Hollywood Wants To Ban Critical Drinker & Youtube Critics

Hollywood has continued to fail time and time again over the last couple of years, and many Hollywood studios like Disney, Marvel and media outlets have blamed "toxic" fans for these failures, however now it's shifting and Hollywood seems to be attacking youtube critics like The Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic and others like Disparu. It seems they now see this as an easy scapegoat and an easy way to blame their failures, rather than take accountability for their failures, when it comes to Marvel and the MCU as well as other studios like Disney.
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[@Taterazay95]

The corporations claiming Drinker caused Rings of Power to flop are saying that that drunk Weegie has more of an effect than their entire multi-billion dollar marketing department... makes you proud to be Scottish!

[@davidglad]

To be fair, he has credibility and is entertaining to watch. While most movies nowadays have a track record of being consistently awful. So consumers are sick of being played for chumps by studios that hate them. If Drinker or somebody else has a boring video, easier to go to the next versus theaters not letting you jump within a time slot to a better movie (if there is one)

[@PipoZePoulp]

@@davidglad "he has credibility and is entertaining to watch" And at the other side of the ring, they (PR) have little to no credibility and a bad product to sell. Talk about uphill battle...

[@Atlas-hu9wk]

Amen.

[@armondtanz]

As soon as drinker hit piers morgan show, i knew a hit piece will be on the horizon, i bet legacy media are contacting all drinkers ex's... Looking for anything to bring him down..

[@stevesteve8098]

Outstanding performance from our kilted friends..... Let's see how their anti first amendment attack goes....

[@Godstud]

Of course they want to ban critics they can't control or pay off. They lose money because people speak the truth online.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

EXACTLY

[@0rderr66]

This is another perfect example of how the people hold all the power in this country.

[@zpetar]

They lose money because of bad movies.

[@NotTheRealRustyShackleford]

KZbin regularly blocks or shadow bans my comments that speak inconvenient truth...

[@protorhinocerator142]

Notice how they're not going after Rotten Tomatoes. Interesting...

[@thesunstate5803]

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." Game of Thrones - A Clash of Kings.

[@tapiolautavaara9532]

I lost count 'cause sooooooo many people recommended this shit to me, so I checked and didn't need more than a few episodes to surmise I'd rather not waste my time on this crap. But people get praising it, like here we have some coolest shit ever, however wacthing more episodes here and there left me still unimpressed. Then there was a Battle, great, finally something worth watching for. Wrong: three episodes in a row fearing, preparing, more debauchery, repugnant characters talking shit behind each others back, all the usual, and then....let's skip the battle: organize our troops for slaughter right outside the walls and send the mobile ones as sacrificial lambs for the advancing army and watch from afar how they disappear in the night, taken out one by one. This plan was devised by a koala bear. And then that unimpressive brat stabs in to save the day. Or night to be exact, but it's so hard to care, when everything is just so foolish and silly. All high stakes and foreboding doom mostly boring Big talk for show and mirros to justify magnificent production costs, costumes and settings. Total waste of decent actors.

[@thesunstate5803]

@@tapiolautavaara9532 Everyone's a critic eh? I thought they did a pretty decent job on GOT, locations were good, costumes were outstanding and the story worked. You only have to watch 'Wheel of Time" (I could only stomach 3 episodes) or "Rings of Power"(which I was happy to sidestep altogether) to see how shitty the fantasy genre can be these days. I'm looking forward to House of the Dragon's second season this year too. btw the way the quote is directly from the book.

[@Darkington]

@@tapiolautavaara9532 Maybe its just not for you. The first 4 seasons are peak television. But tbh, the end of the show is so atrocious its not worth the investment just to be dissapointed.

[@williamthompson5504]

​@@tapiolautavaara9532That show is GAF.

[@willemthijssen1082]

@@tapiolautavaara9532 Your description is the Battle of Winterfell in S8. The last 2 seasons were absolute horseshit, 5 and 6 were good, and 1-4 are phenomenal. However, if you just want to watch battles, it isn't the show for you. It was the dialogue, the complex characters, and the verbal fights that made the show great, and those things were missing in the latter seasons

[@1Dreamking]

Imagine owning a restaurant and blaming the food critic for your bad food or bad service...

[@itzguzma4075]

Amy’s baking company be like

[@donwalsh9426]

Lady Gaga's dad did at his restaurant. Literally, it's not my food. The entire reason Restaurant Makeovers was filmed.

[@donwalsh9426]

​@@itzguzma4075Great episode. Amy and her husband are STILL trying today. This is the reason criminals can't stay out of prison.

[@thecursed01]

like ther german government blaming everyone and everything for the current collapse..just not themselves. and yes, they are taking steps to banning critics

[@scottf5791]

Could just be the food critic giving the restaurant a bad reputation when the food is actually good.

[@petemitchell2124]

instead of making good movies, let's silence good critics

[@cariganpintalba9498]

I was going to post the same thing.

[@nikolausmoll9201]

Silencing critics is also the left-wing political style of recent years.

[@JLAvey]

Failure is looking a lot like addiction. The first step in treating addiction is admitting that you have a problem. Until those people admit they are the problem, their aren't going to fix it.

[@SansAziza]

A "good" critic, is simply one that says your opinions better than you. Nothing more.

[@realitycheck6333]

All of these mainstream industries have succumb to greed, they've sold out and thought no one would notice. They have no identity, no integrity, and no idea wtf to about it, so now in a last ditch dying effort, we're all going to watch them kick and scream like babies, but everyone else can see the inevitable writing on the wall.

[@nickn1782]

We have reached the point where it is far more entertaining to watch the off-leash online movie critic than to watch the movie.

