HoloAudio Cyan 2 non oversampling ladder converter

[@michaelmityok1001]

We are living in a hifi time when one can build a superb system for under $5K USD. When you include the DIY world, the price of excellence is even lower. I am 61, and there has never been a better time to be in the hifi hobby than now. Yes, there is an ongoing explosion of uber expensive gear, much to the chagrin of my better half, but there has been an even bigger explosion of high-quality budget gear.

[@geoffreydebrito7934]

I'm 75 and I entirely agree

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏻

[@thehighend4545]

Very well said, 1000% agree

[@Villaboy78]

Most Sensible comment I’ve read in audio for YEARS 🤩🤩🤩

[@TriAmpMyFi]

Yup, same here & it's very true. Loving building my new chain these days!.

[@Audioloon]

Thank you Mr. Beekhuyzen. You are the most competent, interesting, and best audio educator on YT. I enjoy every one of your video's and they leave me feeling like I just exited another master class.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Wow, thank you

[@alphaniner3770]

Thanks Hans. This DAC, when it was released a few months ago, appeared to be a solid DAC for a very reasonable price. Unfortunately very few reviews were published in the public domain, which could be a concern (because many reviewers - quite understandably actually - prefer not to talk about products that they aren't very enthousiastic about). Glad you filled the gap, and confirmed the idea that it is a solid DAC - certainly on my list to check out.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I would certainly do that.

[@pampam12able]

most reviewers only talk about what they are paid to talk about, so this really is a great review coming from a person that is trustworthy

[@MikeLindup42]

Great review, Hans, you kept us waiting for the “drop”! My cousin has a May Kitsune in his high end system which sounds wonderful, so good to know how highly you rated this no frills/no compromise version. Added to wishlist. Hope all is well with you 🙏🏽

[@MikeLindup42]

PS I keep meaning to say how much I love the theme music you use on your channel - it’s so comforting.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

🙏🏻

[@rcavor74]

Vau, what a great DAC. Just received, straight out a box with Wiim Pro Plus as a source and little Fosis ZA3 in mono config this plays incredible. Everything is clear, bass has punch, no harshness at all, black background, plenty of power. Thank you Hans for the great review! p.s. After burnin period it goes into tube amp config and its time for streamer upgrade.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

😄Enjoy the music

[@randyhelou5412]

Thank you for yet another great review Hans.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼🙏

[@mikeh2520]

I've been using an Audio Note non-oversampling DAC for many years. I bought mine as a kit and built it. I am totally convinced in the entire concept of non-oversampling.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Enjoy the music

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

I recently got the Audio-GD R1-NOS and I am completely happy and content. I definitely would have gotten this Cyan 2 but I got a terrific price. This is the perfect video for anyone looking to get this unit or simply curious. You will not get a more analytic and beautiful presentation anywhere; very easy to understand. Well done.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

At least not for this money. Thanks for sharing.

[@carlosubilla2970]

Have you tried the R1 with regular Redbook audio? How does it sound with regular audio CDs?

[@lisar3944]

@@carlosubilla2970 I would like to know how *either* of these sound with cd as source. It amazes me how rarely this is tested/reported.

[@1Hiprascal]

@@lisar3944 Man, I hear you. I use a CD Transport with digital coaxial output and have ordered this DAC. Assembly is done to order. Mine should arrive in about 4 more weeks. I would be happy to share my impressions. Check back to this video for my "comments" entry. Hopefully I may be helpful to others.

[@fernandocoutinho6661]

Another great video! thank you! I had the Holo Audio Spring 2 Level 2 for a while….with the Magna Mano Ultra mk3 and audio note cdt ii/2 as sources. It sounded very nice but for some reason I felt the sound was somehow boring. I ve traded it for the Merason Ferrot with matching power supply unit after your review. It has given me hours and hours of enjoyment. Really love it. Sound is really subjective and once we reach a level of high quality personal tastes matter :-)

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Thanks for sharing!

