Fitting a wing - Home Built Datsun 240z part 21

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[@TheCDANet]

Man, your wife is a riot! Great humor. You guys have a great channel.

[@JamesMossR33]

I'm totally hooked on this build, awesome work as always folks.

[@SuperArchival]

I gotta say.. even tough I know a lot about mechanics you're teaching me a lot about paint and welding. Incredible Chanel!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Thanks mate. I love learning new skills, and most of them come from just giving it a go.

[@MrZooking]

I always look forward to my Monday fix of Mr&Mrs Jeff and the 240

[@ideabrickworks9043]

Wonderful work. As I catch up, I can’t help but notice you say “that was far more work than I expected” at least once in every episode, twice if we are lucky!

[@wmcwings4343]

Enjoying the vids. Keep up the good work and keep the vids coming.

[@TigerRogers0660]

Very entertaining & informative as always Jeff. I really enjoy your videos!! You are doing the rear spoiler properly - mine never sat on perfectly. Cheers Tiger.

[@computiNATEor]

It was so unbelievably satisfying to see the oil canning go away at 2:06. Nice work!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I was unbelievably satisfying to do it ;)

[@ActionM]

Bravo Jeff!

[@dmjunqueirarv]

Great job! Keep up the good work!

[@metal4life127]

Giving it it a bit of a wiggle till it feels pretty firm! even Mrs Jeff had a giggle at that! Keep up the good work!

[@mikl911]

Nice always enjoy learning new things from your videos.

[@shanemoorton9985]

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[@shanemoorton9985]

Great job Jeff your giving me plenty of inspiration to finish my own 1970 240z..

[@toddatstone_city_outlaw8714]

Jeff, Its nice to see how hard you work the metal before you throw on the filler.

[@galennekvasil8871]

Love the look of Datsun 240z's. Was browsing KZbin just blubbering around and found your channel. Love your Porsche too. Sub from me!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Thanks mate, welcome.

[@gregh7457]

back in the old days we used to fiberglass a paint stirring stick on the backside to prevent the oil can.

[@HotboiEngineering]

Jeff, I recommend getting some closed cell craft foam and covering the edges of the wing in it so it doesn't scratch the paint, and air won't get under it and cause a whistling effect. Water might be an issue but if you're diligent with drying the foam off you should be fine.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I didn't think about whistling. That could be an issue, true. I am not keen on foam for rust like you mention, but I will keep thinking about it.

[@JohannesKonow]

Safari rally

[@williamfreret6859]

Jeff, to mold directly to the panels use aluminum tape to protect the body, it's self-releasing... 😉

[@retrocollector4039]

Great video again Jeff. I’m from the Ohio and follow you and another Aussie know as last gamer as I love cars and video games, crazy part is yesterday he started a video game channel and has an orange Porsche!? Are worlds colliding?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Maybe. He sounds like he has good taste ;)

[@Bbeavis]

Just a small hit of paint (well, primer) really transforms the cars look!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

It really makes a huge difference.

[@martinarmstrong3233]

Hey Jeff, good work, just a thought on flat flexible panels, you could fold up a small top hat shaped stiffener and bond it on the inside. Works a treat and keeps it looking better.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Do you mean basically a circle of metal, something like the size of a roll of masking tape (or whatever size I suppose works). Interesting. That is a good idea. I can imagine that would work quite well. Good tip.

[@lachlancallis4800]

Hi Jeff, Loving the videos. I have been following you as I have been doing up my Z too. Youre a few episodes in front of my actual progress. I am currently fitting the wing now. Can you give a bit more details how you attached the fibreglass to the hollow wing and then onto the fibreglass you laid onto the hatch? I have also thought of using wing nuts or similar so I can fiberglass around the nut to create a captive nut but the wings will prevent it from spinning. Any advice is much appreciated. Cheers.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I laid it wet on wet. So I laid the wet fibreglass on the hatch and laid some around the edge of the wing, and then put them together wet, so they joined. Wing nuts would have be a much better option.

[@markraumer2336]

I can't believe how much work you got through in this episode - are you full time on the build now Jeff?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

No, I just try to do 2 days a week.