[@AchtungEnglander]

Absolutely true. I think I have seen all those terrible movies and TV shows by watching them get ripped apart by these superb online critics.

[@lamichka]

indeed

[@danielpayne1597]

I would like this comment, but at 69 likes, you have already achieved perfection. Good day.

[@jacklawsen6390]

That's because most of the entertainment value in current movies is their terribleness and unintentional comedy.

[@veganconservative1109]

100% I get more enjoyment in watching Critical Drinker, Dave, and Pitch Meetings than suffering through the tripe they do in order to entertain us. And entertain they do.... which is a lot more than these 'movies' are doing.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

I think one of the reasons they hate The Critical Drinker so much is his coining of the phrase “The Message..” which is so effective in its blunt simplicity and has become so widespread

[@ikecarr5989]

The use of the term "THE MESSAGE" as we may now know it. Came to me from Jeremy from the Quartering

[@mistydolphin2524]

That, and he has more fans than their movies do.

[@romainrondeau4242]

​@@ikecarr5989yeah but it was taken from drinker ^^. The big THE MESSAGE with the voice change and all.

[@kenjifox4264]

@@romainrondeau4242with the echo sound effect

[@madhatter38m]

That's all I've got for today, go away now.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Ministry of Truth will not accept criticism against Ministry of truth. Otherwise you’ll be sent to Room 101

[@WK-47]

Wᴀʀ Is Pᴇᴀᴄᴇ. Fʀᴇᴇᴅᴏᴍ Is Sʟᴀᴠᴇʀʏ. Iɢɴᴏʀᴀɴᴄᴇ Is Sᴛʀᴇɴɢᴛʜ.

[@zachweichel6930]

A shitty movie is a good movie, so say the party

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

Imagine banning someone just because he said the movie was bad. Literally 1984.

[@Attmay]

If that movie was *Song of the South* or any movie musical after 1964 and before 1985 without Julie Andrews stinking it up, then a pre-emptive strike against such verbal terrorism would have reduced the number of hate crimes and oil wars by at least 33%.

[@ChaseEagleback]

@@Attmay verbal terrorism. 😂🤣😂 🤡

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

@LewtenantZen They disarmed something else more important: personal thoughts, and consequently critical thinking. If you cannot even ask yourself questions, you are at the mercy of those who make the call, like a meat puppet.

[@ntandokunene3610]

Movies these days are bad. They are not worth pirating anymore 😢

[@Attmay]

If new movies were any good, they would be worth paying for. I have seen two new Hollywood films in theaters in the last 12 months. Two. One was about a black reggae singer who died in his 30s. The other was about a plumber from Brooklyn whose best friend is a pizza topping.

[@pin2peen972]

That's why i watch movie recaps, whole movie in 10minutes

[@toshtao1]

And old movies were always good Mr. Rose Tinted Glasses?

[@Nick_Nightingale]

There are a trickle of good movies still being made. Last year Godzilla Minus One and Oppenheimer are examples.

[@WannabeShady90]

​@@AttmayDune 2 is amazing. Best movie since Joker in my opinion.

[@LyoZ.]

That's how you know good critics like The Critical Drinker are doing something right

[@JoeOvercoat]

Right?

[@HALO-2304]

Here's the thing: I didn't need Critical Drinker to tell me these movies and shows were awful. I appreciate him confirming they are as awful as I thought or even worse.

[@dlewis9760]

True. But if you and him agree a heck of a lot and he sees something before you do, his critic could save you the money. That's all that matters to Hollywood, it's the money. He's connecting with people to the point that money is not being spent.

[@theauntofdragons]

They better not ban Critical Drinker. He's got more people on his side than they have movie viewer's. Good luck. "Anyway, that's all for today, go away now."

[@debater452]

Not really Critical Drinker is a big fish in a small pound all things considered

[@Meisha-san]

​@@debater452KZbin, Amazon, Indepedant podcast platforms, & the indie movie industry. The Critical Drinker is making good waves in the ponds he's in.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

@@debater452 He clearly has a large enough audience that the film industry is worried about his opinions. Cinema Sins had similar issues with directors attacking them by name for mocking their films (for some reason I think it was that godawful The Core film, but that can't possibly have had a director). KZbinrs effect word-of-mouth, the only form of marketing that actually works and can't be faked (at least not easily) by expensive marketing firms. So they have a disproportionate effect, since their audiences talk to family and friends, effectively multiplying the reach of the KZbinr's criticism.

[@debater452]

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 1 million subs is not that much. Also when has that happen

[@mikeemmons1079]

@@debater452 Tell you waht: search YT real quick for "movie critic" compare the views and the creator details of the top 10. Then go away.

[@davidgustafik7968]

"Rings of Power just wasn't on the same level as the original Lord of the Rings movies" - it wasn't on par with a decent toothpaste commercial.

[@Attmay]

Cybill Shepherd got started in a toothpaste commercial. It must’ve been Peter Bogdanovich’s favorite toothpaste.

[@richardhockey8442]

it might just about trump the majority of contemporary UK TV advertising though

[@martystrasinger3801]

And the milk just gushed out of my nose😂

[@benjamingirard1984]

Hahaha! Now after reading this, I cannot stop thinking about the infamous slomo shot of Galadriel on the horse smiling like a dumbass without being it part of a toothpaste commercial lol Just imagine a sparkle on one of her teeth and there you go! Here's your commercial!

[@Notthatbrandon]

Yeah that was the understatement of the year

[@JamesCoffey]

the people with the problem aren't creatives, they're activists

[@jspaingreene6350]

Fascinating...I didn't know that I, as a 55yo woman of color who is also a lifelong nerd, am actually a Toxic Fan Boy....because I am critical of current studio choices, particularly by Disney.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

That's funny.

