--||-- Upgrade Speaker to neodymium Magnet --||-- step by step

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Homemade Audio

Homemade Audio

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@nrg-studio
@nrg-studio Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro! Besides watching your video I've read some of your replies here and it seems like you have a giant heap of knowledge of what you are doing and also you have a good heart to share what you know. And you are an expert in explaining complex things in so simple words. Love from Assam... ❤
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your great comment, really I'm audiophile and a big fan of speakers from childhood, especially vintage jbl monitor studio. In my life I'm technician (electromechanical) but audio diy is my favorite things that i do with love. You welcome 🥰🙏🙏🙏
@nrg-studio
@nrg-studio Жыл бұрын
Glad to know that. Keep up the good works.
@romanulnicolae2060
@romanulnicolae2060 Жыл бұрын
Pai...Probe nu?
@opexperimentboy
@opexperimentboy Жыл бұрын
I am from assam
@asath.v1314
@asath.v1314 Жыл бұрын
​@@homemade_audio❤
@christopherjolly
@christopherjolly Жыл бұрын
You should do a sound comparison between the ferrite magnet and neodymium magnet.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
personally I don't believe much in comparisons of sounds on youtube, including recording equipment, listening location, editing, equalization, youtube tuning and final listening equipment (most of the time the telephone speaker) the result is probably far from real. in the video I showed several techniques that are very important to remember to do a lot of things on speakers.
@Sodabowski
@Sodabowski Жыл бұрын
@@homemade_audio how does the modified speaker sound like? Clearer on the high frequencies? I was also expecting a comparison, even though compression will inevitably mess things up 😅 you're an amazing master of this stuff by the way, thanks heaps for putting up these videos!
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
thank you for your comment, first the modified driver is a midwoofer, already there are no high frequencies !! but what I noticed is that with the neodym magnets I have a softer sound with less presence of midranges, and a good presence of bass.
@ijulmahardika8923
@ijulmahardika8923 Жыл бұрын
What liquid is, that you injected?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
It's mentioned on the video (Paint thinner)
@hadi96100
@hadi96100 Жыл бұрын
The question is: do they sound better afterwards?
@glengatt3941
@glengatt3941 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering that
@waik0182
@waik0182 Жыл бұрын
It can, but if the speaker has a trash coil then it wont affect much
@xaviermontalban717
@xaviermontalban717 Жыл бұрын
Probably not, but it has a lot more power. Perhaps more punch to the sound?
@jeff033
@jeff033 Жыл бұрын
😂
@TwinSoundJC
@TwinSoundJC Жыл бұрын
Todo esse trabalho é em vão sem analisar os parâmetros T&S e resposta de freq antes e depois.
@axelbelleris
@axelbelleris Жыл бұрын
On the back, where the magnets are, the coil was exposed and dirt, dust, etc. could get in, which over time, will cause it to have friction, sound bad, and even the coil to get stuck. I, instead, would cover that opening with clear plastic so that it can continue to be seen when it moves. Even, to make it look prettier, I would add some LED lights. Good your idea, only the sound check was missing. Greetings from Argentina. 🇦🇷
@emmet7208
@emmet7208 Жыл бұрын
This is not necessary, many high end drivers leave this area exposed, it is great for cooling the driver, and if the woofer is properly enclosed in a good box, there will be no problems.
@dhmusic2031
@dhmusic2031 9 ай бұрын
why does everything need LEDs these days????
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 8 ай бұрын
🫣 use incandesent for pretty. leds are never pretty.
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 8 ай бұрын
​@@dhmusic2031 it doesnt. leds need ripping out of everything 😂. ive got a whole room in my place set up with only incandescents so i can get some relax light for my head. and every one diffused through some natural media. im so done with flickering.
@Skarfar90
@Skarfar90 8 ай бұрын
To combat heat, neodymium drivers will often have an open motor structure. Neodymium is weakened by heat.
