Honey, I Shrunk the Printer!!! - Elegoo Mars 5 Ultra Review

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0:00 - Introduction: First Impressions of the New Printer
0:58 - Key Questions Answered: Tilt Mechanism and Purchase Worthiness
1:10 - Design Features: Technical Stripes and Lid Mechanics
2:00 - Practical Considerations: Space Requirements for Use
2:36 - Technical Specs: 12K Display and Print Quality Misconceptions
3:26 - Screen size and Print Volume
4:00 - Unique Features: Tilt Vat and Resin Vat Design
4:39 - Transition to PFA: Advancements in Print Detail
5:01 - Build Plate and Z-Arm Connection: Design Enhancements and Concerns
6:37 - Mechanic Changes: Lead Screw vs. Ball Screw
7:01 - Ventilation and Filtering: Changes in Design
7:29 - User Interface: Orientation and Usability
8:01 - Localization Errors and UI Details
9:00 - Resin Calibration Feature: How to Use It
10:02 - Print Quality Summation: Comparison to Saturn 3 Series
11:00 - Model Showcase: Variety and Detail of Printed Models
12:44 - Slicing Software: Transition to Chitu Box
13:56 - Remote Printing and Storage: New Features and Limitations
14:03 - Tilt Mechanism Benefits: Reducing Print Failures
16:01 - AI Camera and Failure Detection: Limitations and Potential
17:55 - Installation of Additional Lighting: User Modifications
18:17 - Conclusion: Should You Buy This Printer?

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[@erre333]

Please 🙏🏻 we definitely need a video of how to use the calibration feature on the Saturn 4 ultra. It’s very confusing. In all the groups of Facebook this has been a major issue as well as settings. Lots of people are having a hard time levelling the plate and getting things to stick or to release easily from the plate. We definitely need a good tutorial from a real expert like yourself. On a side note thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and a keeping it real. Sincerely thank you.

[@cracklova3299]

Yea i cancelled my preorder after seeing this

[@strangersun7721]

I've been printing like mad with it. Haven't run into an issue. Will have to look into what folks are saying

[@Mrpancake72]

I also have an issue with my saturn ultra and going through customer service hell. The back of the build plate is not pressing against the film. Using a piece of paper cut in half you can move the back portion with no resistance. The front is snug like it should. Customer service has been notified of this and they are starting me with the "is your screen working?"

[@FauxHammer]

I’ve heard of this and will do some research.

[@erre333]

@@FauxHammer thank you kindly 🙏🏻definitely looking forward to seeing that video.

[@TheMugwump1]

Hey I was just thinking of something that I don't remember you talking about that can save people a decent amount of $$ on cleaning materials. You may be able to add this to a video. Most people should know you don't want to throw out uncured resin on stuff like gloves and paper towels. I've seen people talk about throwing that stuff in the cure station, but that just makes a mess. What I do Is use a small wash basin in front of the machine when I pull the plate off. The plate goes in the basin. I pop the parts off, and put the plate back on the machine. Next I remove the prints from the supports and wash them. The bin then gets put either in a window or outside for a few hours to cure everything. You can pop out all the cured resin from the wash bin and throw it away. Don't forgot to throw your paper towel etc. here as well. Move things around every now and then if there's a lot of stuff.

[@RisingApe]

Haha 😂 thanks for the shout out and yes people, use Ross’s links

[@FauxHammer]

Any time!!!!

[@domcisme]

Hey dude just leaving a comment to support you anyway I can. Appreciate all the effort u put into these.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

I'm glad you've continued using the Micron measurement you outlined in that one video, make it a lot easier to compare the printer's detail capabilities

[@FauxHammer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Immolate62]

Picked up one of these for smaller jobs and one for a friend who owns a games and comics store and who hosts our weekly game. He does a lot of 40k, but GW is making life difficult on retailers and he's trying to stay on top of the trends. Now that ABS-like is a thing, he's getting more willing to explore options. I figure with a Mars 5 Ultra, he can get his feet wet. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a half dozen Saturn 4 Ultras cranking out models in a year. I used your link, Ross. Mazel Tov!

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate, and yeah! That’s how it starts!!!

[@SgtHouse]

As always, great review! Thank you!

[@FauxHammer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Lychee3d]

As always, great review 👌

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks so much!

