Hive active heating system installation and guide

[@MultiAnnie3]

*I like the old style Echo Dot because it's small also **Newest.Technology**, gives out decent sound and doesn't take up a lot of shelf space if you want to put it on beam in the workshop or shed.*

[@darrenrobertson7635]

Thankyou for sharing this video. Very helpful! I’m a competent DIYer but you can never be too careful regarding electrics, and how you explained it in this how-to video was very easy to follow. Top man! 👍

[@alangriffiths8401]

Good video - explained very well. My observation was when Isolating the mains power to fit the controller (by switching off fused spur )- I would suggest, not only switching off the Switched Fused Spur but also remove the actual Fuse from the Switched Fused Spur unit. Or if isolating at Consumer Unit - locking out the RCD / MCB/ RCBO to avoid it being switched on whilst you are wiring the controller. Also don't you need to alter the wiring in the wiring centre box where the hardwired roomstat has been removed. I may have missed this in the video, but if you don't do this the heating will not work.

[@DOAII]

This is a great guide. Never tackled heating before but want to install hive. After watching your guide I'm confident 1. That it is compatible with my current install and 2. that I'll be able to install it myself. Many thanks

[@JonathanTrueman]

Thank you for taking the time to make such a comprehensive and understandable video. Much appreciated

[@bdude92]

Thank you I will be using this guide to install my Hive this week. The controller I have installed currently is exactly the same as yours, so I can follow this guide to a T

[@AllyRowan]

This is a really good video. I'm handy enough DIY and this video gives me a lot more confidence that it's within my technical ability to do. The video gives lots of good tips as you go along.

[@jeffreyjones6416]

I know I have already made a comment, but I was only halfway through it. Now I have watched it in full .. This is how a video should be done . Brill video . Thank you very much 😊

[@junkendriven]

Hi Jeffrey, thank you so much for the kind words and taking time to comment, encourages me to make more videos that people may find useful

[@wallaceshackleton1889]

Very useful and informative . Nice to see the full installation as others were just giving the impression that all one needed to do was install a thermostat. I would have liked to have seen better detail on the thermostat controls in particular manual "Heating ON" as I'm thinking of installing one for my father who is severely technically challenged.

[@junkendriven]

Hi, thanks for watching! On the heating controls, there is a little more info on my follow up video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmHLkJKan7CaabM But to answer your question, a quick "HEAT ON" boost would be to press one of the two top recessed boost buttons which would turn the heating on for an hour at your triggered boost temperature, that may do what you want. Depending on your fathers mobility though the top button may not be ideal.

[@djtaylorutube]

Compliments on an informative video. I bought a Hive last night in a Black Friday sale event, including free Amazon Echo (got two already but more won't hurt) and including installation for £148. The install is £40 of that price but looking at this, I fitted our existing Danfoss, the same as yours so could have gone for the self fit. Regardless, price was good so no issue. Just one comment, when showing the wiring or diagrams, please consider using a tripod or just a still picture of them and voice over afterwards. I paused the video to keep a still frame to look at as you were wobbling around a bit :)

[@dhilhussain]

I'm always looking through videos to learn things, so I've probably seen thousands of instruction videos. Thank you so much for this video it is one of the most comprehensive and easy to to follow.

[@gjwestonable]

Great instructions superb. A thing to note with the Hive on Amazon is they offer installation through British Gas quite cheaply at the moment (£30 ish) unfortunately they won't touch an oil boiler. So if you order installation they only send thermostat no hub or receiver the engineer brings those. Odd really because the engineer doesn't even need to touch boiler. I had to send mine back and order a none installation one.

[@junkendriven]

Excellent info Garry. Thanks for sharing it

[@TravelingTuna]

Absolutely brilliant video. Thanks for making it. I was considering buying a Hive unit and wondering how it functions and how hard it is to install. I am now going to buy one and set it up. Only issue is the internet router is a LONG way away from the boiler. I hope the signal reaches!

[@junkendriven]

Great, please do post back on how far you can reach with it, I'm unsure on the real-world distances that it can achieve

[@TravelingTuna]

@@junkendriven I guess it makes a difference if there are walls etc in between. But the singal goes WAY further than my SKY WiFi router. There is no WiFi signal in the bathroom where the bloiler is, but the Hive unit works just fine in there. (Thank the Gods).

