1000 years later and humanity is still tearing Syria to shit fighting over aleppo
@kacchank86965 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@stephenmichalski26436 жыл бұрын
Damn you do great work........rather in depth telling of events seldom told and rarely known.Head and shoulders above the standard commercial crap done of history we've all heard of a bizillion times before.Priceless.
@billgriffin406 жыл бұрын
Great video. Well done. Very informative. Love your videos. Looking forward for more.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! So much more on the way!
@papafrancesco29376 жыл бұрын
so sad that it's being bombed to the ground at this moment, such a shame
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
It is incredibly sad.
@mogts6 жыл бұрын
@LDN EDD The USA have fom the start of the syrian war have been in an alliance with Isis/alqaeda. not to mention the iraq war which started all the mess, an unprovoked attack. i dont think it is wrong to call what the americans are doing state terrorism. war on terrorism or rather war of terrorism.
@kacchank86965 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryTime who cares
@vladdrakul78514 жыл бұрын
@@kacchank8696 People with a consciencewho acre about reality as it affects us all. See Refugees. And yes *M O S* is correct in his analysis
@AtabekZingi4 жыл бұрын
Well researched and documented episode. I could almost read Amin Maalouf there :-)
@Killjoy97_6 жыл бұрын
I really loved this one. As of late i have a renewed interest on eastern nomad populations. I dont know how you upload a video on a new subject i started studying in perfect timing hahahah!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Fotis Staveris it's a fascinating subjects!
@Killjoy97_6 жыл бұрын
well they really impacted western warfare.
@peterspatling31516 жыл бұрын
Horses in Europe were split up in general. Nomadic tribes, as you pointed out, had huge numbers of horses. To keep them from fighting each other a lot of them were gelded. Horses breaded for war in Europe were kept in stables. They remained stallions, due to being more aggressive. But also geldings could be found. Mares were not ridden, they were either used by (wealthier) farmers for field work or kept outside for breeding together with their foals. If you like to see fighting on horseback based on medieval fencing manuscripts then I recommend you to search for Arne Koets, here on youtube.
@lambert4116Ай бұрын
As it was so often in the early days of the 12th century, the day was carried for the franks through the element of surprise
@goodman49666 жыл бұрын
you definition one of great historical youtube !
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend
@davidpinton78896 жыл бұрын
Nice job man, great vid
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Loads more on the way
@mouthforwar17 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see videos of the Anarchy and perhaps the Davidian Revolution that was changing Britain just after the time of the first crusade. It's a pretty turbulent time in Britain that gets little attention.
@tamerlane39316 жыл бұрын
great vid and very interesting topic...cheers !
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much more on the way !
@globalcombattv6 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!
@SamuelHallEngland6 жыл бұрын
These early years of Crusader history really show that quality can easily beat quantity over and over again. Better armor and stronger horses will triumph even if outnumbered. I would love to know what a real Destrier horse looked like. Do you know if there is any archaeological evidence of the anatomy of Destrier war horses?
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to come face to face with one in battle! In regards to the archaeology I am unsure. Maybe someone can enlighten us?
