Holek Automat

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Forgotten Weapons

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@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 6 жыл бұрын
The utter simplicity of this design is outstanding. How this never became the blueprint for a combat rifle is amazing.
@Sean_Coyne
@Sean_Coyne 8 жыл бұрын
Beautifully made rifle and at $2,250, quite a bargain for such an interesting piece from such a famous family.
@norcofreerider604
@norcofreerider604 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I don't think you could make a new one for what this one sold for.
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 5 ай бұрын
That firearm looks fantastic, especially the wood
@THR33SIXX3MPYR
@THR33SIXX3MPYR 9 жыл бұрын
A modern reproduction of this gun would be amazing, it just seems like such a user friendly design!
@lukaszpokoju
@lukaszpokoju 9 жыл бұрын
When I see such a neat silhouette and design I cannot help thinking: "Add it a 10 rounds double stack magazine, change the charging handle position, add a dust cover on this big ejection port,improve the rear sight and it would probably have turned it into a excellent combat rifle!" Anyway thanks again, Ian for making us discover such exotic weapons.
@MrPizza-fe8jh
@MrPizza-fe8jh 8 жыл бұрын
+MrAvanile It could have been the inital idea to first sell these as civilian hunting rifles first (with rich, high-ranking, influencial millitary people among his clients) and then going to army with an improved design and hope that the Colonels and Sargants and such were so happy with their hunting rifles they would want to trial a millitary version of it. Sounds like a good marketing plan to me.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 7 жыл бұрын
Double-stack mag feeding would have been the most difficult of those mods to make I'd imagine.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 7 жыл бұрын
And that bottom gas vent would have been an issue with debris entering the action. A separate charging handle would have been in order. The transfer bar which is the rear-most part of the gas system looks complex to machine. All issues.
@raditya5663
@raditya5663 Жыл бұрын
@dimapez Chraging handle position like in HK but down under
@ToggleSwitch13
@ToggleSwitch13 9 жыл бұрын
Man, hearing that thing cycle is VERY satisfying to the ears.
@LukeColt
@LukeColt 9 жыл бұрын
+WesticlesEmpire My thoughts exactly, if a swiss watch was a rifle, it would make that same cocking noise. Overall lovely gun. There's something cool about a rifle so obscure.
@Sanguinium
@Sanguinium 9 жыл бұрын
+WesticlesEmpire It looks super smooth. Something tells me it would rival a smooth bolt action in cycling feel.
@bt67766
@bt67766 9 жыл бұрын
dat Czechnology
@JayRaxter
@JayRaxter 9 жыл бұрын
+LukeColt I agree AND it fires an easy to obtain and reload cartridge. For me $2k+ isn't 'affordable' (though I do own a 556 SWAT and a 556R which would be over $2k). It is just a very nice looking rifle though.
@LukeColt
@LukeColt 9 жыл бұрын
Jay Raxter I don't live anywhere near the Auction place so its a no for me :( But that is a great point Jay, the 7x57 is very much available and from what I hear it's a fantastic cartridge. I'd love to see that rifle up close man, I really would.
@adrianlarkins7259
@adrianlarkins7259 9 жыл бұрын
This rifle looks almost brand new. The stock and bluing are in A1 condition
@GunsWatchesCO
@GunsWatchesCO 9 жыл бұрын
I love how elegant that gun in its simplicity. That you for showing this one.
@gunfuego
@gunfuego 9 жыл бұрын
This is rhe most elegant and beautiful rifle I have ever seen. I've seen thousands of firearms and this takes the cake. Simplistic and ergonomic.
@eugeneharrelson3933
@eugeneharrelson3933 4 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful rifle. Wish modern manufacturers would go back to something like this but make it affordable.
@mistermanji
@mistermanji 9 жыл бұрын
I really like the way this rifle looks. European semi-autos have always been so interesting to me.
@commissarpistols606
@commissarpistols606 9 жыл бұрын
I bet that would be a nice deer rifle. 7mm mauser is a good cartridge too.
@raider762
@raider762 9 жыл бұрын
Sure is a simple design. No tools needed. I like.
@baron8107
@baron8107 9 жыл бұрын
This gun looked very ahead of it's time.
@LukeColt
@LukeColt 9 жыл бұрын
That is one of the most wonderful designs for an elegant hunting rifle that I have ever seen. Love it !
@arnomaas6452
@arnomaas6452 9 жыл бұрын
such a mechanically beautiful gun !