@dougcox835
@dougcox835 9 ай бұрын
Definitely doing things the hard way. I think you can just buy a speaker kit with all the parts and just put your magnets in there instead of the supplied one. Maybe I'm wrong about that though but a guy I knew years ago would do exactly that to repair speakers. But this video is an excellent demonstration of how a speaker is put together.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 9 ай бұрын
Hello, the last sentence on your comment is the target 😉
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 8 ай бұрын
just buy a speaker
@pinarellospeedracer
@pinarellospeedracer 11 ай бұрын
So I installed a new sound system in my 2010 BMW Z4 and installed Focal separates front and rear ,It sounded ok but to me the titanium tweeters was way to bright . So I ordered some vibe speakers from the UK and they have neodymium magnets in the drivers and the tweeters are a silk soft dome. OMG they are so crisp and clean with no distortion at all. I listen to a lot of Jazz and now the vocals and drums are so awesome
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 10 ай бұрын
Yep the English make the best speakers
@dominikspencer3981
@dominikspencer3981 9 ай бұрын
No, the Danish make the best! Scan Speak, Vifa, Dynaudio, Eton Electro, Peerless, Tympany, etc. Anyways, the neo magnets did not improve your sound. Most likely just a better match. Many of the Focal tweeters that come with the components are kinda sub par. I always went for their inverted dome Kevlar ones. Soft not harsh, hits the high details, non fatiguing. My favorite car front end drivers have been Focal since 1986. I used to use their home audio drivers decades before they made car audio gear...
@vintagespeedshop
@vintagespeedshop 9 ай бұрын
Here in the uk Vibe is a budget brand for the kids. Vibe may be designed in the uk but its made in china
@vintagespeedshop
@vintagespeedshop 9 ай бұрын
@@Synthematix Unfortunately the majority of British speaker brands are now designed in the uk but made in china
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 8 ай бұрын
Titanium & Aluminum domes can have a certain "ring" resonance to them if not designed properly!!! Silk cloth domes always have the best response & imaging IMHO!!!
@charlestaylor3195
@charlestaylor3195 10 ай бұрын
If your video was narrated, you would get so many more views and subscriptions. You can even use an AI to narrate so you don't have to find or pay anyone. It would improve your videos and possibly answer some lingering questions people might have. The most important thing you didn't do, that was the reason for the video, was to demonstrate how the improvement worked. Why would we want to do this, we don't even know if this works, and if so, how well.
@stevetalin6489
@stevetalin6489 Жыл бұрын
Very cool and informative video. I may consider that for a much larger speaker as I’m not sure that one is worth the effort. Also you must seal the perimeter of the exposed magnets with tape or plastic to prevent debris from getting into the voice coil and pole assembly. Otherwise very nice work.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Yes i agree with you, glue isn't enough to hold well the magnets, but the best way t keep voice coil safely is to hold the two métal parts of magnets assembly with bolts. You welcome
@stevetalin6489
@stevetalin6489 Жыл бұрын
No no that’s not what I’m saying. If you look at the speaker from the side you can see the voice coil through the magnets. Debris can fall in between and get lodged in the voice coil.
@nomoimusic3096
@nomoimusic3096 Жыл бұрын
@@homemade_audio I thought perhaps an epoxy encapsulation of the magnets could be made to have the exact same toroidal shape of the ferrite magnet and thus have a closed design just like the ferrite one but with neodymium, what you think?
@simonspeaker
@simonspeaker Жыл бұрын
you could use a kind of screen net sheet over it
@lp9290
@lp9290 Жыл бұрын
The risk of debris is real but you also have to consider that exposing the coil to the air the temperature of the coil cools down during the activity and this may increase the power handling. The greater attraction of the magnet may also increase the excurions of the coils and there is the risk of a deformation of the botton of the coil hitting on the base plate because rhe greater length of the coil movements. The magnets have been glued but the are many vibrations so there is a risk that some magnet detach in the long term. To connect the top and base plates with metallic bolt may deform the magnetic field as well .
@bernard3690
@bernard3690 6 ай бұрын
thank you for the video . a frequency response comparison would be interesting .