[@nikroth]

We are in need of your crayons.

[@FauxHammer]

I’ll get the sharpener out!

[@GeekDetour]

Hi Ross!!! You got your video quickly this time! ❤

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate, made sure to have it ready for launch!

[@GeekDetour]

@@FauxHammer By the way I cannot find the Cones of Calibration V3 - the one with the Sword... Could you put a link for it please?

[@nicholassmith5206]

Love that this video is bang on 15 minutes. It's the lil things. Like the mars 5 😅

[@FauxHammer]

I know right, that was just luck. Could have shaved a second off to make it looks a minute shorter and get more views

[@logangravatt]

seems perfect for me as i only print small jewelry, thanks for the video.

[@monkeydad47]

Voice over sounds much nicer this time, thanks Ross!

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks mate, don’t watch my latest video, especially with headphones. Fucked it right up.

[@RocktCityTim]

Thanks, Ross. I got the pre-order email this morning and was curious about the resolution claims. You've answered them quite handily. I think I'll stick with my Mono X 6Ks for the size and keep saving for that Micron SLS 😁

[@FauxHammer]

Ooof that SLS looks crazy interesting. Wish they would send me one!

[@RocktCityTim]

@@FauxHammer Saving my pennies ... at $2K US, maybe by 2027 ...

[@ChitosVids]

a follow up vid on that compression thing would be great! i wasnt aware of this and would love more info

[@larry84903]

Hey Ross, a video on layer compression would be great, I had no idea that was a thing and now I understand why my small 8mm models had weird lines.

[@gkaruk]

Another great review, and heard today the ETA for the Heaters is now Aug 2024. More time to save, boost the ole budget for a Q3 purchase :)

[@FauxHammer]

I have one on order but Elegoo said they would send one too

[@Lumi_nance]

Just bought mars 4 dlp. No worries regarding lcd

[@norseman9166]

Yup great model👍

[@FauxHammer]

Great printer and excellent longgevity too

[@nomojo1110]

Cheers Ross. Your advice to purchase a larger model over a few quality of life features certainly resonates and is appreciated. Now I'm off to check out this, 'Bi-pedal in progress primate' friend of yours ;)

[@NextGenBase]

Re the Cones of Calibration - I had the *EXACT* same issue with my Saturn 4 Ultra - If you look at the base on the one in the video and compare it to the actual STL, the floor is much closer to the skull/mug than it should be. I think this is down to bottom layer exposure time - I dropped mine down to 25 seconds and it printed perfectly after that. Completely amateur take here, but it looks like the plate is rising when longer exposure times are happening, making the base layers a lot thicker than it should be... Might be miles off, but glad to see the 'compression' issue is being mentioned (I print some stuff in my Etsy store directly on the plate, and the first ones I tried on the S4U weren't sellable due to this issue)

[@awildtomappeared5925]

it's not bottom exposure time, if you can try longer wait times and also see if the printer allows you to adjust the z offset. on previous ones you could send the plate to hom and then move it and then set z =0. This was for if you leveld and the height in each corner was similar but they were all eg 0.5mm low. This should auto zero but it's clearly not doing it well which could be fixed by setting a higher z offset, that or the springs are compressing when they shouldn't which could be fixed with longer wait times.

[@NextGenBase]

@@awildtomappeared5925 I don't know what to tell you, all I did was change the bottom exposure time and it fixed it for me - went from looking like the one in the video to looking exactly like the STL 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@FauxHammer]

Did you reduce exposure time then? I got base exposure as low as I could before stuff started falling off. But Tom knows what he’s talking about, he’s the one to explained the compression issue to me. I’ll learn more and put a video together. Once I know how to consistently show it and how to test and resolve it

[@NextGenBase]

@@FauxHammer Just the base exposure - It was at 35s, dropped it to 25 and the issue went away. Not discounting any info at all, it's literally all I changed and it fixed it. Intrigued to see a video on the compression thing, it's plagued me across multiple prints and printers for a while until I found ways to work around it

[@awildtomappeared5925]

@@NextGenBase thats not what I would expect, but the spring system is well throwing 4 springs in the works so anything can happen.

[@the_arcanum]

Get your crayons out Ross ! I definitely would love to learn more about layer compression without having to endure a 90mn scientific lecture detailing their methodology test bed or the fundamentals of fluids mechanics.