@peterspatling31516 жыл бұрын
There are rather few finds of horse skeletons that really can be identified as "destriers". The somewhat average horse in high and late medieval Europe had a size between 1,35m and 1,45m. Those horses, from a modern perspective, were ponies. Google Island horses to get an idea about the height. Note, the small horses are also the reason why spurs in the 15th century are very often so long. If you put a 1,75m man on a 1,35m horse his feet will hang quite low. To reach the horses belly he needs longer spurs. That 's really all there is to it. Getting back, the horses for war probably were at least 1,50m high. I know one find from the Netherlands of a horse with a height of 1,60m. That dates to the 15th century. I think you can expect a good destrier to be ~1,55m tall. It needs to be noted that "big" does not necessarily mean "tall". Even if you have two horses with the same height, one can still be bigger, simply because it has thicker legs, a bigger body in general and so forth. So a destrier should be around 1,55m and have strong legs. Look at the rider to the left here. That horse is 1,55m and the rider himself about 1,77m. The horse is quite young and will get a lot more muscles in the next year. Therefore he will get bigger (but not taller), which enables him to carry the rider longer. scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37654670_954681381378356_1273596410448576512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f22d409e91bbaafb93e244f11317da18&oe=5BD8D667 Breeds like in our present day did not exist in the middle ages. Horses were classified by their origin or their use. Destrier for war, Rouncey for travelling and so forth. Or if we follow the origin idea than we read about Castillian horses, or Barbs or Aragonese etc. The modern day bullfighting horses, so Iberian horses in general (there are exceptions ) are pretty close to destriers as these are breaded for being agile. There is the idea that destrier comes from the Spanish term "destreza" which means "dexterity". That makes a lot more sense than saying "destrier comes from the latin word dexter and means right because the horses were guided on the right by the page since they were not ridden until actual battle". (Which is nonsense to be honest) If you'd like to see more about mounted combat take a look at my channel I made a video together with Arne Koets about medieval saddles, that includes a bit of sparring at the end where one can clearly see why the horses need to be agile. :) Oh and a new VERY interesting video will show up either this evening or tomorrow morning. You should look forward to it ! ;)
@peterspatling31516 жыл бұрын
They surely did wear armour. There a dozens of sources that tell that some of the knights looked like hedgehogs because the Saracen arrows got stuck in their maille. Heat is not a problem, not having any water (like in Hattin) THAT is a problem. The horses are not slower even if they were it wouldn't be a big deal as it comes down to being able to make quick turns. A Spanish horse for instance can turn quite easy on the hindlegs, but it has to go slow to do so. In the thickness of battle you can't do elaborate turns anyway and can not go fast because of the danger of crashing with someone else. If the enemy (Saracens) don't have any armour than the knights would have an advantage anyway... Btw. they (the Saracens) did wear armour as well, there are even text sources extant that explain how they made their armour!
@ryanaegis35446 жыл бұрын
I used to keep Belgians (huge work horses) for their owners. Biggest horses I have ever seen, but built thicker than what one would normally ride. Last month, I was at a fair and saw two horses bigger than any others I have seen besides. The owner claimed 17 hands on one and 19 on the other, which doesn't sound all that huge, but they dwarfed the other regular sized horses around them. The owner said they were a cross between Belgians and something else (I don't remember what); they were almost as big as pure Belgians, but less stocky and without fur on their feet. They looked just like a typical riding horse but much much bigger. I decided that that was the kind of horse I would want if I were to ride in full armor into battle.
@Liphted6 жыл бұрын
Yo your videos are awesome.
@ScythianGryphon5 жыл бұрын
4:50 Art is so neat.
@ScythianGryphon5 жыл бұрын
Is it Turkish or Persian?
@DedicatedSpartan6 жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you liked it
@kaylew1086 жыл бұрын
Hope everyone realises why the crusades were finally sparked. Good video btw. This was really well done. The channel Real Crusades History is a great channel to learn the details and reality of the crusades
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy his channel!
@averroesthecommentator29896 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched Real Crusaders History in quite a while, but the last time I did, his videos contained heavy bias against Muslims and a ton of inaccurate statements regarding the Islamic sides of these conflicts. Wouldn't recommend
@wael40706 жыл бұрын
Zero objectivity
@franciscomm76755 жыл бұрын
@@averroesthecommentator2989 exactly
@franciscomm76755 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryTimedon't you think he has a bias towards muslims?
@erickirner58586 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the videos you put out and appreciate the research you put into them but you need to start either using photoshop to clean up those maps or include better composed maps
@kimmcroberts97655 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@connorwalls53006 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@grouchy41056 жыл бұрын
great video
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Grouchy hey! thanks. Tons more on the way!
@oscarargute98996 жыл бұрын
good job history time i like this video
@thedruiddiaries63786 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thank you!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by!
@valmarsiglia6 жыл бұрын
What is Aleppo? [Sorry couldn't resist!]
@ryanpem6 жыл бұрын
Love the Crusades!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Same! It's a gold mine for historians
@Fman09096 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much
@mohsy46866 жыл бұрын
*History Time* - Can you make a video about the Battle of Ager Sanguinis?