[@patmcbride9853]

The Party will not accept any criticism of the party.

[@leviathanlives4847]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[@ceoatcrystalsoft4942]

​@@leviathanlives4847"close your eyes" they said...

[@grantstratton2239]

@@leviathanlives4847 It's not easy to become sane.

[@EricKay_Scifi]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

The parties symbol of choice is the Star of David.

[@philipmccracken697]

Under similar circumstances most companies would say, "Customers don't like our product, we need to change." Disney says, "Customers don't like our product, they need to change."

[@OneofInfinity.]

People need to realize they are not alone in their "quest" to change our society to something to THEIR liking.

[@Drak976]

@@OneofInfinity. The people who have weird delusions of grandeur like that often don't care about their own families right around them. There was a study that showed what people empathized and for one side of people it was their family and loved ones. The others think about rocks and far away stuff and grand ideas. I'll leave it to you who is who.

[@michaelolmos8257]

“Lacking its own ingenuity, the parasite fears the visionary. What it cannot plagiarize, it seeks to censor. What it cannot regulate, it seeks to ban.” -ANDREW RYAN

[@rmt74358]

this just makes us, encourages us to make the changes we needed to years ago. Stop watching new movies from companies we know we're or could be a problem.

[@luizeduardogomesribeiropen324]

@@Drak976 Basically, blaming things for money and anger their stuff isn't seen as good.

[@CopiousDoinksLLC]

The best part about these stories is that Disney, Marvel etc. are basically admitting that they're losing influence to alternative media. If a KZbinr can shut your movie down by simply poo-pooing it on their channel, it means your movie probably wasn't in the public eye that much anyway.

[@timparks9833]

If the audience tends to agree with these critics, why not just make movies these critics would like?

[@a.nonimus6705]

Because doing so would mean they have to stop prioritizing identity politics and start prioritizing good storytelling. I'm not sure why identity politics have become such a huge priority for media companies, but they've become so stuck on it that they appear to be willing to destroy themselves in order to continue propagating it

[@mrgreyman3358]

I have no idea what is coming out, unless I get it from critics who I trust. The Critical Drinker being one of the critics I trust.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

Why? He's pandering without ANY ability to actually critique the films he rambles on about. There's a reason his content ALWAYS leads toward "the message," because it's all he's good for. He caters specifically to middle-aged men wearing rose-tinted glasses and pining over "the good old days."

[@0giwan]

Hey everyone! I found the Hollywood shill!

[@somniacpine4402]

​@@interdimensionalsteve8172 I don't always agree with his opinion, but I definitely trust his opinion because he is a writer who published well-received books (so, I heard). Therefore, I do think he has a say on what's good writing or not.

[@KS-sn7pe]

@@interdimensionalsteve8172 He still has more integrity than most Hollywood critics who are on Disney's bribe list.

[@nolabets3130]

​@@interdimensionalsteve8172 Thanks shill now go take your meds and update your pronouns for today on your bio 🙏

[@nasis18]

Critical Dinker and Nerdroctic aren't to blame for dismal ticket sales. Making shitty movies that no one wants to see is to blame.

[@c0d3warrior]

If it wasn't for trustworthy critics like Critical Drinker or Nerdrotic, I wouldn't go to the movies at all. Just because of them I went twice last year at all. Shutting them down will return that number right back to zero.

[@dlewis9760]

@@c0d3warrior Both want better results. CD just really wants that. Gary also wants it all burnt to the ground first with the earth around the studios salted so nothing grows for 1000 years. He's bitter and rightly so with the demise of the comic book industry. They destroyed their industry which destroyed his business. Then add the bonus that his business was in San Fransico. Even back then the place was devolving into a hellscape.

[@nasis18]

@@c0d3warrior I've been to movie once in the last 5 years. Twice over the last 8 years. It just isn't worth going anymore.

[@jameslazaridis4180]

⁠@@dlewis9760Ha!

[@Jp-eg7th]

"The customer is always right in matters of taste." Give them what *they* want not what *you* want. Hollywood has completely ignored this for the last 10 years and has burned billions of dollars as a result.

[@SabrinaTheSub]

It's been a thing with entertainment in general. Not just Hollywood. Gaming had it too where around 2008 as older millennials started seeking jobs within entertainment and journalistic industries as a means of getting their worldview out there for others to digest. By 2012 they were turning games into mild political soapboxes with what they could get away with. A lot of people really don't give GamerGate the credit it deserves, and when they managed to con the public into some farce that it was solely about "Men gamers hated women gamers for wanting to feel included" when in reality, the origins of GamerGate happened because Zoe Quinn was getting very favorable reviews on a lukewarm indie game by journalists she was known to pal around with, and in some cases sleep with. It was an ethics complaint from gamers over whether we could trust our journalists who were clearly being paid off by companies to say games like Dragon Age 2 were the second coming when they were a steaming pile of shit but the company wrote a check with an extra 0 that day. Now in 2024 they don't make any effort to hide it. A far cry from back 6 years ago when Blizzard was trying to come up with 50 different excuses why in Battle For Azeroth, all of the main characters driving the story were females and any males were relegated to submissive cuck status. Now they openly tell their users if they don't like the wokeness to quit the game and berate them before privating their own account when they realize more people are against their shit than they think. It's been going on in Hollywood for far longer, but it's the same fucking thing. Except movies affect more people than games, so it took a lot longer for the veil to be pulled.

[@frankhaunter4291]

Totality starts in the very moment when people are not allowed to have an opinion.

[@choojooo8531]

Did hollywood sue Siskel and Ebert when they gave horrible reviews? Critical Drinker is just a modern critic who instead of writing in a prestigious newspaper, presents his reviews on accessible platforms.

