Holly Wheeler is going to VANISH in Season 5! (Theory)

In todays video I gave you the most recent Stranger Things Theory of mine regarding the Wheeler Family, if you enjoyed it be sure to drop a like!
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[@ChaosOnCrack911]

I also think it’s Holly for multiple reasons. One, she has the last line when saying “look mom, it’s snowing!” Two, they are now only recasting her, but also getting a stunt double for her. Last, when she followed the lights to the wall, notice it was in a neat line, like how it was when somebody in the upside down was trying to communicate, so it couldn’t have been a demegorgon that was leading her. Let me know if I missed anything ;)

[@heatherL4834]

I always thought it was Will she was following.

[@ChaosOnCrack911]

@@heatherL4834 I agree, but why would Will lead Holly there when they’ve never actually talked in the show?

[@heatherL4834]

@@ChaosOnCrack911 She was the only one paying attention at the moment. Idk

[@DontChaseReplace]

Holly's interesting, because she notices things. The wall movement in season 1, she notices the trees moving in season 3 and she points out to Karen "its snowing" in season 4. She's definitely subtlety connected to it all. And if you notice the "vanishing of blank wheeler" it's underlined 5 lines, so it could mean nothing but if not that excludes Mike. So yeah it's either Karen, Nancy or Holly

[@JusticeCheesePlays]

also ted

[@Urlocaleggos]

@@JusticeCheesePlays no not ted because his name has three letters

[@pllandstfan]

@@Urlocaleggos No, they're saying exclude Ted also ( with Mike ). But I don't think that specifically means it's a character with only 5 letters to their first name. I just think that's only put there hypothetically.

[@Urlocaleggos]

@@pllandstfan ohh ok thanks for explaining

[@HellfireClubLegacy]

Stranger Things: The First Shadow, confirms that The Mind Flayer Is The Real Antagonist on Stranger Things.

[@thekiddcolussi2003]

I really really want to see the mind flayer final form in season 5. The closest we ever got was seeing it behind the gate when 11 closed it at the end of season 2

[@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch]

Is there something i missed bc the show makes it seem that Vecna is the big bad

[@thekiddcolussi2003]

@@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch Well vecna found the mind flayer particles and formed what we know is the mind flayer. So it kind of existed before Henry was in the upside down.. but he made it what it is

[@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch]

@@thekiddcolussi2003 That much i know, and i actually hope that MF turns out as the true big bad but i thought those particles were braindead and Henry gave them life. If the play is canon then that would make me way happier with season 4.

[@thekiddcolussi2003]

@@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch I always thought the mind flayer was the thesselhydra…I may be wrong

[@moth7457]

I think Holly will find Max. She will enter the Upside Down before the time jump and be there for years after the time jump. El might be asked to locate Holly.

[@bloodyneptune]

LONG one lol See, I think they just recast Holly because of the time jump. If the titles are legit, I think it'll be Mike that gets taken. My theory is still that Will created the upside down Hawkins (not the upside down itself). Like, he was born with powers just like Vecna, but like El can open dimensional rifts, and Kali causes hallucinations, I think Will's is going to be related to imagination/creation, and he just thought "i want to go home, I want my mom" and unknowingly created his own version of home and a way to contact his mom _And_ if you watch super close when Els in the lab and trying to find a happy memory, just before the memories shown, those same light particles are there. So it's only good things associated with it, while dark particles are only associated with bad things I think Vecna needs both their powers for his plan to work. A way to get out, and a way to create his perfect world here. And he got the portal one already But he cant send a demigorgon to get Will now because of his spider sense and Els protection. But if he takes Mike, Will is absolutely going after him. And it makes sense. Vecna controls the mindflayer, the mindflayer possessed Will, ergo Vecna knows Wills into Mike because he's been in his mind Oh, _and,_ Mike told El the day he met her was the happiest day of his life. If _Mike_ gets taken, he'll have to live though what Will went through while Mike was off having the best day of his life dressing up a forest child he found And Holly getting taken would kinda mean nothing to me. All I know about her is that she owns a lite brite and that her names Holly.

