Honda EB2200X Generator Won't Start

[@waynestefinashen239]

Nice to see someone doing it right ie: checking for voltage prior to working on carb issue. A few of our customers have complained of other shops giving them a repair bill for generators after finding out the generator did not generate power and did not notify the customer prior to working on the no start issue. Good job buddy.

[@BrucesShop]

I can't imagine billing a customer for not going it an overall checkup

[@waynestefinashen239]

@@BrucesShop Actually saying the customer got billed for carb work etc. but the shop could not excite the stator to produce power so they didnt check that first like you did. Basically generator got demagged now engine runs but generator useless , guess it could happen but not if checked the way you did.

[@jcondon1]

Nice work. Looks like a well maintained generator. No load, I usually set to 61.5 hertz (3690 rpm).

[@BrucesShop]

You know for me the hertz setting goes out the window when i get to the voltage setting. I don't know how to manage both. ???

[@haneyoakie14]

@@BrucesShop reminds me of a Hertz Doughnut. You get too close to the unshielded spark plug terminal, and get zapped! Hertz Doughnut?

[@BrucesShop]

Can I set both James?

[@BrucesShop]

After the video I turned the RPM down to 3400. Thanks for the suggestions. I should have caught that.

[@TheChaps83]

@@BrucesShop You should set RPM around 3600 for 60Hz and 3000rpm for 50Hz (both for "standard" little 2 poles generator). You can adjust the voltage on versions with AVR regulator, otherwise the voltage is what it is; can't do much about it.

[@navidsoroush8777]

I found a good teacher. So very thankful, learned quite a bit and now off I go trying to figure out why this honda generator only runs on choke in. Thanks!

[@BrucesShop]

My first thought is a carb clean

[@jesusdrummer21]

Love that lift....I like old yellow too. Funny when Bruce speeds it up when he pumping old yellow lift

[@BrucesShop]

Kind of a small trademark now

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? Nice fix on the carb. The little pressure gun you have is nice. I would never have thought to use grinding compound on the needle seat. Take care!!

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks As I have said Ken from Ken's Small engines sent it to me. Nice eh!!!!

[@davidfoulk3078]

Very nice video Bruce, I like how you used the grinding compound on the valve seat to save that carburetor. I would’ve thrown away that carburetor and spent months of frustration tracing down a brand-new one. Sheer genius!

[@BrucesShop]

Well thanks

[@stevoj8959]

That is a pretty sweet unit. Persistence really paid off on that needle and seat, a good lesson for a rookie. Right on Bruce. Stevo

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks Stevo

[@jebsails2837]

"I wid ya" Good to have you back. My favorite oxymoron, served with cocktail sauce, is Jumbo Shrimp. Narragansett Bay

[@BrucesShop]

Perfect.

[@ecttreker9816]

Nice carb work. Easy to see you are no stranger to them.👍👍 Thanks for taking the time to share.

[@BrucesShop]

No problem 👍I appreciate the nice comment

[@billyb351]

I've never seen anyone pressure test the needle and seat. That's pretty cool. I have a little gun like that for brake bleeding. I wonder if it can work in reverse like yours? What kind of tool is that?

[@BrucesShop]

Yes it will 0-30 psi will work

[@gregorypiercesr.794]

Great video Bruce! Lightly grinding the valve seat was risky and u came through 100%!👍👍

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks 👍

[@EllisMowersandmore]

Nice fix as always Bruce! The Honda generators are so nice. Your new thumbnails look great!

[@BrucesShop]

Glad you like them! I had fun sort of LOL

[@johnhouli3450]

Thanks Bruce, great help. Bruce air compressor what type do you use name of it. Is it commercial or just a small one for your garage.

[@BrucesShop]

It is a big old sears model from the 60's I think with a newer electric motor.

[@johnhouli3450]

@@BrucesShop thanks I’m thinking of getting a small one for my garage to put air in my tires when needed and to use for a small stapler any suggestions

[@andersforrad]

Nice one Bruce - you got that Honda run sweet as a nut.

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks a lot for the nice comment.

[@Rob4400]

i like pretty much all the Honda Carbs, way better than Tecumseh. i've some experience with these and when i saw it was not holding pressure, i said out loud, "time to check the seat!". we also have the same set of cordless drills, those black n decker ones are quite adequate for this type of work. and for jet cleaners we just pull a bristle off a dollar store brush, easy and disposable.

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks Rob

[@TCMaine]

Hi Bruce. Great video! Did you add the aligator clip to your RPM meter? Looks easier than wrapping the wire around the HT lead. Thanks

[@BrucesShop]

It came with one actually

[@len4338]

That pressure check is pretty neat. I suppose that the size of your tank and the elevation would make a difference on the amount of pressure required for the needle and seat to hold, huh ?? Anyway nice fix Bruce.

