New S&W Folding 9mm Carbine: M&P FPC First Shots

[@justauser]

I don't get how people don't care about the folding feature, it's the #1 reason I bought the gun. Although I used to live in a farm and it would be less important, I now live in an urban area in a multi family dwelling, so being able to fold it up and place it in a backpack to transport is HUGE. I also live in Canada so just walking from my house to my car without anyone knowing is HUGE. It allows me to freely transport the gun without needing a big ass plastic case that draws attention, and that's very important to me. It keeps me reaching for this gun over others over and over again

[@iseehowitis9382]

I like the fact that it folds for obvious compact storage capabilities. Also the scope and red dot features that come with it are great too. It shoots very well. Well worth the price of admission.

[@michaelkeselman]

Instead of sending you a newly-released gun to review and rip apart, they really need to be paying you to consult during the design and testing phase

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

mrgunsandgear, MAC, and several other gun channels do that, I’m surprised he hasn’t been asked yet.

[@enloeeagle7258]

How do we know he hasn't been asked to do this?

[@gypsonny2]

They ship guns to all the top guntubers. This is industry standard practice on a mid platform

[@nicholasthomas3635]

They will watch these reviews^^ & read the the feedback in these vids. Then they R&D.

[@10ft5x3]

10mm needed.

[@Graydog-sx6le]

I really like this. I’ve never really seen a PCC that I’ve wanted at a decent price point. Mrs. Outlaw is right SW is knocking out of the park lately.

[@MrSupergoose73]

NOPE. S&W Isn't knocking anything out of the park unless it is the 686.

[@tonyd6884]

@@MrSupergoose73and then you need to thoroughly inspect one of those when buying a new one

[@bertpulaski2492]

As someone who had a KelTec Sub 2k, I really want this simply because it folds and can actually have a red dot without some kind of crazy adapter.

[@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330]

Preach!!!

[@darknature79]

Wished these came out before I spent $625 on that mount and all the mcarbo sub2k upgrades lol.

[@alexsmith0013]

45 degree offset on the m-lock rail fixes this problem

[@Edc-Guy]

@@alexsmith0013 horrible design to have to have a permanent 45 degree offset, especially in the world of red dots the standard on hand guns let alone rifles. This is much better. Both are ugly af

[@kennethcook3127]

Macrobo makes the part where you can add a red dot

[@03buga]

From what I’ve been told smith and Wesson slide realizes are not meant to be pushed down like regular guns. They’re just there to lock the slide in place for the last round.they want us to manually rack the slide back so it can ride forward

[@michaelshapiro1543]

You likely mean slide "RELEASES". (You just don't REALIZE it yet.)

[@handsupbud]

@@michaelshapiro1543 He didn't REALIZE what he was saying.

[@jwiz1911]

Got an email from Smith about this gun and thought, "I hope Chris will do a review of this thing" And here we are!

[@mdredheadguy1979]

"I hate it when I shove something in and it doesn't work." "Me too, I just go harder..." 😂😂😂😂😂 You two are so awesome together!

[@MacNCheesePro]

That part made me LOL 😂

[@duhbullb]

19:26 too 🤣 they wildin

[@GiorgosC-rp5ms]

this man is truly the most honest and best gun reviewer ever

[@kennethcook3127]

Nonsense. He just said you can’t put an optic on the Kel tec, and that’s not true at all

[@daddukes2110]

@Kenneth Cook Because it folds back onto itself, it's not the most INTELLIGENT thing to do. You'll just ruin your optic, damage the rail or mount, and look pretty dumb to boot. If you want to, you CAN. It's just pointless unless you never fold it.

[@thesillymoose193]

As long as it doesn’t have anything to do with Springfield armory.

[@kennethcook3127]

@@daddukes2110 that’s bs. Mcarbo makes the adapter for the red dot so you can fold the Kel tec

[@daddukes2110]

@Kenneth Cook BS if you have to spend MORE to make it work. His claim is legit, you just love your gun.

