Homelander Killed Everyone In The Lab Scene | The Boys Season 4 Episode 4

[@taiall]

Thank God Superman was raised by actual people

[@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer]

Superman is not real, why are you thanking God?

[@taiall]

@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer 😑 I'm saying he could've turned out like Homelander, and then everyone would be screwed in the DC universe

[@abhirupdas5570]

@@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer neither homelander is real

[@RTB_1234]

Superman isn't real. 😂 And they made the spin-off comics or video games where he is evil.

[@metaknight115]

@@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer (incert nerd emoji)

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

The reveal of what the Therapists did to Homelander recontextualises a lot of his scenes with Stan Edgar. It makes sense why Edgar was never afraid of him since he knew Homelander had a literal mental block that meant he could never kill Stan.

[@Young_Ruckus]

What exactly do you mean ? You're saying he's not capable of killing Stan?

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

@@Young_Ruckus In the episode it's revealed when he was younger the world's best psychiatrists went to work on him putting in mental barriers that essentially made Homelander desperate for love and approval, done so he wouldn't kill authoritative figures like Stan or simply destroy the planet.

[@arsenal4739]

@@obsidianwarrior5580that’s actually scary. And what makes it worse is that since Homelander realized that if he never gets that love from humans, he can just essentially destroy the planet without any ease, it means that some parts of the mental block has either gone away or he’s overcoming it to an extent. It also could be that when he said that to Starlight, that it was just him threatening her but at the same time he can do it whenever he wants or if he loses everything so Starlight had no real position there. Either way, tremendously fucked up.

[@detherocablest7054]

I wonder if ol’ Homie can ever overcome that mental block. Stan seemed extremely confident that he wouldn’t even touch him. Overconfident, even. That shit could go wrong FAST.

[@master-of-mind5881]

Homelander’s starts a war by the final season. He’s headed for the White House. DONT worry he’s losing control episode by episode. He’s lost his grip on any humanity he possibly had. Everyone including Ryan is a danger. He’s going to go all out and only the boys can stop him.

[@calebmacenka3132]

"It is the way of men to make monsters... and it is the nature of monsters to destroy their makers." - Harlan Wade

[@doomedspacemarine5013]

Hell yeah, F.E.A.R. reference!

[@HTWW]

Time to replay the first game... Thank you for this treat.

[@anotherguttersnipe2]

My man!

[@michaelfitzgerald38]

YES! It perfectly matches this scene.

[@pranoychakravorty2370]

Lol I was thinking of Paxton Fettel and Alma as I was watching this regarding creating super soldiers

[@Wimerday]

I don't think he even used a laser but tore them to pieces , no laser burn marks on the walls.

[@TheNewRobotMaster]

Sometimes you gotta get up close and personal

[@IAAGAIAS]

O he most certainly tore them to shreds, we’ve already assessed what his lasers can do and they don’t get you covered in that much blood

[@daymenpollet4202]

@@IAAGAIAS They do.

[@anthonymendez5072]

​@@IAAGAIAS Dick blood on the other hand...

[@Marchew1200]

Whats creepy is I wonder if he tore part them one by one or more quickly

[@yuyij6703]

He stopped being human as soon as he was raised by Vought scientists

[@rayeduardo263]

So he was never Human after all.

[@claritycrystal8742]

​@@rayeduardo263He would've been if he was raised in a home with a family who loved him instead of a cold lab filled with doctors.

[@gabrielaj2066]

I still can’t believe that crazy bastard is still alive.

[@SuryaGupta-te7fq]

@@claritycrystal8742 you mean raised by supe parents that could withstand his lasers, are there any besides SB?

[@claritycrystal8742]

@@SuryaGupta-te7fq I mean, who knows? Maybe there could've been if the people in Vought _actually_ cared and tried to raise Homelander as a real superhero instead of turning him into a cold-blooded narcissistic psychopath. Or maybe they shouldn't have created him at all in the first place.

[@robertanderson5489]

It makes sense in a psychological sense, Homelander locked her in the bad-room with all the blood and ripped parts of her co-workers so she can live with the final time of her life stuck in that room while being forcefully reminded of the consequences of her actions in making Homelander into the monster that he is now in the elevator,

[@coreyeverett5500]

I know they weren't able to do the alarm in time, but there's a 0% chance that Vought labs doesn't have some kind of emergency alert system for if their secret underground facility suddenly stops functioning. It'd maybe take a few hours or a day, but Barbara is probably going to be fine. I feel like Homelander intentionally left her alive because she was the only one to not basically beg for her life.

[@thebighoney9034]

@Homelessder My favorite character is your mother.

[@therealchad140]

@HomelessderSays the weakest ripoff of Superman.

[@chipotlesnumber1stan]

@Homelessdercringe

[@niklasroth5200]

@@coreyeverett5500 Homelander is basically the head of vought right now... He could just call off any rescue attempts

[@alexakaa.charlesross8919]

Its tragic and disgusting that not 1 of them showed him kindness as a kid or even stopped to think if putting a child into an oven was right.

[@packerman7410]

He was a mere subject to him. Just something to control and test on and they were likely well-paid to abandon their morality

[@bestmind-tm2me]

like, even if they did, probably they will be next if they protest since that's classified

[@Deepstab1]

If you have ever met a scientists you would know they are vulnerable to that line of thinking

[@pervertinokripperino9364]

His teacher showed him love and compassion. He was so overjoyed he accidentally hugged her so hard he crushed her organs and killed her.

[@zitronentee]

They are bad scientist. Normal scientist will test from small things first, like candle fire, heater, then gradually try until small burn occurs.

[@excalibur9495]

Dying from his laser is better, but him using his hands to rip them apart while making her watch... is on Hell's level.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Ironically, this is a nod to how he actually died in the comics. He was literally ripped/torn apart in an extremely gruesome way by Black Noir.