[@BrucesShop]

Since i got the pressure tester i can fix way more things. It was just a plastic seat that needed a little buffing, thanks

[@haneyoakie14]

@@BrucesShop I was thinking that the seat needed attention once the needle swap yielded no change. I’m so proud of myself today. My thought process matched Bruce!! I have learned a thing or 2.

[@BrucesShop]

@@haneyoakie14 Thanks Sir Thomas

[@jp8jeta414]

she's a purrin' like-a kitten, great work Bruce. take care eh!

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks gain. Good to hear from you.

[@garyclifton2180]

Nice fix Bruce and love the bird 🐦 sounds lol

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks Those darn crows

[@gmpsap9393]

Bruce. How many "O" rings are supposed to be on the idle jet of a Honda carburetor? I have not been able to locate a good parts diagram for the idle jet assembly to determine the correct number. There are two grooves. One at the top and one at the bottom of the assembly. I have seen some with only one "O" ring and some with two. Love your channel. Thanks

[@BrucesShop]

To be honest i think there are 2. On my last job (this video) I think there was one but with my old eyes I can't swear to it. sorry I am not much help.

[@gmpsap9393]

Thanks Bruce. Yeah my ole eyes are not what they used to be either. I work on small engines as a hobby for myself, family and friends. I'm really impressed by your knowledge and patience.

[@1djbecker]

I've taken apart several genuine Honda carburetors that show no evidence of having been opened. They had only a single idle orifice o-ring, with a second empty groove. Even if they had been serviced, there were no other parts mangled or missing. It seem unlikely that someone would otherwise carefully service the carb but omit installing an o-ring. It appears that the second o-ring is optional, intended for redundancy or retention rather than carburetor functionality.

[@tinkeringtaylor3053]

Great job Bruce i will send over the carb am working on for my ride on just will not run smoothly,when you removed the black plastic jet did you notice how many rubber seals on it.

[@BrucesShop]

No sorry Nev

[@tinkeringtaylor3053]

@@BrucesShop not a problem Bruce

[@not2fast4u2c]

Put your head on my shoulder Whisper in my ear baby ( Paul Anka )

[@BrucesShop]

You got it Jim.

[@nashguy207]

The Carb Master fixes another one. I am curious why you don't use your ultrasonic cleaner very much.

[@BrucesShop]

Great point! I use it when I can clean them by hand. It is time consuming to heat it up.

[@ebfromwyoming4118]

Great video sir love those honda generators have a great safe weekend sir

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks again. Spacex has been busy this month eh!!!!

[@ebfromwyoming4118]

@@BrucesShop yes they are going crazy 2 pads gives him opprotunity to launch all the time they had the new rocket from nasa on pad doing a pre launch test last week its taller than the 1970s saturn rocket i might have to walk to the beach to see that 1rst launch

[@andyhamilton8940]

Bruce I was just just given a EB1600X Honda. It has a chrome frame. Was the needle plastic or rubber tipped?

[@BrucesShop]

This one was rubber.

[@andyklove]

Bruce who makes the pressure tester you're using at 19:22 and what is it called..

[@BrucesShop]

MityVac is what i have There are a lot of different packages.

[@davessmallenginerevival2847]

Nice work Bruce 👍

[@BrucesShop]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@orlypalomar]

The RPM is a little high.... should be just around 3600 to get 60Hz, nominal. This is a conventional synchronous gen head and not an inverter. 3700 is as high I'd be willing to go when unloaded. Good stuff with the carb rehab. Though, you were a little too rough on the main jet using the torch tip cleaner. You really don't want to alter the size of the jetting when cleaning it.

[@BrucesShop]

Yes I know that but some of the little honda gensets can go to 3900

[@orlypalomar]

@@BrucesShopyou must be referring to nrwer inverter models. Old school portable gens needs to run at a nominal 3600 RPM so the line frequency stays at or near 60Hz. If you runj that gen at 3900 RPM, the frequency would be 65 Hz. That may cause power tools with a motor to spin faster and draw more current.

[@BrucesShop]

@@orlypalomar OK. Thanks

[@BrucesShop]

After the video I turned the RPM down to 3400. Thanks for the suggestions. I should have caught that.

[@artriumph]

Great video. I always thought that you should not get carb cleaner on a rubber seat as it will make it swell thereby ruining it. Is that true?

[@BrucesShop]

Yes. On one attempt i think I did put the needle in the seat without rinsing it.