[@eintracht691]

The reason for the tabs on the mags is due to the M&P compact being a 15 rd mag. You can also use 17 round mags with the little tabs so there is no gap. I got used to them, but to each their own. Since I own the M&P compact, I'm definitely getting one of these. Nice review!

[@jrodabobo69]

The best gun reviewer on KZbin. Thank you for your work, Mrs. Outlaw.

[@tacticoolgent1784]

Yep! All the stuff I want, none of the crap I don't. Dude is straight and to the point.

[@jeffstevens156]

I like the fact that the sights (red dot) doesn’t leave it to keep from opening. The carbine stays sighted in! Thank You Chris and Mrs. Outlaw.

[@chargerman440]

This gun has been blowing up my feed today. Definitely a unique and better offering than the Kel-Tec, and what he said is certainly true. “It was designed by engineers and not by shooters.” Still a great review!

[@saigawesnovember]

Yeah, I think this is the third video Ive gotten with out searching for it. As a S&W fan,they have my interest. I might wait for the 2.0 though.

[@lubrew5862]

S&W must have dropped some serious money to get all these KZbinrs to advertise this gun. I don’t think I have seen them push a gun this hard before.

[@donzimmerman5829]

@@saigawesnovember Absolutely agree. S&W should have made a few examples, sought actual input from shooters and then release it with the fixes.

[@lz_377]

@@saigawesnovember yea I've watch TFBtv, Iraq veteran, and Honest outlaw.

[@jaytrock3217]

Better offering? Granted the trigger is better. However this thing is huge in thickness and come on everyone loves Glock mags.

[@c.2119]

I love your wife, and you and your wife’s banter. Keeping it real.

[@darkpassenger65]

I want one, but I'm going to wait for the 2 gen version. I have a feeling S & W will rectify some if not all of the issues Chris mentioned.

[@larryperry5696]

Good call. In this Era of "crank it out" Gen 1's usually have hick ups.

[@paulfrancois7653]

💯

[@RCXDerp]

Yeah if you feel like waiting a few years probably a good idea

[@traveller4790]

Ditto!

[@slave4ups]

Buy both.

[@Corrie2078]

That’s Mr Outlaw. Best KZbin video. No politics, no I hate this that them there here just straight gun talk to the point with the best honest reviews. I take his video reviews very seriously and I learn a lot! Thumbs up always waiting for a new video.

[@robbytiller-cu6cm]

You saved the day for me again Chris. I work in a gun shop, saw this today and was ready to buy. One of those gotta have it moments. Your review made me slow down and wait and see how this gun is gonna work out. Thanks again!

[@RBMD2A]

An opportunity to slow down and not be a Charlie or Delta tester?

[@benjamin3290]

Always best to slow down and think any purchase through. I’ve made some bad impulse purchases with guns in the past, learned the hard way.

[@NOT_A_TOP_FAN]

@@benjamin3290 good point. I definitely want one of those lol, but I know buying Gen 1 on “innovative designs” can be trouble.

[@rickrick70]

It took me months to buy my Ruger PC carbine chasis model. Which has been 100 percent reliable. 🤔 this smith and wesson is cool looking but I am in no rush. I concealed carry a m&p compact and I'm trained in martial arts. So ya I'm good for now.

[@gigicline2660]

It looks very interesting. For a small security team at a public place, a folding pcc is easy to carry concealed. It also is more accurate than a pistol without having the negative connotation of an SBR. Also, instead of ripping the carbine out of the folded position, you can pull back on the charging handle to release the lock up. It should save on the wear and tear of the latching system. Great first look, thank you two.

[@jamesa.7604]

I think this is gonna be a Great Carbine. Needs to come out in 10mm and .45 ACP. Way cool gun. And Mrs. Outlaw was Awesome and Cute demonstrating it. She's a really good shooter!

[@mttwss]

Thanks!

