HONDA | SUPERCUB | Suspension upgrade

[@paulkinsella6172]

Master fabricator! Achievement unlocked. If a bodge works, it ain't a bodge, its a fix. Top work Sir.

[@Mrfish2015]

True , I’ll take that

[@jonathanmellish4439]

Good call. I was going to upgrade my old Cub with new shocks and will no doubt have the same problem.

[@deepjoyrides]

Excellent job. Shocks look really good. Big up the fish.

[@Its.Briney]

The piece you cut out, you could reverse then weld it back in place, then just cap the open ends, maybe make the cut piece longer though for the movement of the shock as the arm moves up and down.

[@jonathangriffiths2499]

It’s very thin metal .would it be weldable or would it just distort ?

[@Mrfish2015]

I Don’t have a welder and it’s not symmetrical , it has enough room for the movement 👌 .. if I had all the equipment I would have made a piece probably (not definitely) lol

[@Its.Briney]

Yeah of course, you’d just use a low current to weld it, just need a mig or tig set, and a good welder like myself, 😉 😂

[@Its.Briney]

@@Mrfish2015 😂 as long as it works hey, I’m just ocd when it comes to fabricating things, keep up the good content! Wanna see some more of the Africa Twin out. 😎

[@pauljai7151]

Good to see you getting on, can’t beat a good man cave & bikes to escape to 👍🏼

[@furiousgriz]

Awesome stuff, you're braver than me cutting into a new bike haha Also glad to see you're well and I look forward to more riding videos sometime soon!

[@tonywilliamson1822]

Ha ha well done,you got Dell boy worried now !!

[@Mrfish2015]

Steady on Rodney

[@LambChopRides]

Nice to see someone else bodging in the garage 😁

[@Mrfish2015]

😂 , your wisdom has been passed on

[@minnesotavikings7163]

Great video & job well done Mr. Fish.

[@Wats1984]

Great vid Mr Fish! Enjoy working in the garage myself 👍!

[@DIY-DaddyO]

Nice upgrade. C90’s are the dogs. I used one as a back up when I was unemployed and 90mpg is a god send when you’re skint. To be honest, I preferred it to my BMW RT but don’t tell anyone.

[@silversurfertim2123]

Well done, at first I was thinking just take the chain guard off but your fix is better. 👌🏻👍🏻✌🏻

[@TheBoltHoleBiker]

Textbook tapework.😆😆😆. I love the stuff, I reckon if you had enough of it, like about three rolls, you could build a workable road bridge! Love the vid.

[@paulthecodfathercodling5631]

Great bit of MacGyver, love the work in the garage, its not all just about riding the bikes as our mate Lamb Chops knows. Yes more of these please. I know you did not have any but if you used Duct Tape then its silver and would have seamlessly blended in 😂

[@Mrfish2015]

I only used what I had , doesn’t mean it can’t be changed if I ever find the silver (it’s here somewhere lol)

[@yorkie182]

Nice one Mr Fish. I hoped you would crack out the Dremel to sort that. I would have used silver tape though?

[@Mrfish2015]

So Would I if I had some lol

[@BigPezza]

Yea it will be amazing with that upgrade but then c125 were ment for a short light rider. That bike had no hope

[@Mrfish2015]

😂.. knob

[@paulcritchley4330]

Necessity is the mother of invention! 👍

[@Ibis117]

Nice workshop slippers!

[@Mrfish2015]

Only the best

[@paulhorton5594]

I take my hat off to you because I would have panicked and changed the shocks . Good for you

[@Mrfish2015]

Ha ha , you got to try lol

[@HippoDrones]

Nice one Fish, even got some proper custom bike builder hipster sparks too! :D

[@Mrfish2015]

Photoshopped lol

[@HippoDrones]

@@Mrfish2015 :D

[@stewartentwiistle952]

I'm not going to give any advice on what you should have/could have done.... it was a good bodge for a man with a vice and a dremel.... well done sir

[@Mrfish2015]

Got to use what you have

[@mattward5335]

Loving the carbon fibre tape 😉👍

[@Mrfish2015]

Lighter = faster

[@waynedl99]

As others have said, shock other way up. But, also, if you're doing you cutting method, you need to cut extra either side as there's a reason the shock is on pivot style mounts - as the suspension goes up and down, the angle of the shock changes...

[@Mrfish2015]

It’s has clearance for the movement

[@The_Arby]

If it is as easy as changing the rear suspension...Yeah go for it...Lets see what else you can improve mate :-) Love that vice, iv'e got 1 as well :-)

[@tegbwoy91]

Hey you ever thought about just flipping the shock around?

