Honda Civic Type R VS Renault Sport Megane R.S. | Fifth Gear

Jason and Karun are putting the Honda Civic Type R up against the Renaultsport Megane hatchbacks in a Hot Hatch Death Match! In this clip - the final lap test! Taken from Episode three of Series 27, first broadcast 20th September 2018.
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[@ianbradley7215]

Well done Megane, you and the Type R are rocking hot hatches right now

[@cosmins3268]

Although I'm a bit of a Renault fan , i have to say , both are amazing machines .

[@edsaloyz3]

i agree

[@YourLocalUkrainianGerman]

Renault is crap.

[@AB-sr9mc]

@@YourLocalUkrainianGerman so honda who forgot to design the back of the car, got between by a crap car? well done honda

[@YourLocalUkrainianGerman]

@@AB-sr9mc Now you can build this sentence again, this time in English.

[@stevenkilvington5617]

@@YourLocalUkrainianGerman funny you say Renault is crap being it just come out on to with it’s 4 closest rivals and being that one of them was a Honda

[@AdversaryNemesis1124]

Both are technological achievements, you can't go wrong with either one. We are currently seeing hot hatch classic's in real time!!!

[@michaelsingh925]

Totally agree but opted to buy the fk8 just recently. Honda pedigree done it for me, last french car i bought was a pug 306 meridan !! 😂

[@TO1000TOATHANATO]

Now, thats a proper test. No straight lines and drag races bullshit.

[@erikh1041]

the megane looks incredible

[@DILINGER0]

Lot of fans are obsesioned with 1/10 more or less, but the truth is that both are a very, very fast cars, capables to to the same on open road and track.

[@kodfish1985]

Honda wont break down tho

[@Jeerven]

@@kodfish1985 Renault's won't either. My 2006 mégane rs has never broken down so?

[@kodfish1985]

@@Jeerven well in Ireland they are disgraceful. And i Take that from a guy who owned 1 and worked for em. He went back to toyota. He had a 2003 megane 1600cc sport. Nothing but electric issues. He had to get rid of it at 47,000 miles so...he still works for renault but refuses to drive em

[@rdp4187]

Renault is better :)

[@Jeerven]

@@kodfish1985 1600cc sport? What Mégane sport is only 1.6?

[@SuperDigitalMe]

Now THATS a good motoring show! Fifth gear, the best!

[@georgefecomics98]

Both these cars have perfected the hot hatch recipe

[@mcftr]

What are the engines?

[@sugar4522]

Two race drivers that close makes no difference quality cars

[@Zeonoid]

it does my friend ..honda understeers so its second it is that clear

[@NSB25445]

The less powerful Megane won. You can always get more power from a car, but agility and cornering like that are truly rare. Megane is the number one, clear as day.

[@nickterzopoulos4684]

It's only the cup chassis. Well done megane rs

[@eazyk5276]

😢😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@eazyk5276]

My only dream car

[@sakisvak89]

If renault had the dual clutch transmission the gap would be more. Imagine what would happen if they'd race the trophy edition

[@DjNikGnashers]

Great video, thank you.

[@andypazin]

Awesome video

[@nice_anko]

When will the race start?

[@Laughitupfuzzball439]

Were was the Golf R and Golf TCR?

[@wudi911]

Who else notice megane interior shot stops after camera droop? LoL

[@ryuhayashi97]

That 4 wheel steering helps in those tight corners

[@mircea5013]

YEAH! That's why they removed the 4-control from Trophy-r. Cause it's so good. Oh wait.. that doesn't make any sense.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@mircea5013 The Nurburgring is more of a high speed track, so that would make sense for that and pocketing the weight saving. For a slalom, you'd definitely prefer to have the 4WS.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I was surprised that the Honda and Renault so easily left the Seat, Audi, and Volkswagon in the dust. Even the meaner Ford's, BMW, and Merc have good reason to be scared

[@z06dave]

I wasn't surprised. The Civic and Mégane are both much better drivers cars, people who like driving pick these, show ponies pick things like the RS3 with its buttock-shrivelling understeer 🤮

[@Nicoztrike]

Funny they didnt have the trophy with better brakes and more power

[@Shutxk0u]

Nicolai Mølgaard Poulsen the megane has less power than the fk8

[@Nicoztrike]

@@Shutxk0u yep. But still 20 HP up on the megane in this video.

[@Shutxk0u]

Nicolai Mølgaard Poulsen what do u mean

[@Racingwespe]

@@Shutxk0u there is two types of megane rs 280 and the trophy with 300 horsepower

[@Nicoztrike]

@@Racingwespe 3 types actually. The trophy r also. But the price tag is not in the same league

[@markrhoden68]

I must admit had the Megane with 300bhp been available when I brought my current car it would have been the one for me. In my personal opinion it's the better looking car.....maybe that's down to my age and less need to look like I visit Halfords too often (50)

[@mylifeasmanta]

For everyone who is saying the Megane beat the Civic Type R around the Nurburgring Nordschleife, it did so with carbon wheels and no rear seats. The Honda did it without its infotainment system (to counter the mandatory roll cage installation) and costs half as much as the Renault Trophy-R. So Honda any day for me.

[@mylifeasmanta]

Also, the reason they didn't use the Trophy-R is because it costs 72 grand. JP said at the start that these hot hatches are around 30 grand each.

[@Nicoztrike]

@@mylifeasmanta the normal trophy is 31500.. The r is a totally different beast. Took also 5 sek of the record on spa. And on the ring record it was Even more impressive when you see the hondas lap on the side. It is allot faster on all the straight compared to the Renault. Tells allot about the Renaults chassis and brakes..

[@mylifeasmanta]

@@Nicoztrike i was referring to the Trophy R Record Edition, my bad. but all the news websites seem to be pointing towards the Trophy r, rather than the Trophy non-R, and I was wondering where you got the lap records for the standard Trophy from?

[@Nicoztrike]

@@mylifeasmanta im referring to the trophy r re ords vs the type r. Wich wasnt standard also. It had a Cage and bo aircon and other Bits. And the record model you cant Even buy.. The normal trophy is allot better in tight corners and out of tight corners due to 4 control.

[@drazenbudis7881]

ɐʇuɐɯ ʍǝɐʞƃuoɹʞ Civic that did the record was illegal. No rear seats, no door panels, no aircon, no radio, racing brake pads, full on roll cage and a questionable tyre compound. Nowhere near the Type R you can actually buy. Very cheeky from Honda.

[@arturzajac8291]

I loved the anglesey circuit, nice

[@matthewruss]

first race iv seen where plato races clean

[@jacobbeattie650]

The camera inside the Renault is angled too low

[@KamilWoda]

Civic is very fast car but all versions of Megane RS are "track ready".

[@edreyez484]

We'll wait for Evo version of Megane

[@sricharte89]

In my country there is no way the audi is same priced as the others so I wouldn't put it in this price league.... Well done megane it's always been track focused car even though its not the fastest in a straight line 1.8t 205kw vs 2.0t 228kw it's all done to the chassis

[@sufianalamayrh7205]

great race👍

[@alainbauristhene6427]

Luv it when a smaller engine car shows a bigger engined car

[@moonsapling]

All I can say is these two "pocket rockets" are equal. Its up to the driver to choose if he wants French or Japanese!

[@motorhead16]

Never french. I love that country but i hate the reability of thei cars. Endless money pits, like Scotty Kilmer says. I drive a Honda after i had so many problems with a Citroen.

[@leviops4244]

@@motorhead16 you can compare all french mahnifacture because one Guy said he had problem with one french car, in Europe french car are very famous and used by a lot of People

[@motorhead16]

@@leviops4244 I live in Europe and I know how things are. French cars are popular only because they are cheap to buy(mostly used) and you have a lot of optionals. To be completly fair, last week i bought an used Renault, for those particular reasons, but is just a vehicle, from A to B. Doesn't give you the emotion of Honda, BMW, Mazda or others. That's my taste, though, hope the car will make no reability problems. And try to sell one french and one german, you'll see the a big difference in people's interest. Best regards!

[@leviops4244]

@@motorhead16 yeah but no(i am going to speak french because i am tired) non mais la tu compare une voiture normal bas de game contre une voiture de luxe, par exemple Renault sport et renault c'est pas du tout la même chose, c'est pas la même conduite...

[@motorhead16]

@@leviops4244 Renault Megane RS is a luxury car... Good one! 😂

[@paulmaheno496]

As a RS 250 owner I wouldn't trade up to the new one....too much fun

[@tyraela115]

Why trade, have both of them :))))

[@tomectomec1092]

Renault 😍

[@kylejf9059]

Weird,watched a video earlier where the type r is over a second and a half quicker than the Mégane rs... As was the I30 N Performance.... Not that it really makes a difference to your non pro drivers (such as myself lol).

[@vMaxHeadroom]

It also depends on the type of track and yes the drivers...Both of these drivers are proper race drivers in there own classes. A longer circuit the Type R would probably win, a shorter twisty circuit, the Megane for sure..

[@benclaydon6331]

I feel like you didn't use the meganes full potential 😕 deffo not another coriagrphed episode

[@ElLebza]

Uhm, is it ok if i take that coin... Coz... Coz I think you guys just left it on the floor.

[@StillyWoo]

Love the accents.... UK Track Battle...Nigel Knob Twollop vs. Raj Biryani

[@hivanation-2681]

0:45 Legend has it, the coin is still on the ground till now :P

[@MrTe450-Hayabusa-No-Limits]

Karun also sure knows how to throw a car around, good job mate!

[@lucaantonelli1511]

Which one is more reliable? Yes, you know it too.

[@bootneck401664]

Another “not choreographed” episode 😏

[@jaylocke9574]

Such utter in your face bullshit. I thought I was watching WWE wrestling it was so fixed.

[@bootneck401664]

Jay Locke 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@larsveldman2374]

True

[@k20ee96]

So almost every other motoring publication has the Megane Trophy a mile behind the Civic Type R, but here the Megane 280 beats the Civic :). Nice

[@mrt9941]

Mate, the difference here is the drivers only. The cars are 98% equal on the performance part I would say, the driver in each car is the one truly able to unleash its potential

[@realnatfor8481]

It's note the normal Megane RS, it's the Cup Chassis, same asset of the Trophy, the only difference are 20hp.

[@cb5110]

Actual that is not true, on tracks that have alot of straight the CTR was hard to beat, on tracks that have less straight, the megane RS trophy smoke the CTR, you can even see it in this video

[@yannickpds8910]

Renault Sport knowledge will ever win against VW-Honda-Seat-Audi, because they create and develop an incredible chassis ! Here its the regular Megane RS with 280hp, cup chassis et manual gearbox. With approx the same weight, and 30hp less than the Type R, how its possible that the Renault smash it ?? VAG / Honda power are for German Autobahn, Renault Sport for track day !

[@pseiofosdrei]

ROFL

[@cb5110]

because it slower in the corners and slower 0-60, it can be seen honda strength is 1/4 mile run against the renault, but on a track with a lot of turns it dead, this is not the only race, there are others, and also in autoblan the golf was last, but the golf has a faster 1/4 mile time than CTR, the honda beat them both on different reason, it faster on the straight than the renault, but corner better than the golf. In this case the honda have little to run, and could not handle the corners like the renault,so the renault got it on the turf.

[@raphaelsimeon8618]

40hp less than Civic, 320hp and not 310

[@user-gp1ft6ug2m]

It's the regular renault rs 280. The throphy 300 will smash the civic

[@lostchildren]

And the Type S 400 Civic will run circles around it.

[@gynads]

@@lostchildren The what....?

[@bimbeano]

lostchildren LoL .... type S 400 and type R 320

[@nikolagregic7709]

Plz Dont put Renault in same sentence with Honda. Renault sucks, whole brand.

[@Akira.Nibbai]

Yeh, the megay needs plastic windows and no interior to smash the civic lmaooo

[@tunatakam5227]

It doesn't matter what's under the engine compartment. But the driver is important.

[@BotulinSpikedMarzipan]

At the end, the Renault's *driver* wins

[@ryan2387]

None are a patch on s3 or golf r

[@Russeroo]

Except both will beat either....comfortably

[@jocalibusohump]

Wow nice...I have a megane Renault 😻

[@christopherdaniel6142]

this is for show and nothing more ....we gunna let em have it .good one meg.

[@laidbackLUKEY]

Great until the Megan is 5 years old and all the rubber parts are disintegrating and it’s got more electrical problems than the London Underground 😆

[@realnatfor8481]

I'm seeing a lot of butthurts comment, and it was just the normal Megane, not the Trophy!

[@laidbackLUKEY]

realnatfor no not at all, both great cars and boy can Renault make a hot hatch I’ve had a few myself just stating the build quality is quiet poor on the Renaults that’s all

[@bjgnrforever]

You don't know shit...

[@earl9486]

That is why so many 20 year old renaults are still driving on road and track

[@laidbackLUKEY]

bjgnrforever with a comment such as that I would imagine that your judgement on build quality of cars is somewhat loose like your ability to create a comment worth reading

[@tariks926]

I'm disappointed there is no Golf GTI the original hot hatch

[@Nakke144]

It would not stand a chance against the Renault and the Honda.

[@lazarplavsic6499]

Megane the best!!! Bravo!!!

[@93455Driver]

The Honda needs a bigger wing.

[@Earl_VTEC]

no a ducktail www.civicx.com/attachments/setwidthwzi0mdbd-2017-honda-civic-brushed-metal-02-994x529-jpg.41627/

[@kodfish1985]

Said no1 ever

[@nurillialea6004]

@Ezequiel Ridolfi no bigger engine

[@fachannelpokciktapirfk8]

The Honda need the Hondata. 😁

[@AlbertSpice]

It needs two wings in the front, a vortex generator underneath and a w12

[@skylineXpert]

the Megane has indeed shown its worth, even beaten the civic type r on the Nürburgring nordschleife.

[@Jetty095]

skylineXpert but only with Carbon Wheels & it Costs 80000€

[@Nicoztrike]

@@Jetty095 Still almost 5 seconds with a Car that has a lot less straight line speeds says allot about it abilities in the corners an braking zones

[@francouz23]

That megane cost more, than two typeR Has no back seat Has Ohlins coilovers Carbon rims Carbon brakes ... If you will put just 1/10 of the extra money into typer and remove all shit like back seats, it will time the same lap Pour extra €40k into typeR to be a lightweight track beast and it will clock it with 7.35 No respect for renaultsport here, even i prefer megane over civic

[@jamboSAFC]

But the initial type r that went round the ring was the prototype and different than the actual road going version. Horses for courses i say

[@Nicoztrike]

@@francouz23 the type r that did the times was also without rear seats. It also had a Cage, No aircon fitted and a lot other Bits we didnt hear about when they did the time. And as stated above the type r is a lot Quicker on the straights. And on the ring there is a lot of straights. Wich makes the trophy r time Even more impressive. Also you can buy the actual time beater Car. You can not buy the record Honda.

[@arnodorian5527]

what happen when they put a 2.0 engine in this monster Oo

[@Blahblahblah290]

I thought REN-O was a shorter way of saying REN-ULT

[@rowanlewisuk]

Can’t believe you sacked tiff

[@papinoxxx3854]

Megane top❤❤

[@RohitGulati309]

Is that Karun chandok ?

[@mylifeasmanta]

yes

[@ramzikamel781]

Bring the trophy with more power and powerful brakes 👌

[@yordantomov3974]

Like new,too many cars out there are good and fast but we care what is happening in year or two or in 5 years.You don't drive like this every day. Honda is unbeatable!

[@R33C3.]

2:39 that sounds wrong

[@adamellison7422]

🤣

[@yantimegawati4906]

l love civic type r ❤

[@rafap2740]

type R will be faster in large track but in small track megane will be more agile. Both car are very good. I buy type R but I like megane RS too.

[@salvadorverduzco9618]

RS MÉXICO 💘

[@markojagar6658]

You cant comoare tipe r vwizh renault its more expensive

[@hellboydf]

Et la 308 gti alors sa marche fort aussi

[@SebLoeb09Cars]

That Megane RS is a Killer on the track 😱 no other car can complete with the Agility that the megane has 🤗

[@Nicoztrike]

And yet they didnt Even take the trophy model 🙈

[@SebLoeb09Cars]

Nicolai Mølgaard Poulsen True 🤣🤣🤣

[@KrusssH]

Such a pitty Cupra was eliminated in 1st round so unfairly, it would be able to win this comparison.

[@edwinjoseph2163]

clearly not… as these two are the top 2 fwd cars

[@jernejzefran1614]

I know its an older car but I would like to see the new Honda Civic VS Renault Megane 3 RS 275

[@Nicoztrike]

They did it vs the fk2 on auto express a few years ago

[@cymj7909]

Much blabla, open the door in corners, pffff. Not interessing

[@Ziggyziggy1]

Either one would do for me, Probably prefer the Renault looks.

[@sasicuomo9217]

Renault rs sport 🔝👍💜💜💜💜

[@und13s]

Both great cars, one will hold its value more than the other....guess which ? Although the Megane is cheaper to start with.

[@arno222444]

Yes the Megane will hold its value better because the design is good, the Type R is already ugly today a few years from now you will be to ashamed to take out of the garage at all therefore the price will drop.

[@und13s]

@@arno222444 haha....you’re dreaming mate. Honda is built to last, 300,000km’s not a problem. Not ugly, just original. My son is a mechanic, and warns against Renault.

[@FEGTTTSDH]

@@und13s Hahaha a turbo built to last? this is not a 1.6 105hp civic... search about fuel pump and trans problems. The RS normal is not a hold value, but the Trophy it is...

[@und13s]

See which ones are still on the road 20 years later. Honda’s are still banging off the redline way past expectation. Sons a mechanic also and he says the Renault is ok, but get rid of it in 5 years from new, same as BMW and other euros.

[@edwinjoseph2163]

@@und13s yeah we get it mate. your dons a mechanic

[@adrianbunyard6015]

Strange but every other test with both cars like maybe Autocar has the civic down as being miles ahead. Steve Sutcliffe drove them both on track and the civic killed it. He can drive too. I suppose it dont really matter. Both are great.

[@stephenagnew670]

I drove 4 hatches when buying one recently gti megane Honda an jcw mini an the megane got my money def get a manual their brilliant look an sound so much better than the honda

[@alexanderedwards3675]

Some external reviews rave about the Civic Type R having virtually no understeer and comparing it to Porsche's GT4 cars, whilst Renault's 4 wheel steer being a little unnerving for those not used to it (hence why it was dropped from the new Megane Trophy R). Still a fab car though. Also, feel that the other 2 cars (Audi and Leon) shouldn't have been dropped early if they could redeem themselves in a later test Overall though, great reviewers

[@francouz23]

It was dropped from trophy rs because of weight in the first place

[@eyalschnider]

focus?subaru?bmw,mercedes?

[@Zeonoid]

all worse then those two

[@0371998]

Renault must return in Canada, Québec.

[@kylem8811]

Renault will always trump honda in any track race. Honda will obviously be more reliable and better built

[@FEGTTTSDH]

You own a RS Megane?

[@putorickforever]

Not the best version. Replace the rs for a trophy edc

[@marcioferreira2692]

the old man dont ave hands for the type r

[@James-oo1yq]

Honda have went too far with the styling on this Type R, or I am getting old 🤔

[@willotoole4118]

That styling is for the car to grip more so it doesn't need AWD

[@shoji_3440]

@@willotoole4118 were talking about the Massive vomit inducing fake plastic useless front intakes and rear

[@dylansterio3227]

will otoole so that massive rear wing is to provide down force to the front tyres to make them grip better is it? 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@James-oo1yq]

@@willotoole4118 Down force will never really come into affect in a road car, it only becomes effective over around 100mph....and as you're not going round corners at 100mph on the road, all it's doing is creating drag. Down force is never a substitute for 4WD. The previous generation Type R was much more civilised looking.

[@cagednm69]

@@shoji_3440 fake plastic is better weight saving than regular bumper material in terms of thickness.. Every gram saved adds to kilos.

[@RideAfterMidnight]

Yea, I feel this was more on the drivers than the cars.

[@marki6198]

Circuit closed betters focus RS 4x4 ,megane,audi rs3...drag race speed max betters mercedes a45,honda civic type r,bmw m2!megane have new récord nurburgring 7:40.10 win anciend récord civic type r 7:43.80 Anothers cars better use un city..with family every day and fast weekends use no more radicals:yundai i30n,león cupra,peugeot 308,golf GTI!

[@massimoscali7016]

Ma i sottotitoli in italiano. Pero la renault è forte

[@emiliocanada3330]

280 cv vs 320.. bravo Renault buuff la trophy 300 cv buffffff.

[@simonmarsdenmarsden5291]

There's only one problem the rs would break down being French enough said really lol; as where Honda different kettle of fish 👍👍👍

[@budiprakoso7849]

Don't talk nonsense boy

[@OmegaTigerX]

I'm gonna put my money on the Honda Type R where it's gonna last for long years instead of half of it like nissan/renault atrocious reliability. 17 years and no major issues with Honda.

[@ruibernardo5428]

🙈

[@Jeerven]

My tuned 300hp mégane rs 2006 is 13 years old and has never had a issue with the engine or transmission. And has over 105633miles on it. You're just talking out of your ass here.

[@nisrrah8198]

Damn, so many hondas ive had, no problems whatsoever.....

[@boltmix7294]

Nissan's reliability recently had been bad. But Renault's have been WAAAAAY above average, not just in recent years, but in general. RS cars in general have always been more reliable then their Honda counterparts But i guess you have to be delusional in order to justefy being a Honda fanboy

[@OmegaTigerX]

@@boltmix7294 I don't know you're living under a rock or something but it's since the year 2000 nissan had issues. Usually a merger says it all and since 2017 mitsubishi joined the fray they are just copycats of honda engines but half the life expectancy of honda. Lada in it too what a farce. Plus there's still talk about merging with FCA that plunged 33%. To me all of this, is just dust accumulating under the rug.

[@Elcactouss06]

Why not take the Megane Rs Trophy ?

[@an0ny399]

Cause it would smoke the civic and it wouldnt be fair 😂. The standard megane rs 280 is already much faster than boy racer's toy

[@mylifeasmanta]

And also because it costs 72000 pounds. Jason said at the start that these hot hatches had to be around 30 grand.

[@Nicoztrike]

@@mylifeasmanta No. You Are takling about the trophy-r. Thats a totally different Car to the trophy. The trophy is a rs cup with 20 more HP, lighter wheels and brakes. And Costs 31500 where the normal rs is 30000

[@PureLeeful]

This test was done before the Trophy was available.

[@lauremalleval5816]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqK9oHyur7uBgNE 😂😂😂😂😂 because trophy is slowest compare the 280! 😂😂😂😂 with same pilot type r is better than trophy 300 with s007 tires! So this test is ridiculous. 😂😂😂😂

[@Philbyyyy]

wheres the N

[@Samenotter]

in terms of straight line performance the n isnt as good as theese 2 but the cornering on the i30 N is amazing trust me

[@dg115]

Honda will last longer and hold its value more.

[@ripptorr]

That's not so sure.. Look how much a clio 182 trophy is worth now. And a megane r26 is not that cheap either. We will have to see

[@dg115]

@@ripptorr build quality is better on the honda

[@ripptorr]

@@dg115 it is and it will probably always be. But that's not a decisive factor when it comes to value over time

[@dg115]

@@ripptorr I think it is when it's not needing to be repaired every other week.

[@skippylegrandgourou2069]

What are you talking about ? Check Clio V6, M3RS R25 or R26. The same thing for Alpine ... unless you are asian it's weird to drive an asian car if you are white. In Canada ppl teased me because i had a Sub B4 and i'm white ... my French M3RS is illegal in Canada so i am fucked. I bought a Taudi S4 what a piece of shit lol.

[@valentinadrian188]

megane rs my favorite

[@nixodian]

Performance practicability reliability,CTR wins

[@Jeerven]

Renaults having bad reliability is just a old stereotype.

[@FEGTTTSDH]

Reliability? stop to call a dCi renault

[@user-mw3op7dz3d]

Civic type r super

[@tomec5980]

Renault the best

[@Botilus]

Au delà de la course c'est surtout la durée de vie de la Megane par rapport à la Honda, ça fait pitié 😂

[@georise922]

On parle de course là 😂

[@izanhafiz1256]

Race!!!!

[@sasicuomo9217]

Renault❤️

[@Earl_VTEC]

HONDA :-D

[@giuseppealvo589]

@@Earl_VTEC renault top!!!!!!

[@sundeepubhi]

The civic is very well engineered, however I just can't get past the look of the thing. Renault reliability is of concern. Recently got a Hyundai i30 n, and I have to say, its absolutely brilliant!

[@AqueleDoHonda]

My dream car the Civic type r !