Hi Steve, I had a go last year. it went okay but was a bit on the hard side as it cured in the fridge. This year I used pork shoulder instead of pork belly, absolute success absolutely happy with the result, it melted onthe tongue. looking forward to going through your book. Thank you so much
@mammothmeat8 жыл бұрын
River cottage!! My favourite cooking show for many years! Been watching since '98!
@vosomnesodi5 жыл бұрын
That's pretty impressive since the show didn't come out until March of '99.
@kintri10 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fantastic recipe! Would I be able to leave the meat curing like this in a tropical country?
@verdebasilicoundergroundtr27638 жыл бұрын
Steve is making "pancetta arrotolata" (basically, rolled pancetta). There is another pancetta, widely used as well, called "pancetta piana" or also "tesa"(translated: flat pancetta). Flavors end up being different because flat curing allows air to circulate in a different way. So, basically, you can also choose to make pancetta piana with the same cure yet, as I just said, by virtue of the different exposure to air, the taste will be different. Pancetta piana/tesa is also made, at times, by leaving the skin on, giving rise to pancetta tesa con cotenna (flat pancetta with skin).
@veste754 жыл бұрын
Dear verde basilico given that Seve Lamb has not addressed the curing time question what do you suggest? I have made one pancetta tesa already using presto fatto e cuore di ciccolato methods. Cuore di cioccolato states that after 21 days you can safely eat it but I will have mine after it has lost 35 % of its original weight. Is that right?
@filipdimitrijevic91766 жыл бұрын
Hello Steve, I did everything by the recipe in the book, I calculated the right amount of salt, I put all the spices, put in the bag, massaged, turned on both sides regularly, rinsed, rolled and let 4 weeks to cure. It turned out super salty... Do you have have any tip for the next one? Greetings
@SiegfriedPretsch4 жыл бұрын
You are definitely on of my favourite chefs
@chefmike994510 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Really worth doing. Excellent instruction and clear presentation. Thank you again. Blessings ChefMike
@adamrod75519 жыл бұрын
I live in very hot and humid environment, fridge is fairly dry place to my knowledge, will I get the same results by hanging it in fridge? If so, how is it going to influence the time it needs to be hanged?
@elonkajoy11146 жыл бұрын
Darling brilliant Steve! You inspired me so much that I got a whole pig naturally rased from local organic farm slatted for me. I butchered it myself and made almost all recipes that you have shared here on your FoodTube channel. I was so happy to find you that I even emailed and called Cottage River Cookery to pass my impression to you:) I’m looking forward to receive your book , but moreover to meet you this year at your classes. Thank you for your talent that you kindly share with the world. Cheers!:)
@briansmith76610 жыл бұрын
Looking good Steve, You taught me how to make cured belly pork bacon back in May 2014, at the River Cottage food fair. I'm still making it today but I now use pork loin, I just cure it for an extra day or two, depending on the size of the loin. Everyone should do this it works out cheaper, tastes hell of a lot better and lasts longer, what's not to like...Thanks Steve, till we meet again...Brian
@JamwithBands9 жыл бұрын
I just ordered your book from Amazon. Can't wait to get my hands on it and start making some of my own cured meats.
@garthbaldwin97715 жыл бұрын
I love how easy you make this.. I tried it and it was an epic success. Thanks so much :)
@JonasTheLundh10 жыл бұрын
Does vacuum packing the meat shorten the curing process by any significant amount of time? Or is it 3 days/500g in any case? Thanks for the recepie, I'll definitly try this some time!
@benjaminsoans73355 жыл бұрын
Steve, thanks for the great videos. Is there anywhere else I can buy your book apart from Amazon? Was hoping that it would be more profitable for you if I could buy off your website or something like that.
@jarrellsignature3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to cook the pancetta after you cure?
@daninczech9 жыл бұрын
I have some pancetta brining right now. I treated the ribs in a similar way in a bag with aramatic spices and about 2% salt (+ a bit of sugar) from the morning and grilled in the evening they were the best flavoured ribs I've had.
@europetempest10 жыл бұрын
Hi Steven! Is this save to eat raw because you didnt use any nitrite salt. Thanks for uploading! Regards, Martijn
@GATO04219 жыл бұрын
how long do you hang it for? what temperature is safe?
@NorthernContrarian8 жыл бұрын
Seen a few of your videos and I like them but you really need to specify how long, what temperature and where to cure these. The same with the salami video. Many ask the question yet you've not addressed it or replied to the comments.