[@Somethingaweful]

@@Billy-bc8pkso torn by himself.

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

⁠@@Billy-bc8pkanother nod to the comics is how they described his birth. Exactly like how it was for the comics, as well as his some which butcher killed.

[@kato856]

​@@yapyapthedestroyer2562That was Black Noir's son. Also they referenced that when Ryan is being described.

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

@@kato856 oh, sorry my bad.

[@DvornyashkaDiaries]

Dude everyone hated and was scared of Homelander from a day he was born. My man didn't even have a fuckin choice.

[@TVMAN1997]

They had a choice, they could have raised him with love. Instead he was a science project.

[@nikkimiddlekillsday5161]

His whole purpose was to be a weapon and that's why they made him

[@gooel]

@@TVMAN1997 He literally lasered his own mother to death as he was coming out of her. I have a newborn baby in the family, if he had laser eyes there's absolutely no way you could seriously try to raise him with love. They can't even control their own poop, he could kill you at any moment by accident.

[@maniac7452]

​​@@gooel They could have hire as foster parents some supes durable enough to survive his heat vision though. Or just not made this idiotic experiment in the first place because of course it was going to be a disaster

[@shahirrahman6706]

​@@gooelThey literally hired the best psychologists in the world to make him insecure and love depraved so they could control him. Is it really that hard to use the best psychologists in the world and give him love but also help him control his powers and emotions? Just BC he's the most powerful doesn't mean he didn't have a chance to be good. Dude was fucking tortured since birth ofc he's gonna have severe mental issues. As for coming out of the womb killing not his fault his powers activated the moment he was born. They definitely could have made him better. They chose not to.

[@mortusak4776]

He welded the doors shut.

[@mattheweagle223]

Pretty decent looking beads too

[@yoyo5069]

But can he tig?

[@crickcrack0]

​@@yoyo5069asking the real questions here

[@jaydevacharya12]

What does that mean? Tig? ​@@yoyo5069

[@AmusedCoffee-ym3gb]

I kept thinking those were hinges. 💀

[@A-tz9fi]

He could have lasered them from a distance and kept himself clean. But he chose to really kill them up close and personal with his hands. Pure malice.

[@anthonymendez5072]

I mean, he did use his lasers, it just wasn't the lethal strike.

[@Raccoonreligion]

@@anthonymendez5072I think he just used the lasers to weld the door shut

[@jaydevacharya12]

​@@anthonymendez5072he didn't use laser. He clearly wanted to show barbara how inhuman he is, thats why he just tored them apart brutally and in most cruel way

[@Zanoladab]

Just like what he did when he went to Ryan's house with all the soldiers

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@jaydevacharya12you can see the locks on the doors are welded shut nobody will be opening that door anytime soon by his lasers

[@earlykyler2165]

So, they brought psychologists in to purposefully make him dependent on love and validation as a way to control him?

[@A-Terrain]

yes that's literally exactly what she just said are you even listening properly?

[@TrentonSmith-vd9wf]

Yes, now she most likely strengthened Homelander sense of dependency by making him not dependent on love and validation. That’s make even worse because now he won’t show any restraint and will kill anyone without hesitation

[@froz4916]

Ikr? super fucked

[@metaknight115]

And now it's backfiring. Consider it a cheat code to actual love and affection, and all corner cutting does is inevitably fuck things up in the future.

[@Eldron2027]

@@A-Terrain that’s not EXACTLY what she said She said they brought the best psychologists to work on him . Are you as much of a butt irl ?

[@AidenApplehead]

I honestly knew Homelander wasn't gonna kill her off the rip, she didn't even really show fear to Homelander. We know Homelander doesn't really kill the people who don't fear him🤣

[@Malikbeatsdz]

he kills the people who wanna live ...and keeps the people who doesn't like their lives and doesn't mind dying alive...damn

[@mauro6545]

Yh, he didnt killed her... Just left her locked up in a metal cage that she wont be able to get out of, without food nor wather and with all the dismembered corpses of her collegues... That is FAR worse than simply lasering her or torning her appart, she will have a slow, and awful death due to dehydration in there.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

@@mauro6545he left the corpses. Thats some food right there 😅

[@AidenApplehead]

@@TonyTylerDraws and the dessert aka the cake is outside the room😭

[@BlackChad792]

​@@mauro6545 nah she will probably survive just fine and be freed on the same day. few hours until the families of the scientist report their absence and call around. or vaught themselves simply notice that their lab weirdly turned offline and dead silent and sends out a team to check it out.

[@thygravelord]

Something that I noticed as symbolism for this scene, is him being covered in blood like a newborn, perhaps meaning his new birth, as a "perfect" being that doesn't need love from anyone

[@axx012]

Nice analysis

[@ΚρανίΩ]

first ive heard of this good job beautiful analysis

[@mrwesker]

Agreed. I think the imagery of the descending elevator and the sound design play into it, reinforcing that this rebirth is a new descent into madness.

[@sb12083]

This show is laughably not this deep at all.

[@mohammadjavadmonjezi]

huh, perhaps sorta like baptism... nice catch

[@6oweLA]

He’s trying so hard to convince himself he doesn’t need love and satisfaction Which is even scarier , because he will go at no limits to prove it

[@LocPham-kw5ut]

Same with modern feminist or redpilled men. They'll go that far to the point of checking themself out of the gene pool.

[@ucNhoc]

he still has Ryan and Butcher whom he had some level of respect to keep him at bay once both of them gone, there's nothing to stop him anymore, i have pretty good feelings that will happen on the half end of season 5

[@3adgamd3r]

@@ucNhocI feel like Ryan will eventually “end” him, probably with Soldier Boys help, before the government “ends” both of them

[@6oweLA]

@@ucNhoc we still have other factors that will probably stop him , I doubt Stan Edgar is off the grid He’s somewhere readying another weapon to stop Homelander , maybe the clone from the comics

[@6oweLA]

@@3adgamd3r I think they will go the clone route , from the comics

[@ArtKing3000]

When he first arrived, he said there were some new faces, meaning they weren’t around during his childhood. Regardless, he killed them anyway… Not surprising, but still depressing.