[@andyfidler8544]

Good intro to and overview of the Hive Active Heating System. Thanks.

[@steveng5503]

The gardener fitted my one. He found it easier by leaving the isolator turned on and switching power off to the lighting circuits at the consumer unit. I can see from your video that you used the correct screwdriver and no test gear. Perfect!

[@chapmanchapman4788]

Probally the best and most informative video ive seen on youtube !!, you literally !! just saved me paying out for someone to install it i followed what you done and it took me 20 minutes

[@junkendriven]

That's great, glad you sorted it and thanks for the feedback, remember to subscribe for more!

[@tomgallimore3996]

Excellent video, better than anything I could find on the Hive website.

[@leegargensli4191]

Excellent video, thank you so much. I am not confident with my DIY skills to install one myself but good to know what will be involved.

[@soulsinger1969]

Great video Andy, i was deciding between this and the Nest and then was not sure if i needed to get a professional installer. Your in depth installation made the decision for me. Hive should pay you commission !! :)

[@soulsinger1969]

Bought it and installed it,... it was so easy ,.. had it up and running within 45 mins and that includes the Hive app registration.

[@junkendriven]

Great, thanks for the update Wayne. I've just posted a 1yr on review too!

[@doyouknow007bond]

Thank you! This vid is way better than other vids I have seen from certified electricians.

[@silviociampa352]

Very clear description of installation well done.

[@EmilioOnline1]

Good video - probably the best thermostat on the market at the moment

[@Chimp_No_1]

Incredibly interesting and helpful. Thank you so much Andy !

[@robakles1]

I have the same danfoss . Will try to replace it with hive. I find your instructions really good mate. Thank you

[@mateuszlewinski7774]

Will attempt to wire my Hive tonight, this is far the best video i found regarding wiring.

[@krzysztofdyda5674]

Thanks, Andy this is a really useful video. But you should advise also the people, that wiring needs to be done by a competent person, who can test it after installation, and have the knowledge, if something goes wrong. And finally, you can get a Certificate for the Electrical installation (If the boiler still have a warranty, or for Insurance )

[@domrobertson1094]

Hi Great Video, thanks. One question. What do you do with the old traditional wired thermostat. clearly it is not going to be needed. Mine is a honeywell, that has three 3 wires going to it. A permenant live (red) , and two switching wires (yellow and blue)

[@junkendriven]

Hi, typically you can just disconnect the wires from both ends as they're not used. Do it safely and tape/cover the wires before hiding back in your wall

[@jameswilliamson8050]

Best HIVE video on KZbin thanks for posting

[@junkendriven]

Great news, thanks for visiting and please remember to subscribe as I have further Hive update videos :-)

[@jimbobs1951]

Fantastic information and instructions. 👏👏👏

[@Chazaxl]

Great video. I cant find clarity if I need the hub or not. Some seem to think yes, some say no. I have wired and wireless options. Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

[@junkendriven]

Hi there. So you only need the hub if you want to control it online. The hub joins the home equipment to the internet via a network cable into your broadband router. If you don't want to use the app on the phone or their website to configure and control then you do NOT need the hub. The thermostat and boiler control unit do NOT need the hub. Hope that clears it up :-) Please remember to subscribe to help the channel out.

[@Chazaxl]

@@junkendriven Thanks. Saw later you werent enjoying the Hive due to tech issues so went with the Nest.

[@charnjeetsingh5515]

Thank you for sharing all information one question for you what about the old thermostat how can replace we can leave like that how can disconnect it because I have a tank boiler please make another video thank you

[@junkendriven]

Hi, it depends on how your old room thermostat is connected. In the video mine is connected to the plate so by replacing it my thermostat is disconnected, you can then just remove it from the wall and use tape to protect the wires in the wall. The room thermostat doesn't affect the tank for hot water

[@murylobatista8169]

great! now im confident enough to remove my hive active from my shopping cart and never think in buying it again

[@philbeale8947]

amazon are doing hive system (hot water heating) echo dot and installation for £148

[@TweedFisherman]

Good video thank you. ++ Wired up ok and system / thermostat working fine but failed at last hurdle. Unable to get the Hive app to find the thermostat and therefore control the system via the app. It just hangs during the set up process. Very odd !