[@violin-schwerin]

have it, and absolutely love it. having to do absolutely nothing except switching it on is the cherry on top

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼

[@toai2]

Would you recommend pairing it to a receiver like the Onkyo AVR?

[@PhotographyInFlight4183]

Switch it on and leave it on.

[@colanitower]

Simplicity & high quality & value for money. I like that a lot

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Me too

[@robbie00001]

I bought the Cyan 2 about a month ago to use with the DMP A6 streamer and I am blown away!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼

[@Retro_Analog]

Hans U R DA MAN‼️ Thanks for a great review‼️ This sounds like a better choice over the Denafrips Pontus II

[@jeremiahchamberlin4499]

Fascinating bit of kit. I listened with interest. I’m getting ready to upgrade my digital front end, or at least think about it. I don’t mind losing a display, but I’m not sure about switching off, or disconnecting, all other sources but the one to which I want to listen to at the moment. As other reviewers have pointed out, some sources (like televisions and streaming network bridges) stay ‘on’ all the time. One must consider setup options/limitations carefully. Enjoyed the review. Thanks.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Enjoy

[@shanestephenson8423]

Great video, Hans. I had the Holo Audio May KTA for some time in my system, and I still think it's one of the best Dacs made by anybody for its price. I could clearly tell by your facial expressions you were very impressed with this Dac. Once again great video keep it up.🙂🎧👍

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼

[@brochg]

Thank you, Hans! I appreciate all of your excellent reviews!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

My pleasure!

[@sjqideez6626]

Great to hear, thank you for this Hans. Much appreciated

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

My pleasure!

[@sjoerdhoogeland9149]

Dank je voor je informatieve videos. I own a Mytek Brooklyn and last summer I had the privelege to get a demo at Magna Hifi of the Magna Mano iii and Holo Spring 3 Level. I love the Spring, but I bought the Mano iii because that gave the biggest improvement for the money. I planned to buy a Ferrum Hypsos for the Mytek this year, but your review of the Cyan 2 makes me reconsider my plan. My guess is that the Cyan 2 has better tone/timbre than the Mytek. But what about detail retrieval and dynamics (because that's what I like about the Mytek)? Is the Mano iii + Cyan 2 as detailed and dynamic as the Mano iii + Mytek + Hypsos?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I replaced the Brooklyn/ Hypsos combo with the Cyan 2.

[@11RESERVERED]

So glad there is another review for this DAC! Am considering it, but wondering how you feel of this vs the Holo Audio Spring? Thanks!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I could not do a direct comparison so I can't say for sure. When I reviewed the Holo May, my reference setup was different.

[@markpeters284]

Another great review Hans, have you tried the Holo Audio Red? I wondered how it compares to the Magna Mano.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

No, haven’t. I did review the Denafrips Arce.

[@markpeters284]

Thanks for the very quick reply. I will look up the Arce review.

[@TheGlotz69]

Wow! Hans, you are my new favorite channel! Excellent info- super deep. PS - I love the Cyan 2 DAC! 2 months and no complaints.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼

[@subrakolimali9952]

Ordered my DAC after this review. Thanks Hans

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Enjoy the music!

[@OM642996]

Pre-ordered as NOS-DAC concept approach test. Really curious, if it can compete with the advanced praise in my chain (Rose RS150, McI MA12000, Monitor Audio PL500II)

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Please report back...

[@colindoyle9876]

Thanks for all your videos. Think I will get this one as per your advice. I always wonder seems all to well trade-offs: sibilance, digital glare ,listening fatigue and lack of bass/lower clarity - Most seem to be immune to it.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏻

[@trevorbartram5473]

Does the near perfect impulse response shown imply there is no analog output filter? If so, what about output ultrasonics & their effect on amplifiers etc? What's the chance of a Cyan 3 with fancy inputs & outputs removed to reduce cost?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

That’s a question for HoloAudio.