@krankywitch8 жыл бұрын
That's the catch - the details are in the book, which they naturally wish you would buy ;)
@awinter29457 жыл бұрын
from the book: temperatures of 50F to 64F humidity of 60 to 80 percent constant airflow
@jay715125 жыл бұрын
Hang it in your fridge with a pan of water under it. Its colder than it should be but it works fine ive made dozens of pancettas over the years i now have a temperature controller and fan in a dedicated fridge for curing meats and maturing cheeses. Easy and cheap to make look in to it.
@guilhermefuhrken55029 жыл бұрын
Steve, congratulations for your channel and amazing content... Perceived that you do not use cure salt, i.e. pink salt pr Prague salt, what is your tip to avoid botulism or other bad bacterias infecting the cured meat? Always see other receipts using pink salt for long term curing process... Thanks, Guilherme
@sabersahoge26955 жыл бұрын
if you do this without nitrate will you get that rosy color ?
@seanonel10 жыл бұрын
Apart from the hanging, this is how I prepare my bacon with the only difference being that I use a ratio of 1 part sugar to 1 part salt (plus any other optional seasoning) rather than salting to weight. I find that as long as the cure is evenly applied all over the belly in a single layer rather than in a heap, that the proportions are correct. I haven't hung them though, so I'll give that a try. Looks delicious!
@Turtytreeandaturd9 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Just started to with the curing process.. *Fingers crossed*
@thepaddychannel8 жыл бұрын
Hi would it hurt to make the loin bacon in the pancetta style ie in a zip lock bag and not draining off the liquid and re applying cure? Just got my methods muddled .
@xynzee14687 жыл бұрын
What's the ambient air temp and humidity? Do you hang it in a cool room?
@sakesama18 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, why did you not use "Sodium Nitrate" , Now I like the old natural way, but others say you have to use the Poison "Sodium Nitrate" So what do you say ? Thanks Rob~
@adriantyler69118 жыл бұрын
If making Arrotolata, the rolled version like this then it is recommended to use Sodium Nitrite in the cure as Botulism grows on meat with no air flow around it, however if making Tesa the flat version then not so critical as the whole surface of the meat is open to the air. So here, I think I would be happier using SN. Many of the claims of cancer from SN have been disproved. Also SN enhances the flavour of the meat and enables it to keep it's pink colour, otherwise it tends to go an unappetising shade of grey.
@lepersquall8 жыл бұрын
do you eat spinach or celery? lots more nitrates in those than cured meats.
@Oggiwara17 жыл бұрын
Link to research that prove that?
@HamCubes7 жыл бұрын
What a luxury it is to be afraid of food.
@robertotaiwan16 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdlow even if you eat PANCETTA ..you can't image how many kinds of cancer you can get...
@charitymarces46249 жыл бұрын
how many weeks did you hang it? And does it need to dry in a room temperature?
@krislove11678 жыл бұрын
+Charity Marces hang it for 3 weeks. Optimal temperature is 17C, never exceed 21C at an area with 60% humidity.
@nickapopolus10 жыл бұрын
Is that nitrate salt or something along the lines of sea salt? Would you advise using nitrate salt? I was just going to use sea salt and go for it (because it's not pink in the video) but my friend is paranoid of my imminent death. Also, my office is like 65 degrees and not very humid. Can I hang it in there? Sorry for all the questions.
@nickapopolus10 жыл бұрын
I mean 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
@ameagorthenny89646 жыл бұрын
quick questions, any replcaement for juniper berries? GIN? i grounded my black pepper, does slightly cracked works the same?
@robhughes-games58519 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. really like your videos. like the style and ow you explain things. I do wish you would explain the end of the process a little more. temps and times to hang. found the same thing with your video on curing prosciutto. cheers
@bigtimv9 жыл бұрын
Is it regular salt or nitrate added?
@jamesbabbage10495 жыл бұрын
Hi when you cure your meat do you have a curing fridge / chamber .james
@QuebecSystema7 жыл бұрын
Steve Lamb; what are the consequences of drying a piece of pancetta in a too dry environment? I'm actually doing one in one of my fridges at 8C and around 20-25% humidity... What is your take on that?
@kevmath117 жыл бұрын
you'll have hard casing problem, outside will be perfectly hard but inside will remain moist. Mold will grow on the product, you'll have to trash it
@andyfletcher659910 жыл бұрын
So where do you hang it to dry?
@HalfQ10 жыл бұрын
Looks great. I use the skin for pork scratchings.
@emmanuelmanolas84809 жыл бұрын
great great videos Steve, could you make a video for homemade mortadella?
@dansprat10 жыл бұрын
just ordered the book.
@milsimalain9 жыл бұрын
can you achieve the same result with pork shoulder ?