[@Attmay]

I wish we could sue the studios for pushing racist, stealth homophobic, openly misandrist cringe trash, and calling that art.

[@thepaqman]

EXACTLY what I came here to write!

[@markkenny2001]

Did The UK sue Peter Bradshaw and Mark Kermode for their negative reviews on films? I don't think so.

[@nicholausrodriguez4720]

Me too

[@gregpeacock5497]

Siskel and Ebert were from a time when hollywood was interested in making money and entertaining moviegoers. Also, journalists were actually that, journalists and hollywood actually cared about what critics had to say. Now all they care about is "THE MESSAGE" (as Drinker would say) and mainstram critics are so scared to go against "THE MESSAGE"

[@Johnnyboy000]

The critical drinker is the reason why I saw godzilla minus one. Maybe, just an idea, if they made movies he liked, people would go watch their movies.

[@Tony-dx3eo]

@Johnnyboy000 Great movie!

[@otbaht]

youtubers and the like are the modern version of Siskel and Ebert. only difference is there a lot more of them now and they talk about more aspects of it as they aren't restrained by time restrictions.

[@protorhinocerator142]

Silly me, but if I was making a movie I'd get with people like Critical Drinker, How It Should Have Ended, Honest Trailers, Pitch Meeting, etc. and hammer out any obvious stupid in the movie before I even make it. Minor flaws here and there can be overlooked but major plot holes are unacceptable.

[@barackobama9343]

BEST Godzilla movie EVER... I wouldn't have even known about it if it wasn't for THE DRINKER!

[@firenze6478]

Goji center and dangerville convinced me.

[@paulinegeorge289]

Every person, regime, organisation and company deserves review, criticism, advice and praise when justified.

[@arminxvs3372]

Imagine sueing people for speaking the truth. Orwell sends his greetings. 😮

[@veronicab15]

This is WHY freedom of speech under any circumstances needs to be protected at all cost.

[@SansAziza]

It is.... KZbin is not a country, and they do not have to abide.

[@BigBootyDuty]

@@SansAziza So where do we draw the line?

[@eyerony3554]

@@BigBootyDuty What do you mean? Freedom of speech/press isn't freedom to say whatever you want. It's freedom to not fear government reprisal. The line is clearly drawn.

[@BigBootyDuty]

@@eyerony3554 It actually is the freedom to say whatever you want, that's literally what "Freedom of Speech" is.

[@SansAziza]

​​@@BigBootyDutyWe shall all have different lines. (Nobody knows.) This is the new "appropriate drinking age" debate.

[@KabukeeJo]

Hollyweird is really mad that fans are listening to KZbin critics and not their paid off critics, so they are lashing out!

[@thePsiMatrix]

It's funny how there was a joke in Family Guy years ago about 'How does Kevin Costner keep finding work?' and now it would be 'How is Hollywood still finding money for this?'

[@chpsilva]

It's telling when you get more entertainment from a Critical Drinker's review than watching the movie itself.

[@nimblehuman]

This has been the case since I watched my first Critical Drinker review, of the new "Predator" in which he introduced the epic term "Apple Genius". So much better than the garbage he was riffing on!

[@uanime1]

If a KZbinr can convince more people not to watch a movie/show than your hundred-million dollar advertising budget can convince them to watch it then the problem is your movie/show, not the KZbinr.

[@MrDunkycraig]

They have no chance of cancelling drinker, it doesnt work like that. They are just pissed their crappy product isnt working

[@Attmay]

They could try making good movies again.

[@toshtao1]

Only KZbin has the power to do that.

[@aikighost]

@@Attmay what are you? some kind of istaphobe?

[@Wraithspartan]

​​@@aikighostYes. Yes, I am (according to the "Hollywood definition) and proud of it.

[@NotTheRealRustyShackleford]

Their tricks worked well in the past when it was 10% messaging 90% content worth watching. Now that the numbers are inverted its unbareable...

[@sirvilhelmofyonderland]

If they want to silence you, you’re doing something right and it’s MORE IMPORTANT than ever. Never stop.

[@clivegreen7139]

Precisely correct.

[@ClavainRS]

I'm not watching this whole video to find out there's actually no proof to silence anyone. Right Wingers always want to play the part of the victim.

[@jakeharrison2000]

You're absolutely right.

[@SILOPshuvambanerjee]

💯

[@rmt74358]

So we just stop watching new movies if they sue. We cannot trust media companies. That simple

[@SabrinaTheSub]

Been happening with gaming and journalism far longer than this. Never forget that KZbin had to tweak its algorithm to effectively lower independent content that built the site in favor of the Mainstream Media news titans who a couple decades prior said the internet was a dumb fad and would never go anywhere. Then made hit piece after hit piece showing the most disturbing or controversial videos they could find and telling parents to not let their kids use the site, as well as suggesting legislation to punish companies for what gets uploaded on their sites if they don't police it correctly. I'm about 95% sure most of the hate mob around Elon buying Twitter can be traced back to some journalist with an ego mad they weren't going to get special treatment anymore and instead had to obey the same rules as everyone else. CNN straight up doxxed a KID, went to his house and then bragged on a broadcast the same day they found the kid and told him they'd "be forced to use his personal details" if he didn't stop posting "Hateful memes"... said meme was some WWE clip where Trump attacks some dude with the CNN logo over his head. Legally to a normal person, that's considered Blackmail and in pretty much all states classified as a felony. Not only did CNN skate on this despite admitting to blackmail on air, people actually praised them for it and thought CNN was fighting tyranny. Oh to fight tyranny by silencing your opposition... I say the same thing when I put on a black mask and beat the shit out of people for the cardinal sin of having a different opinion than my own and telling the world I'm fighting fascism so therefore employing fascist means ACROSS THE FUCKING BOARD doesn't make me a fascist.