[@originalSPECTER]

Will be purchasing my first resin printer for miniatures at the end of the summer so I’m anxious to see what’s available at that time. My priorities are accuracy, ease of use, ability to easily hook up ventilation (gonna be venting it to the outside with fans). I’m particularly interested in the projector (DLP) printers, but none of the consumer brands seem to be making any new ones.

[@jeremiahembs5343]

Except for the tilt all those features add to the cost of the machine and will cause extra problems. Resin printers should be as mechanically simple as possible so that they are super easy to clean which is super important for safety. They shouldn't have any nooks and crannies for resin to hide in. They shouldn't have any additional parts like cameras or sensors that would require extra trouble shooting or that could get resin on them. I'll stick with my Mars 2 Pro. It's easy to maintain.

[@FauxHammer]

I'm pretty sure the tilt also adds to the cost and can cause extra problems.

[@WireHedd]

I was looking at the promo page for this and was thinking many of the same things you brought up about the size. I'll stick to the Mars 4 Ultra and see what happens instead. Thanks Ross, good video. Total protonic reversal. Right, and that's bad. Okay, good advice. Thanks, Ray.

[@FauxHammer]

Hahah, thanks mate. Glad we are working the same language!

[@3dpathfinder]

Do i have to do something to get my name back in the credits? This is the second vid i havent seen it...i live for it lol

[@FauxHammer]

I’m really sorry. It really should be there. Let me check first yoh specifically on the next update. But it’s updated at the beginning of each month.

[@sanke00001]

Great review! I was wondering if you could tell me where you found the cones of calibration v3? I’d love to give it a go, but can’t find it anywhere

[@rowanwinged]

With the Saturn 4 Ultra coming out in the next few weeks I think an explicit guide to the exposure test process would be great. I would like to know if it would be ideal to use the cones of calibration or some other test.

[@FauxHammer]

On it! May not have it out soon…

[@SebastienChedalBornu]

yes a simple explanation about the compression issue would be appreciated

[@mosab84]

Get the crayons, I’d love a video about the compression issue!

[@walterrldias]

Great Video Ross!! will click on the link as soon as I commit. Would you please let me know if the Mars 4 Ultra has antialiasing working? Also I have got killer resolution with it, using normal FEP, the validation matrix is very crispy. Am I delusional? What is your opinion on the resolution of the Mars 4 Ultra?

[@FauxHammer]

Thankyou. I’ve no idea if the Mars 4 ever fixed the antialiasing issue. I’m not sure they did. Mars 4 ultra is same resolution as this

[@canalpan9]

thank you mister

[@FauxHammer]

Thank you too!

[@GrayeWilliams]

Hey hey hey hey hey. Slow down. I WOULD watch the rest of the video. I knew how titanic ended, still watched it. I’m here for those dulcet British Tones™.

[@FauxHammer]

Hahah, the slower I talk the longer the video. The longer the video, the fewer people watch when they see the timestamp. Also it costs me mroe to edit a longer vid

[@GrayeWilliams]

@@FauxHammer no no, I mean slow down with the “you wouldn’t watch the rest of the video” talk; we’re here for a good time AND a long time 😂

[@FauxHammer]

@@GrayeWilliamsahhhhh!!! lol. Thanks. But trust me. Most wouldn’t 😂😂

[@mythrando]

Simpleminded compression video, yes please!

[@d4nzu_]

Dimensional accuracy depends on the resin used; light intensity alone won't help in achieving it. Some low to medium quality resins can be adjusted for either tensile strength or dimensional accuracy, but not both simultaneously.

[@thatblastedsamophlange]

I'm torn about this. I like some of the features, on paper. My mars3 is still working well. I only consider the mars series, as I have limited space, and I really just use my mars for prototyping my miniature designs, so I don't currently need more. If the speed is increased, that would help immensely, so the tilt could be a great feature for me. Disappointing about the new cones of calibration not being fully successful.

[@FauxHammer]

Ist better than the Mars 3 but not by a huge amount. Speed is the main thing

[@maxpower8080]

Thank you for your revievs

[@ARG]

Hi, I noticed you said “you don’t know why people ever print direct on the build plate” is this always the case no exceptions ? Love the content by the way always my go to channel for 3d printing help and advice and I got the Saturn 3 12k.