@ThisGuyAd.3 жыл бұрын
When I started curing meats I thought this guy was crazy and irresponsible. Now I love him! These videos show how easy it is to make amazing cured meats at home, and most of all that it's safe. Great videos 😎👍
@bigdanny97215 жыл бұрын
How much sugar did he used?
@pishangadventures52314 жыл бұрын
How do you calculate the percent of salt in relation to the weight of meat?
@munyamubaiwa43132 жыл бұрын
Great and simple recipe. However you went from stringing the rolled meat to ready to eat. No mention on hanging time, location etc. What do I do after stringing it and when will it be ready to eat?
@dodgeviper13726 жыл бұрын
where do you hang it and exactly how long???????
@jstMichael10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recipe River Cottage!
@JV-fn5xn7 жыл бұрын
how long did you hung the pancetta for?
@JV-fn5xn7 жыл бұрын
I got my pancetta out yesterday after 4 weeks hanging I noticed a bit different color in the center so I decided to put it back I cut a piece and taste it flavor side if was excellent. I think the color has to do with the temperature. I'm doing a bit colder than required.
@johnprice17738 жыл бұрын
Why is there a different method for this compared to the guanciale/face bacon? i.e. the bag and removing the liquid daily from the guanciale.
@carbonquiznoz19 жыл бұрын
Looks delicious!
@bennyreyno9 жыл бұрын
Does it matter that I used maldon sea salt and not curing salt?!
@Mingser139 жыл бұрын
You dont have to smoke it? Is it safe to eat raw without smoking?
@giuseppecalvanodlr45489 жыл бұрын
ohgod ihatethis Normally you doesn't smoke pancetta, but in some places in Italy they do it. So, is up to you. PS: It is safe to eat it.
@klazarovful9 жыл бұрын
ohgod ihatethis The salt (and sugar), as is said in the video, is preservative, so this meat is no longer raw. Smoking is another preservative method, the smoking taste is just a side effect.
@DeinosDinos9 жыл бұрын
ohgod ihatethis It's not often that people eat pancetta without cooking it first, it's usually used as a part of a dish, cooked of course.
@caciquepadilla9 жыл бұрын
ohgod ihatethis Cooking is simply denaturing the meat. Technically you are simply breaking down the protein so its easier to digest. which is why eating raw meat usually makes you barf. prosciutto is another cured meat that we all eat raw as it has already been altered to be more easily digestible. Technically panchetta is the same but you generally want to cook panchetta as it brings out the flavor.
@thepianoband466710 жыл бұрын
cheers and we watch from Australia
@taskmastersnowyang43159 жыл бұрын
You should make your own channel for smoking meat. It would be awesome!!
@katherinezp6 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@johnsmyth62838 жыл бұрын
Any real reason to roll it? Could it not be just kept flat. Only reason I ask is that I usually buy pancetta that isn't rolled. Ta.
@shermanleeyh8 жыл бұрын
I wondered too
@adriantyler69118 жыл бұрын
In the North of Italy it is rolled, called 'Arrotolata', In central and southern Italy it is flat and called 'Tesa'.
@machinegunkelly7769 жыл бұрын
How come when i buy Pancetta from the Deli, it's got the Skin left on?
@XzzVttll9 жыл бұрын
machinegunkelly776 less time of preparation, lower the price
@petesampson42736 жыл бұрын
Pigeon! The neglected (in America) game bird. I am an avid hunter and have spent most of my life in rural Minnesota. Farmers hate pigeons and will almost always allow, if not invite, hunters to shoot a few as long as you stay well away from the livestock. We did it just for fun and practice, for many years, and would just feed the pigeons to the hogs or use them for fertilizer. Well? One day I got to thinking. Farm pigeons are not the "winged rats" that live on garbage in the cities. They are, essentially, livestock that eat all the same stuff the animals meant for consumption eat. So? We shot a few and cooked them and they were, and still are, delicious. All the recipes one would use for chicken or turkey work well but one must account for the fact that they are very lean and need a slow cook to get rid of the toughness. Or, my favorite ever, one can make a "pigducken". Take a whole, deboned, chicken. Stuff it with several pigeon breasts. Shove that inside a duck. Roast it with your favorite seasonings and sauces. If you are a hunter and have access to farm pigeons? Shoot some and eat them. You will not be sorry! (NOTE: We did begin to realize that using lead shot on a farm is a bad idea and now use non-toxic shot for our pigeon hunts. Spreading lead around a farm that produces meat or dairy products is a really, really, bad idea.) Cheers!
@awinter29457 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the math? "For every 500gr, it stays in the cure for 3 days". I understand the logic for thick cuts since it may take time for the salt to penetrate. But this is a thin piece of meat&fat. Say I have a 1000gr belly. According to this math, I need to keep it for 6 days in the cure. But if I cut it in half and put in separate bags, I need to wait for 3 days for the 1000gr of belly to cure in two 500gr batches. Thanks in advance for the explanation.
