Homicide: Deception

The event that led to absolute hell for the Homicide squad through the rest of season 5 and 6.
Taken from "Deception", season 5 episode 19.

[@HPmob420]

Homicide is such an underrated show. It was way beyond its time.

[@scotthockenberry3085]

Way beyond. The crap on network tv could never hold up to this.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@scotthockenberry3085 Its a Wonderful show. Its also very depressing.

[@UncleJ4]

Goodbye Luther. Possibly one of the greatest TV villains ever.

[@tubekxb]

What was powerful about this scene is that after Kellerman killed Mahoney, a lesser show would have left it at that. Bad guy shot dead. Justice, right? But Homicide followed it through - how that one act set off a course of events that would rip apart the station, resulting in Bayliss getting shot & Pembleton leaving the force in disgust. Still unnerving to watch after all these years.

[@frankzappaspussy7362]

and irony is that Mahoney only got shot cos the TV execs were fed up with him getting away with so much shit and insisted that he face some consequences - little realizing that he would meet his sticky end in this way..

[@justaloe]

In real life no cop would have ever gotten in trouble for killing a drug dealer. He would have been promoted

[@stellarocquie7957]

@@frankzappaspussy7362 That doesn't make sense. Luther was SUPER popular ( in a love/hate kind of way ). I'm sure they lost viewers after that. Bad business decision on their part.

[@5wheels178]

If Kellerman had shot him a few seconds earlier when the gun was actually pointed at Lewis, it's quite likely that all the same stuff would have happened. Or maybe it wouldn't, since Kellerman and Lewis' actions throughout Season 6 (and even Falsone, who willingly fed Lewis info on the Mahoney organisation even when he knew what Lewis was doing with it) only exacerbated the situation.

[@earthboundmother205]

This series is my hero

[@kendallrivers1119]

Ya'll can keep all the Law and Orders, NCIS shows, Chicago whatevers etc. There have never been nor ever will be better cop shows than Hill Street Blues and Homicide: Life On The Street. They're also in the top television dramas of all time! Every cop show or tv drama ever since they came out has taken from them in some way, shape or form. True masterpieces.

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

The original Law & Order in the 90s was just as good as HSB and H:LOTS.

[@gillianseed909]

Luther Mahoney... man he was the greatest television bad guy. He was literally the sole reason why there was much more "RED" on that bulletin board than there was "black."

[@evaristoquiroz3806]

Once Luther was killed you’d think it was all over. But boy did it linger. Nothing was ever the same after that. No pretty little bows on this show. Fully developed characters though.

[@AmrRivers]

Luthor actually survived the shooting. After waking up in the morgue he took on the identity and job of a city forensic and mortuary employee

[@fashiondiva6972]

I still miss this show so much. I was on active duty during most of its run (and I still am to this day, 26 years and counting) and had to get my parents to record shows for me and my husband. If they forgot everything else I may have asked them to do while I was stationed OCONUS or deployed and remembered only this, all was forgiven. I remember one year I planned our PCS move around a Homicide season finale, to make sure I could see it the night it aired. We were driving cross country and I planned our stop for the night to get to the hotel (who am I kidding, it was a motel-uncle Sam was paying per diem, we weren’t staying at a Four Seasons, lol) in time to put our first child, then an infant, to bed and then watch Homicide. My first job out of law school while waiting to go on active duty as a Jag was practicing criminal law in Virginia, including the eastern shore and Maryland so the location and subject matter held a special familiarity, authenticity and relevance for me. The depiction of Charm City, from the actors, scrips/dialog, local cultural references and accents and even the handheld camera recording method were all so well done the show for me was almost like watching a documentary. I haven’t seen a show since Homicide that captured a location, its people and the subject matter as accurately that’s resonated with me personally.

[@milosmarinkovic8201]

Show was fantastic, I was watching it in Serbia. It was played one episode per Friday night on one TV station. I played basketball as a child and we had games on Friday or Saturday. If game was on friday i was trying to play bad not to be on rooster. When I read now I think, why didnt I recorded it 😂

[@KingNewJersey]

THE best cop show ever!

[@frankzappaspussy7362]

yes.. and this scene 3:40 onwards was the high-point of the whole thing..

[@eightysbaby8798]

How are you the king of New Jersey? Come to court street projects with that bullshit

[@kendallrivers1119]

Only after Hill Street Blues.

[@yospilner]

The best tv show ever!

[@TheWhocaresusername]

I hate that this has never been brought to a streaming service.