@RukaSubCh
@RukaSubCh 8 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a really simple and pretty brilliant design.
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 9 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a very simple and clean design! Another interesting gun. Thanks for the download:) btw $2-8k for an auction piece is not exactly affordable to most so I can't imagine the other prices during Julia's 'regular' days lol
@GrumblingGrognard
@GrumblingGrognard 9 жыл бұрын
+Chris Dooley Hey, old farts like us have to have something to do if we win that lottery! :) Screw the Eruo-car. You'll see me hanging with Ian! ;)
@SFHFWill
@SFHFWill 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool rifle. I really like how simple and clean it looks. As a hunting rifle I think it has a very amazing design. Great weapon. Thanks Ian!
@J9_j3
@J9_j3 9 жыл бұрын
very elegantly designed mechanics. a joy for an engineer to look at. a lot of thought was put into design obviously, too bad it didn't have further evolutionary development.
@DudeNumberOnePlus
@DudeNumberOnePlus 9 жыл бұрын
The innards are surprisingly beautiful.
@alfulton5946
@alfulton5946 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised noone makes one like this now it looks very simple to produce compared to other semi automatic guns
@tis7963
@tis7963 3 жыл бұрын
I just saw one of these in the flesh at the NRA Sporting Arms Museum in the Bass Pro in Springfield, MO. It is indeed a gorgeous gun.
@crocop195
@crocop195 9 жыл бұрын
I simply can not understand that this never got picked up as a military rifle,it is so simple and the mechanism seems really reliable,and with a few modifications like a bigger magazine and changing the position of the charging handle I bet it would outperform a g43,garand,svt and almost everything else
@sprmusa
@sprmusa 8 жыл бұрын
Such beautiful craftmanship. Gorgeous rifle
@jamiehalford1345
@jamiehalford1345 7 жыл бұрын
beautifully engineered disassembly.
@aserta
@aserta 9 жыл бұрын
Deceivingly complex, complicated manufacturing, and the insanity of making a sporting rifle in the middle of a World War...if the gun weren't so beautiful, i'd say Mr. Holek was one bullet short of a full magazine. Lovely firearm Ian, thank you for picking it up on video for us.
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, and elegant design.
@jacohaasbroek3311
@jacohaasbroek3311 9 жыл бұрын
You can see the BRNO type styling coming through on this rifle
@jimmelnyk7506
@jimmelnyk7506 8 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful rifle, both in its lines and design.
@SgtPattyson
@SgtPattyson 9 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Nambu Type 100 SMG? Unless you've already done one and that I've just managed to miss it. Keep up the great work!
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 9 жыл бұрын
Nice disassemble. Very easy and smooth. I like that rifle. It seems very well crafted.
@MrRoboskippy
@MrRoboskippy 9 жыл бұрын
That's a very cool gun Ian, thanks for posting. It also looks like no one ever used it. It reminds me, in many ways, of an AK.
@noob5000000
@noob5000000 9 жыл бұрын
I like it, aesthetically pleasing and elegantly designed. I'm not crazy about the sling swivel charging handle, though.
@SporkmanBW
@SporkmanBW 9 жыл бұрын
That is just a beautiful rifle. Whoever gets that is very lucky indeed.
@stevelewis7263
@stevelewis7263 2 жыл бұрын
That is a very nice simple gun, would be great to see it on the range
@GrOuNdZeRo7777
@GrOuNdZeRo7777 9 жыл бұрын
I REALLY like that design and it could've had some potential as a military firearm with a larger magazine and perhaps a smaller intermediate cartridge. But a very nice sporter too, If I had my own factory I would take this design and reverse engineer it...It's a shame so many cool firearms saw so little production....I'd buy it in a heart beat and not be afraid to shoot it occasionally either.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 9 жыл бұрын
It is surprisingly easy to disassemble for a sporting rifle.
@craigpp10
@craigpp10 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking gun. No doubt that it's also very comfortable to shoot.
@slowpokebr549
@slowpokebr549 9 жыл бұрын
Pardon my language, but Holy Shit is that a nice simple design. Why in the heck didn't someone graft a big magazine onto that design and use it as an infantry rifle. My Garand takes about twice the time to take down and put back together, let alone a SVT 40.
@commodork
@commodork 9 жыл бұрын
This gun looks reliable as hell.
@jeffhumphreys8642
@jeffhumphreys8642 9 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous rifle and in such good shape! Thanks for the videos Forgotten Weapons! Keep it up!
