Honda NC750X - vs - NT1100 DCT

[@johnlittle8669]

I have the nc750x love it , did consider changing to the nt but I think the extra weight and height would put me off. Great review very helpful 👍

[@Crohniebiker]

@johnlittle8669 thanks for watching. Since making that video I have changed my NC for the Africa Twin, purely for the ability to carry my girlfriend and luggage. But I did love that bike 🏍.

[@MotoGoato]

Few months ago I picked up a '22 manual NT1100 with just over 9K miles on it, one previous owner ... came with full voyage pack upgrade and some choice aftermarket extras. Paid just over £8K for it and I'm really pleased with it. Already done loads more miles on it in 4 months than I did on my last bike in a whole year. Really comfortable, very practical, outstanding wind and weather protection, plenty of grunty torque .. it destroys long motorway journeys and has handling easily good enough to raise smiles and laughs in the twisties. A grand machine for sure 😊

[@bhtooefr]

A thought re: the NT1100's taller seat height: while it is 820 mm vs. the 2021+ NC750X's 800 mm, it also has 150 mm suspension travel front and rear vs. the NC's 120 mm, and 175 mm ground clearance vs. the NC's 145 mm. (The old NC700/750X was 830 mm seat height, 137-153 mm front depending on market/150 mm rear travel, and 165 mm ground clearance, FWIW.) This means that... raise a 2021+ NC by 20 mm or lower a NT1100 by 20 mm, and the NT1100 still has more ground clearance and suspension travel. Which, if ground clearance and suspension travel *really* matters, the Africa Twin exists, but.

[@Crohniebiker]

@bhtooefr thanks for your comments, I have now traded my NC in for the Africa twin 1100 and so far it's brilliant 👍

[@blackskunk54]

When comparing prices one needs to remember that this bike comes with a lot of things that are normally extras on other bikes. The NT100 DCT is currently £13650, comes with Centre Stand, Heated Grips, Panniers, TFT dash, Self Cancel Indicators and Cruise Control. The NC750x DCT with CS, HG, Panniers is £11301 and has no TFT or Roadsync compatibilty, SCI or CC. Hopefully I aint missed nuffink. I am currently trying to decide between the two, not easy. At 69 with Arthritis I need a comfy bike and having ridden lots of auto or DCT models am sold on that for my next bike. Current bike is a Transalp 750 which is a bit disappointing torque wise, if they did a DCT version I think I would get that. Great review BTW

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for the comments. I agree if the transalp had dct I would have gone for it myself. I might add that after riding the transalp and the NC back to back the NC feels more torque from the off ,however the transalp would pass it once the revs go skyward. For me it's also about maneuvering the bike in and out of the garage too, so that's another reason I bought the NC750X . I love it and it's a very capable bike 🏍 Thanks for watching 👍

[@GJS-live]

For £2K diffference the NT is a no-brainer.

[@frankmccleese5092]

I have an NC ordered, I live in Arizona, USA and they say it may not be in till November or December. Hard to get now they say, really looking forward to it. I’m 74 and very ready for DCT. Like your video’s.

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for the comments. We're the same in the UK regarding waiting time's, It's usually 4 or 5 months from ordering. I was lucky enough to get a cancellation order and I love the bike 👍

[@zakialherz1201]

I ordered my NC back in Oct.2023 and got it in March2024 it is worth waiting for

[@patrickoakes7850]

Really enjoyed your review. I'm also a Honda DCT fan and ride an NC750X DCT. Love my bike but might think of an upgrade to the NT1100 DCT but Honda South Africa don't bring them into this country.Only the AT but I'm not that interested in off road, plus the AT is comparatively top heavy and not worth two NCs ! Recently did a 1200km trip each way on my NC with a one night stopover each way.Went like a dream.😁

[@Crohniebiker]

@patrickoakes7850 thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it. 👍

[@mrsmith697]

You are the same as i..but only in the 17 new bike..the nc in sport level is fast enough for fast overtake..and it have god torque and what i like..have the 2022 nc whit dct and i love it no worries about right gear..drive safe !!

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for the comments,I appreciate it. 👍

[@simonthomas5367]

I’ve got the 2023 NC750X DCT which is an absolutely fantastic bike for my daily ride. Every day, all year round. For touring, the NC is perfectly capable but I also have my trusty ‘98 Pan European! Just for the V4. Awesome bike. Smooth. Quick. Agile. Cheap! 13 grand for an NT? Nope. 3 grand for a Pan which does exactly the same job, minus the DCT, but is infinitely smoother and has bags more character.