@chloeleedow7250
@chloeleedow7250 Жыл бұрын
Bro you were surgical with that removal. Scored a sub for that without anything else that was impeccable not to mention fascinating af. I'm a total clutz to the point I make myself agnry 😂 but if you do other stuff about speakers I'll be tuning in. ✌️
@EwadWazir
@EwadWazir 9 ай бұрын
agreed lol
@ConstantinVictor66
@ConstantinVictor66 8 ай бұрын
And what is the difference? Does it sound louder or better? You didn't record how it sounds before and after.
@emmet7208
@emmet7208 Жыл бұрын
Would love to know the before and after Theil/Small parameters, if you measured them please post the results! Great video!
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Yes i agree with you, very logical question, but I don't have materials to get the new T/S parameters. I'm planning to buy Dayton Dats software in the future.
@davidrendek2399
@davidrendek2399 Жыл бұрын
@@homemade_audio Do you have an unmodified speaker model? Could you measure the deflection of the membrane at the same DC voltage with and without modification. You would immediately know whether the strength of the magnetic field in the air gap is greater or not. It is not demanding on the equipment. Of course, it won't tell you the T/S parameters. Purely theoretically, however, they should be preserved if the rest of the moving system was not adjusted, only the sensitivity of the speaker should be improved.
@gregsz1ful
@gregsz1ful 8 ай бұрын
@@davidrendek2399 More Qes, less bass, more sensitivity. More Qts. More is lower number. deflections can be higher at resonance with less magnet. The right amount of magnet is best.
@niceguy100000
@niceguy100000 8 ай бұрын
TS fundamental parameters are all the same except Bl is now infinite 🙂
@speakerpat
@speakerpat Жыл бұрын
Great job! That's some insane craftsmanship and machinery you have. Would've been interesting to see how the efficiency of the speaker changes. Feeding both the ferrite one and the neodymium one 1W and measuring it's volume. Also I am wondering whether putting the magnets closer to the coil would've granted a higher efficiency.
@BlindDude
@BlindDude Жыл бұрын
I dont think the magnets being closer would do anything. The core is what decides where the magnetic fields go.
@barthchris1
@barthchris1 11 ай бұрын
edit
@djdod2926
@djdod2926 Жыл бұрын
Nice mod and good craftmanship from you. similar to Anilco speaker 😀😀😀
@Skarfar90
@Skarfar90 8 ай бұрын
AlNiCo* was kind of the neodymium of old. Neo motors, like the old AlNiCo are highly efficient, and can produce good volume at low power. I have tested neo drivers and directly compared them to similarly powered ferrite drivers, and the difference is very noticeable. Neodymium is more common in smaller drivers, especially in modern tweeters and mid-ranges. Pro audio drivers in particular often use neodymium motors, because of their high efficiency. Though, some high-end subwoofer drivers use neodymium motors as well, it is rather uncommon in large drivers, since neodymium is much more expensive than common ferrite. Large high-power coils will often produce high temperatures too, so that is why neodymium drivers often have an open structure design, since neodymium gets weakened by heat. * AlNiCo is an alloy made from aluminium, nickel and cobalt.
@philfrydman2576
@philfrydman2576 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting vid & I can see the skills to redo the driver. I have the following comments... Artificial magnets (Samarium Cobalt and now Neodymium) are used where space/weight is reduced and strong mangnetic fiels is needed (= maximum energy produc or magnetic density): headphones, in-ear headphones for audio and electric motors (EV), hard drives, RC servos, military/space apps,... I can't see an audiophile taking the risk of upgarding to neodymium while having a big risk of downgrading the balance of cone and precisely centered coil while standard drivers/speakers are already designed for the best performance. I will not take a chance to fiddle with my Harman Kardon and Bose speakers.
@ToniPfau
@ToniPfau 3 ай бұрын
@Homemade Audio Great video. Thanks for posting. I've had very little luck getting speakers apart without destroying the frame. After watching this maybe I'll try again. There was a lost opportunity here. If you'd made the polepiece with an undercut you could have added a conductive sleeve (copper or aluminum) under the magnetic gap and another above and significantly reduced harmonic distortion just the way the expensive high-end driver manufacturers do. In addition I've thought of shielding the outside of the magnetic gap as well. I'd attach to the back of the top plate a 1/4" aluminum plate, that plate having a hole perfectly lined up with the hole for the magnetic gap. In addition there would be holes drilled through the aluminum that will locate the 8 magnets. Add another piece of aluminum to the front of the top plate, similarly aligned with the magnetic gap, and you get a near perfectly shielded magnetic gap. That should reduce harmonic distortion dramatically. Maybe when I have time, money, and the right state of mind I will try that. Thanks again for posting this.