[@alextrill5829]

Not really. They wouldn't be working for Voght - let alone a superchild raising facility - if they were innocent people.

[@lanhhuyethan5686]

Dont waste your sympathy, they dont deserve it

[@wanyekest6969]

no one is innocent here

[@resalatnawal5250]

Because they would have treated him the same way other scientists did

[@Gurkha73able]

@@lanhhuyethan5686 Homebitcher dies in the finale: season 5 baby

[@HarrisonRocks]

I'm going to guess that the "bad room" isn't where Homelander goes when he is naughty. Instead it's where he has his "bad" thoughts.

[@eputty_audio]

I'm so about this

[@No1gamer]

I'm pretty sure it was his holding room and yeah probably thought of killing his tormentors for awhile in there

[@3adgamd3r]

It’s where he spent his whole childhood, being constantly watched, monitored and recorded It’s where Marty caught him and called him “Squirt” That lab was his whole world for most of his young life

[@OnePlayer480]

​@Noname-mi1ooNo, it's just that he was usually left there, taught, fed, washed, etc. So they would usually insert handlers or teachers into the room with him, and Homelander would accidentally kill them one way or another after a while, he calls it the bad room because sometimes he would literally gore them by accident or in a fit of contained rage. This time he showed the scientists why he calls it the bad room by goring them all in gruesome detail.

[@gard3boi311]

​@@OnePlayer480wasnt it also the toom where he was horribly tortured?

[@NimbusTimbus]

Imagine being locked in a room till your death with the dismembered bodies of your colleagues... Edit: dang bro this comment exploded.. :O

[@sait_koca]

Yeah, it's her bad room now.

[@cpegg5840]

When she starts to starve she might be forced to eat some of that mess, which is even darker...

[@АнтонДегидонов]

The security service will most likely get her out of there. Because this laboratory is clearly reporting to someone, and if no one answers, then a special group will obviously be sent there for verification.

[@nintendope2976]

@@cpegg5840or she will succumb to the smell. And considering the amount of bodies in there, just imagine how bad it would be.

[@Reingnus]

@@АнтонДегидонов Homelander is the head of the company, he can easily say that they have to dismiss that situation.

[@amharbinger]

0:54 just noticed he didn't just kill everyone but sealed the door with his heat vision

[@АртёмШумилов-з1с]

So that she gets why he used to call it a bad room

[@NasiruMubarak-pp9sc]

I don't think that's a laser mark dude

[@АртёмШумилов-з1с]

@@NasiruMubarak-pp9sc what’s that then?

[@jianalexander1359]

​@@АртёмШумилов-з1сThats his poop

[@MrAlien23]

​@@АртёмШумилов-з1с the hinge is probably just dirty asf, if it was lazer there would be a long bumpy line or something

[@Wokehuman5346]

Huge respect for Jonathan Kent and Martha kent.

[@Ghost20093]

Fr

[@snmpns1ehp]

bro that one corpse upside down and degloved on the face in the bad room, the severed heads and torn apart torsos and shit. jesus that was brutal;

[@MomJeans1738]

Ngl I'd still hit

[@pugman9672]

I can’t even tell it all aprt it all looks like slop to me

[@TedShatner10]

I can make out somebody reduced to a "bust" and one of the female scientist's decapitated heads (missing her hair scalp) bunched up in the corner (with feet, legs, and arms strewn about).

[@v.mvarga4979]

It shocked me a bit. Some of my dreams as a child looked like that bloodmess scene

[@mastershooter64]

@@v.mvarga4979 bro is the next homelander

[@1701paxton]

If he'd been treated like an actual child and nurtured he could have been something great. I don't blame him for being batshit crazy when he was in every way tortured into being that way.

[@Smith-rb1qf]

Vogelbaum realized that back in season 1. That and him being more genuine Probably why Homelander let him off with paralysis.

[@luckyraygun1607]

Exactly why Superman is the way he is. He was raised by loving parents that gave him a normal life and wasn’t a lab rat to be tested on every day.

[@alternateaccounts5134]

Superman is Superman not because of his powers, but because he's Clark Kent

[@poopmaster7166]

I can blame him. I know people who had terrible childhoods but turned out to be incredibly kind people. Homelander is just a fucked up and awful person and he didn't put in any effort to change who he is and improve himself.

[@darthsherminator5868]

@@alternateaccounts5134 well its because of Jor-El and Ma & Pa Kent

[@KikoZenzen]

This final scene man. Even the whale shot disturbed me a little. The fact that we only see the aftermath of the massacre makes everything even more terrifying. Homelander is truly one of the most terrifying antagonists ever. I fucking love this show.

[@terrodar19]

This was extremely dark. He didn’t laser those people, HE TORE THEM APART

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

The ultimate example of winning a stupid prize for playing a stupid game. The game being playing gods

[@giogianelli8592]

How can prizes be stupid if they don't even have a brain?

[@xXSamsterXx14]

Human scientists play god and create a sociopathic man child who thinks he’s God

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

W take. God is God. Humans are humans. Disputing that is stupider than thinking feces are chocolate.

[@zyklan2197]

@@ericsilva-gomez2481 creating homelander is playing god

[@jqhaiul]

@@ericsilva-gomez2481he’s referring to the scientists 💀👍🏽

[@miguel8k391]

Was it nice for Homelander to spare that one lady. Great American Hero right there.

[@Awelbeckk]

He left her some food so she can wait for rescue. Why is he the bad guy again ?