[@jayduke6148]

Hey. Did you realize when your better half was shooting the metal targets, she actually played part of Rush's 2112 "And the meek shall inherit the earth" . Neil Peart would be proud! Great review! Can't wait for your further update on this gun.

[@oleroy4749]

I noticed 😂👍

[@TerminalM193]

Timestamp?

[@jeredalmeida1880]

They can hear it all the way over in the Temples Of Syrinx.

[@jayduke6148]

@@peterangles1231 So does your mother!

[@jayduke6148]

@@peterangles1231 Glad you enjoyed it.

[@AlanNAlaska]

I was glad to see Mrs. Outlaw shooting it, I am considering this for my wife and yours seemed to really enjoy it. Thank you.

[@robl884]

Well I didn't KNOW I wanted a folding PCC when I woke up this morning...but here we are. I feel like this would be a fun +1 addition to my newly acquired M&P M2.0 Compact for my collection. The mag compatibility is appealing, and so is running a lightweight carrier setup with all M&P pistol mags (a lot of them, because of the space allotted on the rig). A 30rd M&P mag would be ideal, but let's hope S&W keeps the innovation trend rolling that they've been on and makes that a reality. Overall...would.

[@jonathanbelmonte768]

Just bought one in OD Green fantastic Carbine very light shooting ✊

[@TheGeorgia53]

I haven't even watched the first 10 seconds of the review yet, but before I do, I'll say this, our Kel-Tech Sub 2000 is the most fun gun to shoot that we own.

[@blueheelerfriend8450]

I've had one of those forever as well and love it

[@12floz67]

I have to agree, they are a lot of fun.🍻

[@ElmCreekSmith]

My brother loves his. But, then again, he loves his 3" Taurus Judge .45 Colt/2½" .410, too. 🤔

[@12floz67]

@@ElmCreekSmith I gotta admit the judge is a excellent snake gun. A overpriced snake gun but it takes them out with no problem.🍻

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

@@ElmCreekSmith broken clock and whatnot

[@videogazer801]

Honest Outlaw always delivers a straightforward review. Thank you

[@thundercell13]

Boy is S&W pushing hard with this gun to see four KZbinrs (at least of my subscribe list, probably even more) release reviews of this on the same day

[@qp6563]

They all got pre release t&e copies. these vids are recorded in advance and set to release the day of the official launch

[@Sig_P229]

It’s an embargo date set by S&W

[@lubrew5862]

Smith and Wesson must of dropped some serious money to get this many influencers to all advertise this gun.

[@rileyneufeld7001]

@@lubrew5862 Can't speak for every KZbinr but most of them receive nothing in exchange for the review. They send them the gun for the review and that's it. TFB TV reviewed this gun as well and stated no money was exchanged for the review.

[@timmoll6521]

Was able to actually find one and just delivered Friday. Got it for my wife to pair with her spec series MP9 2.0 and she loves it. So do I. The FPC was really easy to set up and shoot. Put a Riton optic on it and my wife was hitting bullseye a different distances up to 25 yds at indoor range. Everyone at the range was checking out the gun. Can’t wait to get it to an outdoor range for some longer distance shooting

[@timmoll6521]

Forgot to mention it was her first time ever shooting a PCC. She is pretty new to shooting handguns. She was able to keep this gun on target and not much recoil

[@Mrgunsngear]

Interesting how you can charge it from one side. Mine just binds when I tried that. Otherwise similar results...

[@charlesjames5477]

Mine to I was thinking the same thing hopefully I'll be able to after it's broke in a little bit more

[@micahmiller8769]

Out of the 7,639 M&P FPC reviews ive seen pop up on KZbin today...I like yours the most.

[@JMF4CZ]

Reliable and around $700. Looks like an interesting option for home defense. I would consider it if I didn't have my CZ Scorpion rifle that has been 100% reliable. Nice job Chris and kudos to S&W.

[@Diaszurana]

True. Most of us already have our home defense set-up (Tavor TS12 w 510c red dot for me). This is more like a backpack backup for when we're out and about. At least in mind. And for that, it seems like a really good option.