[@kevinf-b5065]

I love the NC. Came down from the Crosstourer DCT only because it became too top heavy for me to manage now I'm getting on a bit. NC is a good compromise.

[@Crohniebiker]

I love my NC too ,it's so easy to move around in my garage. I found the torque very impressive too . Thanks for watching 👍

[@colinbarber9324]

Last bikes, CBF1000, VFR 1200 DCT, Ducati Diavil, Aprilia Tuono Factory. In the garage now, Triumph Street triple R, Honda NC750 X non DCT. Why no DCT, last year I struggled to buy a new one due to demand, managed to bag a cancellation non DCT. WHICH IS better, the manual is lighter and cheaper, the auto is an easier bike to ride, you pays your money, take your choice. Which of my two bikes do I ride the most? Honda, nine to one ratio

[@Crohniebiker]

It's good to hear that you've had lots of experience and some great bikes , yet you're go to bike is the NC 👍 Ride safe, my friend Thanks for watching.

[@mal3519]

Good review .I second your thoughts on DCT I think its a remarkable bit of kit . Been out today on my 2023 NC 4.5k miles covered now its a keeper . A great package and fit for me and 76 mpg is a big bonus too .

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for your comments and for watching 👍

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

76mpg? No way? I was regularly getting 99.9mpg from mine and never less than 80mpg. You must be thrashing it!

[@mal3519]

Hi Bib That's what my avg mpg is telling me , the best i have had is 79.9 mpg avg and ride on on back roads mainly and just easy going not going hard . Maybe i should see what happens on the motorway. On a NC facebook forum people report the same figures as mine . @@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

In fairness I am an mpg fanatic. I had my 2015 NC750X-DCT for a year, commuting 55 miles each way from Warwickshire to Derby, and at silly o'clock in the morning with little traffic to worry about. I would sit at 55mph along the M69 & M1 and that is how I achieved such phenomenal fuel efficiency.@@mal3519

[@OperationFoxley19441]

Heavier than a Honda NC 750X but not as heavy as the crossrunner vfr 800x. Great review I would like a Honda NC 750 XL, a bigger brother to the Honda NC 750x as it currently looks too small.

[@straightup1234]

Had the honda pan european til it gave up, keeping eye on this & bmw 1200rt ,

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks for watching, I think the big honda would be a lot cheaper in the long run. Also, it's very well specked up from standard .👍

[@marcus577]

This is now my NT 1100DCT Didn't need to pay for the Voyager Pack as they were getting rid of the 2023 model even registered on a 24 plate.

[@stevek4449]

The answer to critics I would give is that less fatigue from clutch hand and mental fatigue as the DCT would reduce that fatigue. Now in slow turns where it uses rear brake instead of clutch, when one or the other gets worn out, which is cheaper and easier to replace? Rear brake or the clutch?

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes I recently attended the ride to the wall with thousands of other bikes, the DCT came into its own in densely packed slow moving traffic, it made it so much easier. Thanks for watching 👍

[@garethtemple6242]

Interesting comparison. I love my 2023 NC750X dct and the NT1100 seems like the natural progression from my bike. Considering the standard spec on the NT1100 (panniers, centre stand, heated grips, cruise control etc) I think it's pretty good value for money. However, I do find the looks of the NT1100 a bit bland, and the choice of black/ white and grey colours very dull. I think Honda are doing it in a dark red and a matt blue for 2024, which will improve the appeal a bit. Shame Honda don't offer the new Transalp with DCT.

[@Crohniebiker]

yes you definitely get a lot of kit for you're money compared to other brands. As you said ..if only they made the Transalp with DCT .I would have definitely bought one of them instead . Thanks for your comments

[@garethtemple6242]

@Crohniebiker I suspect that the decision not to offer the Transalp with DCT was because Honda doesn't want to take sales away from the Africa Twin. The problem with that is that, of your want the Adventure Sport Africa Twin (the more road based model) with DCT, you have to have the more expensive ES model, which comes out around £17,500.