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, I know why I preint exposure tetsts from the bed, but I don't understand why people would print functional/usable models this way rather than support them? The early layers will be overexposed naturally for adherance reasons, so yeah, why would you introduce that natural outcome to your result? If anyone has a reason, I'd love to hear it. That;s why i made the comment, hoping i get educated

[@ARG]

It makes sense to me but I printed a loads of micro controllers cases and if I support them I will get nubs all over the side I support. I need to have a play with it. Also get a Neptune 3 pro tomorrow ( also after watching your video ). I love you my wife hates you 😂😂😂😂

[@NextGenBase]

@@FauxHammer I'll take the flak 😂 - I sell printed trophies and desk-toy plaques on my Etsy store. They're designed in such a way that they don't need support if printed on the plate, and they also keep a very flat base that I've struggled to get with supports even with different orientation. Minis etc, I understand, but there are dozens of us. Dozens!

[@user-cf3vr8yt8j]

The same calibration issues you showed here I'm currently having on my new Mars 4 Ultra. I changed to nFEP but I just can't dial the resin in precisely, like I have on all my other printers (Phrozen Mini 8K, Mighty 8K, Mars 3...). The tests tell me that I need both shorter and longer exposure at the same time! The resin needs more exposure to build tensile strength as small stuff gets ripped off, but at the same time I already see clear signs of overexposure with small gaps starting to fill, small details get slightly bloated with less sharp edges. This has never happened on any of my other printers. I'm getting close to giving up on it and sending it back. If this is the same on the Mars 5 then there's no point for me.

[@vascogabriel3696]

Hey there! I’m new to the 3D printing world and I’m deciding between mars 4 ultra, mars 5 ultra or anycubic photo mono M5s for my 1/24 scale car parts (wheels, body kits,…). Which one do you recommend? Im more interested on the elegoo ones but don’t know which to choose from the 3. As always, great review! Keep up with the good work! Cheers from Portugal

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks. I favour the Saturn. But some people may need the heater in the Phiton. And with the photon you need to change the release fim to get the same detail.

[@pingbot261]

Dang im looking forward to this! Too bad i already ordered my s4u

[@FauxHammer]

Too bad? I think you’ll enjoy the video

[@frbrbrgrblgrr7777]

​@@FauxHammer oh oh lol

[@Loumenn]

@@FauxHammeroh no!!

[@michaelfranzgarcia7769]

the weird thing it i almost order S4u yesterday win for me i guess they really need to add a flexible plate

[@GeekDetour]

I think there is no reason for you to regret your purchase! The print size is quite bigger!

[@Venturestien]

Oooooo Where did you get cones of calibration with the skull and sword? I’m loving my S4U and it’s cute to see it has a smaller sibling now lol. 😆

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, the cones v3 is on their discord

[@LexOneGTPS]

Do I sense a hint of a 12-14k Jupiter coming soon? Now that my Jupiter is putting out prints with minimal failures I would hop on an upgraded one in a heartbeat

[@FauxHammer]

I can’t say. See you for a live video in the next couple of weeks

[@LexOneGTPS]

@@FauxHammer fingers crossed .

[@Gregatron13]

Maybe compression is why my post/holes calibration prints seemed so flat after i replaced the vat on my5S Pro. Should i try those with supports?

[@waralo191]

The Prusa SL1 SPEED already innovated the tilting bed 3 years ago btw.

[@FauxHammer]

Yet nobody bought it

[@waralo191]

@@FauxHammer Yeah, it was too expensive unfortunately

[@hugheja89]

Would be interested in the compression issue you spoke about at 4:54 :)

[@FauxHammer]

On it

[@mccommie9867]

Question, i see you recommended bigger printers at the start, but if it's just talking about print quality, and im not interested in the larger area, is this one better? Also because in the budget that I'm currently am 270 is a lot of difference against a 330 for a saturn 3.

[@FauxHammer]

No, later in the video I say that this is just not as sharp as those bigger machines either. But it really is a minimal difference

[@elisalas2026]

Hey what layer hight do you use personally for your miniatures❤❤❤

[@awildtomappeared5925]

16k 13 inch finally here? heard about those panels last year but it's taken a while lol

[@FauxHammer]

See you soon then!