[@RelayTS]

Good theory and fair counter point. I think my only counter would be if Holly got taken it would be an easy way for the Duffers to have the parents get more involved and in the loop

[@aaryaaswadhati5525]

this isn't that bad but Henry go this powers from dimension x

[@He4rts_fr0m_l1ly]

The actual actor of ted wheeler actually said that he was going to have a much bigger role in season 5 and I think his role might be to save the missing wheeler

[@storieswithfarouk6739]

Guys karen works for vecna, that's why she sent will home exactly then demogorgon was gettinb out by telling mike to stop playing, plus when karen saw that holly was scared from the wall she thought nothing of it, and this has 2 explanations, she is either alice, or she will vanish because she did all if this for vecna to keep her familly safe at the end of the world, but he only vanishes her actually keeping her safe while he destroys the rest of the world, and my theort is that she would realise she was wrong and uses vecna's trust to her against hum helping the team, kinda like kas actually but no eddy has nothing to do with this it's just a coincidence.

[@grayerb9868]

If the 5x2 episode is actually going to be titled “The Vanishing of Blank/Holly Wheeler” then it’s definitely going to have a significant parallel to 1x1 “Vanishing of Will Byers”

[@Maddie-sl5rr]

I think holly is because we all know how Will was a kid when he got missing right? Well holy is like going to be 13 and Will was like 13 so most likely she will be missing

[@pllandstfan]

The boys and El were only 12 in season 1. I think they're only going to age Holly to be 9 or 10 because in season 4 she was only 6 and the year was 1986. And from what I heard season 5 takes place mostly between 1987 and 1988.

[@SportsWithPace]

Great Theory, has me pumped for stranger things !

[@aashishjayanarayanan8255]

I have a feeling Holly's drawings will have to do something. Maybe she'll start drawing things which connects with those huge creatures. I also have this feeling that she will encounter with one of the creatures. (Maybe she will go missing.)

[@Local_savior]

I think that Holly will be basically a pre teen since stranger things 5 will be a long time jump but i think she will start having episodes like will because she noticed the trees moving in season 3, The wall demogorgon in season 1, and the “snow” in season 4, for i think she will maybe have trauma about the four chimes earthquake. But this is js my theory

[@Formattt2012]

I think the whole wheeler family is gonna die except nancy bc you remember when she was possessed by vecna actually i do think that nancy is gonna die in season 5 bc she got possessed and vecna said something similar to your time hasn’t come yet so ya but back to the family nancy explains that vecna showed her whole family dieing so ya if you think not just tell me

[@Feeral]

I have heard that in "The First Shadow," Henry vanished to dimension X and returned with different type of blood. Mabye Holly Wheeler disappearing to dimension X could lead to exploring that storyline, and mabye thats Karen Wheeler is at Memorial Hospital because Holly returned with diffrent blood. They hinted at making it possible to watch season 5 without having seen "The First Shadow." play...

[@calebfletcher1]

Hey I checked out your website and I was wondering if there could be a feature where we could put our own theories in there? I have a good one

[@RelayTS]

As of right now there is no commenting feature or anything but eventually I want to definitely have some sort of live chat feature on the site. As far as other peoples theories on their thats going to be down the line but hopefully in the future it will be possible!

[@calebfletcher1]

@@RelayTS Thank you! Love your content by the way, keep going!

[@Barathadeviyogarajah]

I think that instead of Karen going missing Mike will go missing. This is because if Vecna or the Mindflayer takes Mike, El would be pissed and empowered to kill them and when she goes to kill them it will be a trap for El and it will cause her to get stuck in the upside down. I have a feeling El will kill Vecna but she will also die because as we know from season 2 if El closes the upside she gets stuck in there. That’s how I think El would die.

[@pllandstfan]

Well I do agree that most likely this is either Mike or Nancy who goes missing because it will affect all of the main characters from season 1 ( Karen is still a possibility though because a lot of the other main characters would still be affected ). But Holly? That only affect the Wheeler family. Where does Jonathan, Steve, Will, Dustin, Lucas and Eleven fit in if the main focus is Holly for season 5 happens? And then where does Hopper and Joyce fit? These are all the main characters from season 1 along with Nancy and Mike but only they will be heavily involved in this. Plus what about main characters that came after season 1 like Robin, Murray, Erica and Max who are also suppose to have major focus in season 5. It's starting to become really confusing and I hope a lot of theories are wrong about Holly because more than half the main characters will be pushed to being side characters like the Cali crew was in season 4 ( and that would include Will and Eleven who I thought were suppose to be the main focus in season 5 ).