[@PessimisticRavensFam]

@@Awelbeckkhe even gave them cake despite how they treated him. It’s always good to see someone be the bigger person.

[@Troplxz]

@@Awelbeckk some of it was grilled! how kind!

[@nichoudha]

He's such a genuinely compassionate and wholesome person. :')

[@spencerreid2086]

indeed like Despite everything they did to him he was still the Bigger person and forgave them I Hope I can follow his example and be half the man he is one day.

[@MixtapeEntertainment]

Welding the door shut with his heat-vision was an especially nice touch.

[@bennycaustic5102]

The way he was laughing when he tormented the scientists is probably the most genuinely happy we've ever seen him on screen.

[@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg]

Lab member comes back after two weeks on holiday. "Hey, what did I miss? Wait, I'm the director now? Sweet."

[@kumarsharma9920]

Any lab member coming back to this will sh#t his pants, pack his bags and stay hidden for life. Scarred!

[@Kyleplaysgames567]

They created a monster. I don't feel any remorse for them whatsoever.

[@justindai8401]

most of them didnt actually had anything to do with john's condition tho, only like a few in that room played a part in raising john

[@poopmaster7166]

@@justindai8401 exactly. People need to stop agreeing with homelander cuz that man is actually fucking awful

[@baneblackguard584]

all parents create monsters... it's what you teach the monsters after they are made that is the difference.

[@alextrill5829]

@@justindai8401 and what were they doing in a superchild facility? studying super-goldfishes? they didn't raise Homelander, but they were still involved in some bad stuff, if they worked there. No good scientists in Voght.

[@TovenDo.O.Video-]

I mean, some of those people were "new faces" like Homie said. Talk about bad luck. But the doctors who humiliated him definitely fucking deserved the Karma.

[@jameshawkins6619]

Damn. We need to give Homelander a welding job.

[@TheBoomhahaha]

The dude that was late to work that day gonna shit himself when he gets in

[@kishanbhatt1206]

I never thought Antony Starr could surpass his own charisma and cruelty as Homelander. But he comes up with a new masterpiece every time. In this episode, he went off the rails!!! If he doesn't deserve an Emmy, idk who would. He's a SENSATION!

[@Percss999]

Charisma?

[@zacharyspiker8090]

​@@Percss999yes???

[@ANJIN-p4q]

Charisma 😂😂

[@kishanbhatt1206]

@@ANJIN-p4q his own "Demonic/Villain" charisma. Not my fault if you can't understand

[@santiagorincon92]

Better Call Saul deserved lots of Emmy’s and look what happened.

[@mathlete855]

I love how the only sound is the elevator ding as it climbs each floor.

[@niwdlab14]

but it bothers me it goes to more beeps than the number to reach G floor

[@Arri7979]

​@@niwdlab14 - Some of the beeps are a crossover into the following scene of Hughie's Dad at the hospital. The additional beeps are coming from his heart monitor.

[@kajuanjames2708]

Antony Starr better earn a Emmy for ts😭🙏

[@paulthompson2374]

He's still great in this, but the season has been trash compared to earlier seasons. I haven't seen this episode yet, so maybe it will change my mind.

[@kajuanjames2708]

@@paulthompson2374 I somewhat agree with you with the season being trash compared to the other seasons, but Antony’s acting in this episode is peak.

[@hughmungus7425]

@@paulthompson2374 True. But it's a LOT more preachy and cringe than previous seasons, which critics absolutely love.

[@TheGovernor-vw9cf]

@@kajuanjames2708I can’t wait till his death. I want soldier boy back

[@Itsangel_11]

You guys are crackheads

[@carljohnson621]

Sealed in a room with its door welded shut surrounded by blood and dismembered, destroyed human remains until you either succumb to hunger, thirst or even insanity has to be the absolute worst way to go. Not to mention that when a bit of time passes the smell will be absolutely vile. And I just noticed that there is an actual head stuck on the ceiling. Imagine what Homelander did to that poor bastard for his head to be almost fused with the wall.

[@leviathan9865]

not only that, he tore them apart slowly as she watched

[@carljohnson621]

@@leviathan9865 I can only imagine the trauma, fear and complete helplessness everyone felt as they watched him tear them apart with his own hands one by one, knowing that you'll probably be the next one. Honestly I think every single person in there knew they weren't leaving that place alive after he killed Frank. There was no way in hell he would allow them to leave and spread the word about what happened down there.

[@Bane520]

There's no limit to human cruelty, it's sad.

[@EtherealMystic]

his need to be loved by everyone is the only thing stopping Homelander from destroying everything.

[@ucNhoc]

that slowly deteriorates every episode on one day, he will snap and decided he don't need love anymore, god help them all on that day

[@Dumb-Comment]

the fact that nothing in the room and even the walls are undamaged, suggested that he ripped them by hands apart one by one

[@jamesduffy7549]

That amount of blood suggests he didn't laser them

[@birddhunterr]

Definetly one by one, tearing limbs in the rooms individually making it personal and probably the arms and legs first so they would scream a little longer, then asking the next one into the room like the guy in the over, and if they refused his limb tearing may have been slower to those guys and possibly humiliated thier dead bodies as well

[@williamdavies1373]

Using psychological brainwashing on a child so that he'd always desire the love and attention of those around him, tell me, what happens when he breaks that, what happens then?

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

Simple, he goes nuts.

[@williamdavies1373]

@@ibrahimihsan2090 And destroys everything around him.

[@ANJIN-p4q]

Some of his actions are justifiable in court 😂

[@melkrollwz]

Scorched earth

[@Noname-xr4ql]

I guess we might find out soon cause he’s slowly loosing it.

[@mrmusickhimself]

She was so damn smug that I'm GLAD he locked her in there. She really thought it would work.

