Homicide: The Movie - P/B 4 (Rooftop)

Homicide: the Movie. The last Bayliss/Pembleton scene...ever. On the roof, Tim confesses to Frank.

[@michaelanatole9672]

Not more than 5 mins ago I heard of Andre Braugher's passing. This scene was the absolute pinnacle of the series and his acting abilities. Rest well, Sir.

[@robertosorrentino7084]

RIP to the great Andre Braugher. For my money, Braugher as "Pembleton" was the best acting job in terrestrial TV history

[@242sighting]

This show. This character. This actor. I can't believe he's gone.

[@BrandonCWilliams]

A master class in acting from the late Andre Braugher and Kyle Secor.

[@meltz911]

Looking at this, years later, it still stands as the best police drama ever. Munch killed Pratt. He was able to just live with it. Just like Meldrick taking down Georgia Rae Mahoney's crew. Bayliss couldn't live with it, he needed Frank's forgiveness.

[@leeving2999]

meltz911 I love this .

[@mellotron_scratch]

Because of this scene Bayliss turned to be my best Homicide character, even better than Pembleton

[@scotthockenberry3085]

Dang. Who thought I’d be responding to a comment from 13 years ago. Spot on though. I’m just revisiting these scenes now that we’ve lost Andre Braugher. Great actor. Great series. And I hope you’re well

[@LeviRamsey]

@@mellotron_scratch He's the central character of the series. Fontana was on a podcast ("Homicide: Life on the Set") earlier this year and said that his vision of Bayliss from very early on (if not the absolute beginning) was that Bayliss would go from the idealistic/by-the-book cop to executioner (perhaps in the early seasons, he becomes convinced who killed Adena?)... they just needed to pace out the arc from year to year based on whether the show was renewed or not. Kellerman's arc was kind of a speed-run of the Bayliss arc.

[@easilyjaded2]

They are great, aren't they? And I read that they did this scene in one take too. Absolutely wonderful.

[@davidbartley989]

In a series loaded with powerful moments, this scene was a fitting end to the series. Despite his personal pain in turning in his friend, Frank is compelled to remain true to his beliefs. Without forgiving Tim, he carries his anguish and does the right thing.

[@tomo823]

Rest in Peace Andre Braugher Thanks for sharing your gift with us

[@Afrocentricpoet]

This scene is a master class in emotions good and bad. Andre was the truth.

[@cw8359]

Rest in Peace Andre Braugher. Gone way too soon.

[@mellotron_scratch]

I watched this show when it was aired. After all these years i was not sure if i watched all episodes (because i was too young to start watching the show) so i decided to re-watch all episodes plus the movie and i am so glad i did it. Now, i can tell that the best character of the show was Bayliss.

[@Remlundskan]

Goosebumps... I've got freaking goosebumps... I completely forgot how amazing this show was. I forgot how the chemistry between these two characters were enough to light up a small village. I forgot! How could I forget? This was, and is still, amazing! Thank you, for posting this! Thank you!

[@Ghostrider6A]

Andrew Braugher (Detective Pembleton) just passed away today, 12DEC23. RIP Detective.

[@baileytate3938]

Andre Braugher was such an amazing actor. Pembleton could have been such a dull one note character because of his rigid code but he played him with so many layers. This scene exemplifies how rich of a character he was. He cycles through so many emotions so quickly but in the end he is who he is. Doesn't matter that he retired or how much he loves Tim. The scene that sums him up the best was after he takes Tim in and he is talking to Gs son. He comments about Frank catching the bad guy and Frank replies that he caught a couple of them. Tim was his friend and his brother but now he was a just another bad guy after crossing the line.

[@riadenchong770]

I was young when this show started..so powerful to me it made a impact on my life...I wood tell my friends about it..and they never tried to get in to it or just didn't want to..it's a TV show yes ..but I made a decision to catch every show on VHS..and watch till the next. I still have them now along with the commercials of the time that reminds me of the decisions I made in my life to stay away from people that were on the show that I was actually surrounded by in my life...