@johnruscigno5738
@johnruscigno5738 Жыл бұрын
This would be great for subwoofers. Better for lower frequency and the coil seems like it would stay cooler with the extra air flow. Curious about how it performed
@JR-xc1yf
@JR-xc1yf Жыл бұрын
Open magnet system can attract ferromagnetic dust
@FDKAUSW
@FDKAUSW 10 ай бұрын
U can do it so. Nice work! But how big is the accustic differnce? Do U can let us hear it?
@batonsafarikukuh
@batonsafarikukuh 7 ай бұрын
Ini dih mlh mrmpersulit diri sendiri😊😊😊
@ivocalabrese
@ivocalabrese Жыл бұрын
You have a new follower...Thanks for this ultra intersting video! One question...I have all Paper cone speakers and some really vintage old kind of glue............Is really important to use some really good "paint Thinner" do you have some more detail about a good product? it is a acetone or other type? will be really helpfull to me....thanks and congratulation for what you do for all the Hifi community....Ivan
@Mr-Speaker99
@Mr-Speaker99 Жыл бұрын
Nice invention ❤🎉 1:33
@RixtronixLAB
@RixtronixLAB 11 ай бұрын
Nice video, well done, thanks :)
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@AudioHiFiCM
@AudioHiFiCM 8 ай бұрын
Nice man!👍🏻
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 7 ай бұрын
Did a Nd magnet mod and the results were increased volume with less drive current and extended HF response. Was worth it for mid and high range, didnt change much with bass and sub bass regions. Replacing with an active magnet (electromagnet) was similar.
@san71a6ok
@san71a6ok Жыл бұрын
Very good work!
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
🙏
@cobar5342
@cobar5342 8 ай бұрын
You were very brave to take this project on
@salvadoratanacio9491
@salvadoratanacio9491 Жыл бұрын
Because of this project you've got a new subscriber here sir. May I add some suggestions if you may on the magnets installed. How about you drilled a 2mm deep pocket for each neodym to seat on aside from gluing it down and also drilling four bolt holes around the base for a bolts and nuts to go through from basket all the way to the back as clamping so if ever the glue gets dull none of the individual parts would move around and gets misaligned. I would love to see a bigger version of this project (a 12" or 15" maybe😄). Great contents sir 👍
@lbudt29
@lbudt29 5 ай бұрын
Longer throw, and better air cooling, and no doubt better accuracy and detailes in the sound image. I have dolby audio and could probably hear the difference between the two spkrs. Demos are worth it.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
👍
@qtrax100
@qtrax100 6 ай бұрын
nice channel, subbed
@MrNikolaus1988
@MrNikolaus1988 10 ай бұрын
Beim lautsprecher hersteller werden die magneten doch immer unter einem speziellen Verfahren magnetisiert oder ? Wäre mir neu wahllos irgendwelche magneten da ran zu knallen
@jimmyv1753
@jimmyv1753 10 ай бұрын
Awesome work clearly a steady skilled hand. Extremely impressive making difficult skilled work look easy but i wish you had hooked it up after and shown that it still functions.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 10 ай бұрын
No sir, it's not my job to show something false to my followers, the video on the beginning is real not a fake, the driver still working good like before but with more bass and soft midrange response. You have to see the video again.