[@its.UKashyap]

I think that Holly won't will be the one vanishing but Mike. SInce Mike is the heart of the group, and humans cannot live without their heart, things will go down and the group will be in a total disastrous situation. This will result in El and Will, both of Mike's lovers, to go on a mission for Mike which will result in either one or both of them sacrificing themselves.

[@line8898]

can you make a video about the new VR Vecna game? I would love too see this (: its about his story and there are some big reveals as well. like why he chose Will. thanks for your videos. I really enjoy them.

[@moth7457]

I don't think Holly will be taken. I think she will accidentally get lost in the Upside Down. Like The Little Girl Lost episode of the Twilight Zone.

[@moth7457]

And how old will Suzie's siblings, Eden, Tabitha, Tatum, Cornelius, Sterling, Tanner, and Peter be after the time jump.?

[@d1r8i3p9y]

the crawl: probably the tunnels that will saw when he was possessed with the mind flayer vanishing of ____ wheeler: probably holly The turbow trap: a machine for sound Sorcerer: like a wizard maybe el Shock jock: idk why but I get flashbacks from the holly jolly episode Escape from camazots: camazots are bats and probably will be the demobats

[@user-ib3nr1qe2q]

Nah sorcerer is gonna have will die remember he's will the wise and the drawing he made of himself as will the wise is a wizard aka a sorcerer trust

[@pllandstfan]

@@user-ib3nr1qe2q Actually no. I read comments that this episode ( which is the 4th episode ) will be about a different character. It's not about Will or Eleven. because they are the leads and the main focus of season 5. So they both have to be there in the last episode to finally take Vecna down.

[@ryanstauffer119]

I think Holly will have a role similar to Jacob from "Nightmare on Elm Street: Dream Child". In that, Alice is pregnant with Jacob and Freddy's appears in his dreams, manipulating him to help out with his work. So what if Vecna does the same with Holly? He would have to appear either when he was a boy; Henry as if the same age or even as One to appear friendly. Holly could make drawings of him in which Nancy can notice.

[@user-km6hi2kz2t]

I always thought she wud b a big charactor

[@harrycrazedvidos8842]

We are all Stranger Things nerds Because we are all obsessed with news of season five (:

[@Lol20099]

I like the girl that plays holly right now I don’t want her actor to change😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@CJ2Dope_15]

I also feel like will will have powers just not like eleven but like the character “will the wise” the wizard that has a staff and the staff has powers

[@pllandstfan]

Possibly but I also read that somebody else might too.

[@hayley8238]

so justice for barb finally? do you think she will be back? I dont really see a story for her in season 5 though

[@RobloxFun123-gf1po]

😮

[@anababe82]

If Holly does die i will cry for weeks cus she's too cute, young, and just I love her to much to die😢

[@DMH1995z]

Karen told us she’s back working on episode 2 then it goes off🤔

[@ChaosOnCrack911]

That was so good! I definitely think it’s Holly now! You’re one of my favorite KZbinrs, you give us so much info! Can I be please pinned?

[@keimondbell945]

I 100% do believe that Holly vanishes early on in the season around the second episode Karen I think Vecna’s totally going to do something to hurt her in a very brutal way and Mike I don’t know too much about him being in as much danger ⚠️ but Nancy did mention Mike as well so I think something bad could’ve happened to him in battle which might have something to do with the dragon in Will’s painting but I don’t think that’s what Vecna showed Nancy so that doesn’t count and that doesn’t actually foreshadow anything but I don’t know that’s just my opinion but let’s still keep our fingers crossed and hope that Karen Holly and Mike all make it out alive.🌅👍😊

[@EmilyDevereux-oz4kw]

I think if holly goes missing then hopper might find more about sarah because holly looks like sarah so what if sarah is holly

[@moth7457]

Holly is not Sarah.

[@katytargaryen3873]

That makes me a bit sad for some reason. Anniston and Tinsley Price have always been Holly. I hope they won't be sad about not playing her anymore. Hopefully if they pick someone new they will feel and fit the part well. Like Michael Gambon becoming Dumbledore for me personally it felt off to me. I never got attached to him. I don't remember feeling sad at all when his character left. When I know the film makers wanted me to feel that way. I mean idk how many spin off shows or movies they want to make but I wouldn't have guessed making a Holly show. We don't know much of her but Idk anyone wanting her to have more details and background. Karen's popular, wouldn't she get her own show before Holly? Karen finding real romantic love or an Erica show sounds more compelling to me.