@DruidicRifleman
@DruidicRifleman 9 жыл бұрын
Thats actually very Nice
@DruidicRifleman
@DruidicRifleman 9 жыл бұрын
+DruidicRifleman I said that before Seeing the take down.... that thing is Beautiful
@blindman_outdoors6707
@blindman_outdoors6707 9 жыл бұрын
it seems like its a clean very simple rifle. it'd be really fun to shoot and own
@burleydad
@burleydad 9 жыл бұрын
Yet another thing the existence of which I was completely unaware that I now feel compelled to have immediately!
@IMarcaI
@IMarcaI 8 жыл бұрын
This is a really lovely gun
@r4fken
@r4fken 9 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful rifle. It looks like if it had had more interest then it could have very easily been adjusted for military use. What a lovely rifle.
@vetrnymlyn2
@vetrnymlyn2 9 жыл бұрын
+Pippin I love old Czech guns, becouse I am from Czech republic! So I totaly agree with your opinion.
@r4fken
@r4fken 9 жыл бұрын
Adam Foxik After firing a CZ75 I am in love with most Czech guns. Its a shame I cannot own them in the UK. I have to make do with airsoft replicas. :/
@vetrnymlyn2
@vetrnymlyn2 9 жыл бұрын
+Pippin To be honest with You. I have never shoot from any gun, but I love too look to the inovation, new ideas, that came up when desinging new weapons. The oder the gun, the more interesting ideas. :-)
@brianmiller9365
@brianmiller9365 9 жыл бұрын
"might have had something to do with it" -- great vid again. Cool gun indeed! WOW Thanks for your time and effort. I really like this rifle.
@MattdelBosque
@MattdelBosque 8 жыл бұрын
Wow what a beautiful rifle I'd love something like that in my collection
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 9 жыл бұрын
very cool design
@pistonar
@pistonar 9 жыл бұрын
Wow. Elegantly simple and well made. Of all the guns you've reviewed for the various auction houses, this is one of the very few I would bid on if I could. I wouldn't maroon to just sit there in a safe. I would shoot that one.
@Sobspeed
@Sobspeed 9 жыл бұрын
The stuff of legends in my country!
@robertbogan225
@robertbogan225 9 жыл бұрын
What! this guns so awesome! It's so simple in side I wish I could see it shoot... I got to shoot a 8mm mauser it's nice but a semi auto in 8mm that's just awesome
@ap1s2k78
@ap1s2k78 6 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous and elegant
@Destilight
@Destilight 9 жыл бұрын
Yay, two videos in a day!!!
@ronaldcolman6211
@ronaldcolman6211 9 жыл бұрын
Very elegant in it's engineering, I'm actually surprised the Germans didn't crib more of it's design for the stg44 etc. The hammer setup reminds me of later 'assault rifle' design, the AR15 and Ak spring readily to mind. Either way it's a gorgeous rifle that I'm sorry to say I'd never heard of until today.
@MidnightdoesWoT
@MidnightdoesWoT 7 жыл бұрын
This makes me very very happy because it's very very simple!!
@ERWERman
@ERWERman 8 жыл бұрын
From the video it seem it's a very high quality made.
@CrispyGFX
@CrispyGFX 9 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous rifle.
@Empireabc
@Empireabc 9 жыл бұрын
It looks like it came outta the factory just yesterday!
@mruler360
@mruler360 9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video on a VZ52 or VZ52/57?
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
+mruler360 That would be a good one and right up his alley. For how popular the sks is, it would interest a lot of people while still fulfilling the 'forgotten' requirement.
@Arrowdodger
@Arrowdodger 9 жыл бұрын
What a lovely gun. I'm glad he was able to keep working even during WW2. I guess as nice as this is, it's not suitable for warfare.
@phil180700
@phil180700 9 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous looking rifle :o
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice condition.
@newdefsys
@newdefsys 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@RussellHoughton
@RussellHoughton 9 жыл бұрын
I would say it's a case of the right gun wrong time.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 6 жыл бұрын
Sling swivel should have been on the gas block. Imagine the inertia of overcoming the sling attached to basically the op rod.
@icasabona
@icasabona 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, disassemble and "guts" look very much like my CZ 511, which is a straight blowback .22 caliber carbine, but it really looks like it.
@WrexShepard
@WrexShepard 9 жыл бұрын
Because the gas piston is directly connected to the charging "handle," there appears to be an open gap in the gas piston cylinder where the handle moves. It looks like gas could escape out of that hole? Would that be a problem in that it would spray hot gas out the bottom?