[@quietandsneaky]

Thanks!!

[@turricaned7180]

@youtubed, spanglehoff - Blue meant a *solved* case from a previous year. Frank alludes to catching "two bad guys", meaning Gee's assassin and Tim. Though, true to form, Homicide leaves the true impact of the latter on Frank unresolved. The tragic irony is that Frank's impetus for leaving the force was his horror as a result of Tim almost dying through protecting him, yet without Frank's presence as a guide, Tim slowly lost his moral compass and forfeit his future anyway.

[@Brandy-yn5vt]

blue meant cold case not being actively investigated it’s in the first season when Gee shows off the squad room…the actual script for the movie does not even indicate Tim being turned in either. Now, there are two other indicators but not officially part of the show Munch says on SVU that a partner killed himself. There were other who killed themselves in HLOTS but only Lewis was ever shown as a partner to Munch. However, Fontana supposedly said at an event when asked about Bayliss that is he is rotting in prison. So there is no definitive answer it’s a lady or the river question for the viewer to answer.

[@declangill5138]

​@@Brandy-yn5vtSeason 7, Munch and Bayliss were partnered for part of it. Bayliss said he'd eat his gun if Frank didn't turn him in, Munch says the partner ate his gun in SVU

[@oomyaaqub727]

I guess this is why we have priests and therapist so we don't have to burden people we know.

[@showbizroxs]

Bayliss was such a tragic character in those final years of H: LOTS especially when Munch mentioned he committed suicide not long after this....

[@Ravenscroft82]

He didn't specify Bayliss by name, but I understand why you'd go there. I prefer to think it was someone else; I don't want it to be Tim. He deserved better.

[@evaristoquiroz3806]

God bless that man. RIP. 💔

[@roymanyara1430]

That fourth chair was either for Bayliss or Mick giardello. Pembalton took Bayliss in without a shadow of a doubt. He is THE COP, the definitive murder police there is absolutely no way he let it go.

[@bossudude420]

i thought the wire was amazing but since watching this show i had forgotten how good it was (i was a kid when this show was popular)

[@katherynemero4118]

Come on... this show was never "popular." It's damn good, but it was never popular.

[@turricaned]

I read it (and Frank's later statement that he'd caught two "bad guys" later) that Frank turned Tim in at his request - Tim wrote it up on the board and let the chips fall where they may. The empty chair in the squadroom left the question open as to whether Tim Bayliss could live with what he'd done

[@leeving2999]

turricaned Munch was parters with Bayliss on the show . When Munch was on SVU in season 3 he says a partner from Baltimore committed suicide . I will always believe it was Bayliss because of the 4th chair . Bayliss was such a mess the last season and in the movie it seemed ovbious that he would .

[@Brandy-yn5vt]

Just coming across this scene but FYI in the script for the movie it’s not Bayliss but written as a generic hand that writes on the board.

[@declangill5138]

​@@leeving2999If you listen to what Bayliss said he'd do if Pembleton didn't turn him in and Munch's description of how said partner committed suicide, the same wording has it pointing to Bayliss

[@bgstrait]

Maybe you can help me out. My husband and I just rewatched the series on DVD. I swear that when I saw it the first time on TV that the last scene of the series shows Bayliss actually shooting Ryland- my husband says he remembers that too. I remember being totally shocked. In the DVD series finale they do not show that. @@Brandy-yn5vt

[@easilyjaded2]

Heh, yeah, that was the Homicide way, wasn't it? More often than not they didn't reveal the killer or important information to the audience. Part of the reason why I loved the show. Do you think Munch killed Pratt? That's always an issue debated between H: LOTS fans I've noticed. Quite interesting too...I wonder if his character ever mentions it on SVU.

[@easilyjaded2]

Benjamin Busch.

[@windellpete5056]

This was a sad ending. 😢

[@anthonymonacelli2598]

Best seen in the movie.