[@HansHinnekint]

Another great video. Would you be testing the Holo Red digitale transport as well?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Perhaps (no promise)

[@RyanChoo]

I could not get a definite answer as to whether using Holo Red as DDC and IIS output into Cyan 2 would better the sound experience than using the USB from my Mac Mini M2 & Android tablet. In your opinion, is this a good idea (with the option of using Red in future for streaming) to invest in a DDC like the Holo Red?

[@radkokosoTT]

Great review! I like the minimalist approach to overall design. It looks like a very good price-quality ratio DAC.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It really is! I bought it ….

[@radkokosoTT]

I assume that Cyan 2 will have permanent place in your setup 2a, thus replacing Denafrips Ares.

[@giulianof8687]

Hi Hans, is it good with sorces like bluesound (24/192 material)?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Sure.

[@explet1ve]

Thank you for the very detailed review on this DAC, seems like a very interesting option. Do you think it would be an upgrade to the internal DAC of my Eversolo A8? (assuming the rest of my components are up to the task). I would connect the A8 to the Cyan via IIS.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Absolutely!

[@OSQQ123]

Thank you so much for this great review. I curently have a Denafrips Pontus II. Do you think this DAC could be an upgrade?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I could not do a direct comparison so I can't say for sure. When I reviewed the Holo May, my reference setup was different.

[@ronenlazar5424]

Thank you for the review, sir! As one who reviewed the Denafrips Ares 12th, which one do you prefer? Thanks again!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I could not do a direct comparison so I can't say for sure. When I reviewed the Holo May, my reference setup was different.

[@robvandendolder3157]

Thanks again Hans. Hopefully I can check this one out down here in Australia. It looks like the usual high quality Holo Audio product. How do you think it compares with its higher priced sibling the Spring 3 Cheers.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I have not reviewed the Spring 3 so I can't say.

[@VintageStereoCollectorChannel]

Thanks!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Thanks for your support

[@VintageStereoCollectorChannel]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel - I thank you because your honesty and guidance gave me the knowledge I needed to buy a Mytek Brooklyn DAC+, S-Booster linear power supply, Bluesound Node and last but not least, a Holo Cyan 2. Thank you Hans! No need to reply!

[@ΠαναγιώτηςΠαναγιώτου-μ1ψ]

Hi Hans and thanks for the detailed presentation I 'd like to know which one is your preference between this Holo and the Denafrips Ares 12th-1 Thanks in advance

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

My personal preference is the HoloAudio. I bought it. But you might think different. Seed my reviews.

[@mjlgamorcito]

Hi Hans! Thanks for your channel and useful information. Happy to report that your review on Holo Audio Cyan 2 convince me to buy it. I had been curious to it, but you gave me the last impulse I need it. Just got it today, first impression is pretty impressive. Running it along with the following set up Wiim Ultra streamer (streamer only via USB) Holo Audio Cyan 2 dac New Musical Fidelity A1 25 watts class A amplifier KLH Model 5 Speakers A pair of Rels 7tx subwoofer via high level input Combo sounds great thanks to the addition of the Holo Audio cyan 2! 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for the review... I'm starting to enjoy it!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Great to hear. Consider upgrading the streamer.

[@mjlgamorcito]

​@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel after hearing the difference the Cyan 2 made, I'm thinking on upgrading to the Holo Red Streamer. Have you heard the Red? Is it a good streamer option? Or is there something more appropriate for similar price range? Appreciate your comments. Thanks

[@LuckyX2]

Great review, thanks. I suggest listening to it using HQPlayer oversampling and see how it changes :)

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don't use HQ player.