@СтоянЙорданов-о1ц
@СтоянЙорданов-о1ц Ай бұрын
You could have done some "before and after" measurements, such as the magnetic field strength in the voice coil gap, as well as measuring the frequency response at 2.83 volts and at 1 meter distance. You could also have wound a new voice coil on a Kapton base, for even better performance. Also, when centering the system, it is more correct to place the separator in advance, and slide the voice coil with the cone and spider down on it, and not the other way around. And don't be offended, I'm writing this for the purpose of constructive criticism. Greetings from Bulgaria :)
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Ай бұрын
Non pas du tout 😬😬😬 Le but de la video c'est plutôt montrer quelques techniques que de changer l'aimant !!! Pour le test je sais bien comment faire, mais le problème c'est que j'ai pas le matériel et les conditions favorable pour le faire. Merci pour votre commentaire 🙏🙏🙏
@roryadam
@roryadam Жыл бұрын
what benefits does this have? Am I wrong in thinking that the voicecoil should be changed as well, in order to allow more travel. I dont really no what Im talking about but are neodymium magnets primarily used to make a smaller speaker more efficient than had it used a ferrite magnet?
@ChickenGunnerFanOfficial
@ChickenGunnerFanOfficial 9 ай бұрын
nice job bhai
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 7 ай бұрын
I never heard of "Neodym" before but I have heard of Neodymium :p
@amarin053
@amarin053 Жыл бұрын
You have not tested the sound of both speaker differences and what good sound will it bring? We want to hear the sound difference of both the original and the modified one. How is that?
@sflbr6752
@sflbr6752 10 ай бұрын
Great JOB. WHAT did you use to lose the old clue?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 10 ай бұрын
everything is mentioned on video
@cmartin0011
@cmartin0011 8 ай бұрын
If it was better why havent subwoofer makers making them from factory? I think i have heard tweeters made with neo magnets. In my opinion must make the price jump and the sensitivity go down due to over coming a strength of the magnets? Just ideas. Nice work tho
@adrianmarin3195
@adrianmarin3195 8 ай бұрын
One should cover up that magnets enclosure, as dustproof as possible....average urban dust contains small grains of sand, earth including metal particles of which some are magnetic also....they will accumulate and get trapped into the vibrating space of the membrane's coil therefore it will strongly affect the way electric impulses are turned into sounds so distortions will occur....also, due to friction of the coil with such trapped grains, short-circuits may occur and/or the wire gets cut......
@Grommet2007
@Grommet2007 Жыл бұрын
Interesting modification. I wonder how much the driver's t/s parameters changed with the change of magnet? A stronger magnet will result in Qes and therefore Qts going down. Fs will probably go do slightly, not because of the magnet, but because of the additional glue, which adds a slight bit of mass to the cone. Room EQ Wizard (free software) and a simple impedance jig can be used to measure the parameters of the original driver and the upgraded one for comparison purposes.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
TS parameters certainly changed, not only because the magnet have been more strong, also because the old ferrite magnet create a small closed space behind the cone assembly, now with neodym magnet the cone becomes free to air on back, the result: the midrange becomes clear and soft , and the bass becomes strong, because i feel more bass power on my hands when i tested the driver.
@Grommet2007
@Grommet2007 Жыл бұрын
@@homemade_audio The increased bass power could also be caused by a reduction in BL, which will lead to more output around the driver's resonance frequency. The best way to determine what impact the change has had on the driver is to run an impedance sweep on the unchanged one and compare it to an impedance sweep of the changed one. If the impedance peak for the changed driver is lower and narrower, then BL has gone down.
@creatacasa2499
@creatacasa2499 Жыл бұрын
​@@homemade_audio It moves more easily, but dust also enters more easily and can damage the speaker winding
@JeevanKumar-bs5cv
@JeevanKumar-bs5cv Жыл бұрын
​@@homemade_audioyeah I love it.. upload sound comparison in wav format
@garyiyi
@garyiyi Жыл бұрын
I think it's better for the neodymium magnet to keep the original magnet thickness so that the voice coil position is at the right position. Furthermore, the voice coil should not expose to outside which will collect debris into the magnetic gap.
@Mallikarjunmhk
@Mallikarjunmhk Жыл бұрын
He did with patience 😊
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍👍👍
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 8 ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to use a piece of the green magnetic field viewing film to put over and see what the field lines look like before putting the cap pole piece back on!!! Additionally Would have been interesting to drill a vent hole through the pole piece for ventilation and cooling the voice coil as the dustcap looked like it was not permeable to ventilation. No ventilation between the dustcap and pole piece means you have an enclosed cavity that seems like it might hinder the Xmax excursion and truncate the SPL capability.
