Hitman 3 PC VR Gameplay Is Going To Make VR Purists VERY, VERY Disappointed - Ian's VR Corner

[@theweddingsinger1970]

The immersion of VR is insane. It's not perfect, and it's not how I'd want to play every game, but it's such an exciting bit of tech, I hope it keeps getting funded and improved over the next decade.

[@TreeFrogOnATree]

dono man this port is so badly done, having to tweak your wrist forward to aim with most headsets is very annoying

[@isupergirl]

Ian bursts into laundrymat "This is a stick up! Give me all your jorts!"

[@tomastomasi975]

Ian: "why am I worse at aiming in hitman than any other game?" Pubg: "Eh, I think you might be misremembering"

[@lolmao500]

Its because hitman vr is garbage

[@danwarb1]

Could've done with a control update for PC. Allow grab, drag and interaction for both hands.Add a little roomscale so you don't have to keep recentering. Put run on the thumbstick.

[@SolaScientia]

Roomscale is one of the biggest requests I saw on IO's tweet about the update. Along with them fixing some issues with the elusive arcade.

[@id-null]

roomscale should def be added 100% and probably wouldn't even be that hard, it already has full upper body ik rigging. Allowing grabbing with both hands would be nice but i feel like that'd be more work than they're willing to put into it. They would likely only let you hold one thing at a time still as that's just how the normal game works- and is balanced around. Imo it's much closer to a good port than people are letting on- its so painfully close to being good! I really hope they keep improving it because hitman gameplay lends itself so well to vr. oh also i prefer sprint being a button. Excessive stick clicking has already caused drift in TWO controllers so id rather have to press my sticks in as occasionally as possible lmao. They should really just make ALL of the vr controls rebindable.

[@ogeI]

What so how do you move? I was going to buy a pc just for this game.

[@notoriousbmc1]

In game: Hitman 3 VR Maldives level. In real life: sitting in a paddling pool, with a heater pointed towards you.

[@nathancritch8914]

Anyone else think they had a scratch on their screen because of the little outline of Ian’s cam showing on the screen? Panicked for a second there! Lol!

[@betz999]

I'm stoned as hell right now. I put something near my TV about an hour before watching, and thought I scratched my screen. I just spent the last 2 minutes switching inputs and videos to confirm, before saying to myself: "maybe you should check the comments"

[@nightcatarts]

Shame they seem to have basically ported the PSVR version straight over. I'm crossing my fingers for Intel's Xess thing (if that's how they're spelling it) since that should enable considerably sharper visuals, & maybe even ray traced reflections in VR once they put that in. No telling how long it'll take them to get that stuff done, but I really hope they keep working to improve this (including controls) or it'd be a huge missed opportunity.

[@id-null]

its likely due to the fact that sony funded the psvr version, and the improvements for the pc version were funded internally.. and as a free update? yea they probably diddnt put much time or money into it sadly. I still think it can be tons of fun though once you get used to it. Also im sure modders will find a way to turn off the forced resolution downscaling soon enough, thats the main thing holding the visuals back.

[@Aliens1337]

@@id-null They are releasing it on Steam at well for a full $60 price tag, like for a new game. On other platforms, the game was on sale multiple times for as low as $30. If the VR was good, it would attract a lot of Steam players who had been waiting patiently for the game. Instead, they messed up and the game now has a bunch of negative reviews on Steam. Really shouldn’t have half-assed the VR if they wanted to re-sell the game at full retail price on Steam.

[@id-null]

​@@Aliens1337 Oh I totally agree. Huge missed opportunity on their part. But most AAA studios have people in charge that want to ship products with minimal budget. Especially when you consider the vr playerbase compared to non-vr playerbase on steam is like a droplet in a lake, unfortunately we were not their target demographic. Their target demographic was steam users who refused to support epic games, but they also messed that up- like you said, by not having a launch sale, when literally at the time of release, you could get the game half off on other platforms. Though again- they've made likely 85% of sales they would have initially made anyways from consoles, and forcing many people who prefer steam to buy through epic instead, so their profits from the steam release were likely not as important as if it were an actual new game release. I wish we lived in a world where passion and artistic intent came first, but unfortunately money makes the world go round. I will still give props to the devs for doing what they can and delivering something that imo, is quite fun to play despite it's issues, when they likely had almost no budget to expand upon their already very limited psvr base version.

[@lincolnsmithtbp]

@@Aliens1337 and it’ll be on sale on steam soon too ya numkie!

[@aegresen]

The way this tech has evolved, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that we'd get full RTX reflection capable VR sets in a decade. That would be amazing! But yeah, even a pixel-ly reflection would be better than none, the lack really messes with the immersion here.

[@botchie8353]

do you own vr? rtx in vr is 10 years away

[@larkinggames1060]

@@botchie8353 do you know how long a decade is?