[@Grahammilsome]

Very good descriptive video. Thanks very much.

[@garypottinger1167]

Thjs is great - but what do I do with the settings on my boiler? The controls for the heating and hot water, do they need to be full / off / or doesn't matter?

[@junkendriven]

Hi, your boiler needs to be set to on for both. The signal wires should then tell the boiler when to switch on and off from the hive unit

[@melódic_breeze_VIIIV]

Andy can you explain the wiring before you put the new receiver base on. What I mean is with your neutrals and lives, are they joined together on the base for example your cable in from the DB and your flex out to the boiler. So twin and earth in and a 5 core flex to the boiler??

[@古月阿通]

This installation method also suitable to boiler system without hot water cylinder?

[@junkendriven]

Yes, you can buy the hive system without the tank function, or just disable it on your hive unit

[@gesanners1417]

Thanks Andy, a great introduction to what Hive is about. I'm still researching it so I have no instructions to refer to - one question - you've plugged the power lead and a router cable into the hub - does the other end of the router cable go to my wifi router? Gerry.

[@junkendriven]

Hi, thanks for watching. Yes the other end of the hub cable goes to your broadband router

[@tpmbe]

Nice installation guide..Thank You

[@windinthewillows6248]

Can I ask a question Andy, if you know or maybe someone else might. I had a Hive in my old house, when I moved to my new house, I took the hub, as I was told it was linked to my account. I’d like to have a hive in the new house. It has the boiler room on the 3rd floor, with a control panel for the hot water. The ground floor and second floor have their own thermostats. What I’d like to know if you can answer, if I buy the Hive with a receiver and two thermostats, will my current Hub connect to the new receiver and thermostats, or will I have to buy the whole lot with a new hub? Cheers

[@junkendriven]

Hi Paul, on the first point about taking the hub, absolutely. I know the hub ID is linked to your account (which is why pairing is done by calling/speaking to them) so taking that with you makes sense. So you then just re-pair the thermostats and receiver to your hub. I've not seen personally the two thermostat solution, I believe you may need two receivers, one for ground floor and one for 1st floor to 'switch' the right contacts in the boiler, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Sorry can't give a more concise answer on that one. Please do post back on your results

[@windinthewillows6248]

Thanks Andy. 👍

[@Bhupathyalagiri]

Thanks I did based on u r video! You saved us money.

[@suitedeal]

Why are the hot water off & heating off terminals not connected on the Hive system, surely you need these to control the motorised valves, unless they are spring return but as the old programmer had these connections used I would have thought it necessary to use with the Hive.

[@junkendriven]

In a lot of systems as you rightly say the motorised vales are spring return/idle return. So in my case the terminals are there just unused so my two OFF connections dont have any wires attached. (So although the old programmer had the connections, there were no wires into them in the backplate)

[@charnjeetsingh5515]

Hi thank you very much you reply my question and I really like you all videos there's all good so if it's anything change anything new system is coming please upload thank you a lot

[@korutor]

Do you not need to change the wiring in the wiring centre?

[@hammycats6919]

My boiler doesn't have any seperate controller as it is a combi boiler. So would hive not be compatible? 🤔

[@junkendriven]

Hi, combi with built-in timer can take hive, the built-in timer is just set to continuous and there is a feed for the thermostat which is what hive will control. You may need to consult documentation on your boiler for specific information but it should be possible.

[@hammycats6919]

@@junkendriven Great, thank you. I will get an electrician to do it for me now that I know it can be done. I was confused as I was looking for that controller box that you had with the wires, but there is no box, just the boiler with the timer and pressure gage and water and heating temp. 😊 Thanks again, this thermostat will really help me control energy better. 👍

[@flamemac]

Very informative video, well control and well explained thank you very much keep it up.

[@topgazza]

What do I do with the old thermostat wiring ? Do I connect the live to the on wire ?

[@abdulwaheed384]

Hi, do you know the wiring combination for 2 wires combi boiler?