[@krazeekalvin]

I would like to see an honest review between them. I like the CZ Scorpion and had not been able to shoot this one yet

[@anthonyhenderson892]

I want it

[@voodounpriest8705]

Might as well get the keltech for half the price.

[@ralphsolli]

MSRP is $699 but dealer are scalping them for $1400.

[@jamesholbrook3648]

You are so blessed to have a partner like Mrs. Outlaw

[@joshuagibson2520]

Oh dang. The extended shimmy was worth the price of admission. Lol. She never fails to make us all laugh!

[@lesliepaulkovacs6442]

Caddieshack background music in 3,2,1….

[@joshuagibson2520]

@@lesliepaulkovacs6442 lol. Completely fitting.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

Thank you for clarifying the keltec sub 2000. Will be purchasing the S&W -

[@dillonc7955]

Glad to see they're following the trend of interchangeable magazines between PCCs and handguns. In my mind it's a 50% discount for every magazine you buy since it can be for both your PCC and pistol. Only thing I'm iffy on is the button for the magazine holder. It won't be anyone's first instinct to press the opposite button to unclip a magazine from the stock. Otherwise looks like a great Sub 2k alternative.

[@kevindavidson8802]

James Reeves from TFBTV was lifting on the side he wanted to pull instead of pushing on the opposite. Probably would not be my choice for getting the mag out but if thats how you train it will probably be fine.

[@lz_377]

I agree. I have a S&W OR Spec Series coming Thursday that has mag compatibility with this. The biggest thing about this PCC is the price! I mean $700 MSRP is a really good deal.

[@kevindavidson8802]

@@lz_377 Sportmansoutdoor superstore has it preorder for 600

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

They should have released an extended mag with this firearm. Part of their competition is simply the selection in glock magazines and all their various capacities.

[@dillonc7955]

​@@kevindavidson8802 It's unbelievable how amazing you can get with your gun even training once a month with it. All of my anxiety with the Beretta I've got went away the couple times I took it to the range.

[@topgun2010]

I was thinking the same thing, about everyone and their mom releasing a video on this at the same time. Outlaw straight up says it in the beginning lol. Love this guy

[@squonk2902]

Carbines are fun, I like my Beretta CX4 Storm in .45. I need to check out one of these foldable ones.

[@kkduncanson]

Mrs. Outlaw always a great contributor to these reviews!

[@laptopdragon]

They're both awesome and admire many of her own recommendations too, like the kimber mako.

[@kellyshea92]

Cant wait to pick one up! The offical M&P Duty backpack is big enough to store it while keeping the backpack looking like a normal everyday backup.

[@believe722]

I think we all do very much appreciate your honesty reviews regardless of whether or not it's sent from the manufacturer!!

[@Steeeezie]

I’ve watched most of the big gun KZbinrs and you’re basically the only one actually honest about this and not just “Wow it’s cool, great option guys”

[@Titan_Moss37]

S&W sure is taking a lot of inspiration from Kel-Tec. First the KSG12 and now the sub2000

[@randykoebler8655]

Except that it's a completely different operating system. Side folds , different, better trigger system etc.....

[@Jesses001]

The Govener, a .410 revolver, ha. Also their 5.7 is similar to others, though I appreciate they went with a different locking system which might actually bring something different to the table. It seems they are looking at their competitors and trying to directly compete one for one. Not necessarily a bad idea to be honest.

[@Darko_137]

@@randykoebler8655are you actually trying to argue that s&w hasn’t taken inspiration from Kel-Tec on these gun? There practically the same guns with slightly different operating mechanisms… obviously.

[@uglyjihad]

@@Darko_137 it doesnt take glock mags either, they definitely did not copy keltec like why would they use the most popular mag type

[@TheAsheybabe89]

This always happens. Keltec invents a new concept. Then they release a prototype level development of product with semi spotty QC and really iffy availability. Then someone else takes the concept, refines it, nails QC, and then pumps them out by the thousands. The Ruger LCP vs the Keltec P3AT, or the Sig P365 vs the overlooked decades old and spec sheet identical Keltec P11 are good examples.