[@fabriceras9562]

Imagine being a scientist in that lab and having that day off

[@Initiallyleo]

Huh. That does make me question if we’ll see Barbara again, since it’s very likely that not EVERYONE who knew about the lab was there at the time, and it’s not impossible that someone may go looking if they don’t hear from the scientists for a day or two. Then again, it was a Vought lab, so Homelander does technically have the power to ban people from going there…

[@dmi6101]

@@Initiallyleo Homelander might technically have the authority, but I doubt he has the skill with which to wield it. If Barbara was smart, she would have used back channels to order someone to come in later and assess the damage. Even if everyone is dead, Vought always cleans the evidence, after all. And they'd need whatever research was in the lab too.

[@Elmo9001]

This felt like the one episode where everyone could actually root for Homelander. These assholes are the reason why he is the way he is, and they did it just for money. I think people overlook how insanely evil Stan Edgar is, just because he gets some badass moments of putting Homelander in his place. He's the guy who MADE Homelander. And he was comfortable working with Stormfront, a literal Nazi.

[@jayday187]

When you think about it, Vought comes from the Nazis so basically this is just Honelander being a hero and killing some damn nazis

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@jayday187he also dated a known nazi ( he knew at least) and told a girl to junp off a building when he found out she was jewish. he's just killing his own kind

[@bhavjotbrar5376]

I dont feel bad for Barbara Frank or Marty or whatever there names were but I feel bad for the other scientists cause they were hired after. I know this cause homelander only recognizes the ones that tormented him

[@oterro8225]

Homelander reliving his beloved childhood memories, how wholesome 😅

[@starscreamx7]

Hate to say it, but that was probably the most cathartic thing John has ever done.

[@titann3546]

Homelander.

[@JonCom3dy]

@@titann3546i was gonna comment this if you didn't lol

[@younghades2503]

@@titann3546light bulb noise* in deep silence……GET IN THE OVEN 👨‍🍳

[@mariopinheiro9321]

Homelander, please.

[@PopsiCOLE]

It's Homelander. And you owe him your allegiance.

[@lastsigil7241]

In the comics theres a series photos showing homelander brutally murdering and dismembering people. I think this scene was inspired by it.

[@ВиноградФиолетовый2008]

It was a Black Noir in a Homelander costume.

[@IBN-Amriki]

One horror trope that chills me to my bones is anyone being trapped in a room till death. Especially when there’s corpses involved. In GoT, they did something similar when Cersei traps Ellaria Sand with her daughter, while her daughter is doomed to a sure death. Knowing Barbara got to witness the grisly murders of her colleagues and then being trapped with their horrifyingly dismember bodies with almost no hope for escape is nuts. Also, what the fuck was she thinking? Why on earth would she admit that to an obviously unhinged Homelander? She severely overestimated the psychological card here. I almost, for a second, thought her manipulation would pull through and that she’d be able to almost mother her way out of it, I’m glad the writers didn’t pull back any punches and slapped us in the face with this.

[@TedShatner10]

A very arrogant high functioning psychopath just trying to talk her way past the increasingly unstable, brittle manchild sociopath holding the equivalent of a sawn off shotgun....

[@ButternoteBackingTracks]

I think she was just being callous and brutally honest about him being a psychological experiment. It was her way to hurt him and goad him into accepting his catharsis as futile and that he had no control. She thought she was going to die anyway, but never to be left alive to endure the end result, as cruel and brutal as it was. That was the real shock for her - the absolute realisation of the monster she helped create.

[@IBN-Amriki]

@@ButternoteBackingTracks Agreed. Also a great reminder for us that as much of a psychotic monster Homelander might be, he’s only a product of the literal people like Barbara, Vogelbaum etc. that made him.

[@tymelthompson4182]

Homelander turned that room into a Hieronymous Bosch painting.

[@Rj_draws]

That poor delicious chocolate cake

[@thecuriousboi]

definitely not getting a fudgey the whale cake after watching this lol

[@alextrill5829]

The cake is the only innocent victim in this facility.

[@MrYac-ie8ie]

@@thecuriousboi don't blame Fudgey, he's a thing of beauty and a symbol of deliciousness!

[@thomasalexanian927]

It will be avenged

[@thecuriousboi]

@@MrYac-ie8ie not after this episode lol

[@spinozilla2421]

Just realized Homelander lasered the door essentially making sure she locked in there

[@visionfamentertainment4186]

I think he hasn’t fully killed his human side. By leaving her alive (vought will likely find her in there) he probably wants her to see what he becomes. Showing deep down he still cares what certain people (the ones who fear him least) think about him. Which is why he’s kept people like her, butcher and Stan Edgar alive

[@CaptainDope]

Homelander is the CEO of the company. She will never be found. He even welded the door's hinges with his laser vision. She's doomed.

[@nintendope2976]

@@CaptainDopeBest case scenario, someone will question her disappearance (and the smell) and try to get her out in spite of Homelander. Worst case scenario, Homelander prevents anyone from going into the basement and seals it off leaving Barbara to succumb to thirst and the smell of a bunch of decomposing corpses.

[@danielhaire6677]

The room is sealed with her in it. Welded shut by his eye beams. No real food, no way out, only air coming in (unless Homelander turns off the air intakes). The only way she survives is if she turns cannibal. Otherwise, she starves to death. And through it all, she will see the blood and the torn-apart corpses of her colleagues. I don't think he has killed his human side. He has instead unleashed the darkest, most evil portion of it.

[@FFVogter.-em6zz]

Doubt it. He left Barbara alive because he wanted her to die slowly in a room full of her dead subordinates to show that killing her would be too good of a punishment in his eyes, she got him at first but she made the mistake of mocking his need for approval, that pissed Homelander off enough to kill all of the stuff right there and then to show that he finally can and will do whatever the fuck he wants. I don't think that Stan is gonna last a second the moment Homelander sees him again and Butcher got lasered in season 3 when he decided to go scorched earth.