[@rogerhalt3991]

Disney being so pedantic that their little corner of the world is being demolished by an increasing number of critical thinkers.. one of the keys to success in life.

[@TheSmuey]

Any media company trying to silence critics derserves to go under, quickly. Period.

[@Jean-jw4hw]

some are not critics but political activist

[@JoyPeace-ej2uv]

@@Jean-jw4hw Still if they are making good movies so what?

[@buddygrimfield7954]

Thats the thing about the major Hollywood players (like Disney) who suck. They never actually go under. Ever. And yes. It is solely on account of their being too big to fail.

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@Jean-jw4hw How convenient for you.

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@JoyPeace-ej2uv Well, if they were to be making good (and I realize that is subjective) movies/stuff, then there would not be an issue.

[@Mangolorian-je3eo]

He has more fans than Hollywood. BELIEVE THAT.

[@Attmay]

Hollywood tried to kill TV, now they own all the networks.

[@SA80TAGE]

unlikely since most movie goers don't give a shit about youtube.... which is just an echo chamber for those with a self-important image of themselves that believe their opinion is important

[@mrsleep0000]

@@SA80TAGE Oh god, it was a joke.

[@michelleisabel]

@@mrsleep0000 the appropriate reply would have been "GO AWAY NOW". 😅

[@kenshinhimura9387]

​@@SA80TAGEyou're insanely ignorant if you don't think most movie Growers also watch KZbin and actually care about what critics say like the critical Drinker because they absolutely do just based on the fact that he gets millions of views for every video he makes

[@ta0paipai]

Hollywood should be thanking critics for free feedback and constructive criticism- follow the critics' suggestions and movies may find audiences again.

[@voorheesjason3161]

Just so we blindly give " them " OUR hard earned cash !?!?! No way is that gonna happen. You'll get nothing.

[@BramStoked-uq4hp]

Better sue Dakota Johnson as she said the movie wasn’t good. I respect her honesty.

[@poppers7317]

but it's not very professional

[@southtexasprepper1837]

@@poppers7317 What would you know about being "professional?"

[@poppers7317]

@@southtexasprepper1837 what would you know?

[@southtexasprepper1837]

@poppers7317 Much more that you obviously do. Especially when it comes about lecturing someone about respecting someone's honesty. When you have "Hollywood Elites" talking about censoring criticism of their movies, then they (Hollywood) has a problem. When people go to the movies, they don't want or care to be lectured to. They want to be entertained. That's why people don't want to hear about "inclusion, equity, and/or equality." Because they're being criticized for the lousy product they're (Hollywood) is putting out, that's why they're going after "Critical Drinker" and other KZbin critics. Hollywood (aka "Hollyweird") can't "see the forest for the trees." Not to mention that Hollywood (namely Disney) is losing money hand over fist by the tune of Tens of Millions, if not Hundreds of Millions of Dollars. That's a Business Model that can't be sustained in the Long Term. People likeKevin Fiege, Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger, and Leslye Headland should be thrown out of Disney. They're literally destroying a once great entertainment company (Disney) and franchises like Star Wars and the MCU.

[@southtexasprepper1837]

@@poppers7317 Much more.

[@brgessner]

the worst thing disney ever did to their brand was let me watch The Last Jedi

[@DarkFox2232]

I feel your pain.

[@Attmay]

Disney jumped the shark in a flying umbrella, whereas Fonzie needed a motorcycle to do it and for *Jaws* to actually come out first.

[@Jonas-lj8ul]

Nah. They f*cked the pooch as soon as they killed Han Solo for no good reason.

[@marvinhills6870]

😅😂😅😂😅😂 me too 😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂

[@vaughn1804]

💯😆🤣🤣☠️

[@isenhart2920]

It's not even like the online critical need to do much. All they need to do is show clips of interviews of the producers, writers, and actors who cannot help but insult the audience at all turns

[@dbsouza1]

The point that Jesse made was spot-on. If the audience did not resonate with those critics their videos would have no effect at all - they would just go unnoticed in the sea of KZbin videos. The fact Hollywood is now going after them just validates what they are saying.

[@BoRaiChoWins]

Do online critics not have a right to free speech?

[@samryan180]

No, they shouldn't less they can maturely understand the right way to review movies and TV shows. They can't be mean or negative like they are.

[@0giwan]

"They can't be mean or negative like they are." Yes, they can. The entire point of free speech is to be able to engage in speech that you disagree with. Why should such horrible evil mean speech be allowed? To allow free conversation as a free society.

[@fathernye1]

​@@samryan180So what... a test for maturity or something in order to post an opinion online... have you ever been on the internet lol?

[@Attmay]

Then you believe people should be censored for criticizing media industrial complex propaganda.

[@synchacker25]

​@samryan180 what about when you want to be mean or negative about something online? Dont act like youve never been, or never will be seen as "mean" or "negative." You sound like you support censorship based on feelings and opinion, so tell me, what happens when they come for you and you believe you've done no wrong? Will you bow your head and lick the boot or will you fight for your rights? Really weird stance to take

[@The_Big_Blue_Bug_of_Justice]

Hollywood’s biggest problem with these guys is that they’re not for sale.

[@jonathanpidock3006]

Everyone has their price. I like the critical drinker but if the big studio’s were to hire people like the critical drinker to fawn over their movies and tv shows and pay them a a 6-7 figure paycheck to say that She Hulk: Attorney At Law is brilliant tv I’m sure even he would admit he’d be more than happy to take it.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

@@jonathanpidock3006 If this happened people would just stop listening to his opinion and he would become like all the other access media hacks. The reason Drinker is popular is because there is value in his opinion. The understands story telling and knows what generally makes a movie good to watch.