@johnsmyth62838 жыл бұрын
Book is very good. Done a few things from it. Doesn't look like this channel is ongoing though, sad
@janlappalainen Жыл бұрын
"Hanging for a few weeks" where? - in room temp? in the fridge? in the basement?
@pavlitos7778 жыл бұрын
Jurgen Klopp, '' Steve Lamb '' was the best you could think of to hide your cooking persona?!
@on1manshow8 жыл бұрын
lol nailed it
@onurulusoy63203 жыл бұрын
There is no info for drying...
@gainrev9 жыл бұрын
It is supposed to be rolled the other way.
@luciabreccia19019 жыл бұрын
You could also keep the skin and smoke it flat, that's how italians do it.
@tdolan5009 жыл бұрын
Pancetta is never smoked?
@adamlee64359 жыл бұрын
+Terry Dolan Search 'pancetta affumicata'
@tdolan5009 жыл бұрын
+Adam Lee this changes everything!!
@sabersahoge26956 жыл бұрын
that's bacon ....
@JustifyJustin5 жыл бұрын
Is it smoked before or after curing?
@natbarron10 жыл бұрын
yum
@briandunivent7 жыл бұрын
Ok, i'm liking the camera angles much more.....
@roymitchell627 жыл бұрын
Happy Happy days ...ye missed Dans 50th
@robertmarsh69918 жыл бұрын
plus one on the judicious use of nitrites and nitrates when curing meat..my old s,chool italian relatives always sneered at the use of chmicals but in the same breath told the story of Uncle Collogeru , Pietro, or Cosimo who died from eating bad sausage. The point is; while you might get lucky 1 time or a hundred times with an all salt cure, would you bet your life on it?
@matthewhunter64216 жыл бұрын
@@kjeldschouten-lebbing6260 that was a stupid comment
@andyt831210 жыл бұрын
steve lamb - surprised you could de-bone that meet with those bendy fingers.
@Lolsashalol8 жыл бұрын
how to easily find percentage : a/100 x % e.g 5% of 10000 = 10000/100 x 5= 500
@ontariobushcraft5368 жыл бұрын
That knot is called a Canadian jam knot :)
@chrisheadleand8 жыл бұрын
in Canada maybe... here its called a butchers knot.
@ontariobushcraft5368 жыл бұрын
Chris Headleand The butchers is,1 knot. Not a Canadian Jam
@corriedebeer79910 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you use 5% salt mixture. I have always use 10%
@danieleciniglio91365 жыл бұрын
Corrie De Beer in some others videos he said 3%
@skittification9 жыл бұрын
The pigeon could be cooked using streaky bacon, and no fussing about.
@ProfessorMatrix9 жыл бұрын
skittification Anything that has a high fat content. I'd imagine pigeon would be fairly lean therefore the bacon would help it.
@skittification9 жыл бұрын
ProfessorMatrix I have grown up eating pigeon, and have consumed literally hundreds of them.They are fat free and dry if not either basted with, or covered with a fatty meat.The point I was making is that, it is a lot of fuss to make this pancetta to lay over pigeon breast while cooking, when streaky bacon works just fine.
@ProfessorMatrix9 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@skittification9 жыл бұрын
***** a 'handle' like that, and you are commenting on pork?WTF!
@djstevo023 жыл бұрын
It was going well until the sugar disaster... sugar and pancetta is a no no..
@kiwihib2 жыл бұрын
Surely 5% of 1.5 kg is 75 grams.
@aviellebrown93259 жыл бұрын
wow pigeon
@kevinbratwurst14186 жыл бұрын
this guy is a fusion of gordon ramsay and jürgen klopp. just sayin.
@YouMockMe5 жыл бұрын
Vacuum sealing? Thumbs down.
@arthurrapson81834 жыл бұрын
Bin the music. Awful
@LATEWATER8 жыл бұрын
Not particularly helpful. A very finicky process. Read Ruhlman and Polcyn.
@johnelliot25618 жыл бұрын
75 grams bad math
@smackwah7 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@sebkarlsson6 жыл бұрын
90grams. What's so hard about doing it in your head? 1800gm /10 is 180. What's half of 180 (or 5%)?
@jay_behr6 жыл бұрын
Except he said it weighed 1.3 Kilos. So 10% would be 130g, so 5% is half that, which is 65g, so he was spot on.
@drgdedyoktavianus836210 жыл бұрын
love your cooking and hate your annoying accent..... i just made one and i hope it turn out good! 5% is too salty for my licking, then i use only 3%