[@NetanelDeriWorkshop]

The bottom layers compression effect can be decreased by using wait *after* cure time. Please try it....

[@FauxHammer]

They can on some printers. do you know why this is the case? if so, you probably understand why it's less likely here..

[@MartinTrebbin]

Hi, I want to exclusively 3D print relatively flat pieces but with max resolutions. I'd love to learn more about the compression issue and how you can actually get true 18µm resolution (microfluidics/microchannels with 50 to few hundred micron channel diameters inside the part). Thanks!

[@FauxHammer]

I’ll look to cover the compression issue. But I do t think you can get that accurate with it. At least not without hours, or even days if dialing g it in. And for that you want a more specialist technical channel. I’m the crayons guy

[@AdrianGreen-qr4yy]

good honest review of the 5. im not liking the new build plate they have on this and the Saturn 4. its just another faf that seems unnecessary, and even more so if its causing more compression issues. im going to stick with my mars 4 max for now. I think it would be useful for a 'compression guide for dummies' from you as you have a knack for no nonsense explanation and maybe if possible a way to help reduce this.

[@FauxHammer]

Yep, planning that compression guide… but bear in mind. As I said, it’s not just this printer. It’s all printers..

[@AdrianGreen-qr4yy]

@@FauxHammer i have noticed on my 4 max if i print directly onto the buildplate... i may have found a 'fix' for it from various threads. will let you know what and if it works

[@FauxHammer]

@@AdrianGreen-qr4yy no worries. is the fix, excessively long wait times?

[@AdrianGreen-qr4yy]

@@FauxHammer lol no, there are various views on it. from taking apart the printer and changing a rubber gasket (which is a nogo for me) to various re-levelling methods. i can email you the info if you want to look into it

[@FauxHammer]

@@AdrianGreen-qr4yyno worries. I’m speaking with a few people directly already. Turns out the solutions are various…

[@Legioneair]

Amazing review, but I am torn between buying the mars 5 ultra and saturn 4 ultra. I am an absolute beginner at 3D resin printing and mostly want to print miniatures or maybe larger dragons for dnd campaigns, does anyone have advice on what to buy?

[@FauxHammer]

Saturn 4 Uktra. Easily. It’s sharper, but also it’s bigger and whether is no is or not, imo this felt crippiligly small now I’ve had a bigger one

[@coopzilla88]

5:59 When you're focusing on the footage of the print and the build plate is close to the bottom of the vat, it looks like the build plate keeps getting pushed up but when the build has progressed a while, the build plate is steady as a rock. Do you think that might have something to do with prints suffering if they are printed directly to the plate?

[@FauxHammer]

Oh shit yeah!!! That’s the compression issue

[@luisarevalo4645]

Comment so Ross can buy more Legos. Been away for I while, catching up and binging. Hope you doing well. BTW, I loved your video on the painting. (I'll comment on that one in a whale)

[@FauxHammer]

I got the Milennium Falcon for my 40th! Glad to see you back.

[@luisarevalo4645]

Great gift!! Happy delayed b-day. Could you show them off in a future vid?. Have a nice day

[@FauxHammer]

@@luisarevalo4645 you too!! Umm maybe. It’s big!

[@jiidee]

I know little about resin printing, but it occurs to me that if the first few layers of prints are susceptible to compression artifacts, would it not be worth printing these calibration test with X mms of support materials under them to replicate the use case of having prints suspended from supports? Is that maybe a waste of time if prints on supports tend to come out decently anyway? I'm just wondering if people calibrate their settings based on getting the test prints to work when printed right on the bed when they're in that "zone" that is susceptible to warping, but are then printing stuff on supports anyway, then maybe the settings that were "dialed in" aren't actually *that* dialed in?

[@FauxHammer]

There is potential for that yes but I have seen it only once where the pressure release is where the details of a flat test are

[@josecabellopinto]

Hi! I have seen several of your videos about this type of printer, and in the latest ones, you talk about sharpness issues. If today you had to choose the best "mini" printer in terms of quality-price ratio, even if it's not the latest model, which one would you choose? Thank you!

[@FauxHammer]

Heya. HeyGears UltraCraft Reflex, but it’s not for everyone. But this is by far the best

[@josecabellopinto]

@@FauxHammer And in the same price range? $150-200? Even if it's an older model like the 3Pro?