@zow97
@zow97 9 жыл бұрын
+Eric Barnett I wondered the same thing -- and wouldn't that loss of pressure keep the piston from sliding all the way to the rear?
@GLMtr
@GLMtr 9 жыл бұрын
Name in description is not Franticek, it is supposed to be Frantisek (Václav and František to be presice). Nice video greetings from Czech republic.
@troubleboy
@troubleboy 9 жыл бұрын
+GLMtr Also Vaclav is pronounced Vatslav, not Vaklav, iirc.
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ 9 жыл бұрын
+GLMtr +Forgotten Weapons I was going to be pedantic about it too (as a proud Czech), but You know, Czech is harsh language and Ian is doing his best. Let's be glad that there are quite a lot interesting yet forgotten weapons, which were made here. :-) For linguistically interested ones: František should be pronounced with very soft "t" and high pitched, short "i". "Š" might be considered quite similar to "ch" in French Chauchat LMG. Václav is much simpler because it has just hard "c" (like in Curych) and "á" which is just a prolonged "a" (near to slowly pronounced father). Thank you guys for Your patience with me being smarta**. :-)
@GLMtr
@GLMtr 9 жыл бұрын
Vaklav was also said in BBT by Sheldon so it can be excused since producers of very famous sitcom got it wrong too.
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ 9 жыл бұрын
GLMtr As I said. Czech might not be as difficult as Finnish but it is still a wierd mix of mostly slavic roots with latin grammar and many words or rules taken from German. You end like that if You were eclectic country in the middle of Europe with strong influence from everyone around...for thousand years :-D
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 9 жыл бұрын
+Vojtěch “Mortis” Ptáček There is a website I recently found, for just this purpose: forvo.com/word/franti%C5%A1ek/#cs forvo.com/word/v%C3%A1clav/#cs
@finalfantasy50
@finalfantasy50 9 жыл бұрын
Would the Skorpion vz. 61 count as a forgotten weapon that could be in this series? It is one of my favorites
@lukaszpokoju
@lukaszpokoju 9 жыл бұрын
I might say "no" as, in my opinion even if it is an old-fashionned weapon, it remains an iconic gun, rather famous and well known in firearms history. Although Ian made a topic on it on his website, and the article is quite interesting : www.forgottenweapons.com/submachine-guns/vz61-skorpion/ .But to my knowledge, there's no video about it. However the design of this gun is very neat and interesting.
@nosuchthingasshould4175
@nosuchthingasshould4175 6 жыл бұрын
Such a clean design. Why has tilting bolt gone out of use?
@cofrbooboo
@cofrbooboo 9 жыл бұрын
I would love to have that in my safe!
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 7 жыл бұрын
The feature on the bolt that prevents the firing pin from being struck; would you describe this as a form of anti-pre-ingagement? Or am I misunderstanding?
@hughgordon6435
@hughgordon6435 4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered where the bsa undercover shorter air rifle got its cues
@aasifihiaasif9521
@aasifihiaasif9521 2 жыл бұрын
Very very lovely
@Xzibit9
@Xzibit9 9 жыл бұрын
10:29 I see what you did there ^^
@Xzibit9
@Xzibit9 9 жыл бұрын
check = czech, get it?
@dominic0147
@dominic0147 9 жыл бұрын
i have a 1991 Mitchell american eagle luger i know they are pretty rare and maybe you could do a video on it ?
@dominic0147
@dominic0147 9 жыл бұрын
RonJohn63 i already did
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 5 жыл бұрын
This could probably have been greatly simplified, and given better features to make it an excellent Battle Rifle. The simplicity of operation and disassembly would be perfect for a military weapon, and only some of the more complex machining on the carrier makes it more difficult to manufacture.
@axelord4ever
@axelord4ever 9 жыл бұрын
_Automat_ I LIKE THAT WORD! EDIT: first
@axelord4ever
@axelord4ever 9 жыл бұрын
+DUKE NUKEM Actually, no. AUTOMAT, check 3:50
@robnunya572
@robnunya572 7 жыл бұрын
Elegant. How does it shoot?
@jamesranger6283
@jamesranger6283 6 жыл бұрын
Typical czech firearms very well made. Crazy nice.
@cheapgangairsoft
@cheapgangairsoft 9 жыл бұрын
The trigger unit reminds me of the one in the Gewehr 43, is it just an impression or am i actually right?