[@zappy9880]

@@FFVogter.-em6zz But he did meet butcher in the kitchen when he met Ryan. So he won't kill him until Ryan is emotionally detached from butcher which, by the looks of it, isn't happening.

[@invisiblecoupe]

the craziest part of this is they didn't need to do the cruel things they did to him they chose to do that

[@danielhaire6677]

Homelander is a monster by his actions They were monsters for making him into such.

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

@@danielhaire6677 Monster by their actions, mostly. Hard to blame anyone when they're quite literally conditioned, brutalized and traumatized beyond anything anyone has ever been put through in history and expect them to be anything other than a complete mental case. The fact Homelander can string coherent sentences, let alone didn't immediatelly flatten the entire planet as soon as he was let loose, is kind of a very dark miracle in itself.

[@bhavjotbrar5376]

People aren’t born monsters in a way

[@DeesonJame]

He looks adorable with all that ketchup on his face.

[@GoldenBoyBlue]

So is he Homelander because he has a need for love and approval or does he have the need for love and approval because he's Homelander?

[@steepsort6905]

Jujutsu kaisen reference, like it

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

It's sort of both.

[@Sethpelepchuk]

Yes

[@pvshka]

Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the unloved one.

[@Isthatthegrimreaper170]

“Nah, I’d murder”

[@nzonk4606]

Frank's death: Toasty & Burnt. Marty's death: Humiliation & Pain. Scientists: Torn apart bloody. Barbara's fate: Either resort to cannibalism, but regardless & unlike the others, die of a slow death of starvation in the bad room for eternity till death which is a psychological revenge for Homelander. He didn't want to kill her quickly, he wanted her to suffer; he knows a easy way out for Barb is not something he could live with. Homelander is a fear mongering sadist, narcissist, psychopath, sociopath & a ruthless killer.

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Homelander did the absolute right thing, good man. Even Soldier Boy would have been proud of this. At least he gave them all a last, sweet meal and waited patiently for them to enjoy it before opening up. I liked it how he made them adress him as Homelander while reflecting over the forgotten past except for Barbara who had to be reminded of the present time period at the end because she remembered the past in great details. The lab workers were still there, so there was no really regret or guilt from their part...

[@MR.LMR1996]

Yet at the same time, he has nothing to hold him back anymore. As much of a monster the people who created him were, they were smart to instill this desire for the love of others into him like they did. Granted it would've been safter to have him raised in a proper home instead of a lab, but as he is now? Homelander can truely do whatever he wants now. He is free, and now nobody is safe from him.

[@lichlabs]

Could of at least heard it all go down. The tearing, screams, begging, and blubbering. Most people would of held their breath, heart pounding throughout that scene. What a missed opportunity.

[@trampotrav4350]

That would cross into full horror territory, they had enough terror and suspense beforehand

[@leviathan9865]

i wanted that so bad

[@rakijr9176]

Probably didn't have the budget for that level of carnage.

[@marcusking8507]

I really liked that you only see the aftermath though, and I say that assomeone who's, been disappointed with Season 4 so far.

[@lichlabs]

@@marcusking8507 not dissapointment at all. I'm just fukn greedy for seeing a head getting ripped off.

[@redflamingostudios]

You’d be constantly nauseous from the strong smell of iron in the room

[@thikifo395]

you saying this made me feel sick lowkey

[@redflamingostudios]

@@thikifo395 lmao even typing it out I was like Jesus

[@JonWesker]

Resident Evil verse after fighting Homelander be like:

[@anakmaganggaming]

funny thing is that Anthony Starr is a perfect cast for Albert Wesker

[@silloweet]

I love that he kept her alive. She was so happy about what they did to him

[@ivanramirez1027]

This scene is both ironic and poetic. Dr. Barbara talks to Homelander like his own existence is his own fault, throwing it in his face that he killed his own mother and the medical staff in the room when he was born, completely leaving out that they are the ones that made it happen. Compared to the other scientists, Dr. Barbara probably has the worst punishment, which is most likely tied to her admission of fault; Dr. Frank hurt Homelander as a kid, which resulted in him being burned alive, although his death was relatively quick, while Dr. Marty was humiliated for disturbing Homelander during masturbation, which he recalled being the only time he felt compassion. Dr. Barbara is left with the dead staff, trapped in the “bad room,” because she was very unwilling to admit her fault in all of this, as well as having the corpses surrounding her as a reminder that she has failed more people than she realizes.

[@liamnebula]

honestly the one time i rooted for homelander those scientists created a monster and got what they deserved

[@DarkAfter_____]

Homelander is the literal embodiment of “You made me this way”

[@Day_Chap]

If the writers wanted us to approve of what Homelander did to the scientists that abused him, they succeeded.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

I don't think you are supposed to approve. Just find reasonable and understandable. Big difference.

[@MR.LMR1996]

@@ibrahimihsan2090 This also sets-up the final dominoes in Homelander's downfall to me. Whilst some viewers see this as a moment of triumph and growth for him by killing his past and those who created the monster he is now, for others this is a realization that Homelander no longer cares about maintaining the love and approval of others anymore. And for a psychoathic narssesist that feels no value for the lives of those around him? This makes him more dangerous then ever.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

@@MR.LMR1996 The thing is, it's a moment of triumph of him. And mind you, Ryan accidentally killing somebody is also a moment of triumph for Homelander. He's a bad guy. Lived a horrific life but is still a bad guy. And if he's not a bad guy, he is at least too dangerous to keep active.

[@BlakeTheBloker]

0:59 the last fry going into the surplus ketchup I used too sparingly

[@stormtraitor6545]

Me trying to eat BBQ chicken wings.