[@jarrodbrom7769]

I think your channel has to be the best thing to ever come out of Ames, Iowa

[@J.R.F.23]

Great review, thank you! At about a pound less than the Ruger PC Carbine Backpacker Model; with a list price of $659 (which is $270 less than the Ruger). I think this will be a good seller and a really fun plinker!

[@jeffroid_tv]

My New Favorite Carbine!!! Thank You Outlaw and Smith & Wesson!!!

[@ferrumchnop6617]

The review I've been waiting for. "If you like the keltek but want something that works.." 🔥

[@kevinranders]

Just picked this up yesterday, Did throw on a vertical grip and a romeo 5. Taking it to the range in about an hour. Stoked to give it a go.

[@afreightdogslife]

I have an MCarbo Sub2000 on 9mm, and it is just an outstanding weapon. This S&W folding rifle looks super nice, worthy of a try.

[@rudder727]

The only difference I see is the S&W doesn't need a folding red dot adapter which aren't exactly cheap. But I think I will keep my sub2000 because it is still 9 oz lighter. And when going in a backpack that makes a difference.

[@Stealther]

I like my Sub2k with the Primary Arms pivot mount. Plus, it takes my Glock mags! I do like the fold direction better on the S&W

[@theoriginaldreadpirateroberts]

I have the Sub2k as well. Does the Pivot Mount work well, no issues? I have an under-barrel green laser at the moment. Would prefer optics though.

[@Backwoodsballistics296]

I do agree with u about the way the mags are stored on the gun but it's still pretty nice that their is ammo on board the gun !

[@jdannug517]

They make the mags with the gap filler because they made the grip the length for the 15 rd mags, so it can accomodate all the standard m&p mags starting with the 15 rounders.

[@nooceluap7760]

Love the happy dance at 14:09. Nice review, thanks!!!

[@andyrihn1]

With a couple quality of life improvements and caliber options (5.7 or 10mm to pair with the new pistol offerings from S&W) this could really dominate the niche

[@Ram-vt3rm]

10mm would be very cool.

[@wingnutmcspazatron3957]

Fuck yeah very good idea. a 10mm would be phenomenal I'd buy

[@thesmalllebowski6528]

I own .40s I'm not a .40 guy per say, but .40 absolutely slaps out of a 16 inch barrel. (And so does .357 sig)

[@tripletap1]

At 10mm please take my $

[@richardw6592]

Theirs one carbine that changes calibers, but u have to buy a new lower and a bolt besides barrel. Just got this lil plinker and it's a joy str8 outta the box. Not to mention when firing it. Got it to save on ammo, but I think I'm spending more where it's so much fun to shoot. Guy I know that luvs his AR thinks these are janky, but he doesn't get to shoot his near as much as I do.

[@carlmontney7916]

Mrs. Outlaw was rockin a steel symphony with that FPC

[@BrokenGlass449]

Nice PC I like it. Aftermarket upgrades will be interesting for this model. A slide release extender, A adjustable brace with mag holders with different mag release for starters. 2nd gen would probably be the golden ticket.

[@typhoonKaiz07]

I’ve seen “there’s no such thing as a bad gun” comments. They’ve obviously never shot a KelTec. Great first shots review as always, man.

[@ElmCreekSmith]

If it is folded, the safety does not need to be engaged. That will remove the step that you kept missing on the "snatch & grab." I think I need to get one to go with my M&P9 2.0 5" FDE.

[@laptopdragon]

I'm going to wait for their FPC-9 (in the 2.0 version) where it's a basic AR-9 that takes all M&P mags without the extra bits b/c it will have an actual mag-well instead of the grip issue.

[@heycooley]

Eta??? Dragon dude?

