Honda No Start? Old School Problem Shows Up!! 04 Honda Accord

[@kicknsystm]

I leave the wires connected to the old cap & just lay the cap to the side. After installing the new distributer, I switch the wires over one at a time to the new cap. Also, by pulling the old cap off, I verify by the direction of the rotor I'm not installing the new distributer 180% out.

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

Shows that Kenny is either self taught or had a bad teacher. The modules and could are also a lot cheaper and very easy to replace. It's only about 5 screws. The only reason I would replace the dizzy is if it had oil inside it. IE internal seals leaking..

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

That job just cost someone a lot more than it needed too. And I do the same as you with the leads. And suggested it above.

[@VMX1.]

Love sitting down with a cup of coffee and watching your vids Kenny. Thanks for making them man. All the best. Be safe Rod

[@lebaroncars]

found with some side mounted distributors that the oil seal fails on them and oil get's into the distributor and the pickup sensor cannot read as long as the oil is present , cleaned it out and presto working again . fixed my brother in laws car like that ,

[@robertbigler7743]

My kid had a Nissan with an optical sensor inside. The oil seal leaked too much to just clean it, so we replaced the distributor. Later, I'd read where lots of owners drilled a small hole in the bottom of the cap and oil would drip out without affecting the sensor. I never got to try that free fix...

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

​@@robertbigler7743 I have a u13 Nissan with a similar problem I clean it every 12 months or so as the dizzy costs more than I paid for the car lol. Super reliable tho. (It did just shit an alternator tho) and 360,000 kms

[@GeneralSulla]

I got the same problem from blowby. Need little hands to get to the bottom fastener. Oops got it. Hope I can get it back on. Lol! Oil in the distributor. Hope that's the problem. Intermittent start.

[@coldjello8436]

“Am I going in correctly?” Prom night all over again.

[@oshe5871]

I had a 1991 Honda civic dx, left me stranded twice because of a bad igniters. Other than that the car ran great for 299,899 miles before I gave it away. Never consumed oil between oil changes, one the best engines ever made.

[@gb123-ej8wh]

You had the only Honda 4 banger ever to not burn oil then. I mean a unicorn. I guess even crappy importers can get it right once in a million huh

[@semigodslayer9621]

@@gb123-ej8whmy car has 214k miles f22a2 and it doesn’t burn oil😂 I spent thousands on the break system the coil overs, brand new spark plugs, cold airflow intake, I changed how the engine gets direct air intake, I have a straight pipe exhaust, with a cat so it’s not loud asf I always change my oil when needed the worst thing that’s happened is I put too much oil once and the only issues that I’ve ever seen with my car were the automatic transmissions they get a skip but they still last years but the manual is way better and the rack which leaked 3 times but it was most likely because they were remanufactured but brand new was 500😂

[@MarlzJinx]

@@oshe5871 I have a 91 crx base 189,000 miles , doesn't burn oil.

[@jefferson88888]

Great video Kenny - simple, basic dianostics explained very clearly.

[@jonathancarlyle4690]

Just wanted to say thanks for the videos. I appreciate anyone that can add to my knowledge of things. Enjoy the stories too.

[@mikegordon329]

I’ll be your camera man just to watch you work on cars. You have a lot of experience and knowledge that I wish I had.

[@michaelweatherhead9470]

Thanks for the video Kenny, never had any problem with my Hondas like that.

[@gillgetter3004]

Neighbor kid replaced his wouldn’t start came and asked me to see if I could help. Looked good wires right etc. he had charger on it. I told him hold accelerator to floor after it’s charged it’s probably flooded. WORKED👍

[@SeanBZA]

That intermittent spark you can easily check that the wires to the internal module from the tiny pick up coil have the insulation fall off them, and intermittently short the coil so no spark. Available as a spare part, though the electronic module can also give issues, especially if somebody used silicone sealer instead of silicone thermal compound to mount it.

[@johnnylightning1491]

Most cars any more don't like to be low on voltage according to my buddy that has forgotten more about computers than I ever knew. Early Ford Escorts used to have that same issue. I had an 83 that had the exact problem except that had a module you could replace. Thanks for the memories.

[@PaulCTownsend]

Great videos Kenny thank you.