[@Crohniebiker]

@@garethtemple6242 could be the same reason they don't give you cruise control and tubeless tyres aswell, They don't want to take sales away from the big AT 👍

[@brianbrowne9456]

Best wishes from Oz mate another great review, like all NC owners riding in the ‘real world’ they are close to perfect. Sadly we never got the DCT down here more a pity. On a side note you may have been asked before …. Can I get your camera settings if it is a GoPro I’m a newbie and still experimenting, I have a serious, wind noise, etc. cheers

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes, I have the gopro 8 black I use Activity setting at 2.7k 30 fps and wide-angle I also have the media mod frame so I can plug in an external mic. My microphone is the purple panda one it comes with lots of adapters and it's quite cheap. It's really hard to get decent audio, I've threw out loads of videos due to bad audio. Anyway thanks for commenting and for watching 👍

[@stevenewcombe3414]

I have a newish @NC 750 DCT with the larger screen. Turbulence is pretty bad. Looks like the 1100 is the same. I was interested in your comment on weight. I have a job backing it into my garage. Doubt I would reverse paddle the larger bike. However the video has whetted my appetite.

[@blackskunk54]

Go wider with the screen not higher, try cutting out cardboard shapes to attach to the screen to find the best solution, then cover the card in waterproof gorilla tape once sorted. I did it on my Africa Twin 1000, worked a treat. Let us know how you get on.

[@MrJkfamilyguy59]

Buy a Madstad motorcycle windshield. It's adjustable & awesome on my 2024 Honda NC759x DCT. A bit pricey at $339 US dollars but well worth the investment.

[@liammeistre1]

I have been looking at the NC750X DCT for a little over a year now. I am 28 but been diagnosed with arthritis. The issue I am worried about is I am 6'6, but I want a bike that is easy to ride and not have to worry about gears. I had a SYM 125 Evo back when I was 20 which I enjoyed zooming about on, but because it was Korean made it was hard to get parts to fix. Anyway, really hoping the NC750 can take my height cause I have been really wanting one.

[@GJS-live]

Have you sat on a NC750X? I think you'll be too tall and you'd be better with a used Africa Twin DCT which is a tall bike and suits tall riders.

[@malcolmpatton9314]

Wow that’s a lot of bike ownership I am only on my 5th bike and two of those where actually mopeds from memory and I am 65 my current bike cb500x is 3 years old and now paid for really don’t know what bike would be next need to commute and long distance tour so many great bikes now.when out of warranty always prefer to service and maintain my own cars and motorcycles so that will be the main focus easy to maintain and good on fuel economy.nc750 dct would be great but none in oz currently but I am going to ask Honda dealer if they can find one for me.

[@Crohniebiker]

Shame because the NC is a really easy bike for home service, even the valves are easy to do yourself with the screw and locknut . Good luck hope you get one 👍

[@davidalder6558]

I enjoy your videos. Ask your girlfriend if she would like to return her cell phone and go back to a rotary phone. Just because she learned on a manual transmission does not mean it is the best. My next bike is going to be a red/blue NC 750X DCT and I have had bikes since 1983. Dave from Nova Scotia, Canada

[@Crohniebiker]

Thanks Dave, you make a very logical point with the phone analogy 👍 I think as we get a bit older and wiser, we realise that if a bike is as capable and functional as the NC , it just makes perfect sense 👌 Ps. she's only been riding 5 years, so it's still new to her 🤣 Thanks for watching, I appreciate it 🙏

[@Steen6319]

I own the 2022 NC 750x DCT, but have to say, @ 5:58 really good locking bike for sure. Wfit look so good. If I in 2024 buy this bike I wonder if I can get it a little lower. Same seat-hight as NC maybe? Is that possible?

[@straightup1234]

Good review 👍 love the big tourers

[@karlhoward2737]

It’s horses for course of course, on the surface, I still will stick with my NC….for my needs, from previous bike accident some 43 years ago…my NC just does it for me…I have added a fair few add ins, but then don’t we all….to be honest I have zero complaints….I’ll never change my bike, it’s perfect for puttering around Jersey, with its small narrow roads and 200,000 cars….yes that’s correct….we are limited to max 40mph on some roads, 30 on others, 20 on a few and even 15mph on some green lanes, I find wet mode is perfect for very slow Town riding…..yep it’s the perfect bike for me……ok…..maybe a shaft drive next time hehe

[@Crohniebiker]

I've just caught out in a rain storm ,I remembered about rain mode ! What a nice difference it made it feel much safer to ride in the wet Now I've got to go out and wash my new bike 🏍 ........ Thanks for watching 👍

[@ken3163]

Hey CB loved that one! I have the nc dct all kitted out for touring and like you i think they're a brilliant bike for the outlay. Only issue I have is the suspension which must be nice on the nt. Just out of interest wondered how you rate the inverted forks on your adv compared to the nc or nt for that matter. Great vid thanks very much 👍

[@Crohniebiker]