[@kevinrogers8792]

Jeff, we must have purchased the spoiler from the same ebay supplier. The rear I can make work and look okay. The front will be more of a challenge. Apparently I still haven’t learned that “you get what you pay for”. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Haha, I rarely learn that lesson. I live in the sticks so it is hard to go and look at these parts before I buy them. That is one of my excuses anyway ;)

[@corygaines001]

I welded my headlight buckets to the front fenders and eliminated the side marker lights, made it look much smoother.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I have seen that done, but I am a fan of the original.

[@davidsykes4115]

Love the channel Jeff. Any plans to put in HiLux 4 pot front brakes, or going with stock?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Leaving it stock at this stage and see how it goes. As it is still going to be an NA L28, it is not going to be too fast where I think it will be a huge issue.

[@musclecarczarig4003]

I like what you did to make the spoiler more stable. You could always put a black decal under the areas of the spoiler on the 1/4 panels, in case it does rub. Any plans to run the car in the Targa Tasmania when its done?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The black decals is a great idea. I have just been thinking that I may not have left enough room for the tailgate to click shut ;) As for the Targa, not at this stage, but I am interested in possibly the Classic Adelaide.

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Nice job . Maybe cavity foam inside would have worked, then a skim of fibreglass?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Many have suggested that, but the skim would not be perfectly lined up with the car, and how do you mount the captive nuts. Also foam has a nasty habit of soaking up water and then rusting out panels.

[@scanspeak00]

What expoy primer are you using Jeff? Does it have anti-rust properties? Maybe you should think about getting sponsorship from your paint supplier.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I have actually teamed up with Concept Paints for this build, and I am using their Zinc based Epoxy. So yes to both ;)

[@emandbryce4500]

Hi Jeff, it's been a year (?) since the 911 was painted, can you do a quick review of the paint status, as I am quite curious how your method of rust converter, epoxy, paint has held up. Any small bubbles, etc?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I did it slightly differently on the 911 to what I am doing on the Z, but the paint on the 911 is still perfect (except for where I damaged it ;) ).

[@QuesoBandito]

This didn't show up in my subscriptions feed. Kind of makes me upset because I look forward every week to seeing the progress on this car.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

KZbin is not always reliable like that. :(

[@hectorromero3536]

Hi Jeff I was wondering you used a die grinder to clean up the inside of the fenders and parts of the inside of the vehicle to take off the rust and some paint would be OK if I just used a drill and wire wheel brush since I don’t have an due grinder?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Absolutely. Use what you have. I did that for years, and gradually over time I have accumulated a good range of tools. Use what you have and build your tool collection over time.

[@hectorromero3536]

Home Built By Jeff thank you sir 👍🏼

[@white_eazy_6958]

When is the porsche going to be done can you do an update?? Keep up the great job

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Coming along slowly

[@truthseeker8483]

The spoiler looks good. I was thinking an alternative method for fixing could be to epoxy glue some threaded rod to the wing, drill through the tailgate and have nuts underneath, I dont quite understand how you are going to fix it with the captive nuts unless you have exposed screws/bolts on top of the wing. I must have missed something....

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

The captive nuts are now part of the wing, as it is now all fibreglassed together. Now I will be able to unbolt it from underneath and take it off. I do like your idea of the threaded rod though. The only thing for me would still be the hollow ends of the wing which I don't like.

[@jeffintoronto5712]

I'll be interested in how the spoiler turns out. I would have cut the 2 ends off and permanently mounted them to the rear wings/fenders and put the middle section on to the hatch. I wouldn't want the small gap between the surfaces. Hope it doesn't mar the paint or give you whistling.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Craig Sheppard mad the same comment below.

[@jeffintoronto5712]

I guess I should read the other comments before making mine. Doh!

[@garrymcdonald7994]

Nice work on the shrinking. But concerning the wing - why go to all that trouble just to spoil a nice back end?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Personal preference. Heaps of guys hate that I cut the guards too.

[@neilmeleo4183]

Cut the wing in the middle so that it is only on hatch like a duck tail spoiler on a Porsche. Looking good!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I think that would look weird in the end, but it is a good thought.

[@alanmale7011]

No, I think the spoiler should just cover the boot lid too - the ends are going to annoy your perfectionism: they won't be flush and will look odd.