[@FauxHammer]

Oh same price as this? I'd probably try to find a Saturn 3 , even if paying a tad more

[@peterclegg2609]

Possibility of an upgraded jupiter sounds good hopefully with the tilting vat?

[@FauxHammer]

Hmm, I don’t think I ever suggested a Jupiter…

[@peterclegg2609]

@@FauxHammer a bigger better quality elegoo printer I'm just hoping it happens, any chance you might do that armour from you mini It would be very cool?

[@catnamestaken]

Cool

[@FauxHammer]

Thabks

[@CornDogShaun]

wifi only works sometimes. other times it sends 0.01% of the file and you have to transfer via usb

[@USALibertarian]

I kind of wish they'd just fix all the obvious design flaws (and stop introducing new obvious design flaws) and just sell one model. I wonder how many people would choose a small format if the larger format was the same quality and almost identical price.

[@sayyahdina]

So if your budget can stretch the S4U is a better buy then this?

[@FauxHammer]

100% better

[@Katazo98]

Yeah so what's next the Jupiter 2/2Ultra or the Mars 5 Max ultra

[@FauxHammer]

No idea from Elegoo. I’ll speak more soon

[@henry.daniels]

Any idea about the mars 5 vs the mars 5 ultra ?

[@brendon6930]

Is the layer compression existent on the Saturn 4 Ultra?

[@christophergenovese9010]

Anti-aliasing is still a problem with my Saturn 2, which seems to produce identically aliased prints no matter how much I crank up that setting.

[@FauxHammer]

Really? Mine was fine… what sliver are you using. If it’s Lychee. That’s probably why. It’s a chitu based printer with a chitu motherboard. Chitubox is the way to go. 2xAA with 2x image blur and layer lines should be fine entirely

[@SOCMMOB]

I'm just still impatiently waiting for my Saturn 4 Ultra to ship.

[@FauxHammer]

Hope it’s soon!

[@W98Dragon]

Finally :) Cant wait to watch it tomorrow

[@FauxHammer]

Thanks, thumbnail kinda says it all!

[@W98Dragon]

@@FauxHammer Yeah I alread saw the features it had, but, I'll take the opportunity to say this, I really enjoy your videos, I love the long and detailed talks and your insights, so even if I already informed myself it's always a pleasure to watch your videos.

[@akumaking1]

Will there be a chance to swap older printers for the new one?

[@FauxHammer]

Doubt it. Sorry. You could try selling it on

[@JerryBWagoner]

Looks like a solid little printer. I've decided to pull the trigger at the end of July. Right now it's between the SU or M7 (this guy is a wee bit small). Certainly looking forward to comparison videos. :) Also, would certainly be eager to see a layer comparison video. Your video a few weeks back on settings was incredible!

[@staroversky]

For printing about 9 or less 32 mm miniatures (per unit) for Star Wars Legion, would this be enough or do you still recommend Saturn 4 Ultra? I don't plan to print any terrain.

[@FauxHammer]

I still recommend the Saturn ultra. It’s sharper. And I promise you will soon want to try bigger prints

[@Mrpancake72]

Boy i hope it works better than the saturn 4 ultra. Mine was defective from day 1

[@mag8mag8]

Did you already receive your Saturn 4 Ultra?

[@Mrpancake72]

​@mag8mag8 yes I pre-ordered it a couple months ago

[@mag8mag8]

Wow, I thought they would start shipping in mid July, nice

[@Mrpancake72]

​@@mag8mag8 I believe there were different waves. The fb group has a few of them already. I guess my machine was built on Friday

[@FauxHammer]

What was wrong with it? Did they not resolve it?

[@Shooter_FPV]

I think I'll stick with my Mars 3 Pro, and get the Saturn 3 for larger prints. The Saturn 4 Ultra and this 5 Ultra just isn't worth it, in my opinion...

[@FauxHammer]

Totally fair. Pick what is right for you. The Saturn 3 is ace!!!

[@DHyre]

Did I mishear or misunderstand about the Z axis having "dual linear rails"? I see only 1, while the Saturn series has always had 2, one of the reasons I'd gone Saturn from v1 and am awaiting my 4 Ultra.