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

Easiest way to do it is undo the screws on both caps. Switch over the leads and then when you install the distributor you can turn the rotor button to line up the shaft. It shows Kenny didn't go to automotive school and or had a bad teacher.

[@LesReeves]

Just more work as he said most caps have the firing order on them.

[@derekr3895]

The symptoms you were describing around 2:50 of an accord losing spark then regaining it immediately or after sitting for a bit. I had this problem on an accord before. The car would run flawlessly, but when you shut the car off it wouldn't start again - no spark. If you let it set a few minutes to an hour spark would be back and it would run perfectly until you shut it off again. It ended up being an ignition coil.

[@David_Johnson_]

We used to find these exact symptoms with Subaru engines, on those it turned out to be crank angle sensor. Literally 5 minutes and a $130 part and problem solved in the driveway without having to book it into the workshop. The service manager authorised a stock of about half a dozen to be available at all times so service advisors could do this. We charged about $20 to fit, even in front of the customer where they could see how easy the access was at that time. Many unhappy customers were turned around by this fix.

[@Rod-db8tt]

Ya my 93 Civic was similar ... on numerous occasions wouldn't start first thing in the morning, but after she started, she started fine for the rest of the day. So one morning I hooked up my timing light and noticed no spark ... this is an OBD1 critter. So I pulled out the Hayne's and ohm'd out components in distributor. Bad ignitor ... IIRC I also changed coil for shit's and grins😊

[@josephsprinkle8783]

i’m having pretty much this exact problem but the car is stalling, i just replaced the ignition coil and it’s driving me nuts lol

[@derekr3895]

@@josephsprinkle8783 Check spark once it dies to see if you're actually losing spark.

[@josephsprinkle8783]

@@derekr3895 yes i verified tonight that once it does stall it’s losing spark, im guessing since it’s not ignition coil or cap and rotor it’s probably the igniter

[@robintidd8808]

All ways keep it simple fab video 1😊

[@TurnThemWheels]

Dude you are an awesome mechanic

[@corystafford4958]

My 2000 accord had intermittent stalling / no start. After a long time of trying to figure it out, turned out to be the evap canister electronics.

[@colt2206]

Nice headliner. Lol that would drive me crazy driving around with car like that

[@longpipegang]

All it takes to fix is some spray adhesive

[@mikeschaner5853]

Gotta love reliable cars with reliable failures 😆 🤣 Distributer, cap/rotor, coil in the driver kick panel, were always the repair with a honda no start 😅😅. Good show sir!

[@jorgeespinal6478]

Good job have a Accord my self thank you for the video

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧

[@dxxxm231]

The stalling accord could be the ignition switch. Super common on older Hondas

[@e.r.videography6209]

Not really. IGN switch is only for starting the car not running it

[@dxxxm231]

@@e.r.videography6209 ummm no. There is literally a recall on this issue. Stick to videography

[@e.r.videography6209]

@@dxxxm231 keep your insults and pride to yourself. We are here to learn.

[@spaceghost8995]

My 1999 Accord was such a great car! I sold it in 2020 but I STILL see it around town! It has well over 300,000 miles on it. When I sold it it actually needed new oil seal on distributer shaft. ❤😂

[@joehyundaitech7961]

Kenny hi nice video I had no idea how pricy this part went for I looked it up on 2 online parts stores that I use and the prices were so high

[@Sctronic209]

Awesome Kenny.

[@LanaAnton-w3g]

Good job

[@TerrellThinks]

I had the same problem and never thought to charge the battery until now. 12:11

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

I'm glad you figured it out. Thanks for watching. Keep wrenching 🔧

[@josechaidez-i9z]

Great video! But what could be if we still having the same issue?

[@juans6639]

I remember replacing the distributor cap on an older Honda that would run erratically. Found out it had a hairline crack shorting the High Voltage to ground.

[@derekpalmer7598]

good vid and you sorted the problem out . but i would have took the cap off ,just to conferm there was nothing simple gone wrong with the distriutor before investing in a whole distributor . it could have been just the cap or rotor ?

[@bobby9195]

Great job

[@brianlchase]

Good video Kenny. Threw my old timing light away few years back. Remember pumping the pedal?

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

Thank you Kenny!

[@Casey28027]

I would have taken the distributor cap off the verify where the rotor button was pointing. Then you could mark the rotor button to the engine for more of an exact installation.