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 6 ай бұрын
Also adding an effect known as speaker compression.
@shibinpp165
@shibinpp165 Жыл бұрын
Keep up tha good work
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment🙏🙏🙏 you welcome 😉😉😉
@pedroantonio3464
@pedroantonio3464 9 ай бұрын
How did you do to center the new magnetic assembly?
@dr.noname6602
@dr.noname6602 6 ай бұрын
tighter punch or bass ? and what did you use there 0:40 .?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
Acétone
@dr.noname6602
@dr.noname6602 Ай бұрын
@@homemade_audio thx!
@MDSAKIL20095
@MDSAKIL20095 Жыл бұрын
Nice 🎉🎉
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@jed954
@jed954 5 ай бұрын
Bon boulot, mais pourquoi pas un moustiquaire autour les magnètes pour proteger la bobine contre la poussiere? Produit le haut parleur plus de décibels maintenant?
@rsharma3602
@rsharma3602 10 ай бұрын
Nice work done. I think you should check first with Guas Meter what the reading of orginal Barium magnet in core perifery. what the gaus value get after Neody.. magnet. Now does it require more Watt poer to drive the spaeker. In what terms it better perform.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 5 ай бұрын
Assuming the smaller magnets around the periphery actually produce a stronger field in the core it will cause less overshoot of the cone, improving the bass, and a little higher speaker efficiency. I watch these videos to learn about speaker construction so I can do better repair work on old radios.
@lauraluiza3798
@lauraluiza3798 8 ай бұрын
Which glue was used to take back the cone and centering? The yellow one in the middle / finish of video?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 8 ай бұрын
All glues are mentioned on video
@eduardovitor9235
@eduardovitor9235 2 ай бұрын
que produto você usou para remover cola do alto falante, ?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 2 ай бұрын
Acétone
@ford1546
@ford1546 10 ай бұрын
What do you use? Acetone or ipa isopropyl alcohol
@bojkon
@bojkon 10 ай бұрын
how if using only one magnet neo in the midle woofer ?
@jesusjoelgarcia8115
@jesusjoelgarcia8115 6 ай бұрын
My friend you are batting 1000 000 thanks
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
🙏
@Dzubailia
@Dzubailia Жыл бұрын
И что? Результат то какой? Что изменилось? Если ничего не переделывать он тоже играет!!! Смысл переделки?
@yingxinsun1870
@yingxinsun1870 11 ай бұрын
Will the impedance increase due to the stronger magnetic fields?
@ericmc6482
@ericmc6482 11 ай бұрын
What is the solvent applied with the syringe ?
@videomaker811
@videomaker811 9 ай бұрын
Test the sound and see which is beter before and after upgrade.
@John__Smith_
@John__Smith_ Ай бұрын
Ты сделал Oris Aurum. Прекрасная серия динамиков была
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
@pedroantonio3464
@pedroantonio3464 9 ай бұрын
What material did you use to center the magnetic assembly?
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 6 ай бұрын
Plastic of a uniform thickness and pliability. 🤔
@Mr.Electrician.68
@Mr.Electrician.68 4 ай бұрын
Good ❤❤
@Principioetfinemsimilia
@Principioetfinemsimilia 8 ай бұрын
Que uso para ablandar el pegamento del cono ? Water ?
@mohammedhasanali1446
@mohammedhasanali1446 7 ай бұрын
It really works 😁
@josephjoseph7672
@josephjoseph7672 Жыл бұрын
why not put the magnet closer to coil for stonger effect?
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 6 ай бұрын
In some instances the magnetic field can work against dependent upon placement. The Yolk which he machined is moving the field to the desired location.
@MasterTenik
@MasterTenik Жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video hoping there would be a comparison at the end and there was nothing.