Mine will be kitted out ready for touring next spring, I've got a few other bits to do first like centre stand, usb hand guards, etc. Yeah, the suspension is a little bit better on my ADV, but it's also not perfect for the UK pot-holed roads. The NT was much better but you should expect that as it's a lot more expensive to buy. Thanks for watching 👍

[@kevinf-b5065]

I have my NC kitted out for touring and also fitted Hyperpro rear shock with Hyperpro fork inserts to curb the dive under braking

[@drandrebrink4227]

Hi there, you can leave it in D. Doesn't do anything. Once the throttle is engaged, the bike moves. Safe riding man. ❤👍

[@michellebroderick311]

Great review, and yes i did say "why would i want a dct when i passed my test on a geared bike ") maybe when im a lot older or struggle to change gear the usual way way, then i will look at the dct. As you know i do enjoy riding your adv 😊

[@Crohniebiker]

You are my number one fan ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@passinthru4328]

You said the NT is quite a bit heavier at 238 kg, the NC is stated to be 235 kg, wet. Maybe I missed something, or the NC feels lighter because it carries its fuel lower and the engine is also weighted lower.

[@Crohniebiker]

Hi Thanks for you're comments According to Honda The NT1100 dct is 238kg And the NC750X isn't that far behind at 224kg However as you say the NC carries it weight so low down that it feels way lighter than it actually is . Thanks for watching

[@sunrisejak2709]

​@@CrohniebikerNT1100 in manual gearbox version is 238kgs. In DCT version 248kgs.

[@blackskunk54]

One needs to be aware that if you add all the OEM extras to the NC750 like Panniers, Centre Stand, Carrier to the same-spec as the NT it could weigh a fair bit more and be much closer to being the same weight or more.

[@stevek4449]

So if you had to ride 1100km in one day, which would be better for comfort your 750, the 1100, or say, Africa Twin, all highway.

[@Crohniebiker]

I'd say if you're planning on doing big miles, get either of the 1100's they are both very similar and have a bit more room . Unless you're a smaller person, then the 750 would be ideal with the stress free low revving engine . Thanks for watching 👍

[@edwardwilson4974]

I’m also a 750 dct owner and I agree with everything said here. I’ve considered the 1100 but I just don’t like it. Too big and boxy. If Honda brought out a 900 version of the 750, I’d go with it probably. And, nah then, I’m also from Notts! Nice video and thank you!

[@alanpassmore2275]

What's cruise control like at 20 as it seams to be 20 everywhere.

[@Crohniebiker]

You must be thinking of wales 😂 I think cruise can only be engaged after 30mph but I didn't try it that low . Thanks for watching 👍

[@patrickmeylemans9627]

Rode them both, the DCT of the NC750X is far superior in my book….

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes I came away thinking the same thing 👌

Old Nc750 user, now NT user, the nt handling in turns and long tour comfort is far superior than nc750. Nc750 was so heavy for its engine and size. So if your are wondering if I should make the change to a nt1100, just dont think and do it. You will thank me later. Instead of dct, I suggest manuel with a quickshifter. But you are the one to decide.

[@Crohniebiker]

Well all things considered, including the price, I have purchased the NC 750x dct and I absolutely love it. Thanks for your comments and for watching 👍

[@SethJayson]

16:36 is that a new feature? Mossie's NT review on Knox he was complaining about the fact that the screen didn't move without stopping and tools!

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes you can move the screen down easily enough while you're riding but you have to stop and get off to bring it back up 👍

[@Geshmaal]

Tbh I think Honda could have saved a lot of R&D money and just stuck cruise control on the NC750X and had a better overall motorway bike. As you noted, the NC has a lower cruising rpm than the NT, it's also a more nimble bike and is more economical. The extra wind protection of the NT is a bit hit and miss too. To me the NT is pretty niche - you sort of need to be too boring for an Africa Twin but then think the NC750 is too slow and you need to accept the additional weight and expense.

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes I felt that there wasn't much difference in initial pull off the torque felt much the same on both bike's, but obviously the NT carries on building power up the rev range where the NC starts to drop off. Both great bike tho! Thanks for watching 👍

[@paulyflyer8154]

Agreed. I almost pulled the trigger on a NC750 last year taking for granted that cruise control was at least an optional extra. Was amazed when I discovered its not. They really missed a trick there, on what is otherwise a good long distance tourer. Yes I know, you don't need cruise control, but once you've had it you do!

[@Crohniebiker]

@paulyflyer8154 cruise would be great considering its at home on the motorway . I think there's a company that makes after market adapters ,as its ride by wire throttle so should just be a software change 🤔 Thanks for watching 👍

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

I think it’s 248kg with the DCT.