[@SirDeanosity]

Similar distributor setup as in the Ford Escort. The pickup coil would fail open when hot.

[@johnm.teague8125]

My 02 accord with 401K miles somehow still has its original distributor. Starting to consider carrying a new one around. 🤣

[@amandaromeroespindola8873]

This is what mines doing I’d just got. It’s been sitting for 4 years hmmm 2002 though not a 99

[@harleyclair98]

Will the rockers still move if the distributor is bad or are the rockers not moving because the timing belt broke

[@knoester7714]

Good job Kenny

[@KBDxTokyo]

I put in a new distributor on my 1993 Honda prelude, it would crank but not start. After the new one was installed it still cranked but didn’t start. I noticed that I had to have the distributor positioned in a certain angle for it to start the car.

[@markk3652]

Who filled the headliner with water? Looking like it was ready to pop open! The early Ford flathead engines from 32-48 had the same type of distributor drive off the front cover of the timng gears.

[@MegaGQ1234]

Thank you for sharing this video it rally help.with the same problem thanks👍👍👍

[@robertlacob8831]

I bet that distributor isn't cheap either. Used to replace them on the old Ford '80s 4 cylinder cars because you couldn't get them apart most of the time to replace the electronic ignition module.

[@Grumpy-sy7wr]

My dad had a 98 CR-V which had a CEL on. Did the code flash count with a paper clip, indicated faulty cam position sensor. That happens to live inside the distributor. Turned out the easiest, and believe it or not, cheapest way to fix it, was a whole new distributor. He sadly lost that vehicle only a few months later, via the Takata air bag rifle buy back 😔

[@Loliconman]

Wait. Does that recall include a 1994 del sol si?

[@danieldeal7946]

where did he buy the new one from? and what brand?

[@nypana1202]

Hey Kenny. Great video. Can you put a link on where you got your distributor? How is the car running now? Thanks

[@spelunkerd]

This one took me by surprise because my recollection of cylinder numbering is different in a different transverse four cylinder Honda engine. To my surprise on looking it up, Honda cylinder numbering is not uniform for their transverse engines. I didn't know it can be either way depending on the engine. Specifically the B series 4 cylinder transverse engine 1988-2001 engine has #1 on the left side, and the K series 4 cylinder transverse engine 2001-2011 #1 was on the right side. Why? Is the transmission bolted on the opposite side for those numbered the opposite way?

[@metzmatu8409]

Isn't the no #1 on the timing belt/chain end side?

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

​@@metzmatu8409 yes. Number 1 is at the front of the every engine. And on a four cyl number 4 is closest to the box. Always.... 🤦🏼‍♂️. The person above has no idea

[@spelunkerd]

@@Alberthoward3right9up So what I hear you saying, is that the timing belt on the engine shown in the video is on the driver's side? If so it would explain why the numbering in the K series was later switched..

[@martinmoffitt4702]

Unfiltered air N-G Happy Easter Sir!

[@MrHarleynut]

Worse yet is un metered air.

[@TheProtagonist_777]

Is there a fuse for the ignition coil? It would be advised to check that as well.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

I replaced the head gasket on this Honda Civic. It started up and ran, then stalled. As you can see in the video, it does have spark! Another place replaced the distributor. It ran. kzbin.infowY3SCWqVw7E?feature=share

[@mikeschaner5853]

"Nut Wax" is amazing stuff.

[@MarlzJinx]

Ive put new distributor on, new fuel relay, spark plugs, (after I replaced the seals on spark plug wells, and gaskets, .... it will start and run great, get you where you're going. But when you jump in to go home...no start , no start, no start. Im so frustrated. Edit: FIXED. new o ring on distributor. Old one was shot n leaking oil onto starter. Now it starts everytime. Had to replace starter because the oil leak destroyed it.

[@kevinmanning4880]

Great video!

[@joeysleonard]

My oil seal failed and let oil get inside my dist...as for "the other" accord, my 99 did the same thing, ended up having to replace the ignition wires in steering column...

[@TheCarnager]

It is nice honda parts are cheap and we can still fix these old cars.

[@richardhelit844]

Electrical part of ignition switch or fuel pump relay

[@bradmarcum2927]

Another good one Kenny. Keep wrenching.