[@brianmcaleer3958]

Hi I've got almost the same existing wiring that you had apart from terminals 5 & 6 which you said were from the stat. I do have a plastic junction/ terminal block that you have in the back box with wires going into it (2 & 2). Do you know what role that performs - would it be something to do with my existing room stat or possibly the pump that I have? thanks

[@timrobinson8249]

This is great but next time get Ant or Holly to do it with you Dec, i miss the banter. Thanks for the vid - very helpful

[@junkendriven]

Haha, you win the internet comment for today my friend, good comment! I'll start the search for another geordie sidekick for future ;-)

[@Freddybabykeene]

Hi Andy, I have just had hive installed by the gas board. When I look at my schedule it says water heater off, but the wall control says on. The water is heating everytime the heating is on. I turned the water heating off totally, but it is still heating up when the heating comes on.

[@davelifely5715]

This is a really helpful video. I'm looking at doing a similar replacement myself, but my existing wiring doesn't seem to have a wire to the Central Heating off connection. Can that one be ignored? My system has a separate controller and receiver, though I am thinking the receiver is what you refer to as the remote control part, which you ignore, as I think the hive thermostat communicates directly with the dual receiver?

[@junkendriven]

Thanks for everyones comments and views! Almost up to 100,000 views, remember to Subscribe and view my other videos! Thanks for watching. ALSO, update one year later: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmHLkJKan7CaabM

[@samrahman6413]

Thank thank you very much. Awesome video spot on to say the least.

[@scottbarr4600]

What if the boiler has a built in programmer? Mine has a clock type thing that ticks round but can't hold time

[@junkendriven]

Normally (have to check manuals, etc) you can set that to bypass and use an external timer and programmer. Normally wiring is there to do it and you just set a jumper or wire to use external timer. Remember, wiring in boilers is at mains voltage, don't mess with the power on or if unsure get assistance

[@MrGreen_]

Hi what about the thermostat on the wall what happens to it ? Can you tell me does it need to disconnected

[@junkendriven]

Thanks for watching, yes the original thermostat is now not in use so you disconnect it (it's a pair of wires in the original wiring which is described in the video)

[@MrGreen_]

Andy Brown gentleman thank you for reply andy cheers ..

[@MrOggie24]

Really useful video. I now feel confident enough to do a self installation! Cheers!

[@davidkett4203]

can i just check, the back box in the wall is that a BS standard size, I'm looking to fit my own HIVE but will need to put a wall box in, either sunken or surface mount, so wanted to check the dimensions for the HIVE receiver

[@ajscr3125]

My house has a programmer clock and two wired thermostats, am I correct in saying that the two receivers that I have need to be wired into where the thermostats are? After that the programmable clock just needs to be set on all the time?

[@blackrobin08]

Well done mate... just what i was looking for .. cheers

[@MrGreen_]

One more quest andy The wires that run from the termostat To the control unit Do they need to be disconnected

[@junkendriven]

Generally, yes. When you change the control unit for the hive those wires are spare anyway so either disconnect them (in mine I disconnected and electrician tape the contacts so they couldn't make contact with anything)

[@MrGreen_]

Andy Brown gent

[@jeffreyjones6416]

Very Good 👍 you answered everything I needed to know. Thank mate 👍 ✊️✊️✊️

[@fredmuir4044]

An exceptionally well made guide, thank you

[@GigglingStar]

Excellent video. Thank you so much for your help. I might buy one!

[@danielfloyd9532]

I'm looking at a Hive, I have a Combi, but my thermostat and programmer is in the hallway. I wouldn't want the controller in the hallway, only the therm. Is it possible to put the controller near the boiler in the garage, and replace the current in the hallway with the Hive Therm? Taking the cover off my programmer, I only have neutral and live, no other wires?

[@cliveslack4698]

Excellent video,very explanatory.

[@junkendriven]

Thanks Clive :-)

[@dp9666]

Hi Andy, Great video, I instaledmy self with your help. Did you have a zone2? I'm trying to put on but not successful. any help?