@engsoundleesam6292
@engsoundleesam6292 4 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the magnet be closer to the coil? The old magnet was very close to the coil. I respect your experiments.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 4 ай бұрын
Result = less clear midrange + more deep bass. Thank you
@perisesima4691
@perisesima4691 3 ай бұрын
از همکاریتون خیلی متشکرم یاد گرفتم چه جور می‌توانم آهنربای بلندگو را در بیارم خیلی خیلی متشکرم از شما
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, you welcome 👍
@projector7141
@projector7141 Жыл бұрын
If you just want a stronger field, and there is a nice big core like that, and there is room in the enclosure - all you have to do is add magnets to the back or sides. That will strengthen the field. With surface prep, cyanoacrylate (super glue) would be fine. Just need to think a little about the field. You can get donut or wide disk neodymium magnets too. Or just double up with another copy of the existing ferrite magnet. Flux linkage is a thing. But with a stronger field, you could exceed excursion limits. While you were machining, you could have cut recesses for the magnets for friction fit.
@Luckythakurvlog
@Luckythakurvlog Ай бұрын
Bhaiya glue ka naam btao kon se use kari h🤔🤔
@СтоянЙорданов-о1ц
@СтоянЙорданов-о1ц Ай бұрын
For these places, polychloroprene adhesive, also known as "Helmitex", can be used. Two-component resins and adhesives are used to adhere the magnets.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 19 күн бұрын
Epoxy glue, i have mentioned it on video
@basukisugito3275
@basukisugito3275 Жыл бұрын
So what different will it be? I guess the Qts will be much lower. like 0.2 or 0.3?
@SketchybrainD
@SketchybrainD Жыл бұрын
I just want those magnets for my collection…. But I’m probably gonna try this out with some small speakers If it’s worth it and I don’t just suck at doing it I’ll use the 5 1inch cylinder neos I got on a nice sub.
@hasithamadhushanka8515
@hasithamadhushanka8515 4 ай бұрын
Was the newly made piece also made of iron?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@hugobaires2113
@hugobaires2113 Жыл бұрын
Just when was gonna say man I can do this and then he pops with oh this has to be machine lmmfao ok everyone has a lil tiny machine in the kitchen drawer lol but thank you for showing us how to remove everything
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
if you have watched the video carefully, you will notice that if you replace the ferrite with a neodymium of the same height, you will not need a machining machine in your kitchen drawer 😁😁😁
@vennakkodemenon9462
@vennakkodemenon9462 Жыл бұрын
So modifying to neodymium magnet cone paper movement increases.
@CharlesDowiot-qv7pp
@CharlesDowiot-qv7pp 9 ай бұрын
They also Have Magnetic shield speakers for which takes a low imput and gives you amazing sound 😊
@nyamancell
@nyamancell Жыл бұрын
Berapa inchi speaker nya om
@davmelik4426
@davmelik4426 2 ай бұрын
Вопрос, у меня есть два динамика с болшими магнитоми но отнасительно маленкими барабаноми (автомабильные), да и барабани порванные и ремонтированные (мною, но не на самой лучшей качестве), и мне хотелось би увиличить диаметор барабана как минимум на два раза (по моему должно работать ), так вот чем и как можно сделать огромный барабан (под словом барабан я имею в веду мембрану, понятно же да?!) , да ещё и можно?, будет же работать ?, если нет то почему?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 2 ай бұрын
In diy every thing is possible, but like that you'll make a new driver with different TS parameters. Also big cone means that you have to make a new big one with new big basket and new suspensions, and to make thos is a lounge story 🤷‍♂️ Based on diy on my channel you can find some videos about cone, suspensions, basket making 😉
@josemayor7333
@josemayor7333 5 ай бұрын
Me gusta la estetica de apariencia más potente pero debio haber hecho pruebas de sonodo en ambas
@AlpeshPancholi
@AlpeshPancholi 2 ай бұрын
👌👍👏
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 2 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@jyothishpc9948
@jyothishpc9948 Жыл бұрын
Exelent....!!!!
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend, it's really nice to get nice words after sharing a video that takes me a lot of time. Thank you 🙏
@flavio4483
@flavio4483 4 ай бұрын
"Pro": Only in this case, the voice coil works cooler because it is much more exposed to the weather outside. "Cons": The final sound is totally changed due to a drier, more annoying sound, since ceramic magnets are preferred par excellence for their magnetic damping capacity to sudden and repetitive changes in the magnetic polarity of the voice coil. To solve this defect with Neodymium magnets, another diameter of voice coil must be used that resonates with the woofer casing, using a more robust casing to avoid harmonic fluctuations produced by the bending of a weaker casing which is not structurally prepared to withstand large magnitude torsion. You should also consider changing the cone material to a much stiffer and thinner one or use another type of cone material that is much softer than the original and thicker. Changing the permanent ceramic magnet for a neodymium one in a speaker with these characteristics, just like that, only worsens the final sound and good results are not obtained if its structural manufacturing characteristics are not considered.