[@LeviRamsey]

NBC is apparently finally working on getting this on streaming... shame that it took Andre Braugher dying...

[@AWDISP]

Homicide: Life on the Streets, one of the most underrated police dramas EVER

[@justaloe]

"You care more about your ghosts than you care about your money Luther" So true. That's the ultimate downfall of every violent drug king pin.

[@lightsearcher1]

(Comment post 1 of 4) I very greatly appreciate the Homicide: Life on the Street postings you have made and are making. The cogency of Meldrick's soliloquy about "we are taking on human desire with lawyers, and jailhouses and lockups...and human desire is kicking us in the ass" is easily missed. Sounds like this little bit may have come out of David Simon's book. I hope it did!

[@frankzappaspussy7362]

no.. i think that is was also the philosophy of the writers and creators of the show - and was ultimately aimed at the TV execs who had been complaining that Mahoney had been getting away with too much for to long and needed to face justice.. so the writers turned around and served this up instead..

[@easilyjaded2]

Yeah, I agree. I think the shooting was clean, but the cover-up made it dirty.

[@theeditorialsuite1070]

"YOU A GOOD COP NOW?!?!?!"

[@michaeldiekmann6494]

Huuuuuuuh??!

[@Coganboy]

Some characters who get thrown out are better thrown out b/c then the show can't kill them off. Kellerman lives on!!!!

[@kentamitchell]

Erik Todd Dellums. In real life his dear ol' Dad is a US Congressman.

[@cmclayton1986]

Stivers LIED when she said she was unsure of how it all went down. Homegirl was standing right there and saw everything.

[@marquesjohnson6359]

this was a great show with terrific writing and amazing acting that was tragically underrated Luther Mahoney was also a great villian I would say the most memorable of the show

[@slice39]

Man, Homicide was the best! Look at Terri jump when Mike shot Luther, I'll bet you anything the producers didn't tell her that was going to be in the script.

[@stellarocquie7957]

I read somewhere that that's EXACTLY what happened.

[@DBrown-gu4ry]

I dont see how they could have avoided telling her that Luther was getting shot, since she's in the scene. It's just a testament to the actor's ability. Another great touch is how she reacts after she says she doesnt have a problem with it, and clearly does. She's kind of startled by the officers coming in as well. This is exactly how a person would react if they've got something extremely heavy on their mind, something they just saw and cant come to terms with.

[@DaveFerguson-vh5fn]

@@DBrown-gu4ry Seriously? I highly recommend you do some research on the film/entertainment industry because actors not being told something about a specific scene they’re in for a better more authentic reaction actually happens all the time

[@hlotsislove]

Oops. I forgot to say thank you for uploading the clip.^^ Thanks.

[@janieevans7732]

Love this show

[@Hoching03]

Hey Luther, what are you going to do with an empty gun?

[@god-fearing6103]

Best cop show ever.

[@easilyjaded2]

Yeah :( And it's all because of the "Faith No More" song that plays at the end of the clip.

[@brettbewley5798]

Tremendous song

[@yvonne2546]

His handgun is out of rounds! Lol.

[@anuvisraa5786]

faliure to feef more that aout of round you heare the shell hiting the flor when luther sicles the gun.

[@easilyjaded2]

Not my fault, youtube took it down. Haven't had a chance to take it down yet. Thanks for your appreciation though.

[@dabearcub]

Luther Mahoney...this actor could have been a great vampire.

[@stellarocquie7957]

"Luther pulled a gun on my partner, so I lit him up'" LOL

[@netoserbia]

Faith No More - Evidence

[@ILUVOLDTVSHOWS]

How about some Georgia Rae scenes?

[@lightsearcher1]

(Comment post 3 of 5) - I think the better decision would have been to make Kellerman hold-off longer on discharging his gun until Mahoney had continued to raise his own a little higher in the direction of Meldrick (who was to the right of Mahoney and Mahoney himself was in front of Kellerman). Kellerman had already ordered Luther several times to drop his gun. Mahoney was in the process of lifting his gun slowly upward, even though the movement was possibly unintentional.

[@easilyjaded2]

@spirittammyk They really are. This was only taken down because of the song playing at the end, I believe (Faith No More). I'll have to take this clip down though sometime, I don't want to reupload it since my account is already in bad standing.

[@lightsearcher1]

(Comment post 4 of 5) - Kellerman was a terrific character and I just did not like the way his character was sullied by this mostly incorrect act. The program could have still squeezed just as much of the legal/professional career jeopardy and drama out of this event in the following season 6 even if it were a bit more morally "undecipherable."