[@thechurchofsupersampling]

@@botchie8353 rubbish I played it last year, mechwarrior 5 has rt and vr with a mod

[@kg_canuck]

RT is all done on the GPU side. The headset itself is effectively just a fancy monitor with cameras and sensors. Theres no real reason we cant have VR games with RT already.

[@larsalgore1770]

you can increase the overall sharpness with the help of the open FSR -tool for VR. Just disable upscaling with rendering value 1.0 and sharpness to 1.0 , after these settings H3 feels much more like a clear PC VR port

[@TheMatrix893]

I like it when a slap turn into psychopath mass murder scene, it was hilariously funny, it sometimes happens when Things get out of control you know: shoot, drag to toilet and close the door and then disguise to be in the save side. VR Gaming is the FUTURE

[@navtektv]

I love how quickly this descended into chaos.

[@aychimichanga8976]

The shooting rampage was so enjoyable and cathartic

[@slantia5]

Couldn't get over the sheer blurriness of the visuals when I tried it. Felt no different to the PSVR version tbh. Great video as always though Ian!

[@prettylittlequeenbee8201]

"I only slapped him!" To be honest if some random dude came up to me and slapped me, I would scream and runaway too 😄 Always looking forward to your VR corner!!

[@Cimlite]

I tried this and wasn't really enjoying it. The controls are too much of a step back in time. Even VR mods these days do a better job of VRifying games than what we're seeing here. ☹️

[@id-null]

i had this opinion too... at first. But the more I played and got used to its controls the more i enjoyed it and understood why they did what they did, with the limitations they had. There is a STUPID amount the tutorial doesn't tell you that makes the game feel so much better once you learn. (you can open doors with hands, you can lightly hold the trigger for a laser sight for precision shooting, you have to hold trigger while holding a melee weapon for it to be considered using the actual weapon, which i see a lot of people don't even realize because the game never tells you.) totally fair if you'd be unable to get passed its awkward junkiness at times and its lack of roomscale, but I recommend giving it another shot and playing around with its systems to get a good feel for things. Next think you know you'll be quickly throwing, stabbing, shooting and punching almost every time, and you find yourself able to be even MORE efficient than you can be in flat screen mode.

[@Don-po8vl]

@@id-null you convinced me to give it a try aswell as I was not even bothered anymore after the negative reviews from people that wanted to like the game.

[@id-null]

@@Don-po8vl hope you have fun! just keep your expectations tame. And since theres no proper roomscale the less you move your legs the better lmao

[@Don-po8vl]

@@id-null let’s hope for some updates or mods to make it better.

[@id-null]

@@Don-po8vl We can only hope this is just the beginning, but far too many vr ports get ditched and never improved sadly.

[@katfromthekong414]

Ian's VR corner always brightens my day ... or evening in this case 🌞

[@RidireOiche]

The view from the lounge chairs at the outro always reminds me of that Jude Law/Forest Whitaker film Repoman

[@Fafhrd42]

I'm guessing they implemented a forward renderer for when VR is active, so a lot of screen space effects just won't work. Screen space reflections especially (and you wouldn't see 47 in a screen space reflection in VR because you're in first person and thus not on screen). Planar reflections are possible in a forward renderer but they are EXTREMELY expensive in VR, because you have to render the scene FOUR times (twice for each eye) instead of just two. And I don't know how IOI's engine works, but in Unreal just having the engine setting that enables planar reflections turned on increases the shader cost by 15% for every material in the game, so even in scenes where you're not using planar reflections rendering is more expensive. It's likely IOI disabled the shader calls that are necessary for planar reflections altogether in their forward renderer.

[@LacroixboiMarx]

While the VR may be disappointing, that intro was absolutely not.

[@MoviesNGames007uk]

I wanna see Sapienza in VR

[@GreggyAck]

5:42 Actually burst out laughing. That sound effect was divine.

[@benhayes2344]

Might make sense to add a teleport motion system like Half-Life Alyx did. This helped me get through the game with minimal motion-sickness. The other big let-down is hitting a button to reload instead of going through the motion.

[@benhayes2344]

@Art C -- could have the best of both worlds, have the non-teleport as the default, and teleport for those who prefer it?

[@jamster126]

Laughed so much at this 😂😂. The stack of bodies 😂.

[@griffgames9538]

7:25 *He slaps the hell out of a bathroom attendant* Serves him right for not replacing the urinal mints.

[@thepinkhobbit]

'It's kissing me' Quickest time till an 'IAN-UH!' moment in a video I think.

[@josecosin4807]

The blur is not a problem. You can raise the steam vr Super Sampling at 300 for example and it is sharpen and not drop fps. 2080 ti.

[@TheGothicKratos]

OMG, "Look what they've done..." killed me, add one to the death toll

[@KelMindelan]

Not showing reflections might be so anyone can role play being Hitman? Because if I see Agent 47 looking back at me from a mirror, that's definitely not me.

[@theDegausser]

Boy, oh boy, how good this looks upon reflection (no pun intended)... Back here again from the Hitman Reloaded video! They completely destroyed this game in that port!!!