[@fr0ck360]

⁠@@jonathanpidock3006Bro. Him selling out is much much worse that’ll affect his reputation, etc.

[@seankyle92]

@@jonathanpidock3006 Even being a sell-out has a price. Integrity & fan-base is not something money can buy. How would it feel like being called the Hypocritical Drinker?

[@jonathanpidock3006]

@@fr0ck360 yeah but making 7 figures means you don’t have to give a shit about what anyone thinks of you. He certainly wouldn’t need this channel or platform anymore. I don’t know how well it would play in the long term

[@Cotictimmy]

Critics right, Hollywood wrong, Modern Movies Rubbish. ‘That’s all I’ve got for you today - Go Away Now.’

[@EricKay_Scifi]

I literally would have never KNOWN about those bombs except for CR and other critics.

[@Trav2355]

Hollywood is so ideologically captured they cannot understand why their movies are not resonating with the general public. They attack everyone other than themselves because they lack the ability of self reflection that is needed to critically evaluate the movies they produce.

[@nimblehuman]

They live in a bubble which no dissenting opinions are allowed to penetrate; any view divergent from their own, they label as "toxic" or "misogynistic". They think everyone else thinks just like them, and then get angry when told otherwise in no uncertain terms, and then revert to their tired old playbook.

[@anonygent]

Critical Drinker is what a movie critic should be, honest.

[@umbrasyl]

Frustrated and an incel?

[@ChaoticYak1]

@@umbrasyl I'm pretty sure he's married.

[@seastar-qw2qg]

​@@umbrasyl troll. How much did hollywood pay u to hate him

[@cookieaddict5956]

​@@umbrasyl Doesn't really work that way bud

[@willisstillhere8846]

He shat on the House of the Dragon trailer and later changed the title of the video after the show got tons of good reviews. Honest isn't what he is tbh And for a movie critic who has a community of critics, his community seems to get triggered when someone criticizes the Critical Thinker. Yet apparently everyone else can't take seperate opinions

[@thulsa_doom]

Imagine owning a restaurant a blaming the customers for not liking your food... that's exactly what Hollywood is doing.

[@fcsuper]

That happens too.

[@meanstavrakas1044]

The fact that their Movie SUX has nothing to do with the fact that it flopped!

[@gregmize01]

If I see the word "toxic" in a statement by a celebrity or giant company or news outlet, that statement is immediately dismissed by me. 😁

[@SansAziza]

You should at least wait to see if they subsequently say "spill" or "waste" or something. 🤔

[@nathanielsmith9400]

Add to that "problematic". Kind of a synonym to "toxic". Whenever I see or hear that I know the source is a snowflake and render everything it said absolute garbage.

[@SansAziza]

​@@nathanielsmith9400 Don't forget "suggestive of" and "controversial" for those media types.

[@taags]

Funny that everything become ”toxic” when these marxists came.

[@dlewis9760]

@@SansAziza I think we need to have a "Conversation" about that. Which is defined as I will talk AT you, you will sit and not say anything.

[@Black_Sun_Dark_Star]

Hollywood needs to grow up and take responsibility for their less-than-substandard products. Correction. The entire USA needs to do that!

[@SystemBD]

*Cof* Boeing. *Cof*

[@SansAziza]

​@@SystemBDIt should be pronounced "boei-oei-oei-oei-oeing" because their engineers are boners.

[@c0d3warrior]

And the entire EU, we're not a Centimeter better on the other side of the ocean.

[@joedoe783]

Joker - Critics' score 68%, Audience score 89% Batwoman - Critics' score 70%, Audience score 12% It's the people at the top of the system that are out of touch.

[@tophat2115]

typical corporate behaviour, take no responsibility for anything negative, privatize profits, externalize costs, blame everybody but those responsible

[@protorhinocerator142]

Imagine a company that sucks so bad that their only workable business model is to sue people who tell everyone how bad they suck.

[@SansAziza]

Apple can do it. No logical reason for Disney not to try.

[@jadenpokemon8952]

The second they try and censor you, is the second you know you’ve made them scared and truly struck a nerve.

[@michaelolmos8257]

“Lacking its own ingenuity, the parasite fears the visionary. What it cannot plagiarize, it seeks to censor. What it cannot regulate, it seeks to ban.” -ANDREW RYAN

[@jadenpokemon8952]

@@michaelolmos8257 dude, I’m so mad I didn’t think of that. Love those games! Great thought to include that quote.

[@marvinmurphy5523]

If an actor has attacked a fan base I won't watch anything they're in, I don't care how interested I might otherwise be or how good of a movie it could potentially be.

[@ManuelLopezAteaga]

One of the main factors of going after the Drinker is his stance on woke politics in Hollywood. He's not afraid to call out The Message in any of his videos.

[@daniel29646]

The M E S S A G EEEEEEEEE

[@nashf5925]

Drinker never sold-out

[@haha-kq6rz]

The next step is NDAs for anyone who actually sees the movie.

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidcox3076]

Don't give them any ideas. Disney's lawyers are already drawing up the documents.

[@insensitive919]

I'm sure they are already working on it.