[@mellotron_scratch]

*scene

[@stellarocquie7957]

@@mellotron_scratch ( thanks. )

[@michaelspears7116]

I found it strange how Frank is so perplexed at the notion of Bayliss killing someone, when he was present when Bayliss put about a half dozen rounds into a guy who was shooting up the squad room; not to mention Bayliss also fatally shot a man on-duty in self-defense later in the series.

[@Secondplanetfromthesun]

You cannot compare that to actively hunting a man down and directly shooting him point blsnk in the skull.

[@Secondplanetfromthesun]

Unless you are Meldrick. One of the most powerful scenes in the show imo was the "You go when you supposed to go! and everything else is homicide!" scene with Lewis & Beau. So I can kina see your point.

[@ShirDeutch]

The movie was not all that great, but this scene just broke my heart...

[@mellotron_scratch]

same

[@Coganboy]

I hated how they ended the series with these guys. Tim goes to prison, presumably, Gee is murdered, I wish they had never made the movie and just left it at the finale.

[@mellotron_scratch]

I hated that the Gee died but this is a correct timeline for Tim. He was tormented, and he had to unburden himself. In my mind he didnt get 30 years, he would probably go out in 5 years on parole.

[@michaelspears7116]

@@mellotron_scratch In SVU, Munch mentions he had a previous partner who committed suicide. That, combined with the fourth empty chair, leads me to think Bayliss committed suicide.

[@jbrewerman2]

@@mellotron_scratch Yeah. But tormented over a serial killer? I would have said nothing and enjoyed a long lucrative career like Munch.

[@Ravenscroft82]

@@jbrewerman2 I hear you, but Tim was a different animal. Very tormented and a perfectionist in many ways. Like Frank.

[@condor1087]

I hope someone can explain this. In earlier comments, at least two people say that Giardello dies. The Wiki page for Gee says that he dies of an aneurism and sees Adena Watson and is playing cards with Felton and Crosetti. Yet in the end of the previous part 3,. Danvers says that the shooter is facing two counts of ATTEMPTED murder for Gee and the Dr he shot. and no where after that can I find the scene showing him with Felton and Crosetti. Were there 2 versions made?

[@tumbleweed8250]

No its reveled that he dies in the scene right after this while everyone is celebrating what they still think is his survival

[@quietandsneaky]

This scene is AMAZING!!! That's the only way I can put it. But I have one question: what does it mean at the end of the scene when Ryland's name is written in blue??

[@davidlabarca4268]

Old cases that get solved were written in blue.

[@stellarocquie7957]

@@davidlabarca4268 I thought RED meant the case was solved ( or was that BLACK? )

[@davidlabarca4268]

@@stellarocquie7957 Red meant UNsolved. Black meant solved. Except when it was an old case and then blue meant solved.

[@richardhoman4594]

Fyi one of franks kids turned into a junkie

[@do2219]

Source?

[@robertmoffatt]

someone please explain... does changing the color from red to blue mean something different than red to black?

[@adamfitzgerald911]

Blue means an open case

[@mellotron_scratch]

@@adamfitzgerald911 not true. Red is an open case, black is an closed case, and blue is a special case that was open for some time and now its closed.

[@mellotron_scratch]

yes, it means that that was the older, special and more significant case that was open for some time.

[@stellarocquie7957]

Why the BLUE ink on the board?

[@blipblap2258]

Blue Ink means police involved shooting.

[@declangill5138]

​@@blipblap2258Blue means a cold case closed

[@Remlundskan]

@blipblap Well, Tim WAS in love with Frank, so...

[@leeving2999]

Remlundskan unrequited love

[@stellarocquie7957]

Don't go there.

[@Remlundskan]

@@stellarocquie7957 Why not? It's true!

[@meltz911]

Looking at this, years later, it still stands as the best police drama ever. Munch killed Pratt. He was able to just live with it. Just like Meldrick taking down Georgia Rae Mahoney's crew. Bayliss couldn't live with it, he needed Frank's forgiveness.