[@randyjorgensen8363]

If you are willing to experiment with another guard. Watch a couple videos on ‘paint less dent repair’ and I think you could reshape that thin metal to clear the shock and have no hole.

[@Mrfish2015]

Pulling out the dent would give it less clearance I need to create one .. hard to get right with thin metal and my hammer 😂

[@randyjorgensen8363]

@@Mrfish2015 yeah, I didn’t mean to pull out the dent, I was meaning just use some of the same techniques to manipulate the metal into the shape you wanted.

[@gazoutabout]

Would it not have gone in the other way up matey?

[@Mrfish2015]

Have to mod either way

[@richiektm]

Safety flip-flops I like it

[@Mrfish2015]

All the gear 😂

[@janegrieve]

Good job done what you wanted 😀

[@billybigbones450]

Thanks for the shoutout! Just a thought couldn’t you have asked Brooks if it mattered mounting the shocks upside down? As the tops are longer and narrower, or heated the guard up and hammered/manipulated it to allow clearance? Get some Sugru (mouldable rubber) it comes in small packets and different colours and you could make a rubber bung . Thanks again and a great video..

[@Mrfish2015]

I wanted the adjustment at the top away from the road crap , I thought about heating and bending but that section would be a pain so off it came (if it was symmetrical I would have probably cut and reverse hammered

[@billybigbones450]

@@Mrfish2015 cutting and hammering could have worked, I do have a mig welder! Would have been a fun job maybe. Still looks good and solves the problem.

[@ronboe6325]

Props for getting it done! Now, something to consider: Get a machinist buddy to make a thicker Al. spacer for the bottom of the spring to move that end up to clear the chain guard. You have room to move the spring. No cutting needed. Part B. If you place the tape at the same angle as the shock then it will look like a painted accent. No trimming needed! Question; are you going to upgrade the springs in the front forks now? :^)

[@Mrfish2015]

It’s mainly the clamp not the spring , I would still have to cut , it fussed about the cosmetics too much lol , as you can tell

[@stuart4024]

A man after my own heart ! Mr Fish , John why dont you do a full on bike build? I for one would watch from start to finish ! Just an idea old boy.... Stuart the crazeee signaller

[@Mrfish2015]

I’ve always wanted to do a bike build , but the garage needs a lot of work first , but I plan on something

[@stuart4024]

How about and im genuinly excited by this , a bike build off between you , Bruce and Rich , we will leave the missenden flyer out as he would probably just employ somebody to do it !

[@Mrfish2015]

Lol , they would be 3 strange bikes 😂

[@cloggsy1971]

So can the guys a Brooks Suspension do a longer bottom sections for the rear shocks? May I politely ask how much the shocks were? As the chain guard is alloy, couldn’t you have just dented it in a bit? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dougdevine]

Did you just contact them and work with them to find the right pairing of spring/shock for your wants and weight?

[@kristophertrout7328]

I've watched other KZbin videos from Japan and Thailand swapping out YSS shocks and noticed they left the chain guards off. Now I know why. Some of them do swap out the chain with a very shiny gold chain to bling them up.

[@Mrfish2015]

Even ohlins pics they have the chain guard removed , it’s quite common in good shocks

[@732466]

can you please tell me where the indicator Buzzer is located as in the UK they are not fitted on these bikes

[@davew9682]

Hi , what's part number of the upgraded springs? Looking to do the mod for a Scotland NC500 road trip. Thanks

[@Mrfish2015]

Just Google it . I bought off of a friend

[@alanmcallister7174]

Really enjoyed this Mr Fish, anymore plans for the cub? 👍

[@Mrfish2015]

Thanks , No 1 on the list is get to ride it 😂

[@davidmazuera6370]

Did you do any improvement on the fork? I saw a video of yours riding offroad a very good pace on the the CT100

[@grumpsrides42]

Great video 👍

[@thinkingoutofthebox.9421]

Couldn't you have used longer bolts and spacers to move shock further out?

[@Mrfish2015]

You can but then it throws the geometry out I want them as straight as possible

[@timhudson1846]

CAN you upgrade the front suspension? I'm 290#.. I just squash the front suspension.. what can be done ?

[@joachimfilms]

Good on you! Suppose silver gorillatape wasn't at hand?

[@Mrfish2015]

Nope 😂

[@erikperik1000]

Skip the chain guard?

[@MrRiggyG]

Mr Fish, just turn the shocks upside down !

[@waynedl99]

Thought I'd check if anyone else said it before I did

[@Mrfish2015]

Still needs cutting

[@azlong4596]

Now the rear is done what are you going to do to balance the front suspension ?