[@junkendriven]

Hi Dario, thanks for watching. Sorry no I've not tried a zone2 on it. I did find having to pair devices a couple of times before they work so perhaps the trick! Good luck

[@DerekHundik]

@@junkendriven what's that RJ11 port for ?

[@sabeenatennant2291]

Hi Andy I have a British Gas code one - can I install this myself as well?

[@dudleyjoseph9485]

Great video. Very useful and just been looking at this before ordering Hive. Have had Hive before but had it installed. I've got only 2 wires for HW ON and CH ON in my existing programmer like some of the other viewers. What you say seems straightforward but in my case, I also have an existing wireless thermostat and the wires going into the 'base' part of that (which is right next to the programmer) are the same colour as the HW ON and CH ON wires in the programmer. Do I need to do any thing different? The wireless thermostat will obviously be redundant when Hive takes over.

[@robotmad]

Remove the fuse as part of the safe isolation procedure.

[@trevorpitt8183]

Great video just question must you have combi boiler for this ?

[@trevorpitt8183]

Got danfloss Worcester Greenstar RI

[@junkendriven]

Hi Trevor, mine isn't combi, you buy the hive unit for either combi or not (mine is a semi traditional tank fed hot water so I have the dual zone hive)

[@trevorpitt8183]

Thanks does it control heating & hot water

[@trevorpitt8183]

Can’t seem to find dual zone hive

[@junkendriven]

Hi Trevor, this should do it www.screwfix.com/p/hive-active-v3-wireless-heating-hot-water-smart-thermostat/246jk

[@markpetty6401]

Brilliant video well explained I’ll let you know how I get on 👍

[@priestwalking1]

Hi Andy, this is very helpful and a big thanks for taking out much of the mystery and fear of attempting fitting it myself, but I have a question and hope you can explain; I was watching another video and he said you need to reconnect the live to the heating valve to complete the circuit after removing the old thermostat or it may interfere with the hive thermostat where as you disconnected the wires to the old thermostat and tucked them back into the wall. Love to hear your comments. Many thanks.

[@djsonic4870]

exactually what i saw....no mention of that what so ever here...

[@thedesigntech]

Good vid but i would also isolate at main bord too if your a DIYer.

[@barrycartwright8400]

will this not work if you have combi boiler my boiler is a combi boiler

[@junkendriven]

For a combi you'd order the heat only version of hive so it would only switch heating

[@stephendoyle5150]

Hi Andy great video, just one question, how does it know when the cylinder is up to temperature?

[@junkendriven]

Cylinder for water still uses its on tank thermostat to regulate, same as existing heating controllers

[@02semiata]

So nothing had to be done with the old wall mounted thermostats ? just disconnect them from the wire box

[@paulharrington4878]

How come you don’t need the remote receive on the hive but it’s wired in with the old system ?

[@junkendriven]

Hi Paul. The remote receive, do you mean the old thermostat/temperature switch? On mine it was a sensor so just removing it solved it for me. It's the two spare wires when I fit to the wall/backing plate.

[@yaz879]

Di I need the hub if I don't use the app

[@junkendriven]

Hi, no. The hub is only needed if you want to use the web or mobile app for programming or control. Thanks for watching :-)

[@double531]

Great, thanks for sharing. I'm replacing the overly complicated Tado system.

[@junkendriven]

that's good to know, please do share how you get on and how it compares

[@davidbrent2955]

Does the Hive disable old relay box and 3 way valve please?

[@robertdundon5170]

perfect show me how to. I am going to buy one for the new boiler that were are getting many thanks

[@Allegedly2right]

Andy will it work with Hitachi Heat pump

[@photonatjag]

If the hub connected to the internet goes down (no internet) does the thermostat / receiver still send on/off to the boiler? Which is what my current thermostat does. Would you just loose the smartphone capability?

[@junkendriven]

Hi there, yes heating systems still work fine without internet, you lose the ability to control/configure remotely via phone and the website. They actually sell the product without the hub so it acts as a stand alone system too.

[@daveembury602]

Anyone advise me i cant pair my phone to the thermostat using the app. My phone cant find the thermostat. Any help please?