[@joemalone7385]

Thank you Hans. I was contemplating this DAC and your excellent commentary has helped me settle on that decision.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

🙏👍🏼

[@peterowen6563]

Great review as usual. Any old 4k HDMI or do you have a preference?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don't

[@leeandrewclarke]

Looks like an old Trichord Research DAC, another device which eschewed bells-and-whistles to deliver superior sound.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It doesn’t sound old though

[@VintageStereoCollectorChannel]

Thank you Hans! I ordered one two days from KitsuneHiFi. Hope to receive it 4-6 weeks.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

👍🏼

[@calwest2207]

did you get the cyan 2 yet. i would like to know your user/listening experience, i have a cyan 2 ordered and am in the initial waiting period.

[@VintageStereoCollectorChannel]

@@calwest2207 - yes, I’ve had it for about a month now. I use it with a Bluesound Node streamer via a USB cable and with an Audiolab 6000cdt CD transport connected via a glass fiber Toslink cable. The Cyan 2 defaults to USB so in order to use the CD transport I connected the Bluesound Node to a separate power strip so I can turn it off. Then the Cyan 2 picks us the optical Toslink cable. Love the sound from the Cyan 2!

[@calwest2207]

@@VintageStereoCollectorChannel thank you for your comments, smart use of power strip for turnoff. I ordered cyan 2 and am in early waiting phase. Currently have gungnir mb, naim integrated, dynaudio special 40s, klipsch heresy 3 and want new sac sound.

[@VintageStereoCollectorChannel]

@@calwest2207 - you have nice gear! Always wanted some Forte IVs but no room.

[@siegfried898]

Thank you Hans for this review! You have the Chord Dave too, right? I guess this Holo Dac should be a class below the chord regarding the price difference. How would you compare the sound of these two Dacs? Thanks!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

How come people think you can compare a € 1,400 DAC against a €13,000 DAC and make sense. Can you compare a Honda Civic against a BMW 7 series? The Cyan 2 is a very, very good DAC for the money but where resolution, refinement, stereo image and so on are concerned it's nowhere near a DAVE.

[@siegfried898]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel : Thanks, Hans for your reply! Such questions give a feeling how much difference is between the two dacs. Could you also describe the difference between Cyan 2 an Terminator plus? Thank you!

[@IHearEverythingDude]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel money in audio doesn't mean sound quality. Hence there is nothing against comparing those two. Hope it will help with your bias

[@ericstefko4852]

Han great review. How close is this unit to the sound of the Holo May?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I could not do a direct comparison so I can't say for sure. When I reviewed the Holo May, my reference setup was different.

[@TheVeganVicar]

Thank you, Mr. Beekhuyzen! P.S. What is your opinion of the iFi Phantom. Mine arrived just this afternoon and I was BITTERLY disappointed by the build quality (it's made in China).

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I have not reviewed the iFi Phantom so I can’t say

[@deepvillage]

Hans Thanks for your review, I have this DAC , when I inserted into my system ..first impressions…very good until music w the right side of the keyboard hit …seemed too bright…uncomfortably so I emailed Kitsune asking about burn in time , explaining my experience…500 hours minimum I was told , since then I leave on 24/7 now around 250 hours…it “seems “ to be settling down but sometimes those high notes , piano , piccolo…erghh I really love this piece up to the above notes hit What was your experience with the Cyan2 in this , did you do a burn cycle before testing? Thanks Bernard

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

The Cyan, as most very good sounding DAC's do indeed take a lot of burning in. I don't recall how long the Cyan took but any DAC I review is at least burn in for 200 hours. 'Dificult ones' easily double that. Anyway, the Cyan 2, when urn in, will not sound too bright on a piano right hand. So if it persists, there must be something else wrong, like the streamer.

[@deepvillage]

@ I have the Volumio Rivo Hans , it may be in my active spkr setup Linkwitz LX minis w DSP …however I’m keeping the Cyan going 24/7 the harshness I heard at first is disappearing or I’m getting used to this detail rich DAC , liking it now

[@Infynyte]

Nice review, thank you! What happens when the Cyan 2 not receive any signal during few minutes? Go to stand by mode automatically too like the same way that change the input source? Cheers!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Correct

[@stevemd8947]

Another well thought out great review. I do get confused with your system's 1A and 1B --- Is 1B your top system? Thank you.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

That is correct. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6XIc5eteM2ja8k for more on my reference setups. You find this link in the description of every video. I make. Just clock more....