[@DBrown-gu4ry]

Baltimore is a dirty place, with dirty criminals and dirty cops. Kellerman's shooting being black and white is a great touch. It's proceeded by Lewis saying he's a good cop, then beating the daylights out of Mahoney. It makes you consider where the line is. Most viewers were okay with Mahoney being beat, and then the writers ask, "Okay, so if you're okay with that, are you okay with this?" And you've got to ask yourself as a citizen....are you? Should you be?

[@linnettemullen7594]

What you gonna do detective, read me my rights?

[@JackBauer270]

no, no one went to jail, in the next season the truth was found out and Kellerman was forced to resign from the police department tho

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

Such a damn good scene but it's clear that the blanks they are using must be inducing some kind of malfunction because you see both Lewis and Kellerman's guns lock back like that. Either that or they just have one blank in the mag and it's locking it back....does kind of take you out of the scene when you notice that. Then again most people who don't know shit about guns would probably just miss it entirely.

[@redtheftauto]

Noticed it immediately, thanks video games and ForgottenWeaponry

[@hereef1]

I was one of them

[@tomh.2405]

Yeah, knowing a little about guns ruins a lot of entertainment for you. I especially like it when a character pulls out a Glock and you hear a "cocking" sound -- which is impossible, because they don't have external hammers.

[@fashiondiva6972]

Indeed people who needlessly over analyze TV shows intended as entertainment to point out highly technical issues 98% of the viewing public wouldn’t bother to dwell on when watching a TV drama do tend to ruin it for everyone else with their pointless Monday morning, “I’m so smart I can’t help myself but to drone on about inane details” quarterbacking. As a lifelong gun owner and collector who has been shot at more times than I’d care to recall, during multiple combat deployments, who’s maintained expert marksman status every year of my military career (all 26 of them), somehow, as if by evil magic or the remarkably rare concept of not being a poser, I choose not to seek out irrelevant issues while simply trying to enjoy a movie-especially when said details are wholly irrelevant to the production overall. But as is always the case, there has to be person in every group. Congrats on being that person🤦🏾‍♀️🙄

[@5wheels178]

no-one cares

[@jasonism.]

Why can't I stream thia show anywhere? I used to have a bunch of vhs tapss I recorded when they played reruns. Between this show and the Wire I've spent quite a bit of time in Baltimore, without ever leaving California.

[@kevineaddy1248]

Good show

[@Uncletim]

As Giardello will say later, he might have argued successfully before a board and beaten any charges if not for the false reports that he, Lewis and Stivers filed. Interesting to note that the slide was back on Lewis' gun after he fired the warning shot. He was out of bullets anyway.

[@glostonandersoniii2443]

Slim Daddy: "GAMMA!"

[@JackBauer270]

so OK, I'm kinda curious as to what everyone thinks, because I myself don't even know what I think about it. Was Kellerman in the wrong or not?

[@mnaz21]

No doubt.

[@dagthewog6290]

Luther Mahoney looks like Wendy Williams...or better yet, Wendy Williams looks like Luther Mahoney. #AmIWrong?

[@christopherjackson2629]

2:04 seeking a black 1997 Ford Explorer with Maryland plates

[@richardhoman4594]

Was that Mahoney on the intercom at the gate

[@thecornedbeefcouncil9792]

Lol, G knew something wasn’t right

[@lh7325]

Why is the slide racked back after only one round fired?

[@tomh.2405]

Does anyone else think Erik Dellums should play the lead in an Obama biopic?

[@darwinkilledgod]

No way he fires 4 times sideways and hits his target 3 times and a bystander once.

[@RepoManInIndy]

If Mike had just came in shooting, it wouldn’t have caused so much drama. Real fans of the show all know, old Luther had it coming.

[@J_Ru31352]

Or if Lewis hadn't beaten Luther so severely until Luther swiped Lewis for his gun to aim at him.

[@lightsearcher1]

(Comment post 2 of 5) - As to the Kellerman Mahoney shooting, I always wished the Homicide production people would have made the shooting a bit less overtly wrong and a bit more unjudgeable as to its rightness/wrongness.

[@anuvisraa5786]

the guy have a load weapon pointig a oficer. yea the gun is loaded ti malfunctiones earlier. You can hear a shell hiting the flor after it luter sicled the gun if it was out of amo it will not have ellected a shell

[@J_Ru31352]

Some stones were left unturned as to who actually murdered Gordon Pratt when it could of been John Munch after Pratt unloaded on Bolander, Felton and Howard during that triple police shooting arc in Season 3.