@kumar_rapper3624
@kumar_rapper3624 Жыл бұрын
Where to buy this speaker
@FV304TV
@FV304TV 9 ай бұрын
It's cool, of course, but what are you going to do with the garbage that got into the gap from the magnets?
@Indraneel-Ahluwalia
@Indraneel-Ahluwalia Жыл бұрын
what about dust getting in from back ?
@softbytesunlimited
@softbytesunlimited 6 ай бұрын
If you're upgrade is better, it should be popular by now. But for me, ferrite magnets are better, that's why it was commonly used.
@hqdefault
@hqdefault Жыл бұрын
Did it got more sensitivity? By how much?
@electronic_official
@electronic_official 5 ай бұрын
Nice
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
🙏
@nsovomabasa5014
@nsovomabasa5014 8 ай бұрын
does neodymium Magnet make speaker sound better or it is just a cliche?
@stevenjones5226
@stevenjones5226 Жыл бұрын
Can u run the speaker in a sound booth of pre and post mods?
@АндрейПряхин-ъ6г
@АндрейПряхин-ъ6г 10 ай бұрын
Хорошо ещё бы послушать как он звучит.
@walterwise935
@walterwise935 11 ай бұрын
NOW... make a video demonstrating how it is better, woofs more, sounds better, etc! PLEASE!!
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 Жыл бұрын
What kind of Glue did you use to bond the surround and spider?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
UHU rubber glue
@Flip-Flop-Rio
@Flip-Flop-Rio 8 ай бұрын
Faltou fazer o teste prático !
@maxl7827
@maxl7827 Жыл бұрын
Changing the magnet will change all the t/s parameters of the speaker. The speaker will perform compeletely differently if the magnet power is not calculated correctly.
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio Жыл бұрын
Yes i agree, this video is to show you how to make a speaker driver rather than changing magnet.
@castuart81
@castuart81 Жыл бұрын
You have also lost a huge heat sink with the old magnet. Worthless modification
@djdod2926
@djdod2926 Жыл бұрын
@@castuart81 think about the heat source and it surrounding before and after the mod.. you have here direct convection with more air. don't forget, anilco speaker were built that way. this mod is an overall improvement over the ferrite one...
@yimmyk2265
@yimmyk2265 5 ай бұрын
is it cheaper buying a pair coming with neodymium?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
Maybe yes Maybe no, this video is to shows you more skills about Speakers drivers technology and parts.
@pusingmikirnya364
@pusingmikirnya364 2 ай бұрын
So how do you adjust the magnetic poles?
@pusingmikirnya364
@pusingmikirnya364 2 ай бұрын
Oh 5:15
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 2 ай бұрын
Hello, just put all magnets in order same poles of all magnets up or down, then when you finish the project based on small battery you can check drive's polarity (cone up : drive's + = battery's +)
@brentspellmeyer8943
@brentspellmeyer8943 5 ай бұрын
Does that coil even set deep enough in the magnet? Also you have to get the poles all correct... 😅
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 5 ай бұрын
Yes, if you have seen the video , you'll find the answer 🤷‍♂️
@MichaelStoneham
@MichaelStoneham 8 ай бұрын
And what does the new speaker sound like compared to the original?
@homemade_audio
@homemade_audio 8 ай бұрын
Yes. It's not easy to get a good basse fréquences response from first test, this fabric elastic suspensions sounds good from first day, the sound is recorded based on zoom h2n.
@MichaelStoneham
@MichaelStoneham 8 ай бұрын
@@homemade_audio and I didn't see any sound samples in this video that is all. thanks.
@41526308
@41526308 Жыл бұрын
Any sound difference between both of them ?
Monster magnet meets subwoofer...
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