[@asasial1977]

I would highly suggest using stainless steel hardware when adding a wing like this. I literally has to rip the wing off a 280z I recently purchased because all of the nuts and bolts had rusted and would not come loose.

[@moosecock1]

Jeff what MIG do you use? Never saw this answered it all the videos but might have missed it

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I use an old CIGWELD Mig which I bought over 15 years ago. I am not an expert welder, but it is definitely worth using gas over gasless. At least here in Aus, you can now buy bottles that you can just swap over when they are done, as opposed to paying an annual rental like it was in the past.

[@hynes64]

Think you should have visited some forums first jeff for some wing recommendations. Hope it works out

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I did put some feelers out, and before I mounted this I did a bit of a search, but I didn't find much that was of use.

[@CoachEgg]

240Z's have lift issues as it is. Adding a rear spoiler w/o a chin spoiler is asking for trouble at high speeds.

[@1dickycat]

Now the thing to do with the wing is get some short strand fiberglass filler, put a thin layer on the bottom of the wing and bolt it on top of the paint. That will fill in the lil gaps and make it easier to blend it just right into the rear of the body.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Did you watch the video?

[@1dickycat]

Home Built By Jeff I did and I'm talking just for that last lil bit of tightness. Just to smooth the transition between the fiberglass and the steel..

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I did that in the video? I fibreglassed straight onto my tape to get a mould of the car, and then joined the wet fibreglass from the wing onto the wet base on the car so now it is all one piece, perfectly moulded to the car.

[@danandyong6653]

It wasn't meant to be flat. There is supposed to be a very slight compound curve

[@oatz1878]

Is it ok to put filler over the epoxy primer? I thought body filler had to be on bare metal. Cheers!

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Yes. I was always of the same opinion, but that is the old school way of doing it. The new method, with the new paint technologies, is that you can put filler over epoxy primer. I have now teamed up with a paint company and I am moving forward with their guidance.

[@oatz1878]

Awesome! Cheers.

[@joshgroenewege7356]

Make it Grey plz

[@chrispainter3590]

nice work as usual Jeff but i am not a fan of wings on cars. wings are for air planes and period pads

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

:D

[@martinarmstrong3233]

Strip of metal, 4 folds, when look at the end it looks like a top hat shape, across, up, across, down, across.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Ahh, I get what you mean. Yes, I have seen that done on industrial boxes.

[@HotboiEngineering]

Physics lecture can wait lol.

[@SC457A]

Itchy sanding with fiberglass, oh my I hated using it.

[@arnoldhorshack7927]

Is Mrs Jeff a motor-head too? Or is she just nice? or both?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Just nice ;)

[@drunktortila3632]

Ive heard some people fill it then mount strong magnets to it to stick it on? You see any downside to this as i cant bring myself to drill my hatch. 😂

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I don't know about magnets holding it when the wind is hitting it at speed, but you could do the same as I have, but without the bolts and just sikaflex it on. It will be well and truly firm enough.

[@drunktortila3632]

Home Built By Jeff Hmmm ill check out sikaflex. It wont ruint the paintwork u recon? Cant wait to see what colour you end up painting the car personaly im a fan of light colours but im sure youll choose wisely as ur 911 looks great

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Sikaflex is basically a black silicone that is used for exactly that purpose. Once it is on it is not easy to get off though.

[@tokyohunter1119]

Well I missed the Porsche 911 build. Oh btw I found a barnfind Porsche 911 turbo (classic) with considerable amount of rust but the seller is selling it to a most ridiculous price of $40K which uses 60% of my budget. 😭😭

[@piotrem4323]

How about filling the wing cavity with foam?

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

I have had a couple suggest that, but that wouldn't really help. It wouldn't hold the captive nuts, and it would have to be sealed itself. It would jut end up soaking up water and causing a heap of rust later.

[@dankie44]

Mrs. Jeff is a total hottie!

[@ordinaryguy1638]

Should of foam filled it.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Nope. I have had a couple suggest that, but that wouldn't really help. It wouldn't hold the captive nuts, and it would have to be sealed itself. It would just end up soaking up water and causing a heap of rust later.

[@wesbeauchamp4182]

Moral of the story....don't buy cheap crap on Ebay

[@mattclarke3976]

First

[@BubbaSmurft]

That's not a wing.

[@HomeBuiltByJeff]

Haha