[@TheGimpPimp1]

Why is Detective Lewis Aiming an empty gun at 3:46..??

[@vedicardi]

not empty, just jammed. luther unjams it after taking it.

[@kevinmahon7848]

And everyone talks about Scorsese Deniro. These Guys beat them.

[@socallawrence]

Heyyyy that’s the coroner from the wire lol

[@jdubya7139]

You have the right to remain silent...

[@spirittammyk]

@easilyjaded2 It's just mind numbing at how stupid they are. From my POV, a lot more music could be discovered if they let the kids have fun with it, mixing their fave songs with their fave movie and TV shows, because we all know the radio nor MTV won't do it. I became a fan of many songs and singers because of fan made vids, Homicide montages ,and, Third Watch was another show that did the same, which I loved.

[@qprice83]

What about the bodies Luther???

[@lightsearcher1]

(Comment post 5 of 5) - I posted this over at ej2's Crosetti video.

[@hlotsislove]

You know I've thought about this a lot. The episode Deception completely blew my mind when I saw it and I felt like "WTF" about it. Kellerman shooting an unarmed man?? It seemed fundamentally wrong for his character but Mahoney still did have a gun, even if it was lowered. Theoretically he could've shot - even if it was unlikely. I miss Kellerman (and Cox - she was actually really likeable)!!

[@katherynemero4118]

Kellerman was constantly getting his ass handed to him by Luther Mahoney. I always assumed that it wasn't the body count, but the fact that he lost the girl that first time they met. Mahoney always won. Kellerman was so bitter. I think it makes very good sense for the character.

[@Wtfdawg321]

Chevy cavaliers

[@dkapone]

He dropped him like a bag of dirt @6:23! Peace.

[@Coganboy]

Who cares? It is Luther Mahoney!

[@markpolice3585]

That shooting was completely justified. They should've just told the truth.

[@MrProfchaos71]

All their guns lock open after one shot 😂

[@thebangles]

Probably on-set safety. The Brandon Lee shooting still loomed large on sets.

[@MarkHayes-ue7hs]

Was I supposed to not see that pistol was empty?

[@johncallahan2490]

I don't think it was. Notice how Kellerman fires a shot then racks the slide? I've seen that happen in real life video of police shootings, not sure why though.

[@nvkulk]

3:46 you empty

[@kentamitchell]

BeautyU2U, Care for more halarity? Remember how some people argued that the Huxtatbles (the fictional family of the Cosby Show) weren't authentically "black"? Remember Geoffrey Lewis, Dr. Huxtable's son-in-law? In real life *his* dear ol' Dad was also a US Congressman. So, would somebody *please* tell me: R the Huxtable's "really black"? Is Mr. Lewis "really black"? Is Erik Todd Dellums "really black"? Is 'Luther Mahoney' "really black"? I'm white, but I try to keep it real

[@ydschools9745]

KentA Mitchell so only black if you are poor & grow up in the "ghetto" have a baby at 14 drop out of school?

[@frankzappaspussy7362]

not Dulux Colour Chart - chromatically Black not perfectly DNA - skin pigmentation Black however - in terms of american politics - he is Black..

[@tanello2]

first he busts his own car window for no reason and then he aims the killer with unload gun 3:45

[@transvestitebeth]

hey, if you can't post the audio TAKE DOWN THE CLIP...THIS IS POINTLESS.

[@jasonism.]

Why can't I stream thia show anywhere? I used to have a bunch of vhs tapss I recorded when they played reruns. Between this show and the Wire I've spent quite a bit of time in Baltimore, without ever leaving California.

[@fastkarr8256]

@Jason Hopkins best I can figure, NBC doesn’t own the streaming rights🤷‍♂️

[@LordZontar]

The series uses copyrighted music from a wide variety of artists, just as Northern Exposure and WKRP In Cincinnati did with no problem until copyright law was warped in to its present absolute IP ownership/control model. And because of that, ASCAP won't allow these series episodes to air on TV or on streaming services unless they're "sanitised" i.e. all music replaced by generic musak. So these shows get put in the vault if ASCAP can't get their "protection" cut.

[@michaelanatole9672]

@@LordZontar - Yup. The clips of music during the series introduced me to new music at the time that I would not have otherwise known. I still am hoping against hope this gets resolved.