[@michaelluhrman3439]

Great video!!

[@brettvaughn1058]

It’s like watching one of those old detective shows. Who done it? The fuel pump, the battery, the coil, the fuse, aha! The distributor cap with weak battery and fuel flood.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

😂😂😂 I should get a Columbo trench coat. Thanks for making me laugh & watching the channel. Keep wrenching 🔧

[@presovenganzadanoargueta3727]

I have same issue to bad do I am in Guatemala and here parts a way to expensive. Looking for a used one but seems like I am looking for more problems . Thanks for the video master. I have a Honda Accord 1998 I been with this car since 2000 and is first time give me trouble. . Thanks again for the video. ND ofcourse I droped the like.

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

Very good lessons to be learned. What is wrong with the headliner- are rodents or heat causing it to sag.

[@ricebike]

Old cars tend to do that... adhesive just wears out over the heat/humidity

[@MohdFai-cz1bl]

Bro I got honda spike 2012 model it not starting

[@RickPollard-kq3zn]

I always check my test lights

[@miskakoivisto6186]

Any idea could this be the problem why my injectors wont spray?

[@mtjm]

No fuel pressure probably fuel pump main relay, he mentioned it at the beginning of the video.

[@gb123-ej8wh]

That’s interesting.

[@dejanaejenkins4648]

I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX v6, it’s doing the same thing as this car. I had the serpentine belt changed, drove 2 minutes to the store and shut the car off, crunk it back up.. the oil light and battery light came on so I shut the car back off. Tried to crank it back up and it just wouldn’t start. It’s turning, but won’t start.

[@MarlzJinx]

Same

[@BillConrad]

Thanks; that was a cool video (what did you use to film it). My Honda Accord 2001 had a P1318 code, which would not always start, so I changed the distributor. It ran better after changing the distributor, but I still have the same issue and get the P1318 code. It could be the battery or the alternator. Also, it is past time to change the timing belt, and now it is limiting (cutting off) at 5000 rpm.

[@robertdiehl9003]

Excellent video. I need timing belt installed for 1999 Honda CR-V. Interested in fixing before Memorial day.. Can I schedule an appointment Kenny? Driving from Fort Lee, N.J. to do it

[@ricebike]

That shop is backlogged... Plus he's going to leave and do his own thing soon

[@markmilini9519]

My 2000 accord will run until the motor is hot then dies,might be 30 40 min later then its starts back up and stalls then doesn't restart until cold

[@zmelli]

That Honda that stops running may have a bad ignition switch. I had the same problem.

[@savagestaysaucy]

I have this same problem with my 2000 honda accord ex crack but no start I have heard that this could be cause by a bad relay switch do you think I should try an replace the distributor first then the relay lmk ?

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Check for spark first. If you have no spark change the distributor. If you have trouble go on Facebook Wrenching with Kenny. Input all the info about your vehicle & what you have done to fix the issue. There are a lot of techs and automotive people that may be able to help. You can try our FB group, Backyard Mechanics (3.8K members) they can help too. Be sure to answer all the questions to join the groups. Let us know what you come up with. Keep wrenching!

[@davidwait1697]

Old skool is good, stil Kenny that sometimes can save you 😊

[@glove8888]

Mine wouldnt start. I replaced the fuel pump and the fuse. Than it ran for about a week and i noticed in the morning it would start but not when it was hot in the afternoons so i replaced the main fuel relay and found the sodder was damaged. Starts and runs now but now it sounds like it cranks longer than it use too, barely starting. Idk what the hell it is now

[@hughcourchesne4351]

Getting at diagnosis

[@micah.80665]

My 2000 accord 2.3L had a MASSIVE oil leak. Ended up being the gasket on the vvt solenoid. I replaced it, fixed the leak. I also changed the plugs, wires and rotor in the distributor. Started up and drove like it was brand new. Then, I got a new ac control unit bc mine was faulty so I couldn’t use my ac. Once I got that new control head, about 4 days afterwards it would start to act like it wanted to kill the car when I had the ac on. Then it would only blow cold while driving. Now my car won’t start at all. I show I have spark. Anyone have any ideas what that could be? I’m just starting to look into it. I hope it’s simple. I took the distributor cap off and had my girl crank it and it’s turning like it should. I do have a question on if that rotor should turn quick or somewhat slow tho. Mine wasn’t turning very fast. Is this normal?