[@GuitarGuy650]

1,000 rounds through my Sub 2k and not a single issue. Plus with the release of the new Gen 3, you can mount an optic right out of the box while still being able to fold

[@nathanstrickland6508]

Another review of this gun? But as always, yours is the best of them all. But this makes like 5 or 6 today. But I've been looking for something to carry in the truck, and this might be the one. Thanks for the awesome review outlaw, and wife.

[@excellent_name]

Review embargo lifted this morning for the product. Wave of vidyas commence

[@tactical_trucker4761]

When they release the 10mm model I'm all in and pairing it with my 10mm M&P 2.0

[@MC-ht8ud]

Every gun channel on youtube has a review about this carbine today! 🤣

[@bertpulaski2492]

Was thinking the same thing lol

[@Jordan-nc3zy]

Press embargo lol

[@mattmorse6849]

That’s how it works. Today is the release date. These folks get prerelease guns and aren’t allowed to say anything until release day.

[@dillonc7955]

If they don't do on a video on it today, it won't get nearly as much views. That's unfortunately how KZbin works.

[@MC-ht8ud]

@@mattmorse6849 Oh I understand totally, It's just kinda funny. I'm getting hardcore deja vu from my notifications.😄

[@gunfunandstuff9226]

I own a 2nd gen sub2k and have not shot this S&W yet. I'm pretty sure the build quality of this S&W is better than the sub2k, but for what my intended purpose for a folding pcc (backpacking, camping), the sub2k fits my needs better in that when folded, the sub2k is "flatter" and fits in my backpack better, this S&W would be "thicker". One thing I def don't like about the sub2k is no last round bolt hold-open. But it's intended role for me is convenience and it has been very reliable...and at about $200 less, I'm happy with the Sub2k.

[@edwardbaker4824]

Just fired one 3 days ago. What a nail driver!!!! Even as a amatuer, I got 2 - 3 inch groups everytime. So much fun, I shot 2 boxes of ammo real quick

[@edwardbaker4824]

Ooops, forgot to say, great price. I seriously like Springfield Armory stuff, this is 1/2 the price and theirs does NOT fold

[@chiefjoseph8154]

I’ve had my sub 2000 with Red Lion add ons for a long time now. Flawless execution.

[@spyder00367]

Finally, a guntuber I care about reviewing this…

[@blackmetalmatters9101]

Thank you for showing how it shoots from a lefty perspective!

[@richardroble4630]

As always, thanks for your in-depth and honest review. I always look for and appreciate your reviews regarding anything gun wise. You and your wife keep up the good work!

[@user-ss6cv3ti4r]

While giving the review he recognizes the safety for his wife when unfolding the carbine. Always appreciate & respect your reviews

[@RichHuff]

Thank you for this "initial impression". I'm looking forward to the in-depth review. You probably saved me from an impulse purchase today.

[@brianpartlow5530]

You mentioned the Keltec 2000. That's the one that vibrates and feels like it punches you in the face every shot. It's fine if you don't rest your cheek on stock. S&W did good with this one! It looks like Mrs Outlaw is keeping this one!

[@scottdunn1371]

Nice review. Great S&W is giving us more options. My sub2K takes Glock mags and hits steel at 75 yards just fine w the standard sites. It has been 100% reliable. I like the S&W folding better but I think the choice is whether you carry a Glock or S&W pistol. I may “need” both!

[@sullyduramax]

I bought the KELTEK Sub 2k and had to do a lot of upgrades to get it to work like the Smith & Wesson. I will definately buy the SW just because you did this review. thanks for the dedicated honest reviews, wish I woulld have found you early on in my gun quest now I own 15 guns and love them all! Stay GOLDEN OUTLAW and having your wife help is hella cool! You seem like a great couple! L8R CU on the next one.......

[@314BossB]

Great review! I appreciate your thorough explanations/opinions.. watching you put it on the table to see how quick you could get a set up was interesting. Can't wait for the 1000 Round Review, would like to see it suppressed and/or a timed drill.

[@thomasfox8027]

Check out IraqVeteran8888's review of it. He had a can on his the entire time.