[@454brianbat]

One of the things that come to mind is this is just another attack on freedom of speech. The studios are looking for anyone to blame for their bad work. They could have hired better to make stories then present them. These actors much of them young do not know any better and most likely had directors that were told not to do their jobs, and some directors were a part of the problem of being activists and not story tellers. I used to be a movie fanatic but now-a-days I can care less. I stopped watching movies in the theaters 20 years ago. I have been to less than a hand full of movies in the theaters since then. It also does not help that seeing a movie in the theater is too expensive. It also does not help that actors and other in that business say and do things that are ignorant and that is even reported by the main stream news, as well as what actors and directors said on social media. The problem is that Hollywood forgot that that in order to made good movies that must tell good stories that make sense. Not throw in politics. Politics is what causes theaters to be empty. Hollywood used to know this. But now-a-days, Hollywood does not seem to care at all. Even before DEI lead movies, they were not doing a good job telling stories of regardless of the type of movie that it was. I hope that these movie reviewers on KZbin that got some type of court letter, will counter sue underneath the whole idea of freedom of speech. That is something that democrats can't handle.

[@dlewis9760]

If the movies were good, you might be able to look past the expensive part. With the price and the content of the movie you end up feeling like a sap.

[@MysteriouslyMilitant]

Why? Why would you do this KZbin? You damaged a bunch of us, and then you came back to damage us some more. What the hell is the matter with you Google?

[@indy_go_blue6048]

I honestly wish I knew what you're talking about. What did they do?

[@eriksteele2810]

When Waterworld became a flop buster no one blamed Siskle and Ebbert.

[@Attmay]

That wasn’t as big a flop as people expected it to be.And then that put pressure on *Titanic* when the future of two studios was riding on that movie’s success.

[@scdoty777]

Good point. Although I liked it.

[@yourfeedYT]

Whats crazy is this is just making independent creators even stronger

[@lescud]

5 more years and this discussion will be over as AI will enable talented filmmakers to do awesome movies on a shoestring budget. Hollywood will collectively fold like blockbuster and it will be a glorious to watch…

[@dadrocha7741]

I used to spend a lot at the theater. Most movies suck now. Movie makers call fans toxic among other things. This sounds like another excuse for more bad movies. I've gone back to paperbacks.

[@DrTWG]

It is never , ever , ever their fault . This is what happens when you put an ideology into the mix . They have an unshakeable belief that they are GOOD and MORAL . They will never stop " the work is never done " . This CS Lewis quote is apt I think _"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"_ .

[@TomErnst-uy4qi]

great quote!!

[@indy_go_blue6048]

Precisely defines the problem with Marxism aka wokeness. It's their religion and they're far more radical and oppressive than any religion on earth.

[@jabezhane]

I just saw all those Marvel writers stating "I was told not to read any of the back history or comics for the character I was writing a $150 million movie for!" and knew it was over. Can you imagine a screenwriter being asked..."So Romeo & Juliet...have you read it? No? Okay well don't but write us a screenplay!" Hmmm well I guess that's coming.

[@armintor2826]

Its like how the writers for the Halo show were fucking bragging about how they never played Halo

[@Falconer22]

Maybe instead of trying to censor ppl who dont agree with them, they should get back to writing decent films. We arent all basement dwellers here; we just refuse to waste our money on bs. How ridiculous they are.

[@trublgrl]

They don't seem to care that the machines are thinking, but they are up in arms that the audience is.

[@nerf_gok]

Is it because they are telling the truth? And the truth hurts?

[@calummacritchie7840]

An inspired Wise Man said; "Have I become your enemy by telling you the Truth?"

[@DigiAkuma]

“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”

[@gianthand8130]

@@calummacritchie7840 Galatians 4:16.

[@PeRoXiDe608]

It’s like an episode of kitchen nightmares but with the movie industry lol! Your movie sucks! No it doesn’t! I’m the best!! (Empty theatres)

[@seagrey75]

Of course, what else can be?

[@gavinbrown7336]

It says a lot for the state of movies when the critic reviews are more entertaining than the content they are discussing

[@bryank427]

yeah its pretty bad now. 7-8 times out of 10, the pitch meeting i watch for a movie now is more entertaining than the movie itself.

[@dlewis9760]

@@bryank427 Pitch meeting shows you the how a slaughterhouse works. A lot of businesses just want you to see the product and not think what went into the product. Movies are a product. Not art for art sake.

[@bryank427]

@dlewis9760 indeed it does, and in a very entertaining way. hopefully we start getting better movies or they are gonna have more flops on their hands

[@saifulazrinfoto9993]

A broken product is not something anyone wants to pay for.

[@matthewburrows4359]

Ann Hathaway the narcissist, should be complaining why she has not had a good coating of wood preserver this year.

[@michaellombardi5831]

THEY WILL LITERALLY DO ANYTHING BUT MAKE MOVIES FANS WANT TO SEE WITHOUT THEIR HEAVY HANDED MESSAGES.

[@sciencecompliance235]

_"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."_ --Joker

[@SansAziza]

​@@sciencecompliance235 "If you're using half your concentration to look normal, then you're only half paying attention to whatever else you're doing." -Magneto

[@craiglortie8483]

just look at how well dune has been!

[@SansAziza]

​@@craiglortie8483 It's funny you should say "has been" for a movie from 1984. Have fun with your reboot.

[@taags]

They have spent billions in making propaganda and so few have bought it. They must be so frustrated.

[@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy]

A studio will blame everything for a failure but their own interference.

[@Attmay]

Except Disney, but only in specific circumstances where they can blame Walt’s son-in-law since he was Michael Eisner’s predecessor.

[@fr0ck360]

Blame everyone but their own skill issue. Brilliant!

[@JO-qn8gy]

DEI in movies will lead to failure in the box office. However DEI in airline industries will lead to planes in the sky having all sorts of problems. Better to travel by road or by sea in the meantime until the Woke Mind Virus burns itself off in the future.

[@mkocel]

if only they just stuck to making better product. How's the old saying go? Winners focus on winning, losers focus on the winners.

[@ArnoModelstate]

Protect "The Message", is all they are thinking off !