[@christian.g77]

Very nice review Hans! Thanks. As a happy owner of an Hegel h160 + Totem forest speakers, I'm wondering if adding this dac would bring significant benefits, or if I should upgrade the amp or speakers first. Thanks!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don't know the Hegel since Hegel don't want me to review their equipment. But I think you will be pleasantly surprised by this DAC. I bought one immediately.

[@benyHiFi]

I have been wanting for this review. Thanks. I wish you compared it to Denefrips Pontus II. I am deciding on which one to go for. Any advice?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Yes, watch and compare my two reviews.

[@johnami]

Hello Hans, Always interesting to listen to your presentation and comments about Hifi equipment, although I must admit it is a bit of a jungle to me since I don't change my equipment often. Anyway if I may, can I ask if obtaining this DAC will change much in my situation where I own a NAD C 658 streaming DAC connected to an Exposure 3010S2D amp....? Thank you. John Alsace France

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It would for me. Whether it will for you I can't say.

[@johnami]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Ok, Thanks for your comment. I will have to try and hear.....

[@mcgjohn22]

nice review of the Cyan. Thank you for posting the vid.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

My pleasure!

[@SebaBukowski]

Question I have not found answer about …. This DAC has or not oversampling mode and capabilities like more expensive brothers from that brand?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It has no oversampling

[@Nefty_]

Hello Hans, since two weeks I have my new Cyan 2 and I’m very happy with it. Coming from the bluesound node 2i my system is of a new level now. I was wondering one thing for USB usage, in the May and the Spring we can clearly see quality clocks from Crystek. In the Cyan 2 I never managed to see any of them or similar, on photos on internet. Would you have seen something inside yours? What clocks are used inside the Cyan 2 for for clocking incoming USB signals? Thank you very much

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don't know and I don't care. It sounds great so they must have good clock practice and a good clock oscillator. Don't make conclusions based on components. The way they are used is far more important.

[@Nefty_]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you.

[@kostass3124]

Thank you for the review. I have my eye on this the past month. I really wonder how better this performs compared to the Qutest with LPS so I stop using the internal dac of my Hegel H190 ...

[@wesselkampen2644]

I can answer that: got the Hegel h190 connected to this dac and it's clearly a step up. Sold my denafrips Ares 12

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I agree.

[@kostass3124]

@@wesselkampen2644 i thank you. I really appreciate the input

[@kostass3124]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you. Keep up the great work work !

[@robbie00001]

I am using the Cyan 2 with my h190 and DMP-A6 as the streamer and its epic!

[@AAKozyrenko]

I have a few questions about this unit, as I am currently in the market for a new DAC. 1) How does this unit perform input switching? 2) Does it automatically detect the input with an active signal and switch to it? 3) What if multiple inputs are sending an active signal, does the unit switch to the one that most recently became active, or remain on the last active one until its signal stops? 4) Or do I have to physically disconnect and reconnect the input I wish to switch to? 5) Additionally, would it be beneficial to modify this unit by replacing the Coax RCA with a 75 ohm BNC to facilitate digital over a BNC-to-BNC cable from the source? Thank you.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Did you watch the video? I give answers there. It switches to the input that sees a digital signal coming in. Priority is USB, I²S, AES3. You just switch of the sources that are not used. If you buy a good SPDIF cable from a known manufacturer, RCA might be better than when you modify to BNC.

[@AAKozyrenko]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel My apologies sir, I did watch your video on friday, then briefly skipped through today to double-check that I wasn't asking redundant or answered questions, and must've overshot the section where you explain the input switching. Thank you for your advice.