[@paulgrove1407]

You actually can't blame him. Not once did anyone look at what they were doing and say 'Maybe we are going about this the wrong way'.

[@99baby21]

0:50 did he melt the door shut?

[@JamesBond77]

It seems so.

[@SuryaGupta-m6j]

She's gonna starve

[@raybp7512]

Yes

[@marsayde1237]

@@SuryaGupta-m6jNah, she’s got plenty of protein to last her weeks.

[@SinfulSpiritt]

@@marsayde1237oh nah

[@dikastederook6380]

Homelander is a straight-up monster in every meaning of the word, there's no denying that. But I was definitely rooting for him here and they all deserved it.

[@ucNhoc]

but the younger staff though, they're all new hire and probably never seen Homelander in person before...

[@ralphcifaretto1]

ALL of them?! Psychopath bastard

[@theone-tg4ey]

No he isnt. What a childish Opinion

[@theone-tg4ey]

Childish Projection of morality.

[@vortexunofficial1397]

@@theone-tg4ey What are you? Cult classic fairy Tale Projection of morality.

[@kevinescobar370]

This whole episode just left like homelander trying to convince himself he doesn’t want love anymore. It’s like the doctor said his actions just make him look small

[@samuelcotler7090]

You know what's incredible about this episode, you could edit it to only the Homelander scenes, have zero information about the rest of the show or what's about, and only seeing what Homelander does suddenly becomes one of the best episodes of Black Mirror.

[@McuThar]

You're so fast👍 Btw This Show Is Amazing

[@NorthMavericks-ow7jk]

🤣🤣🤣🤣. The first season was better than this. But now it has become woke as f***

[@McuThar]

​@@NorthMavericks-ow7jkNah

[@Malikbeatsdz]

​@@NorthMavericks-ow7jku don't understand how series works so stfu

[@johnf4447]

@@NorthMavericks-ow7jkbozo

[@TheGovernor-vw9cf]

@@NorthMavericks-ow7jkexactly season 3 is my favorite. And they made Frenchie gay

[@Eldron2027]

Dude I really hope they teasing us for Homelander brutality showcase Like they did the same with swat guys in season 2

[@anthonymendez5072]

I agree, this is gory and gruesome, but seeing it happen is something else entirely. Imagine how brutal it would have been watching him deglove that dudes face then tear his body apart. I don't think we've ever seen him get that animalistic which makes me excited and scared.

[@Eldron2027]

@@anthonymendez5072 exactly Like yes Imagining it is scary and everything but cmon they did it 3 times already They gotta be teasing something

[@justin9860]

The way Homelander looked so peaceful in the elevator while being covered in every one of his torturer's blood makes me feel like the singular ounce of humanity he had left (outside of his love for his son) - has all but been destroyed. There's nothing behind those eyes besides the seething, exposed and warped darkness of Vought's creation, if you can even still call it theirs anymore. With Homelander having a new perspective on his morality after seeing his gray hairs, nothing holding him back anymore psychologically, he can start anew for himself as this brutal, tyrant of a being, wiping out humanity one by one with his son at his side as he creates the legacy of a new, supe-filled world for him to adopt once he inevitably passes. The Boys are in trouble.

[@Sheriff-ev7my]

My guess: Ryan will kill Homelander. Ryan was raised in love with no mental issues and blocks, he is Homelander but inverse. He’s like the parallel of Soldier Boy and Homelander, the differences in love and thinking. That gap is present for Homelander and his son.

[@hell1942]

He's being corrupted by homie though

[@Sheriff-ev7my]

@@hell1942 he was still raised differently and its focused on that several times

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

​​​​​@@hell1942 nah he's starting to rebel against him by seeing Billy butcher cause he's only one who was actually with his mother and they started gaining a connection and is the one person he wants to keep on living cause he was close to his mom and even felt bad killing that stuntmen homelander only acts like humans are disposal cause vought said they can get another female therapist who was mother figure to him and he broke her spine

[@ozymandias4714]

Love is everything, you have to raise people with love, parents can create monsters

[@theone-tg4ey]

Wisdom is everything

[@TheRavencommander]

Never seen such a cathartic experience. Speaking as a child who was tortured sexually, physically and mentally from the ages of 7-13 for having mental health issues... God i wish i could have the power to go visit some of the "child care specialist" canada employs.

[@the-blue-barron2791]

Imagine coming into work late that day 😂

[@mjloh]

Imagine Homelander's been trying to cease his need for love for several seasons and all in a sudden Firecracker squirted MM right in his face.

[@atpr3241]

Mind you, everyone else in that Room had nothing to do with Homelander's upbringing(they're all younger people). They were just collateral damage in Homelander's vengence

[@sinistralhydra]

Yep, people seem to overlook this which is concerning.

[@Freakcheeks]

Yeah well they're still connected to the history by working there, can't say for certain what they've done or what they know but the fact they're there probably means it's some fucked up shit anyway. This is actually the most heroic thing he's done the entire show.

[@ucNhoc]

he did says none of them have the guts to stood up for Vought inhumanity not that it's relevant or justifyable, to him they're all the same side

[@plstmb6000]

Did they stopped torturing people there? If no, then they're just as ahitty as older workers.

[@TemariNaraannaschatz]

​@@sinistralhydraThey're still working in the child torture lab for Vought. Whatever they are doing down there is still horrible. Those are not innocent civilians but Voughts highest scientist who experiment on people.

[@jordanjoestar3474]

I love the way the show makes us feel sympathethic with Homelander as he goes through and tells his story to each certain lab scientist that he was def going to kill. These guys were not good people. They knew what they were doing to that child and were reminded of it when Homelander revealed himself in that elevator. And in that same moment, everyone knew that no one was going to escape alive. Yet, as he killed them one by one, we (at least, I) dont feel bad about it. Its fucked up yet we feel apathetic about it. The show tried to reason why the scientists did it through his convo with Barbara. It was out of fear. The show tried to make us sympathize with them, and then they revealed something. Barbara revealed something so fucked up. They psychologically altered his mind into needing of love and approval. They manipulated him, much to his nature, much like Clockwork Orange. Our sympathy went back to Homelander. And we watched his finished job.