[@Cato5_0]

We really appreciate this honest review. Now my wife wants one.

[@gregorybowman6507]

Chris, great review as usual, but, I'll stick with my Sub2000 Gen2. It has been a reliable and accurate addition to my working-gun inventory for 2 years now (yes, it has an optic on top) and has proven itself multiple times. Thanks again, ALWAYS enjoy your reviews, keep'm coming.

[@thePaulFlagg]

Facts

[@datrendsetta]

Agreed !!

[@rohawaha]

I think my wife would love this little carbine , hope to find one soon .

[@believe722]

It seems pretty sweet, maybe they'll work out a few kinks in the second version. I do like to see Mrs. Outlaw shoot, she's pretty damn good! I agree about some of the changes that should be made on this particular firearm.

[@joeyboy6515]

My first intro to this gun. I didn't realize it existed until now and it's something I've been looking for. Will check out other reviews on it.

[@jonn8163]

I kinda really like it. I already have 3 9mm pcc’s but I may have to get a 4th. Would love to see a 1,000 round review

[@mikejaan66]

What do you have?

[@axelpeone8600]

genuine question, why do you have 3 pccs?

[@MolanLabe78]

@@axelpeone8600 i would put my money on, because he wanted them.

[@axelpeone8600]

@@MolanLabe78 nooo, never could be that

[@jonn8163]

@@axelpeone8600 probably because I have an addiction for firearms. I have 3 too many of soooooo many guns and rifles.

[@IvanRossS]

Order mine last night. I love foldable in the sample firearms I'm very passionate about them. So I realizd I got to have one in my collection!!

[@mikemcmanus116]

If this ppc was out when I bought a Sub 2000 MSeries with the MCarbo operators package I probably would have bought the Smith. I really like the Sub 2000. Comparing the basic Sub 2000 to the MSeries with the operators package is like comparing a basic Camero to a Vet! No plastic trigger parts, can fold with an optics mounted, compensator, improved release latch, etc. In short it has all the MCarbo internal and external aftermarket upgrades. I really like it a lot. It is very accurate and reliable but it costs-at least $1,100!

[@DaveInOroValley]

I ordered one earlier and from what I can see I'll be very happy with it from this review.

[@JoshuaLenerville]

Yes, everyone else is doing a review on this gun today but your opinion is the only one I will take seriously.

[@mtnride4930]

Ordered one on 12 April 579 bucks and it has already shipped. Looking forward to it.

[@EngineersArmory]

With so much similarity to the M&P 2.0 pistols it is insane to me they didn't carry over a thumb safety! The ambi thumb safety on the M&P 2.0 pistols is decent and functional. Looks like there is plenty of real estate for an ambi safety on the frame/grip as well.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

Yeah, they should try to make all the controls identical in layout to the pistols. Simplifies training immensely.

[@J.Young808]

Probably a packaging issue

[@EngineersArmory]

@@J.Young808 Likely. The firing mechanism in that grip frame, while it looks like an M&P 2.0 pistol, is completely different. It has to be an internal hammer to smack the firing pin in the bolt. It is not an internal pre-cocked striker system like the pistol, so the mechanism that makes the thumb safety work on the pistol would not work on the mechanism of this gun. I don't really think that would be a hard issue to overcome with some design work/iterations. A thumb safety in the back could be a simple mechanical hammer blocking device. I do think this is a cool idea, platform, and first go at it. Hopefully they take customer feedback to heart.

[@markh.mckinney9632]

I'm so glad I lucked across you a couple weeks ago. Now, you're go-to for gun tests!

[@tfcooks]

I would use this more like a survival gun than a home defence gun. Packable, self contained, light weight, uses the most common ammo and good enough for hunting small to medium game.

[@tfcooks]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin No it's not. I'm not talking about the apocalypse. I'm talking about like if you're a bush pilot and you are forced to land in the wilderness. I think I made that pretty clear.