[@connorduke4619]

Hi Hans, does the "imperfect" linearity in R2R dacs result in the typically reduced bass slam compared to chip-based dacs in the same price class. Also, what is the most affordable chip based dac that perfoms very well in both linearity and the time domain in your experience?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Don't loose your sleep over the linearity, time integrity is far more important. Did you watch the conclusions in the video??

[@connorduke4619]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI certainly did, but I have some perfectionist traits and want it all. I also read some user forum comments lately that they prefer the bass slam of good chip Dacs versus many/most R2R dacs. This also came up on A-B dac demo's posted by the hifi reviewer Tharbamar.

[@sunnykfc]

can turn off the up-sampling?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

There is no upsampling

[@AAKozyrenko]

While looking at other R2R DACs in a similar price range as the Cyan 2, I saw that some of them have a feature simply called "Phase." In their literature, they describe it as a control that helps to actively reconfigure the I2S interface on the DAC to be compatible with unstandardized line order implementation of the I2S interface on the streaming device pinout. Is this feature critical, or redundant?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Phase is usually a switch that reverses the polarity of the music. This is identical to reversing the polarity on both your speakers. Reconfiguring the I²S pinout is another. It makes non the standard I²S HDMI of RJ45 connection work with equipment with a different pinout. As long as there is sound coming from the DAC, this is redundant.

[@nymarty]

Very good review! Thank you. Do you know if you can use both RCA and XLR outputs at the same time? This is something you can’t do with Denafrips so I’m looking for a dual output DAC.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I looked at the circuit board and as far as I can see the RCA outputs are buffered from the XLR ones so it seems that you can use them both simultaniously.

[@policrates]

Very interesting! How would it sound paired with the Holo Audio Red streamer?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I have not reviewed the Rad so I can't say.

[@keithjohnson2863]

Would this DAC benifit from a DDC converting USB input to I2S? I use a DAP as my source, the USB output is converted to I2S by the inexpensive Douk Audio U2 PRO XMOS XU208 Digital Interface. The I2S signal is fed to my DAC. This seems to enhance the tone and timbre of my sound. The caveat is that I had to open the I2S config on my DAC to swap the left and right channels to conform to signal from the DDC.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don't have any experience with the Doug Audio, so I can't say.

[@keithjohnson2863]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel How about in general circumstances, do you think using a DDC to convert a USB signal to I2S as input to the Cyan 2 would have a positive effect on the sound output?

[@Gregdsilva915]

Amazing breakdown as always I expect the highest quality from this channel. I hope you can do a review on topping DX9 pro anniversary edition its is quite impressive but would love your perspective on it. I think the ladder Bach pre amp would compliment this dac

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I'll see

[@Gregdsilva915]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks Hans much appreciated

[@WallaceChen]

How do I switch from 230v to 115v? Are there any other settings required besides the switch? Thank you

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Just flipping the switch suffice.

[@WallaceChen]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Do I need to replace the fuse? Based on label on bottom of chassis - 220-230V 50/60Hz - Fuse spec.: 2A SB 5x20mm / 110-115V 50/60Hz - Fuse spec.: 4A SB 5x20mm"

[@nodyaheads5111]

Excellent Review Hans. Would the sound quality be good with digital data coming from a coaxial streamer Vs I2S Magna Mano MK3? Thanks

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

That depends on the quality of that streamer.

[@nodyaheads5111]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Okay. Would a Wiim Pro do it justice?

[@nodyaheads5111]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hans, I note that you have already covered my question, in detail, in your episode 'The digital output of WiiM streamers' back in March. Thanks again

[@2023C8HTC]

EXCELLENT REVIEW!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Thank you kindly!