@m1994a3jagnew
@m1994a3jagnew 9 жыл бұрын
I look all around and I see the cheapest firearm I could find was a Savage Arms 12 gauge pump gun. I think I can do better. If I ever get the chance to open up my own weapons company I plan on producing pump guns for $75 along with cheap accessible firearms. In addition to clones of more successful firearm designs that you otherwise would never get unless you're absolutely loaded. Guns for the people from the people to the people.
@Rigzly23
@Rigzly23 9 жыл бұрын
that bolt carrier seems fairly reminiscent of a Winchester 100
@Andy47357
@Andy47357 9 жыл бұрын
how did this not become a military service rifle?!
@samrussell4065
@samrussell4065 9 жыл бұрын
Considering the traditional subversive element to the Checzhs, this looks like a way to research an automatic rifle without it coming to the attention of the occupying Germans. If this had been produced by the family firm they might have took notice, but who would bother with a small factory producing a few sporting rifles?
@uzivatel56
@uzivatel56 9 жыл бұрын
+Sam Russell "Traditional subversive element" - I like that! Greetings from Czech republic.
@samrussell4065
@samrussell4065 9 жыл бұрын
***** When it comes to the Czechs, never underestimate their patriotism, their independence and their capacity for subversion. Czechoslovakia was a nation under the Nazi jackboot, but striving to be free. An effective semi-automatic rifle would have been very useful for the Resistance.
@scullystie4389
@scullystie4389 8 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful rifle. That charging handle seems like a rather bad engineering decision though.
@furkanbayrak6306
@furkanbayrak6306 9 жыл бұрын
can you do a video for kirikkale Turkish mauser if you can find
@jameslawrie3807
@jameslawrie3807 2 жыл бұрын
Elegant
@TheyCallMeMagz
@TheyCallMeMagz 9 жыл бұрын
Even though this gun is mechanically simple, I'd still be afraid to disassemble it. I think I'd forget how to reassemble it halfway through.
@Hurricane2k8
@Hurricane2k8 9 жыл бұрын
+MAGO5 The Progenitor In case that ever happened to Ian (which I doubt, given his obvious knowledge and understanding of engineering and guns in general), all he would need to do is have a look at the video he just recorded of him disassembling the gun and reverse the steps.
@WalkaCrookedLine
@WalkaCrookedLine 7 жыл бұрын
Having the sling swivel attached to the bolt handle seems a really poor feature. Can't use the sling in your targeting stance as Ian mentions; also seems the thing could easily be bumped out of battery when carried slung. In extreme cases the sling might pull the bolt back far enough to catch a new round and double feed. Ian describes the safety as blocking the hammer, so I suppose an accidental discharge isn't really possible with the safety on, but still.
@ianbabcock6802
@ianbabcock6802 8 жыл бұрын
Where would you mount a scope?
@ButForWhy666
@ButForWhy666 9 жыл бұрын
Would probably make a damn good hunting rifle, if you could find a way to mount a scope on it
@gannonwoods2456
@gannonwoods2456 9 жыл бұрын
Considering that it was very easy to field strip, why would the Germans not want to convert this to a military arm? They tried to use the G43 but that was a flop. Seems to me that the big thing would be to take the gun, put another sling swivel on the slide, there by making the one on the bottom the charging handle. Then just make a larger magazine for it. Was it more expensive to produce? certainly would not be the tooling because the Germans were willing to create a new factory for the G43.
@ayebraine
@ayebraine 9 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, it's so funny that Ian says "CHEKLOslovakia" instead of "Czechoslovakia" over and over again for some reason! )) (Just as trivia, the actual pronunciation I think would be closer to "Chekhoslavakiya", with "kh" as a very soft "h". Yeah, every time you see it in Slavic words, it's not a brutal manly "KHHH!" =)
@TigeroL42
@TigeroL42 4 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you connect the sling swivel to the gun mechanism..
@mattsamoto4451
@mattsamoto4451 Жыл бұрын
That gas system and front furnature kinda reminds me of a BAR.. from the front. looks heavy for a sporting rifle. Then again this is antiquity
@douglasfulmer5483
@douglasfulmer5483 9 жыл бұрын
Sling swivel as a cocking mechanism? Sounds like it would hurt, and destroy the use of a sling. Look at that gorgeous wood. I usually like polymer, but.....
@smartlp3010
@smartlp3010 7 жыл бұрын
So is there a reason they never got into Military use? I mean yeah sporting rifle but what exactly prevents the projectile of a sporting rifle from killing a human?
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