[@liamnehren1054]

The shot outs was how I predicted Ian showcasing it would go.

[@joeldfisher]

A slaps only Hitman VR challenge would be hilarious

[@joshuavstheworld7]

Ian making actual strangling noises... that's a new one.

[@realburglazofficial2613]

Not gonna lie, I danced with the naked German guy too!

[@rossbalch]

Do you think chucking RT and DLSS into the mix will help the experience in a month or so?

[@nightcatarts]

They're doing Xess instead of DLSS, but that should certainly help.

[@jmacosta]

Look how he massacred all those poor NPCs! It's a shame, because they didn't expand on the options that PC enables for VR, but it's understandable given the fact that they got little experience with it in thr first place. Here's hoping they up their game a bit with time and it's not a definitive version of what Hitman can offer in VR for PC.

[@magyamch]

Could not throw them bricks yesterday lol 🤣🤣

[@FartKnocker-n5j]

"Look what someone's done!" Lolololol

[@DeadmanWL]

Hmmm Im not entirely sure if this went all Mike Channel or just Ian being Ian... *flash backs to Patient Zero mission* everyone must die!

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

Also the one island where Mike went Dark Souls

[@Ben-rz9cf]

i love how everyone gets their hands on hitman vr and the first thing they start doing is just running around slapping people in the face xD

[@Crossyonthetube]

I would love to see IO develop Hitman with VR from the beginning instead of the retrofit.

[@Kalypso_Belador]

Take a drink everytime Ian says "On the PlayStation VR version"........

[@SolaScientia]

Everything going badly in Dubai had me crying with laughter. "Herpa derp herpa derp" had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. It reminds me of when I screwed up in Dartmoor and had a whole lot of bodies outside the bathroom by the library before they finally killed me. I know this is meant to show the PC VR and such, but I couldn't help but spend most of the time laughing. I will say that this confirms for me that I couldn't handle VR in any form. When he got to the Chongqing level I started feeling slightly sick, which is par for the course for me with first person POV in games. I usually have to stop after about 30 minutes, but if I return to the game every day I can play for longer periods as with 3rd person POV games.

[@MSFSVRenthusiasts-Pimax]

I returned the game after trying to play it halfway for 3.5 hours. The image is blurry in game, no go! The Valve Index controllers are not properly implemented, sometimes they work well and sometimes they don't. I'm a VR enthusiast and that's just not for me. Pity!

[@kendoyle]

Ian going full slapper very swiftly.

[@emmanuelmorales3208]

Still double fisting those puns. You sir do not disappoint.

[@SnivTen]

It's like a more interactive version of the GTAV VR mod.

[@98f5]

you seem to play this game exactly like me. oh dubai a crowd? Oops oops oops

[@langdon7x]

chaos, Chaos, CHAOS!

[@mbeizer]

still better than fallout4/skyrimvr even after "years" of "updates" to those games.

[@William_Rivera_X]

Love the series Love the VR games and commentary play more of the paranormal game lol

[@Farmer_Juan]

what version is this of the game?

[@V26587]

Yeah I feel like Hitman VR is just not getting as much love as it should of by the devs

[@TheLegendOfNiko]

IOI needs to update this game with reflections, interactive objects, and better optimized performance. The wait was too long to be this disappointing.

[@id-null]

performance was pretty great for me and I'm on a mid-tier rig. But at the cost of blurry visuals. It needs customizable vr graphics settings PRONTO. The'll never add interactable objects though, way too much work for a free update. Who knows though! we can only dream

[@EST84x]

Well, what do you expect for a hundred bucks?

[@midnightrocker7]

the vr controls for this game are not that good at all on the Index, the Index controllers are lousy for this game, the vr controls are better on the Quest 2 for this game, except I would rather play this vr game on the Index because of the bigger fov and it's a more comfortable headset to wear on your face than the Quest 2 is, hope the developers release updates and patches to improve playing this game in vr, this game looks good in vr, but the controls are lousy at the moment

[@warlockboyburns]

I liked it it's just a rip off to pay £28 for hitman 1 dlc when you already have that game.

[@id-null]

anything you already own should port over just fine? the dlc is only if you dont own hitman 1/2

[@chrisxx5583]

This looks awful. I don’t know why anyone would want to play this way except for a 5 minutes of entertainment

[@mikeburgess6153]

2022 is going to be a disappointment isn't it.

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

Maybe for vr, but for other stuff probably not. We have all sorts of stuff coming out this year that I'm really looking forward to.

[@Giliver]

I mean what're you looking for? VR should be getting some bigger games this year compared to last Zenith comes out in a few days and should easily give you 40 hours of enjoyment. GTA SA VR version should be decent if the RE4 release is anything to go by. There's a bunch of flatscreen games coming out this year that are highly anticipated. (Elden Ring being a big one) Anime industry is absolutely booming rightnow if you're into that, same goes for the stellar shows each streaming service had been launching lately. (Just you know pirate them)