[@junkendriven]

Hi, I'm assuming you purchased the Hive hub too? You cannot pair a phone directly to the Hive thermostat on it's own, you need the hub. You then register the hub (using the code underneath) at the Hive website and from there you can login using your phone hive app. Hope that helps.

[@daveembury602]

@@junkendriven I have the hub yes. On the app where it says manage devices it has the hub there saying its connected. But I try to find the thermostat and it never finds anything at all gggrrrrrrrrr!!

[@bmulli12]

Fantastic Saved me a few quid and set it all up myself

[@lesliethomas4678]

How far apart can the receiver and hub be placed, before they run into problems? same for the thermostat. have you tried it?

[@nalem7]

Leslie Thomas we’ve been using “hive 1” for two years. Receiver and boiler is at the back of the loft, about 12m from hub and roomstat. Works perfectly. Just upgrading to “hive 2”. Shoul be even better 🤔

[@Bhupathyalagiri]

Do u have video for mulizone installation?

[@junkendriven]

No sorry, haven't done that one

[@swmas02]

Very good introduction to the “Hive” thinking in investing a upgrade to my Worcester CDI34

[@peterrobertson1250]

Hi.I was under the impression the law changed a few years ago and we are not allowed to install electrical items ourselves now, such as sockets, spurs and especially anything to do with boilers in case anything goes wrong as we end up causing a fire.You then run the serious possibility of your insurance not paying out because it was not installed by a qualified professional?Your insurance will want to go after their insurance if something goes wrong, but, if you have done it yourself then?

[@junkendriven]

You raise an interesting point, this relates to part P electrical safety in dwellings Government legislation. There are many interpretations of it, but generally (And this is my understanding backed up by a registered electrician I've discussed it with) it is related to if the work is notifiable to building control for inspection. Notification is needed for new rings/circuits, Replacement of consumer dist units or alterations to units in "special" locations (Bath or Shower room). So for example adding a socket/spur to an existing ring is non-notifiable work and not subject to certification. In this instance you are replacing a socket (effectively) and therefore not required to have it certified. The document from GOV UK is at: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441872/BR_PDF_AD_P_2013.pdf and if you look up section 2.5 12(6a) this confirms what is notifiable. Hope that helps, obviously I'm not a certified part P electrician, so the above is my understanding of the UK law. If you are in any way unsure you should call a certified electrician.

[@nigelcooper3797]

Excellent Video and well explained.

[@DerekHundik]

what's that RJ11 port for ?

[@petertootle9185]

I need a system for setting shift patterns one week early one week late shift will this do that does my head in changing it every week

[@LewisBrain]

I no I'm the same with my hive lights. The hive timer works like the alarm clock on your phone. You can set it up for the week. But would then have to set it for the following weeks schedual. update I have just got one in my Black Friday deal. I shall still be working all different shifts. So am going to use it manually from my phone.

[@petertootle9185]

Thanks @@LewisBrain

[@adrianbyron-parker5797]

Hi, Did you try the Hive Active Heating "ready by" function? I guess this is one of the most beneficial aspects of Hive and I haven't seen it in any video..yet!

[@junkendriven]

Thanks for watching, I'm doing a follow up video very shortly on the Hive, 1 year on with ups and downs. Good suggestion on the "Ready By" function, I've not fully tested but will do this and add to the next video

[@DeclanGreen]

Cheers Andy, just used your link and got my £40 discount. Just one question. How do you replace the thermostat that is hardwired with the existing timer?

[@paulthompson5416]

Thanks Andy

[@stevebrown5301]

well made guide, thank you

[@LabRat6619]

Was it not a universal back plate? Could you not have just swapped the wires to the correct terminals?

[@junkendriven]

Unfortunately not, I'd expected it to be a standard/universal plate, I'm not sure if this was the hive or my old plate. Considering the original programmer/boiler in this house was built in 2014 I'd expect it to be pretty new spec-wise so perhaps this is the hive plate that differs.

[@LabRat6619]

@@junkendriven I have miniature cable ties for such an occasion. Bundle everything off each terminal, take a photo, then away we go.

[@adrianmatthews8548]

So what happens to the HW off and Heating off wires? They were fitted to the old controller but not the hive. Are they taped up and not used? Thanks