[@Mrfish2015]

Never found the front too bad as all the right seems to be rear

[@mrwilz57]

Great video 👍 Quick question for you, would you trade in the super cub for the hunter cub if it arrives here in the UK? 😉

[@Mrfish2015]

Nope

[@clivehale397]

Hi...as the cub is quite low in power for a 125 are you going to do any tuning...?

[@robedmunds7163]

Bit of inner tube stuck on the inside would work better now.

[@Mrfish2015]

Not on the inside of the guard

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Inner tube Old despatch rider trick Put inner tubes over the shocks like gaiter Shock condoms lol and stick a piece over the hole in the chain guard 👍 Its only a BODGE if it DOSNT work ;)

[@Mrfish2015]

Then I can’t see the shocks 😂

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Ah yes good point , but keeps the shit off them when off roading ;)

[@johntheaccountant5594]

A bodge job. Don't they sell shocks that clear that chain guard?

[@Mrfish2015]

Probably if that’s what you want .. I had these set up for me

[@ientwistle1]

Would the shock fit if you turned it upside down ?

[@Mrfish2015]

It’s fits both ways with cutting

[@davidmotuel9008]

Hi Mr Fish, it’s been a good while since you upgraded/modified the rear springs on your Supercub. I’m over 18 stone and over the recommended weight for the cub and I find that the rear springs do struggle on bumpy roads, with the ride becoming very uncomfortable. So, do you still consider it was worthwhile installing the stronger rear dampers? Also, can you recall what they cost? I ‘m in Somerset, U.K. Thanks, and keep up the good work on your entertaining channel.

[@Mrfish2015]

Yes mate , a massive difference no sag on the back and no bounce , I used a company called brooks suspension www.brooksuspension.co.uk/ I called them and said what I needed and they were great .. I had different springs put on mine . Give them a call . If you have no luck I’ll try and dig out the receipts for the actual set up I had

[@davidmotuel9008]

@@Mrfish2015 thanks, I’ll give them a call👍

[@Matt-pv1kh]

Hello David, did you find some shocks that were a straight replacement? Were they any good, I'm another supercub rider in somerset

[@davidmotuel9008]

@@Matt-pv1kh hi Matt, to be honest I haven’t done this yet. Actually due to some health problems I’ve not been out on the Cub for several months, and as I’ve lost some weight in that time I’m not sure if it will still be necessary. I think I’ll be in the Spring when I next ride, so I’ll decide then what to do. I’m in Bridgwater-are you in this part of Somerset?

[@Matt-pv1kh]

I'm 90 kg and the ride is still far too harsh, I have an Innova and the ride is so much better, I'm thinking of trying to just swop the shocks from that to try, yes just up in weston, let me know if you fancy a rideout

[@davidwl3654]

When I had a weight/ suspension problem on my bike the dealer suggested I go on a diet, LOL - True story , it was a Honda too.

[@Mrfish2015]

I knew I was too heavy before I bought it lol

[@NomadRidesHD]

It is a supercub chopper now

[@Mrfish2015]

Superchopper

[@mickydavies]

could they not be put on upside down?

[@Mrfish2015]

Yes and no

[@bren106]

It may be worthwhile next time you've got the chain guard off to put another bit of tape on the inside, sticky side to sticky side, and reinforce the mod.

[@Mrfish2015]

The only problem with that is , if it comes off it goes into the chain

[@alexcoh3622]

could you not install them upside down? i think they go the other way. the adjustment down. that is what the previous models suspension was installed like.

[@paulbudford]

Sorted 👍

[@gasteiz496]

yss model #? i am interested thanks for the video

[@gasteiz496]

eco line re-302.....

[@gasteiz496]

i can read it now in hd....haha re302-350t-22-88

[@MultiJantastic]

Do you have it op-side down?

[@Mrfish2015]

No

[@russellmartin2705]

You were doing so well untill the gorilla tape. Cant wait to see what you do to the forks. 😂

[@mickydavies]

Life would bo boring if things turned out right first time

[@Mrfish2015]

So true

[@Ravan_Caw]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@8000blue]

Duck tape ! it's Silver

[@Mrfish2015]

If I had some it would have been

[@terrynixon8152]

Honda shocks, no matter the model, have been shaped like stemware to clear the guard since forever. Always an ordeal to replace with long-spring "standard".

[@Jaffa1951]

The Honda Supercub facebook owners club will, probably, have a solution to all your problems.

[@Mrfish2015]

Not all my problems 😂

[@jameshaywood878]

The Honda super cub owners club would probably have a fit, if they saw what a mess he was making of this bike.

[@Mrfish2015]

Mess ?

[@Watnuweer]

Repaint the bike in black ,same as gorilla tape 😊 nobody will notice.