[@jakobolsson586]

How would you say this compares to the denafrips lineup in similar price range since both are r2r?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I have bought the Holo Audio

[@Laland17]

Excellent review, thank you Hans. Was the unit well burned in by the time you got it? I see Holo recommends c150 hours. I got mine a week ago and compared to my RME AD2 FS the Cyan 2 is sounding harsh across the frequencies. I’m assuming it will settle with use given how well liked it is proving with many folks - hope so! Still, looks good 😊

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I always burn in equipment I review, even when they are not new, I have them playing for 24/7 for several days.

[@Laland17]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks, appreciate the response and will follow that approach.

[@Rob-Davidson]

@@Laland17 how did it go? I'm sensitive to treble harshness.

[@klausfreis7202]

Hans, with your expertise ar'nt you tempted to bypass those TI 1612 opamps and use something else like tubes or a discrete circuit?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

No

[@carlosubilla2970]

Hello Hans. Did you test Cyan 2 with regular CD audio from transport or file? How was the result?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Most of my music is 44.1 kHz, 16 bit. so, indeed, I did. Unless you mean having a cd-player digitally connected for I don't own a cd-player anymore.

[@josvanoorschot2958]

In the market for a DAC like this but have no I^S or usb connection at the moment. Wish to connect a cd transport. The other option is the Merason Frerrot. Would like to compare these two for SQ. But you say to address this in future, I.e. SQ via SPDiF, looking forward. Thanks for you excellent reviews!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Why not use SPDIF. Ik the cd player isn’t top bad, you’ll be surprised

[@AT-wl9yq]

I agree. You should have no problem getting good sound using a 75 ohm SP/DIF connection. Some of the best DAC/Transport combo's ever made use it. However, I can think of 1 option, but its a long shot. Audio Alchemy used to make a CD transport that had an I2S output. If you can find one. The only problem is that its DIN, not HDMI. I assume that you should be able to get an adaptor. If you contact PS Audio or The Cable Company in the US, they could definitely tell you what type of adaptors are available. I believe the EAD T1000 also has a DIN I2S as well, but I know for a fact the AA definitely has it. The upside is that both of the units I just mentioned use the Pioneer stable platter transports. If you've never seen one, the build quality is just unbelievable. If you are going to buy a vintage CD player/Transport, that's the one to get. I also believe that some current production DACs have an AT&T ST type fiber optic connection. Both of the transports I mention above have that option, as well. Its much better than Toslink.

[@Prometheus1979]

What would be the second best connection under i2s? I have a Cambridge audio cxn-v2 with all the connections except i2s. Or should I just use it without a preamp? I’m new to Dacs and to the audio world. I’m still learning. Does my iPad control the sound if I use the dac by itself? I’m trying to figure all this out. lol. Any help would be appreciated.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4iwaZmFeKiJjZY

[@calwest2207]

i would use a tried and true digital coax cable

[@epi2045]

Is RCA better at transporting digital signal than Toslink?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Basically yes.

[@toai2]

Can I pair this Cyan dac with my Onkyo receiver for better sound?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

If you have a digital source to connect to the Cyan 2, you can connect its outputs to the Aux inputs if the Onkyo.

[@toai2]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel what I meant was: would it enhance the sound? Since the receiver has a DAC on board

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don’t know the Onkyo so I can’t say.

[@danielguderian4649]

damn, sounds juicy! I was considering the Ferrum Wandla (with Magna Mano as Streamer), but now I am unsure... Regardless of the price, which one would you prefer?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

What do you think.

[@danielguderian4649]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Mh, I dont know, sry 😬. You showed that insane time residual distribution for the Cyan 2 but then again it is "only" NOS and half the price of the Wandler, which is "a very good value" (Hans Beekhuyzen) already. I have the Hipsos already for the Ferrum Oor.

[@fernandocoutinho6661]

they are both amazing products…the holo audio seems to offer more for the money but i do prefer the look of the Wandla…sometimes that matters :-)

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

And so you see why it’s impossible for me to give personal advice

[@danielguderian4649]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Sure. I was not asking for advice, but your opinion.

[@ProducerMC]

How do you like the sound vs the Gustard R26?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I haven’t reviewed it so I can’t say.