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's part 2 of course :)
@mohsy46866 жыл бұрын
History Time - I appreciate that, because most people who make these types of historical videos will only do the whole "crusader glory" thing which is heavily bias and excludes other parts of history at the time, like major Muslim victories aside from hattin 😂. Thank you for your balance bud :)
@warhawkjah6 жыл бұрын
18:49 I thought the secret weapon was the holy hand grenade of Antioch.
@timuraktolga56986 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@kenrudd63625 жыл бұрын
After all this gary Johnson still cant find this goddamn city on a map
@thomasnever25526 жыл бұрын
...the curtain opens and on the stage of history performs for us - 'Lulu the Eunuch' 😂😂😂
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
You can't make this shit up :)
@ElBandito6 жыл бұрын
Hearing about Roger of Salerno makes me wonder if Battle of Ager Sanguinis is coming up next. :D
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
;)
@Primetime3976 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@wailrimouche11716 жыл бұрын
This is gonna make me start one more Medieval II total war campaign with the Saljuk Turks
@Archenw6 жыл бұрын
I spotted a small mistake at 13:24 in the video it says Prince Of Antioch (1098-111) Great video nonetheless though!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Or he traveled back in time? you decide :) thanks mate!
@Archenw6 жыл бұрын
History Time no worries amazing video though.
@johnstewart88496 жыл бұрын
Can’t help but wonder: if all of that energy and manpower had gone into peaceful, creative pursuits, where would that area of the world be today??
@dsala26146 жыл бұрын
IN THE OCEAN FROM CLIMATE CHANGE...ASK AL GORE...
@maxwalker11596 жыл бұрын
Great!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Tons more on the way
@darthcalanil53336 жыл бұрын
Wooow Syrian history time!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Darth Calanil you knows it !
@ZorroinArkham6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for all the violence my people caused historically but damn dude Normans are hilarious. They are the Sopranos world tour. Ever see Lillyhammer? It seems a lot like that.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Kelley 😂 Brilliant comment. I love both shows and have to agree a little bit
@tereziamarkova28224 жыл бұрын
Lulu: Help! Help! Crusaders! a huge fucking army of the Seljuk sultan arrives Lulu: Well, nevermind. I've made a huge mistake. Good God what a trashfire period.
@lambert4116Ай бұрын
Calling a heavy cavalry charge a “secret weapon“ in 1115 seems a little strange. By then the turks were well-versed in Frankish warfare.
@odilbekb-sarkaev10526 жыл бұрын
Bo‘rsiq - Bursuq means Badger.
@ooooo9345 жыл бұрын
porsuk in today's turkish language
@jjjj13526 жыл бұрын
I hope Gary Johnson watches this.
@tznwyvuk4716 жыл бұрын
Your videos are THE best! So well spoken and presented that your videos should be shown in schools instead of stupid history teachers talking some shit to pass the time. Thank you. 🙂
@allanyusuf53366 жыл бұрын
When will you do the rise of salah al-din ayubi
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Not for a little while yet. He isn't born yet. We will get there though for sure!
@derkugelblitz34376 жыл бұрын
My parents are from Aleppo
@jonahjayverdon7 ай бұрын
"The prince of Antioch, Roger de Salerne, being undaunted in spirit, imposed silence on the rest by a gesture, and he himself spoke thus: Come, my brothers and fellow knights! And you, the infantry, let us now draw nearer. Remember with how much praise, how much honour - indeed, with how much written remembrance the deeds of good men are committed to memory by the whole world. Behold, the time has come when your strength and virtue may be esteemed, when the name of your victory over the barbarians (The Turks) may shine brightly throughout the regions of the world. Strive, too, because the crown is already promised by the Lord to those who fight lawfully. Therefore let us hasten to attack them and, when our lances are broken, let us approach closer as quickly as possible brandishing our unsheathed swords around their heads, so that their pride may be brought low by our constant blows and, by God’s vengeance, their annihilation will not be delayed." A speech given by Prince Roger before the Battle of Tell Danith (1115) from "The Antiochene Wars" by Walter the Chancellor (a 12th century Chronicler)
@MCorpReview6 жыл бұрын
Roger rocks!
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Athaporn MCorp Review He was an underrated ruler. More on him coming soon in the second part.