[@berniegonzalez5207]

I have a 99 accord, it would shut off on you but you would oull over and it would start, turned out it was ignition switch.

[@unwired1281]

👍

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank s

[@briccc4why518]

Why would you not pull the cap and check the rotor first?

[@james22939]

Let’s go

[@c.e.anderson558]

Can't the dist be 180° off?

[@djosbun]

Cranking cadence at the beginning of the video sounds like it has a very low compression in one cylinder.

[@SirDeanosity]

Lotta cars you have in the que.

[@Alberthoward3right9up]

I've put modules and coils in them distributors and it's easy. If charging for a complete distributor I'd say you are over charging.

[@michaelweatherhead9470]

I'd still be driving my 97 civic HX 549k but too rusty, still runs.

[@williamwhite9767]

That undulating starter speed indicates a low compression cylinder, doesn't it?

[@douglaskrenik4102]

Yes, it sounds like its got a weak hole. Not unusual at all those miles.

[@timewa851]

should get a valve check/adjust. Honda says every 105,000 miles. lol. the old skool early 1980's ones were every 17,500 mile intervals. At least that way you'd remember you have non-hydraulic camshaft. lol. Prob a burnt exhaust valve. : l

[@robertbigler7743]

Not going to put a timing light on that engine?

[@spelunkerd]

Some manufacturers when through a phase when they used electronic timing based on the crank and cam sensors even though the old mechanical distributor was still being used. In that case they didn't need to accurately bolt the distributor into place using a timing light because the correction was done electronically by the PCM. My old 1998 Dodge Ram is like that. In this car we saw there was very little adjustment possible for bolting the distributor housing on. Controlling spark timing with electronics allows the PCM latitude to adjust timing on the fly based on transient factors like rpm, load, engine temp, knock sensors, etc. Any minor variance in how the housing is bolted on is easily corrected by the software.

[@robertbigler7743]

@@spelunkerd I imagine you're right in this case. I wonder why Kenny didn't mention that.

[@markamcampbell5795]

if it doesn't start in 30 sec there is something wrong don't keep cranking.

[@shanekiller8447]

My Honda integra 1996 no check engine light don’t com on so it doesn’t start

[@tonymontana6368]

Those dam old Honda distributor are weird as F, l had a old Honda civic drove the car all day turn off it won't start the dam coil burned up.

[@LesReeves]

Just glad I don't own a vehicle with that type of distributor set up anymore Cheers.

[@brandonspivey8938]

So I’ve replaced spark plugs due to oil being in them, new wires, have gas lol, new spark plug seals, and can’t seem to get it started. Not throwing a code at all so makes it that much more mysterious. Sister was using car and came to a stop and it died! I’ve tried all I know so anyone got any ideas by chance before I call a mobile mechanic to see if they can help me

[@mirandaruiz8112]

i’m having the same issue!

[@mirandaruiz8112]

let me know when if you figure it out please 🙏i’m thinking maybe the distributor?

[@MarlzJinx]

Same, and I've replaced distributor, relay, spark plugs, new well seals n gaskets, ...could it be in the ignition switch??

[@nypana1202]

Did you ever get it fixed? Was it the distributor? Im having the same issue. All I did was replace the spark plug cables and now the car won’t start. Every thing is in order. I double and triple checked and still no start. I should of kept to an old saying “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” 😂

[@MarlzJinx]

@nypana1202 I ended up taking my Dad's car to the shop, and the o ring on the distributor was shot, and leaking oil onto the brand new starter, so that explains why it would start, go where you're going, then not start again. They replaced the o ring, and starter, now it starts every time.

[@homiecwhite1496]

Dude's putting metal tools and other metal objects right by the battery terminals....

[@rico00042]

I once warned a guy about that and within 5 minutes of telling me off he arc welded a wrench to it, got really excited, burned his hand on the now red hot wrench and finally grabbed a rag and got the thing back. I just got on my skateboard and rolled away... (Naval Shipyard housing, South Philly 1982)

[@ronaldshank736]

Drivtability that's easy for you to say 😂

[@will78]

For ( the little module on the driver side that run the injection has bad modern joints don't let it bite you in the ass