[@averyhannah9212]

Episode 8 NEEDS to be called “The disappearance of Will Byers” like when everything comes full circle that would be so amazing

[@fatoukane2130]

nah I don't think so because episode 8 will be especially about killing vecna and destroying the upside down for good and having that as a title for EP 8 won't match but I think the context will be in the first episode of season 5 maybe the Duffer brother will release the real title of these episodes and maybe one of these episode will be called November 6 1983 IDK

[@santaclaus10011]

When is Tudum 2024?

[@FjorimKorra]

Stranger things season 5 is going to be this year

[@lovailie]

no its early 2025 but idk

[@FjorimKorra]

@@lovailie is not in 2025 because they are in ep8 so for 4 months trailer is going to drop

[@lovailie]

@@FjorimKorra thank you so much

[@RelayTS]

@@FjorimKorrathey are no where near filming episode 8, they just finished writing episode 8. We are not going to see stranger things 5 until 2025

[@FjorimKorra]

@@RelayTS we are going to watch in 2025 but trailer is going to be this year I thinl

[@Shirtlessstevie2016]

Yes I thought it will be holly too

[@KristabelleLim]

What if Mike Wheeler😭

[@pllandstfan]

I think it will be him. But not for the reasons most of the fandom thinks the kidnapping is about. I will say I do think it has to do with only El ( not Will ). Just my opinion though.

[@user-pu9ic6hr8i]

vanishing of hoolly wheeler sound actuslly true

[@lorraiin33]

Kali should come back

[@Elevenhopperjane]

She is coming back

[@Matthew-pe6rf]

I don’t think that her going to die

[@EmilyDevereux-oz4kw]

What in the world

[@aaryaaswadhati5525]

You know something I realized what that they could of had a season where Joyce Murray go to rescue Hopper, and Dustin Mike Lucas Max all go to visit El and Mike, EL gets taken into NINA to get her powers back and it starts explaining her backstory, and meanwhile its the gang against the government like a throwback to the first season but this time they don't have El. Back at Hawkins Nancy, Robin and Steve investigate Chrissy's hallucinations later meeting Eddie who explains that chrissy sometimes just goes into a trance. Basically, the gang in california runs from the government, El gets her powers back, Joyce and Murray are trying to save hopper, and Nancy, Steve, Robin, and Eddie in hawkins investigate why chrissy has this trance moments, her 3 visions would happen over the course of the season. In the end El get's her powers and saves the gang from the government, Joyce rescues Hopper, but back in hawkins, Chrissy's visions get worse and in the end she dies like how she did in season 1 and eddie runs away, and vecna is reavealed In what would be season 5, in a way. Everyone comes back and gets caught up in the situation. Hopper is back to being chief of police but suspicion is raised in the town of how he survived. Robin, Steve, and Dustin and Mike go to look for Eddie, Max ever since coming back to Hawkins is reminded of Billy making her a bit depressed, Lucas joins to the basketball team to feel cool, making friends with the Jocks/Jason. Nancy teams up with Patrick to understand what happened when Chrissy died. I think you can piece together what happened, pretty much the events of season 4 happen but this time Eleven is here. She still piggybacks into Max's mind to fight vecna, Eddie still dies, max's running up that hill still happens and her going into a coma too. Basically the ending of Vol 2 season 4. I feel like this would have been so much better than everything cramming together. (idk j something I thought of)

[@user-mc5sy1nb4i]

I think that Jonathan qnd Dustin are gonna die

[@SammyChristianGuy]

True but I’m pretty sure someone said one of them will die. But then again that could’ve been around the time max was originally going to die

[@Santanaandfam]

Karen doesn't even know how to do Dungeons & Dragons

[@AndreaVictoriaa]

What is a spin off? English is not my first language

[@its.UKashyap]

a spin off is like a seperate movie/series on one of the characters from a movie/series focusing on a seperate story they faced or their point of view. for example, better call saul was a spin off on saul goodman from breaking bad.

[@anababe82]

If Holly does die i will cry for weeks cus she's too cute, young, and just I love her to much to die😢