[@robertmailhos8159]

A stuck fuel needle seat plus a drity carb is what I think is the problem in the no start probably cause it not to start there Young Man 😎

[@BrucesShop]

Right a very common thing

[@robertmailhos8159]

@@BrucesShop well at least you got it going again 👍

[@normalizedaudio2481]

I wonder if you can make an air filter from these extra COVID masks? It would make a fun video. I think they could work and save money. Just change them more often or it could extend the life of the existing filters.

[@BrucesShop]

That is a good idea.

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

I am curious, does the oiler drip when not in use? I tried a couple different ways to carry fuel for priming but nothing has been ideal.

[@BrucesShop]

The engines will pull gas from the oiler as it goes if it is stuck in there all t he way. Thanks

[@GuysPlayingWithTools]

@@BrucesShop that's a bonus! I tried a spray bottle and it worked but 3 different bottles had the same problem, evaporation from the gas created a tiny bit of pressure in the bottle and caused them to drip.

[@BrucesShop]

@@GuysPlayingWithTools Thank again.

[@Big_Johns]

Nice work and good video Mr Bruce, thank you. 👍

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks Mr Klem.

[@Big_Johns]

Yes sir Mr Pender 🙂

[@Lucky7Graphix]

I have a EB2200x that every time I plug something in to it and turn the power on the motor dies out. What do you think could be causing that?

[@BrucesShop]

Well they all have a low oil sensor. Even if they are a cup low they will do that. I also may need a carb clean,

[@Lucky7Graphix]

@@BrucesShop brand new carb. If I crank the gen with the appliance in the on position it will crank and run it fine. If I crank it then turn the appliance on it kills the engine.

[@scso422]

Looks like you got a new work surface.

[@BrucesShop]

That table I made years ago. i do like it but it does takes up room when not folding

[@jesusdrummer21]

I know nothing about generators. But really interesting....

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks. The are still 1/2 small engines

[@queenstownkid]

coooooooooool

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks again I haven't heard from you in a while

[@queenstownkid]

@@BrucesShop i watch you on my tv

[@joesinakandid528]

Customer just changed oil - !!! - THE very first thing to check.

[@BrucesShop]

You are right. Generators can have a low oil alarm even when down a cup or less. Thanks for the heads up. I check that when they come it. It may not have been on that video.

[@jesusdrummer21]

Lawn mowers. Pressure washers. I can do...so trying to learn more.

[@BrucesShop]

After you get going it is still 90% carbs.

[@jjjuarez312]

Honda top of the line Quality!! Not like the junk we have today!! Sadly it's built by crapy Chinese engineers.. Hondas built by smart highly skilled Japanese engineers!!

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks for the great comment.

[@boonecountygenerators3052]

The Chinese stuff is copies of Hondas, so... it's not about the engineers, it's about workmanship, quality control tolerance and raw materials. It's worth noting that the Chinese aren't copying Briggs & Stratton or Kohler. They know who to cheat off of.

[@MrTehudson]

bruce although you infuriate me sometimes with your video expertise lol i still watch and love your videos you will always get a thumbs up im sure but don't get to confident im not above giving thumbs down if deserved none yet though lol

[@BrucesShop]

It is harder to make a video than one would think.

[@MrTehudson]

@@BrucesShop im just messing with you i would probably make videos showing the ceiling lol

[@BrucesShop]

@@MrTehudson I have been known to take a few shots of the ceiling and the floor too.

[@dannydunnagan3267]

My neighbor has given me an old 5000-watt generator it just needs some loving care.

[@BrucesShop]

Perfect

[@froggie2324]

I have a wire that comes out of the valve cover on my Honda generator 2500 where does that get wired to call anybody tell me

[@BrucesShop]

Is it the low oil shut down? However that wire should come out of the block. You can Google the model #

[@jimmyz9786]

Make sure to check the oil first...dont be like me....

[@BrucesShop]

Thanks

[@haneyoakie14]

What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

[@andyhamilton8940]

Go ask Dan Rather not Bruce.

[@haneyoakie14]

@@andyhamilton8940 I’d Rather not

[@BrucesShop]

@@andyhamilton8940 True I don't worry about it as it is just the throttle that determines the output voltage and the Hertz. They won't run along side the grid. If they are at 61 Hertz it won't mess anything up. A clock will run at one second fast every minute but when using a genset most folks just need juice for a short period of time. James Condon is better at that than i am though.

[@haneyoakie14]

It must be old Honda generator week!!

[@BrucesShop]

Yes. The are the first ones to clog up after the winter of sitting around. Small orifices

[@haneyoakie14]

@@BrucesShop James Condon had an EX1000 yesterday that had not run in 20 years

[@BrucesShop]

@@haneyoakie14 I saw that and will watch it after my comments. Comments take me an hour or so.

[@VishalPrajapati-v1c]

Give me electric fare

[@BrucesShop]

Sorry what is electric fare.