[@andrewdyson4255]

It looks like the NT is just a big scooter especially in Dct mode. But it would be a boring old world if we all liked the same things. I was very tempted at one point but found the weight too high up. I bought a bigger heavier bike but better balanced with low down weight in my opinion.

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes that's why i hot my NC750X it's so easy to push around my garage. The DCT is great it's not quite like my scooter which just revs and goes tho, on the DCT you do feel the gears change. It's brilliant. Thanks for the comments 👍

[@SethJayson]

People dismissing the DCT is funny to me. I tried to find the NC manual, but when it became clear they weren't available at all in the US, I was fine with the DCT. After driving for just a few miles I was sold. I'm on the motorcycle to see the scenery, feel the wind and the lean. Yanking another lever with my left hand and fiddling a pedal with my left foot isn't something I miss one bit.

[@Crohniebiker]

I'm exactly the same, I've been riding long enough to appreciate the virtues of not having to mess around with the gear lever. I just enjoy the ride now 👍

[@TedStGeorge]

Honda seem to be going backwards: nice bike but the Pan European had a v4 and shaft drive.

[@Crohniebiker]

I think it's all down to profit now day's, They can make a twin really cheap now, that's why they're so popular across all manufacturers. 👍

[@3DKiwi]

D mode is pretty useless and changes up far too soon, lugging the bike. For regular riding I ride in S1 mode.

[@Crohniebiker]

Is yours the pre 21 model ? After that year, they had Sport Standard Rain User (configurable) To be honest, Standard mode does change up a little too early, but it doesn't ever feel like it's struggling . Thanks for watching 👍

[@jarrodleis4046]

Nice comparison. 2nd gen 750x DCT owner here. IMO the 750 looks better than the 1100. I think for the next gen 750x Honda should fit standard cruise control and heated grips. They should also fit the front end from the 500x. As for the NT1100 I would actually prefer if Honda never made that bike but rather made a 1000cc version of the 750x while keeping the dimensions of the 1000 as close as possible to the 750.

[@Crohniebiker]

I agree with you, I think they should have also put on the dashboard from the adv 350 which has honda roadsync. Thanks for watching 👍

[@pauloakes5718]

NC 750 all day.Laughing all the way too the Leeds!

[@johncrawford2304]

Upgrade the NC suspension and you’ll never look at another bike Just had mine in at Maxton

[@Crohniebiker]

Yes I do think the suspension is an area that will need addressing at some stage, im glad you have a good experience with changing yours. Thanks for the comments 👍

[@garybrereton7521]

Front and rear, or just rear. And what did you upgrade to.

[@paulyflyer8154]

I did almost the same thing. Took my CB500X in for a service and tried out the NT1100 for an hour. Really impressed with how light and nimble it was and obviously the extra torque was brilliant. When I got back they were having problems fixing the honda heated grips on my 500 so he said have a look round and take out something else. I thought I may aswell have a bit of fun and choose something I'd never actually buy. I've ridden a goldwing and toyed with the Indian Scout, but went with a BMW R1250 gs, even though I'm not a dentist. Omg that was the biggest mistake of my life. I didn't want to get off it. So smooth, torquey and comfortable and the manoeuvrability and nimbleness at slow speed was amazing, probably because of the low c.o.g. Spent the next few hours plotting how I'm going to explain it to the wife as we were having a new porch and front door put in the following week! Anyway, 2 weeks later I got one and just wish I'd tried one 20 years ago and saved myself a lot of time and money chopping and changing different bikes. This one will see me out now as for me I love how it rides and does absolutely everything impeccably. Shaft drive is also a definite advantage too for me. Had I not tried the gs though I'd have definitely swapped the 500x for the NT100 the same day. Cruise control and all day comfort were the USPs for me.

[@Crohniebiker]

I have friends with GS's and they swear it's the best bike out there. Unfortunately I had a really bad experience with owning a K1200GT years ago and it's just put me off BMW now . I know I shouldn't let that taint my opinion but it's probably best it does because I can't afford one anyway 😂😂. Thanks for your comments.

[@paulyflyer8154]

@Crohniebiker Same here...fot years I've also avoided KTMs for the same horror story reasons, but mainly because the GS has become so popular and a bit of a cliche with thousands of dentists and accountants nipping to Tesco and coffee shop with their aluminium boxes and goretex pyjamas. I've got a Triumph speedmaster aswell which I ride instead if I fancy people coming up to me for a chat!