[@tfcooks]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin Yes, eating is one of the big parts of survival. If I was PLANNING to go out hunting I'd bring a hunting rifle. If I needed a small compact gun with ammo attached I could keep in my jeep incase I needed to walk out of the wilderness and take small game to EAT, this would be good for that. What part of that don't you get?

[@tfcooks]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin Eating is a important part of survival. If I was PLANNING to go hunting I"d bring a hunting rifle. If I want a compact self contained gun (including ammo) I could throw in my jeep on a camping trip and for some reason had to hike out, this could be a good option. What part of that don't you understand?

[@adamchamartin]

Thx for the review. You solidified my decision to purchase the FPC over the Ruger. Keep it up bro......

[@oleboy7615]

Another excellent video! The folding mech is a little awkward, but with just a little time you got smooth with it. This would be a great option with the upgrades you suggested. Well done!

[@thomasholt8783]

Just bought 1 yesterday. Can't wait to try it out

[@JACKBLACKTOSE]

Looks great and could easily see it as a viable truck gun. If this came out in 5.7 I'd probably check it out.

[@JohnnyBravo02]

Why would you rather have it in 5.7, range or ?

[@coyote520]

Picked one of these up today, and I really like it quite a bit.

[@StudSupreme]

Interesting. In other reviews, the first thing that worried me was the non-adjustable stock. Also, I don't have an M&P but a sig sauer p320, which means I would have two different sets of magazines. The fact that the extra magazine well in the stock is a bit awkward makes me even more hesitant. It's still interesting, but I'm inclined to wait for the 2nd version.

[@KingPhilipsRideshare]

This is a keltec sub2000 without multi mag

[@RealHankShill]

Non adjustable stock is likely to make OAL over 26 inches for the batfe

[@user-mr4wl6pg6f]

The bolt catch/slide release of most m&ps break in. Happened to my shield plus where I was trying to press the slide release forever. The slide release broke in around 300 rounds. Works flawlessly now without much pressure

[@mattwalters6834]

That’s what I figured.

[@Daniel-wk5ib]

Chris for your information, the grip receives 15 round magazines from the popular M&P Compact. The magazine sleeves are there so that you can use 17 round magazines from the full size.

[@mars4rok]

I think he was referring to the ones on the twenty three rnd mags and the answer them would be so that you can use the 23's in a full-size or the compact.

[@Jay-vj1km]

Will these mags fit in a shield plus?

[@sclegalcarry7979]

Thank for your honesty in the review. But I upgradded my Keltec sub 2000 with the Mcarbo trigger. I have been running it for years. IDPA and having fun at the range. Everyone I shoot it with enjoys it. You gotta have the optic mount that flips to the side to close it. I have had good service out of sub 2000. After watching your review of the S&W I am gonna stick with my Keltec. Love your videos, Be Safe Tim

[@docgillygun9531]

Now we are getting into a product where the 5.7 cartridge might make better sense. Looks like some design refinements and this would be a badass backpack or truck gun.

[@T_D_B_]

I thought the same

[@Matt-yg8ub]

That’s essentially what they did. That’s why the 5.7 cartridge exist because they built something that works for both the pistol and rifle.

[@craigderosa7708]

How much?

[@jimorth6306]

5.7 ammo is way too expensive for most of us.

[@clydepace9203]

I'm glad to see that it doesn't drop the magazine when firing left-handed like the highpoint 9mm carbine does.

[@clsr1911]

What I love most about this style of PCC is the smaller size achieved by having the mag run up through the grip. I would love to see a comparison against the Beretta Cx4 Storm from a home defense perspective. Since the brace rule could now dissuade me from going that route.

[@johnlloyddy7016]

A comparison with the Kel Tech Sub 2000 would probably be more appropriate as design wise they are more similar, except for the direction the barrel is folding into.

[@Fiya_gamez]

Because it has the folding brace but 16", it needs to be registered correct?

[@marknottage]

Mrs. Outlaw's second string played Jingle Bells! LOL!