[@Buddythunder1]

Makes me wish I didn't have my Ares 2 for the desktop!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Well, you have enjoyed that for some time now and that’s worth something too

[@ulif.7593]

Thank you for your Cyan 2 testing. I want to buy my first DAC and this one is my first choice. I also look for a good streamer. What do you think about a combination with a WiiM Pro Plus? My HiFi Setup is: Brinkmann Vollverstärker, Ecouton LQL200 loudspeakers, Marantz CD-10. Hartelijk dank!

[@wolfgangrubarth3951]

Just do it ulif.74593!!! My Cyan2 arrived at 8.3.2024 from Magna Hifi. It is the best DAC I have ever heard for 1390 Euros and I heard a lot DACs. Mostly costed 3-5 times more. Burn in 250 -300 hours and you will be very, very satisfied!!!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Next week I will test the WiiM players with this DAC.

[@ilianstoimenov6619]

I am looking forward to this comparison as my digital source setup needs an upgrade.

[@RyanChoo]

Looking forward with notification turned on!

[@joseluishernandezseptien]

Great review! I wonder if you like it more than Wandla?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I do

[@joseluishernandezseptien]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you!

[@rmy81]

As someone who always recommends Iinear power supplies, why don't you connect this device to a power unit in your setup?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I don’t always advise linear power supplies. See my review of the Volumio Motivo.

[@colindoyle9876]

HoloAudio - Red -. Think the Cyan 2 could benefit?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I have not reviewed the Red so I can’t say

[@Qppolis]

Sorry for a silly question... should I turn off de power when not in use ?...Thanks

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It's no silly question! DAC's precision depends largely on how precise the internal clock crystal is. And that depend - amongst other things - on its temperature. For the sound quality it therefore is better to leave the DAC powered on.

[@calwest2207]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I have a Schiit Gungnir multi bit turned on since I got it 5 years ago to maintain thermal stability for best sound.

[@Nefty_]

There couldn’t be a better reviewer to know more about the new Cyan 2, thank you very much Hans. I was wondering, is the soundstage depth good on this Dac? I’m looking for a Dac able to reproduce that. Thanks

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

Yes, it is

[@gogo-fk1lu]

Another great video...congrats sir. I'm thinking about buying a dac. I'm deciding between holo audio cayn2 and chord qutest? Any advice?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I bought the Cyan 2...

[@PaoloCaminiti]

Bombshell!

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

perhaps the biggest ever

[@ardalay88]

Hans thank you for the review, I ordered one because of you😅 Do you have the dac with the standart fuse? Did you try synergestic research purple fuse in it? I'm curious about the improvement.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I use the standard fuse. Haven’t tried the purple one.

[@Rockapotamus91]

This is a non over sampling filterless DAC right? Shouldn’t the high amounts of aliasing cause audible artefacts that degrade sound quality?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

It has an analogue reconstruction filter

[@BrimChilling]

Its great to finally see a review of the DAC i bought 2 months prior! Great in depth review and i now know even more about the DAC than i had before. As someone who mostly listen to music on hi-end headphones, the DAC preformed better than i could have imagined. Especially with the Oversampling power this DAC has it can make the sound a lot wider than NOS.

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

what oversampling????

[@EddyTeetree]

These are made in China yes? I noticed that although you had the top off you didnt comment on the quality of components except for the toroidal. My concern apart from the moral one of supporting the CCP over ones own countrymen is that it may work well now but for how long? And yes Im well aware that its no longer possible not to source every part outside china however its still better for your own economy if a product is assembled in house using some local labour and some sourced parts as the wages taxes etc then benefitt the local economy.

[@onionknight9431]

Did you use a device that wasn’t manufactured in China to type this comment?

[@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel]

I am a tech journalist and judge the quality of audio equipment. For Geopolitics you have to be elsewhere.

[@donr62]

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelexcellent response