Honda Commercial vs. Residential Mower | HRX217 & HRC216

In this video we discuss the pros and cons of the Honda HRC216 Commercial vs. the Honda HRX217 Residential. From experience in the field using the equipment, we are able to tell you the things you need to hear before purchasing your next mower. We hope you enjoy our video, and if you have any questions please feel free to comment below and be sure to subscribe.
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[@abdelazizsqualli1004]

Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower kzbin.infoUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.

[@peterthomas5792]

Great no-nonsense video, covered all the essentials with no fluff.

[@72ragu]

Thank you. This is extremely helpful. You answered ALL my questions!!

[@opensourcedev22]

Holy hell what a great review. Everything that I needed to know right here

[@americoestrada2355]

Our local lawn mower technician says if you're going to use your lawn mower everyday daily 5 days a week you have to have to buy commercial,but if you're only going to mow your lawn once a week then yes go ahead and buy the cheaper one. And these guys know they see these machines coming in and out of their shop's everyday that they have to fix this guy's work on Hondas sthil's echoes Husqvarna. been in the business for 49 or so years. Old Asian guy very nice man and intelligent

[@spencerbird1273]

Great video buddy!! I own a Honda HRX 217 myself, bought last year. Such a great mower for starting out in lawn care and landscaping! Some well said points in regards to both mowers!

[@BigRandyR]

Thanks for the video. I was planning on buying the commercial one this week but the adjustable handle is a MUST for me. Awesome vid...

[@michaelmactavish1728]

im planing getting a honda shaft driven mower my self too

[@dansivertson]

Outstanding review. So great to get a professional opinion on these mowers!

[@Referee583]

Thank You! What a great simple video from a legitimate landscaper.

[@songlenghak5856]

watched this in 2018. You sir WENT over everything. TY

[@cliftonmadden1992]

Thanks for the great review! Planning to buy the HRX for cutting my yard.

[@danieldargis7429]

Just bought an HRC and you confirmed i made the right choice :) thx, nice vid.!

[@michaelmactavish1728]

yeah the hrc 2163hxc shaft driven 9.9hp and hrx2173hzc has 12.3hp shaft driven units im looking at getting both or 1 and one kubota wgc 6-21

[@southamericanredneck9471]

Thank you, very informative.

[@Ranger42]

Outstanding review! Answered all my questions and prepared me for my purchase. Thanks!

[@25-8]

which did you buy?

[@Ranger42]

The lower-end commercial HRC-216PD. Figured that I will get more years of use

[@hunkydude322]

i bought the HRC model back in 1993 and still works great an awsome mower.

[@cahg3871]

You pointed out very important issues-great review.Thanks.

[@hiredexpectations9037]

For anyone reading comments the hrx is a great mower if your servicing annual contracts say on commercial accounts or even residential where your contracted to mow when it is wet and rainy. The hrx light weight ruts a lot less that the hrc and does a fine job bagging. I would recommend any company having a couple hrx mowers for use on those wet days or as a backup mower.

[@beb1527]

Thanks for this video. I also have 2 Honda mowers: HRR and HRX. Like the commercial mower in this video, I can use the HRR as a vacuum because it also bags really well. So well that you can run it on the sidewalk and it will pick up any debris left from edging. At the same time, I find that I have to empty the bag way too often. Since my mowers have the same gas tank size, I can comment about fuel use between the two engines. The HRX will run about 1.25 hours on a tank full, while The HRR will run about 1.75 hours on a tankful. The HRX is a better all around mower in my case but I am glad I have both.

[@tonym6920]

Great video, thanks for sharing your expertise! 👍👍

[@robertbrosa9578]

Thanks for an excellent video. It helped me a great deal.

[@mannymotamarry40]

Awesome video! Rocks!! I am a consumer, researching to decide between the commercial vs residential...price was not an issue but I like to get the best machine. Your video provided precise info without fluff making decision making very simple. I never leave reviews online, but your video motivated me to leave one. It helped me make up my mind to buy the Residential model for the ease of handle adjustability, weight as I have to mow uphill. Thank you!

[@womacksaffordablelawncare6711]

Hi. I owned and operated a lawn care business for the past 4 years. I own both the commercial 216 and the consumer hrx 217. I love them both. The benefit of having a 217 is that if you're mowing fescue type grass, it doesn't leave a heavy track mark in the lawn. The commercial 216 is considerably heavier than the 217. I personally use the commercial most of the time because of the daily abuses I give it with all the mowing I do. the 217, being plastic, will not sustain the daily abuses of commercial work. Yes, the 217 is half the cost of the commercial counterpart but if you're mowing 5 plus houses per day, you'll need something with a bigger air filter and designed to last.

[@GradyWhite2007]

I've got the residential one..and It's bad ass! I use it for just my lawn....

[@portiabenson1945]

I have both and they're both great. Nice review.

[@larrydykes7643]

Wow great review! Thanks!

[@stevewestbrook7025]

Great video sir. I've done tons of research on the Honda mowers and the HRC216 mower uses a commercial GSV160 engine with ball bearing supported crankshaft and conventional crankshaft driven camshaft/push rod/overhead valve design. The HRX and HRR mower uses the GCV160 or GCV190 engine with an internal crankshaft driven timing belt/overhead camshaft design. While the CGV engine does not have a ball bearing supported crankshaft, the design has been around for almost 20 years so it's obvious Honda has designed a proven and reliable engine while maintaining an internal timing belt design.

[@timpmuldoon736]

Great Review you made up my mind up on which model to purchase.. 👍🏻

[@wadewilson5296]

both are great mowers. you can't go wrong with either one.

[@J.R.in_WV]

That gsv residential engine has a rubber cam belt and plastic camshafts, whereas the commercial engine is the tried and true gx series with steel pushrods. One is designed to last 3 or 400 hours where the gx will last thousands

[@WachdByBigBrother]

That was a great video comparison. Helped me make up my mind. How each would be physically used was very helpful. A manual can't tell me that.

[@cl1188]

Awesome video!!!!!

[@pdiddy823]

Thanks for your time, but I feel the review fell way short. I feel there was a lot of info left out versus what’s been read. They both have dual blades? Auto choke? Bigger engine but does HRC has consistent better torque? Is there any bog down under same stress??

[@jimmyt5241]

Is the cut still real good without the bag ? Also would this help me pickup the leaves , i was thinking for the fall for the small yards instead of blowing the leaves in piles and tarps. could i just use the mower to get the majority of leaves up while I'm cutting ?

[@shyneenose]

Very informative.

[@anthonysamra7777]

Great Vid!

[@newjerseybt]

I have 2003 HRC216HXA and the problem for commercial use that is the bag is way too small. Every 200 feet on a heavy lawn requires it to be emptied which will cut into productivity. I use the optional side discharge but the problem with that is throwing weed seeds. The height of the commercial non-adjusting bar is critical. I am 6'2". If the wheels are not adjusted evenly from front to rear the handle will be 1" lower than normal. This will kill your back over an 8 hour day or much sooner if you have a bad back. One more point. I believe the newer Honda hydrostatic mowers have a faster ground speed than my 2003 so that will help with productivity. Problems so far over 16 years is the drive shaft now needs replacement and the bad gas manufactured today required me to overhaul the carburetor which was full of saw dust looking particles.

[@javila1000]

really like your videos. Witch is a better 21in mower the honda commercial or toro commercial lines. thanks

[@bkhitech1]

Thanks for doing the video. Any comments about the drive system? We bought a Honda from a box store and had continuing issues with the cheap axle shaft / drive design. Wheels would continuously drag when pulling the mower backwards.

[@meierlawncare1519]

how much worse is the mulching on the commercial unit? I am in need of another commercial small mower and am shopping around. Going 21 this time instead of 30, and do a TON of mulching in the summer. We pretty much only bag really tall yards and spring / fall clean ups.

[@jack902902]

Great comparison. I am not looking for a mower, but I know this is always something I want to know: what are the differences, does it perform better or is it just more durable. Thank you for this and hopefully there will be more!

[@mowguy1]

I have been a Honda fan too, I have bought 3 over the years from a big box store. They cut great but the transmission would go out so I bought the commercial Honda. I don't really like it but after using it for the last 3 years the transmission is still strong, win some lose some.

[@ewes1541]

Actually a very good video

[@thetruthchannel4634]

Great video. I’m off to buy the residential.

[@55bcatt]

The HRC 216 has a lot more torque than the HRX217. I run both and your review is pretty spot on. The only thing I'd add is that the residential HRX217 will not last nearly as long as the commercial 216. It's just not built the same. We get maybe 2 season out of the residential before things start falling apart on them. Nice video.

[@bobbietaylor7771]

How many customers do you utilize the residential mower with?

[@hostilityy]

only 2 seasons??? what brand and model of mower are you using? or you're mowing an entire city per year? or just talking outta your ass?

[@erickgomez1798]

If you used the HRX217 as a commercial using it around 8 hours everyday mowing residentials then that’s why it lasted on you 2 years only if you want something for commercial use then you have to get the commercial one.

[@temujinkhan6326]

@@erickgomez1798 It is still better to get the residential. what is the point of paying twice the amount if the reason is that it will last twice as long? I would rather pay half the price and replace it every two years.

[@carl3233]

the honda has cast iron cylinder sleaves commercial and the residental does not. a very big difference.

[@EgoDragon1988]

The HRC model I owned had a nearly bulletproof construction. My complaint is as you said, engine power. Self Propelled mowers should always have 180cc plus ohv or ohc engine. I spent way too much time bogging down while mulching with the HRC. If Honda made two improvements it would be be the ultimate 21 Improvement one- put a GSV190 or create a GXV190 for this thing. Improvement two- a choke switch on the engine instead of a cable on the handle...with a blade brake you dont need the convenience of a cable that stretches and requires being adjusted. If Honda made a GXV190 then bye bye to Kawi fj180, Briggs, 8.50, and Kohler xt

[@andybub45]

The Briggs really isnt a commercial engine anyway. But i agree, I wish Honda would put commercial engines and engines in general into more equipment.

[@Uunbun]

Nice video man!

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

Thanks man

[@electriccuts]

I like the video editing

[@frank392]

Great Video Thank you! just one question, do they come with the same transmission?

[@mikek24a]

frank392 although both use hydrostatic transmissions, the commercial unit uses a much more robust (especially internally) transmission than the residential unit. Residential unit uses pulley and belt drive vs the commercial's direct driveshaft (yes, like a car's CV axle) connected directly to the motor.

[@joej.4170]

I just purchased the HRC216HXA lightly used for $600 online. If your mowing wet grass GET IT. It will suck up anything it goes over, period. Leaves, pine needles, tall grass, wet grass, it bags extremely well. I mean the bagger is like 2 times the size of a normal mower. Saves time, money, and cuts the best I have ever seen. The only negative is its heavy has hell, for a female it would be hard to handle. Im 6'3" 220lbs so its easy for me, but it weighs over 125lbs. the HRX217 has the kevlar or plastic type deck, which isn't bullet proof, it cracks if your hard on them. If your using the mower commercially I would go with the HRC.

[@mrhanky5555]

Joe Jirak that deck will not crack. I be seen them drive minivans over them

[@commonsense955]

Bought a new Honda HRX217HZA (electric start, 21") gas hydrostatic w/roto-stop. Followed the manual (probably my 12th mower). Electric start worked twice, then battery appeared to be discharged (just like the maual said it would). Tried the pull start: not going to happen> would not budge. Thought could be a hydrostatic lock or cracked ring or frozen/locked blade clutch or ???Pulled the spark plug. engine spun easily. Put the plug back in, locked still. Since the mower didn't come with a charger, had to order one and still waiting. Would like to get the mower running. Any thoughts on why it is locking up? I did a search and found that model online at a big box store and in the reviews with 1 or 2 stars only, there were MANY others with the same issue. Also, even though it only ran for about 5 minutes, there was more engine vibration than I would have expected and the throttle surged the entire time. Any ideas; or, should I just return it? Thanks in advance.

[@santosgalvan6076]

What about operator fatigue? I've found that in areas where you have to be pulling the mower back commercial mowers tire you out. I've operated the toro commercial 21" and I was exhausted at the end of the day. I preferred my cheap Troy built that I got free.

[@jhorsty]

Great review here,I just bought a HRX217 from a local authorized shop,and traded in my HHR which performed well. Residential owner,but this is a significant upgrade,looking forward to trying it out,still in the box!!

[@7younggoldy4]

I service 150 residential lawns. I have and use both mowers. If you doing commercial definitely go with the 216. It's a reason why it cost more. I love the 217 it's a great mower. But when it's being ran on average of 50 times a week in a years time it will be beat up much more then the 216.

[@officialpoa3171]

Thank you

[@NicoBellicification]

I bought the commercial one. I wonder if the HRC 217 goes faster? I know the lighter weight would help me a lot.

[@raguellagrande7344]

I buy residential for my lawn care. I buy replacement when they go on sale or clearance in the fall and sell last year's on marketplace in the spring. It will last still for years for a homeowner. I do this for my trimmers and often my blowers. I also do this for my Snowblower but different times if years. No one buys snowblowers in early spring but me lol and I sell on the first big snowfall right next to my services

[@rigocornejo6003]

Hey body you can always edit your audio in audacity the program is free and it makes a really good job removing background noise and increasing the volume of your voice. The system is really easy to learn to.

[@spercoco]

What about the Honda HRR216PKA?? What is the difference between that and the HRX217?

[@enviouslandscaping8304]

You put this video out right on time. I been trying to decide on which mower to get. I have the HRX217 and I love it. Like you said very dependable. The electric start is not needed at all. It starts first every time for the last 3 years. I think I will probably go with another HRX217. The commercial one is slightly out of my reach. Great review and comparison.

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

Glad the video could help you decide!

[@mowerman3717]

Envious Landscaping How does the transmission hold up. I've bought a couple of the cheap Honda mowers that you can get for $399 and they're transmissions go out in about 3 months everytime.

[@jaybrown29]

Sorry I know you are really busy Can you please tell me which mower you like best. The Ybravo or the turfmaster or exmark 30. I need a new mower and I’m waiting to hear from you because I know you know the struggles of the 30s. Would you recommend the Ybravo over the 30s

[@safarygirl]

Ambro's Landscaping Inc. Hi ..this is an old video but I hope not to late to ask.I was thinking to buy this commercial machine there is one left at a dealer here in NJ..but it is for home owner use..bad idea ? The handle does not fold..will it fit in an suv? ?

[@patwma709]

Big help! Thanks!

[@JFPriest]

Remember when they were called the "Honda Master" ?? I have used Honda Movers (HRX 215 217) in my mowing Business (For over 30 years)..Sadly about 7 years ago they changed the wheel/tire design. No longer do they have an actual tire on the wheel. Instead they just have a glued on Tire skin..First year using this the Skin came off. Took it back to where I purchased it. Showed them what happened. He was in touch with Honda..They warranted the first of his claims.(Yes he had quite a few on the new purchases)..Honda eventually told him the Tires were coming off due to Abuse..(Hitting curbs) and the dealer refused to do anything..I told him to go pound sand.. Honda's have gotten cheaper built over he years.. Which bothers me and they do not listen to customer complaints. Oh and BTW please use Ethanol Free gasoline in all your power equipment. All of my shop mechanics from Echo to Honda recommend using Ethanol Free Gasoline instead of E Gas and a stabilizer.. Huge companies who buy new every year will just use E gas..But for someone like me who cuts 15 accounts on top of a full time job..Was told using Regular gas without Ethanol is way better for the equipment in the long term.

[@Alaska610ish]

JFPriest Thank you. My Echo guy just gave me the bad news after only 2 years of use. That gas is destructive!

[@JFPriest]

@@Alaska610ish I also use ECHO Red Armor Oil in all of my 2 stroke machines... Great stuff.

[@d_dizzie_druck5753]

I bought a HRN Honda last year, so far so good. My helper swaped the wheels out on it before i could even started it for the 1st time😂 i have a custom set of non marking rubber tires on mine. Plastic wheels suck, & now that i have these special mower wheels i doubt i could ever go to stock wheels on a mower. lol

[@jonesey1981]

​@@d_dizzie_druck5753 Link to the wheels you got?

[@d_dizzie_druck5753]

@@jonesey1981 I got them from my local dealer. I'll do some searxhing whenever i have time, & see uf i can find them on the internet somewhere

[@joeraptor1]

Fabulous video. Which model does better when bagging wet grass/leaves? How about speed? Which one seems to mow quicker? I have an exmark 21". It bags great in any condition but doesn't mulch too well. I was thinking of replacing it with one of the two hondas in your video but wanted to get some feedback first.

[@WachdByBigBrother]

Gee, I wouldn't replace the one that bags well. I'd get another that mulches well and keep them as a pair. I'm not a professional but just saying.

[@d_dizzie_druck5753]

I bought a Hrr last year bagger, mulch, & well some what discharge lol. I wanted to have all 3 options without buying an add on. I was tempted to spend the extra $ for the commercail HRX but after watching some reviews it almost seems not worth it. Might buy a 2nd Mower but will try an HRX next time.

[@FastFredsGarage]

Have you used the HRX to mulch without the bag? I have the HRX and when I mulch without the bag, I end up with log rolls at the end of each run because grass clippings make their way past the flap and into the chute. Factory said all their mowers with the slide do this. I just ended up taping over the chute.

[@1vw4me]

Adjust the back knob to "mulch", and you won't be rear-discharging logs! DUH!!!

[@FastFredsGarage]

@@1vw4me DUH! I guess you didn't really read my original post. But that's ok.

[@geelongmowing9919]

I love my HRX217 but have trouble with the rear wheels jamming when pulling back sometimes. Do you get this?

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

+Geelong Mowing Yes I have had the same situation but on the HRC216. If you have adjusted your transmission cable at all that could be the problem. Either tighten or loosen the cable until the wheels are not locking up anymore. Adjust the cable up where you engage it by the handle bar, not the transmission. Hope this helps.

[@25-8]

hey Jason, can you now a small lawn with the hrx 217 bagged just to see how well it does? I'd really appreciate it brother, just on the verge of buying one at home depot it's $730 is that a good price. Love ur videos as always mann.

[@kevina4674]

I just left Home Depot and they had this same basic model just a little different handle and it was 599

[@ZachNMcCall]

Thank you for the review. I have been debating on which Honda to get. Been trying to find the difference between the commercial and 217 mower. I like you pointed out the height adjustment that is huge I am 6'5" ex UW Offensive Lineman nothing wears you out faster than finger tip controlling the mower all day. I tend to mulch most of my accounts that is a key factor i like how you pointed out with is better. Only thing not covered that I am curious about is the bag... Is one larger than the other?

[@punkiedoodle0]

I have had a HRA216 since my father passed in 2013 and he had it years before. It has never had a problem. My helper ran over a steel pipe. Should I repair it or try and move up to the HRC? The repair shop wants me to buy and HRN. Any advice.

[@towboatjeff]

You can replace the crank in these Honda engines pretty easy.

[@mtnmotoadv]

I just picked up an HRC216 off craigslist for $300, about 2 years old. It's a little beat up but for 1/4th the retail price I figured it was a decent deal. Should hopefully last me a year or two, seems pretty well built

[@mylenh]

im getting ready to drop some shmoney on a new mower. howd the used mower hold up?

[@mtnmotoadv]

@@mylenh It worked out really well. I used it for about 1.5 years and then went out and bought a brand new HRX217 and kept the HRC216 as a backup. When it comes down to it I prefer the HRX because of the nexite deck makes the mower significantly lighter and easier to maneuver but the HRC is a tank that still starts right up.

[@kdaltex]

@@mtnmotoadv nexite deck also cakes less than the metal deck and is easier to clean.

[@mtnmotoadv]

@@kdaltex AND you never have to worry about it rusting, which is a huge plus for longevity

[@temujinkhan6326]

@@mtnmotoadv the mower will break and deck will become worthless. I actually had two decks crack but I still prefer them than the commercial deck

[@scottfreeman528]

How about the self propelled function?

[@stevenflores2038]

I think that the are both good mowers

[@emailjoihnq]

You are the most imformative video out for this comparison, Thumbs up. I am actually comparing apples to apples for price, HRC216 pda vs HRX217. I am not looking to fix too much and like the simplicity of the push powerd one, less to maintain. Also nervous that it is discontinued, I think; and they will come out with a 190cc commercial right after I buy the 160..Which one would you choose now that price is equal? Can you please break this issue down for me? Want to buy once for a good long time.... Thanks in advance

[@josephcollins3447]

And yet they still sell them 8yrs later.

[@mowerman3717]

Hey, I've been through a few of the Honda HRR216's. They cut great, fire up in one pull, and the transmission srarts strong but gives out after a few months of daily use. What is everybody's experience with the HRX's and HRC's. Do thier transmissions hold up strong for years or are what? Appreciate the info.

[@PBhawaiiTLR200]

Great mowers w easy start & hard-to-stall motors but sucky trans/wheel design. Notice the abundance of vids on Honda trans/self-propel problems.

[@dr.crentist3155]

The HRC will solve all your problems

[@sahmadi1000]

You are really fantastic. thank you. I had just bought the HRX217 and I love it. I learned a lot from your presentation.

[@luisbarraza7066]

sahmadi1

[@dvdfrnzwbr]

I believe the Commercial mower has a direct drive shaft to the transmission where the residential has belt drive

[@creatingmind4910]

These both have the direct drive hydrostatic transmission. The residential one tends to be bought with the belt driven transmission tho

[@DonJuan-lg8vk]

I can get a used HRC 216 for 250$ , should I buy?

[@jrd8782]

Hrc216 all day

[@montanabased4152]

What people often don't look at is the engine build or quality of materials. The commercial mower has the GX160, which has a forged steel crankshaft and is supported on ball bearings. The noncommercial is a cast piece. The commercial has a cast iron piston sleeve. I'm not sure on the non-commercial.

[@benjamindavis5762]

Ambros! I have a business and I can afford either mower but I exclusively mulch only. Which do you recommend

[@GwinnettLawns]

The HRX 217 is what I use and only mulch, never bag.

[@stevecarr1992]

@@GwinnettLawns - Thanks for commenting. Did you consider the commercial, or maybe they don't even sell them anymore. I like the idea of a shaft drive. Apparently, the commercials have a better trans., and silky smooth bearings in the wheels. I'm in the market for one, and wish for 2020, they had one with all the benefits of both, all in one unit, with a little stronger engine.

[@GwinnettLawns]

@@stevecarr1992 I think the transmission is the same but how the power gets there (belt or shaft) is the different. I am almost positive the transmisison part numbers are the same. The commercial one has a weaker engine and holds more fuel but is much heavier. The main reason I got the HRX is because it mulches better and thats all I do with that mower, never bag.

[@CenterTree777]

Is the HRX217 able to be used without the bag? Can it side discharge?

[@25-8]

CenterTree777 neither can side discharge, but the hrx217 doesn't require a mulching plug just move the lever to set it to mulch. You can choose how much u want to bag or mulch, both have rear discharge. I don't know if there is a side discharge chute kit for the hrx but there is one for the hrc and it's huge meaning big cutout for the clippings to side discharge and not get clogged

[@patrioticamerican6414]

What does residential and commercial mowers mean and what’s the difference

[@spercoco]

Hi. Thanks for making this video. I'm pretty much still confused lol. I know there is a Honday HRR216 PKA I see in places but I have not seen a HRX217 so that is my first confusion. Most of my customers I mow bi-wekly so I do about 20 to 30 lawns a week and it's just me (no helpers) so I am finally looking to get a commercial mower after years of using residential consumer mowers but I am confused as to what to get. Everyone tells me something different. I have to say that most of the lawns I do are not straight and flat; there are curves, hills, slopes, etc...so I am not crazy about self-propel type mowers for a couple of reasons: for one thing I turn a lot, go backwards, etc....I think the self propel is only good for long stretches. The other reason is they always seem to stop working (the self propel mechanism) so then it ends up being harder to push instead of easier. They are also more expensive and then finally I like doing the pushing so I get my exercise. OK well I guess that is more than two reasons lol! but do you have a recommendation for a mower for someone like myself?

[@kevina4674]

I know this is a year ago but I like the yard machines at Home Depot!!!! They are 200 bucks and cut very nice! Been beating on one for 3 years now and always starts on the first pull! Only pice on it that I broke and had a hard time finding was the pull cord attachment. Other then that for 200 bucks you can't beat it! I guarantee you if I cut a lawn right next to one he cuts with one of these you wouldn't know a difference! Are these better? Of course they are! But you want something to do a good job at cutting but don't want to drop 600 the yard machine is the way to go!

[@thelastmiddleclass2490]

I actually always keep a non self propelled mower with me, and my absolute favorite is my snapper. I found a old snapper commercial on craigslist (steel wheels) and put a commercial bag on it, and repowered with the commercial honda engine. It's perfect

[@spercoco]

@@thelastmiddleclass2490 I've been through so many mowers and other lawn equipment that my profits are way down so I'm getting out of the business entirely. Don't know if it's because they just don't make machines good any more or if it's the gas or just my bad luck or a combination of all of the above but I've already spent over $2,000 in repairs just this year and the season just started. I therefore have two Toro Time Masters for sale for anyone interested.

[@dv8tor677]

Hi does anything in your opinion mulch better then an hrx

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

To be honest with all of the mowers I have used nothing mulches like the HRX

[@killstrees]

I love Honda mowers. I have a hrm215 that is basically a hrx217, but older and without the mulch director thing. Sadly, it is broken. Has a slightly bent crankshaft, so it vibrates real bad when idling or not mowing and the cut quality kinda sucks now. It also has a leak, probably from a seal around the block somewhere. I would like to fix it, but about the time I fix it, I could have bought a new one. I do have another Honda, not sure what it is, but it is a lower model that is ok. Gets the job done, but I miss using the hrm215. I am surprised to find that you like the weight of the hrc, as most people say it's too much and leaves ruts. I find that like the hrx, my hrm leaves horrible ruts (I think they water it way too much), especially in one client's yard when I have to bag. I would mulch it, but they don't want that, so I guess I will have to do what I have to do. I hope to get an hrc someday though. They just look like a beast of a machine compared to the cheap plastic deck machines. Just wish they would make the engine bigger...

[@Alaska610ish]

I’m tall, 6’-10”, which Honda HRX217 do you recommend for starting out. I want the adjustable height and the ability to fold up. In 2 years I’ll buy a commercial one.

[@JFPriest]

Get the model with the Hydrostatic Drive... $750(Ish)

[@JFPriest]

The commercial model is really heavy...Also stay away from the electric start..(Waste of $$)

[@yoursocialmediaman9196]

Have you reviewed any cordless/electric mowers? thanks

[@JFPriest]

I will save him the time..Buy Gas engine mowers..

[@yoursocialmediaman9196]

JFPriest Electric models like Ego are superior. At least for residential. Zero maintenance and you can listen to music or have a phone while operating. Low noise.

[@JFPriest]

@@yoursocialmediaman9196 (Are Superior) ..Then next come the conditions...(At least for residential)...Cold weather, Wet/damp grass..Higher grass, Leaves with grass..I like Hydro carbon powered eco mowers...

[@grasssmith-lb7nx]

good

[@appleztooranges]

What about wheels?

[@BigHomie030]

thanks for the tips. would like too see a snapper 7800849 vs honda hrc216 video

[@Jerry-me1fy]

My cheap Craftsman lawn mower doesn't bag grass at all clogs up every 20 ft. So which one of these lawn mowers does the best at bagging grass?

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

From my personal experience, Honda push mowers have always done very well for me. Thick wet grass will be difficult with any mower but I've always trusted Honda.

[@Jerry-me1fy]

@@AmbrosLandscapingInc The ones in the 90s and 80s never had problems bagging grass i remember but now it seems mowers now days are junk

[@Jerry-me1fy]

@@AmbrosLandscapingInc Just bought one and its great bags like a lawnmower supposed to my other one didn't work at all

[@captainron7904]

I just threw away the plastic deck mower it cracked and then started vibrating so bad I thought it was going to come apart. I just bought the HRC216

[@creatingmind4910]

How old was the mower before cracking?

[@JUAN120484]

Hrx217 what engine model

[@hironakirogawa1684]

Supposedly the HRC216 is 3/4th inch minimum height according to the website, not the same as the residential.

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

HEY GUY ANY PROBLEMS PULLING THE RESIDENTIAL IN REVERSE ? WHAT I REALLY MEAN IS DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT SETTING DOES THE DEFLECTOR GET TUCKED UNDER THE DECK MAKING IT HARD TO PULL IN REVERSE ? STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT THEY HAVEN'T INCREASED THE CUTTING WIDTH ON THESE THINGS. ANYTHING WOULD HELP. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE NEW STANDARD AS 25 OR 28. THIS 21 IS JUST BULLSHIT.

[@bennettdarren]

Just an fyi.. the hrx217 with the nexit deck is a limited lifetime warranty. Mine just cracked broke after 8 years and honda will not replace it (claiming abnormal use). The honda rep inspected it via photos my dealer provided (did not inspect in person). I only used it for my personal yard ( 1 acre of lawn for 2.5 acre property). Had the typical rock hits but nothing out of the ordinary. Really bummed that Honda wont stand by their warranty.

[@kvnhmmd]

That kinda sucks. At this point, you can replace the whole mower, or you can buy a shiny new deck for $168-$178 and be back in business. Depending on the condition of the rest of the machine, it's almost always worth it to repair a Honda.

[@bennettdarren]

@@kvnhmmd I did even better I bought a dead mower for $50 and used it to replace the deck.. plus was able to part out some of the pieces. But I still won't buy a new mower with the Nexit deck. Honda and the dealer left a bad taste in my mouth after being a loyal purchaser for 20 years.

[@jlbueno0611]

Basically, buy the commercial of your workers or yourself are gonna cut the grass and wont care about cut angle and will be smashing that thing everywhere like a dumbass... If you are gonna use it with good workers or yourself who actually care for the machine and for cut style and ways , definitely buy the residential since it has more power and way better quality 👍

[@jenniferjacobsen3670]

Buying decision and need a little help. Snapper commercial 21 with honda gxv 160 $809.00 vs. Honda hrx217 hya $729.00. Currently have a worn out honda hrm215 2spd that the motor is shot. To bad the hrx mowers can no longer be had with a manual throttle/choke and commercial engine. Seams as though most mowers now are cheaply made and come with chinese junk engines.

[@AmbrosLandscapingInc]

Jennifer Jacobsen ya I can agree with you there. I have never personally used snapper, and I have always loved me Honda mowers so I would personally stick with Honda.

[@alexhickey5633]

I have a 1990 mountfield with a briggs 3.5hp which outlasted my neighbours 2003 honda with a 5.5hp

[@alexhickey5633]

As of a month ago i now own a 1986 briggs aswell

[@theactualsalvagedrover]

What’s up with the axles on your trailer? It seems like the only real difference that should matter is easily solved with adding ballast to the front of the 217. I have two 217s, one is an HXA with the blade brake, and the other is a standard three speed. If these are getting hoisted up and into the bed of a pickup, why would I or any of my guys want to lift a steel deck, when you can get the same mower with a plastic one? Also, I would think if the micro cut blade set is sharpened regularly, it should work well on either mower. How about a quick video of the 217 cutting next to the 216, both with freshly sharpened and burnished blades, maybe a ground-level shot of one pass and the same speed and height? That would be pretty definitive. Thanks for your time.