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

To be honest, most are done with mainstream entertainment, and critics like Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, Price of Reason and you Jesse Grant exposure of these awful movies and nasty executives also hammer the point. Do not let the Hollywood bullies erase your voices. Keep it up, and thanks.

[@Drak976]

Disparu is a very brave man who throws himself on shows like Willow so I don't have to wonder if they were good or not. Like a soldier laying on the barbed wire so all his viewers can crawl over him through the barbed wire minefield that is content.

[@Scylithen]

If the products are crap what do they want the critics or reviewers to do? Lie to their audiences like the product make does anyway? The ship sailed 10 years ago, game over man, game over 😔

[@mikespearwood3914]

Well...yes they do! They want paid up shills.

[@larryphhihds4415]

Yes. They want people to lie for them. Just like the real media They lie and want to continue to lie to you.

[@ckmoore101]

Thats exactly what they expect, since a majority of reviewers currently do that, carrying the torch for hollywood.

[@mikespearwood3914]

Literally? Yes. A lot of reviewers/critics will be sh ills.

[@anonygent]

That's what they do with mainstream critics. They have to give good reviews or else they will lose free and early access to new movies.

[@syntaxed2]

The question is why isnt capitalistic competition working to bring us better products?

[@pyropulseIXXI]

Imagine the future: “You posted a negative review of a popular media; this caused viewership to plummet by 87%. As such, you were sued for damages to reputation and for lost profits. The courts found you liable and ordered you to pay $300 million, which was the estimated profits lost due to the reduced viewership caused by your negative review video. Since you couldn’t pay this amount up front, your wages, income, and any other sources of revenue were garnished by 75%.”

[@FredericoASousa]

Imagine trying to sue critics and then wondering why your company has a bad rep online, leading to more backlash.

[@aidanwow1593]

I mean, they basically made a Doomcock knock-off as the villain of She-Hulk.

[@Drak976]

The lady also brags that everything in that show was written a year or 2 ahead of time so she must have been one of his OG fans.

[@ge2719]

they also didn't really do anything with it either. they just show a mask and tell the audience "thats the bad guy". I'd say its like a child wrote the show, but most children aren't that low iq

[@Casedilla73]

The people who are critics are the people who want to like your movies the most, and if a critic talks about how good your movie is, it’s free publicity

[@bigkraus1]

Since they’re attacking KZbin movie critics that just strengthen the case that the KZbin movie critics were right

[@rrmackay]

If they succeed in banning critics I will absolutely never buy another product from them. Want to destroy your movie studio, prevent independent critics from speaking !

[@monkeydad9714]

Hollywood is highlighting the one way democracy "agree with us or be cancelled...". I love those independent critics which are now the only left entertainment.

[@thedarkknight1971]

ALSO... 'Young Rippa' (a BLACK film critic that these idiots are NOTICEABLY NOT going after 😏) HAS created 'The Rippaverse' selling A CRAP TONNE of brand new comics of POC superheroes.... DONE RIGHT! 👍😎🇬🇧

[@MarvelStudiosFan]

If they don't want movie fans critiquing their 'work'. Time to make good movies again, Hollywood. It is that simple. 🤣😆🍻

[@neanderthal-]

When KZbinrs like The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic, seemingly can ruin the success of any movie or tv show according to the production companies, it just shows to me, how fickle there products are, and how egotistical the people in the entertainment industry are, that they would rather burn down the world, then admit they failed.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

So if they don't want critics. They will stop with the woke bs right? Oh no. Ok then. They can suck it. We will keep talking then. Period.

[@c0d3warrior]

They don't even realise that 90% of people aren't even on social media and still are mostly influenced by word-of-mouth. And that the majority of people never embraced their ideology in the first place. So not only do they not have the reach they think, they also are unable to see the limited effectivenesss of their propaganda because social media (and its tons of bots) seem like to be in favor of them. They're caught in their own thought prison while everyone just abandoned ship a long time ago. To me, they're nothing more than a weird current-day version of the Truman Show 🍿😆

[@Stinger05]

I really really hate the deflection of "it's not bad, you're just racist" it's ruining movies cause they can get away with putting in no effort with no repercussions

[@clementdedadelsen4065]

When movie production companies start to sue the critics... it might be because they are producing shit.

[@Thomas-fb5tf]

Can I sue the Charlie's Angels reboot and blame them for depicting men as weak, brain-dead, and evil? That's the reason I couldn't get a date for 2 years, I suspect. That makes about as much sense as suing a movie critic over....critiquing a movie.

[@Jonas-lj8ul]

So instead of attacking the audience... they're gonna attack the people the audience trusts and respects enough to sort of name as our representatives. THAT'S NOT SMARTER, PEOPLE!!!!

[@Jadefox32]

well they got Rotten Tomatoes to comply, but they can't get individual CCs to comply so they put the screws to them so they can continue to plug the message.

[@Drak976]

@@Jadefox32 Well Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner Brothers/NBC Universal. That's their purpose at least for those companies.

[@Jadefox32]

@Drak976 I'm saying it wasn't before I think 2016 or 17

[@jarerarebear1765]

The line between Critics and Fans has been so blurred into oblivion, that attacking one amounts to attacking the other.

[@MatthewSmith-fy5hk]

Critics criticizing critics. We have reached critical mass.

[@theb3654]

If they ban Drinker and Nerdrotic I just wont watch anything like I was before I discovered them.

[@c0d3warrior]

Same here. The fact that guys like them _can't_ be bought brings my butt in the cinema seat; silencing them will make me stay at home. Also I try to convince friends to go with me to watch a movie, so we're talking about more than just one ticket sale per trip. Your choice Hollywood: _The_ _message_ or ticket sales, choose one.