[@Nick-zp8wk]

Vought got the world's top psychologists to program Homelander to crave love and approval but not one of those 'top psychologists' was able to predict that what they were doing would turn him into a complete psychopath?

[@YaBoyfelipe]

If you think that’s fucked up, just remember that social media companies like TikTok, Instagram, and KZbin, have the world’s best psychologists, neuroscientists, engineers, all to keep you hooked as much time as possible on their platform, to steal your time and attention, and so that you get fear of missing out when trying to quit it. Heck, if they could keep you hooked 24/7, they would do it.

[@devonmc4417]

I salute Homelander for that final shot of locking his maker in a room like that.

[@cb-9938]

That smile in the elevator is because he finally feels like he's cut out his human side. Its scary too think that this unhinged psycho just got even crazier

[@jackieanderson9408]

Those scientists didn't think Homelander would "spin back" on that ass. 😊

[@lavatr8322]

So the real culprit is VOUGHT Homelander is just the outcome

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

I mean, that much was clear since season 1. They created the monster and now the monster is using them as his new playtoy.

[@АртёмШумилов-з1с]

Homelander is the victim, everyone was terrified of him since his very first breath, I mean he didn’t even have any choice

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

@@АртёмШумилов-з1с That's the thing, he was.

[@dieprideman]

He ripped everyone up like wet toilet paper and then sprayed their bits on the walls like some kind of morbid artist. The scary part is he probably killed everyone individually and made them watch his work.

[@dangerousdictionaryjr]

Ngl Her fate was worse than death. Being trapped in a room with corses of people you knew until you die. She just ate food and drank l, so dying of Starvation and Dehydration will only take longer. While she waits for the relief of death she has to smell rotting corpses and pray that she catches an infection to speed up her process of death. Her lack of sleep may get to her as well, if she doesn’t choose to sleep on the blood soaked floor. Anyways she definitely got a fate worse than death.

[@Gnomelander1400]

She might survive as the lab being cut off would be suspicious and they would have investigated it

[@kevton1397]

Why do the elevator beeps make this more chilling?

[@MK-youtube123]

Superman who is raised by farmers- Good Homelander is raised by Scientists - Evil

[@СемёнМуратов-о4б]

*by corporation

[@torino5121]

Anyone notice that he welded the door?

[@themonopolyguy4365]

Nothing like going back home to sort out your childhood problems

[@christopherfeatherley]

While albeit tragic and most definitely cruel, and I do not justify Homelander's behaviour, perhaps this was a *necessary* evil -- at least, just in this one scene alone. These people didn't have any regard for John's wellbeing. Him killing all of them prevents the possibility of another individual suffering his same fate.

[@anakmaganggaming]

as long as Vought exists, everything will repeat itself...

[@christopherfeatherley]

@@anakmaganggaming That's very much true! We'll have to see how or pans out in the end. I hope they find a creative way to take down Vought

[@renegade7548]

One of the few examples of "F around and find out" or "Learn how to keep you're mouth shut"

[@tnbn55]

Spared the one person who didn't fear him.

[@JBrander]

0:49 now i realize he even welded the door shut.

[@S.D.323]

this is up there with Joffrey the Governor and Todd Alquist dying as one of the most cathartic things I have seen on television

[@dicarpio2177]

So he killed people who didn’t even have anything to do with his upbringing?? That’s so cold!

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

Tbf they were still Vought scientists, they may not have hurt him specifically but they were still doing to others what was done to him. None of them are innocent.

[@FancyNC]

They were still working with Vought. And they still do human experiments. Bravo homelander 👏

[@denizc889]

@@FancyNC Homelander is more dangerous than vought . Soldier boy is the real hero of this show . Homelander is just a crying lab rat

[@jacopof1045]

​@@denizc889the fact the in the previous season they decided to stop soldier boy instead of Homelander makes zero sense. They chose to save the more psychopath and the one with apparently zero weaknesses

[@FancyNC]

@@denizc889 That's not my point. Who created homelander and other fucked up supes? Exactly. Vought needs to go too.

[@amartyaroy3754]

Difference between being raised in a lab for experiments and being raised in a farm with two loving human beings 😂

[@tribblemaster9304]

Honestly given how scummy everyone at Vought is- kind of hoping Homelander just says screw it and takes out everyone from the higheups to the other employees.

[@ci7210]

Ashley is screwed.

[@koammudo43]

This was a call back to diabolical when he tore through all the hostages and bad guys like this .

[@NobleAbsinthe]

So there has to be a contingency plan for Homelander right? Like did no one think like Frenchie and prep an ass bomb?

[@MellowMink]

I suspect that Stan may still has an ace up his sleeve somewhere.

[@NobleAbsinthe]

@@MellowMink Like this universe isn't like Invincible where the US Government is competent, so yeah I'm expecting Stan Edgar to have some magic bullet type answer. Like how do you just build super heroes without a backup plan? The comics ends with literally the US military just shooting and bombing the supes, but in this universe Homelander is actually invincible.

[@J10005]

​@@NobleAbsintheThe Boys Universe US government is just as corrupt as our probably a bit more since Vought is also stirring the pot of corruption significantly

[@anakmaganggaming]

​@@NobleAbsinthei have a theory on how Stan Edgar made a contingency plan consists of Vought secret bases where they create Super Soldiers with V that can handle the likes of Homelander

[@alejandratoledo5900]

​@@NobleAbsinthe We don't know how strong Homelander really is tbf