@MCorpReview6 жыл бұрын
History Time agreed. I’ve heard more about his more famous kinsmen like robert guiscard and bohemond the giant but this guy is pretty cool 😎 today if he can beat an accomplished general against such odds. Assume the Turks were also financially stronger than him since they had such a large empire to the east.
@andzzz25 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Mends of Anatolia were more Norwegian than Danish.
@wallacewood21266 жыл бұрын
I thought a tel was spelled with one l.
@SamuelHallEngland6 жыл бұрын
They might be doing well now, but in another century the Khwarezmians won't be doing so well anymore.
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Poor Khwarizm didn't even know what was going to hit it. Let alone Baghdad
@littleandre49572 жыл бұрын
Is Tel Danith by any chance Tel Dan?
@MCorpReview6 жыл бұрын
Weren’t the other Latin cities also Norman? Was it simply because Antioch had better generals than Tripoli and edessa?
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
Athaporn MCorp Review the other cities were mostly Frankish (& German), rather than Norman, though all were later conflated together under the term 'Frank'. For a time Antioch was dominated by Normans (mostly from southern Italy as opposed to the Franks from northern France)
@MCorpReview6 жыл бұрын
History Time I c. Thnx. I once read from funk &wagnall (cheap encyclopedia) that Geoffrey of bouillon was Norman French but I guess f&w is wrong on many counts. Good stuff. Will check out your next video.
@spittingblood6 жыл бұрын
Was that dude called Lulu before they cut his nuts out or was that just rubbing salt into the wound so to speak? Whatever the case I love that song of his - 'To Shah with love.'
@HistoryTime6 жыл бұрын
It's a good question. I could find barely any information on the guy unfortunately. Nor on Bursuq. Because they aren't crusaders unfortunately they don't get much of the spotlight in the west. Just as an example - no Wikipedia page or online encyclopaedia for either of them.
@Bsliggs6 жыл бұрын
Lulu of Aleppo, slave become king and political mastermind. Cool story!
@MCorpReview6 жыл бұрын
Their central location & wealth became a political liability.
@grontelp776 жыл бұрын
is it really fair to claim that the original inhabitants of Aleppo were arabs? I mean wasnt that land in the hands of the romans and eastern romans for almost a thousand years, and even before them the persians and greeks?
@miracleyang30485 жыл бұрын
Look maybe the Arabs were new compared to the some native Semitic people living in the area 3000 years ago, But really? Romans Greeks and Persians? Read about Pompey conquest the area was full of Arabs living next to the Aramaic majority when the Romans first invade
@dsala26146 жыл бұрын
...BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF YOUR ENEMIES...
@OsmanOsmanHan3 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷✌️
@barbiquearea6 жыл бұрын
Lulu? But that's a girl's name.
@MoptopGames6 жыл бұрын
Yeet
@jnes6246 жыл бұрын
Original Arab inhabitants? What no.. they would be from Arabia.. not aleppo
@samyebeid45346 жыл бұрын
cjonesabc They had settled in the region since more than 500yrs prior to the arrival of the other two factions, making them “original” in comparison. Also Aleppo was founded by Semitic peoples in ancient times, the Arabs, unlike the Turks, Byzantine Greeks and crusaders are Semitic people as well.
@miracleyang30485 жыл бұрын
Arabs are originally from Syria
@babyfactory5875 жыл бұрын
every time you say, 'shooting arrows and blotting out the sky', i cringe.
@bandit52726 жыл бұрын
Deus vult, beotch
@sinan19134 жыл бұрын
You covered this without spesking about Ibn Al Khashab. Are you bias towards Arabic people or something bud ?
@johnmcmanus78096 жыл бұрын
Hmm wasn't it part of byzantium before it was settled by arabs.
@johnmcmanus78096 жыл бұрын
CB W you mean conquered by them. I know many people controlled this area wouldn't be suprised if the hittites ruled it at some point thousands of years ago before the assyrians and persians, macedonians, romans. The byzantines had been rulers of this area before the arab conquest as everyone knows i mean the crusades started because of the christian wish to relieve the byzantine empire from arab aggresion during the arab conquests. They had a power base further east, they were invaders not indigenious people rising up. i'm sure they would have converted afterwards though. I've heard of the sassanids neo persians that raided this area from further east during the reign of justinian but not the ghassanids will check them out though cheers.