[@FauxHammer]

Sorry, yeah. Only 1

[@qwijoma1873]

I would like a video about compression issue. My Saturn 4 Ultra WAS good but now has compression issues even with new Firmware supplied by Elegoo. Trying to resolve with customer service 😢

[@FauxHammer]

Ok, will do it. But it’s Nothing to do with the firmware. It’s a hardware thing. Something in your printers z-me Hankin’s has loosened/weakened

[@qwijoma1873]

@@FauxHammer Thanks! I will bring that up with Elegoo customer support.

[@nicholasleon7819]

hi faux! i’m getting ready to take the plunge into the world of 3d printing, specifically for miniatures, and i had a question about your own wargamer brand of resin. it is water washable, but would you still recommend using meth spirits regardless? in your beginner video you said that water washable resins absorb water and that can cause problems. would using meth spirits on your water washable resin avoid that problem? is it even desirable to do so?

[@FauxHammer]

Hiya, yes it is, and yes you can and yes I still prefer to do that myself. It can be cleaned with water unlike some other resins where water will just not dilute the resin at all, but I uses Methys mostly because a 20 minute bath with soften the resin and save you having to use warm water to heat the resin up which also makes the supports softer. Also, imagine cleaning a tile floor, you can clean it with water but cleaning it with something alcohol bases is still a more thorough clean. No idea why, I'm not a chemist, but it works.

[@nicholasleon7819]

@@FauxHammer Thanks for getting back to me! your channel is so helpful

[@poni7373]

What a shame that they didn’t change the lid to a hinged version and having a vent hole in the back of that lid. Really? Regarding printing directly on the build plate. I do that quite often with my Phrozen mini 8K. Just need to compensate using UVTools (which btw does not work on the Saturn 3 Ultra and i have yet to find out if it will work with the Saturn 4 Ultra. Reason I print on the build plate is that I print mant technical parts that have flat services and it is just easier to print directly on the build plate.

[@FauxHammer]

Sounds fair but it would not be as easy to angle the parts, support them and not need to worry about the uv tools requirement? Again, just curious

[@johnhinkey5336]

Unfortunately these new machines from Elegoo seems to have this build plate design even w/o the tilting vat (i.e., the Mars 5).

[@FauxHammer]

Yep. And I’ll talk about that soon in my Saturn 4 and Mars 5 reviews.

[@tomgrimes2674]

I’m brand new to 3d printing, and I just bought the mars 5 ultra and can’t even get a basic calibration matrix or cones of calibration to adhere to the build plate. Every print just sticks to the FEP. I’m using a castable resin (Power Resins Vintage) and using a fermentation band to keep the resin warm. But other than that, I can’t figure out the issue. I can’t try and see if the plate isn’t preoperly level as the machine is supposedly self leveling. Are there any other factors that could be leading the first layers of resin to stick to the FEP instead of the build plate?

[@FauxHammer]

Castable resins can be trickier because they are softer, often need longer curing times and slower speed. VogMan may be a better person to ask as he uses castables. I don't. but i don;t know how responsive he is in comments, please use your printer in slow mode, that's a setting on the UI. And Increase your base exposure times. try 1 minute or longer on base exposure. if that gets parts sticking to the plate at least, that's half the battle won.

[@tomgrimes2674]

@@FauxHammer thanks Ross! So far these are all things I’ve tried, but I appreciate you taking the time to help either way… I’ll just keep trying!!

[@FauxHammer]

@@tomgrimes2674 Hmm, I can't think of anything else to be honest. I mean, it could be too long base exposure too. I guess the other thin may be if your plate is not level? as shown in this there is a guide on levelling from Geek Detour?

[@jn6305]

That goofy build plate is a deal breaker for me. There’s just no need at all for that design when the auto Zero isn’t a needed feature

[@FauxHammer]

So would you rather level it yourself? I would. But that’s me.

[@leonkernan]

@@FauxHammer I've levelled my Saturn 1 a grand total of once. It's done a lot of printing since and never needed adjustment.

[@rodrigolopezarechiga6557]

what do you think that the standard mars 5 is only 4k? basically a mars 3.

[@FauxHammer]

I think it's a smart idea. without the Mars 3 being available, we had no printer at an entry-level price point until this.

[@passj4982]

anyone know what/where the primaris helm that he frequently shows off is? I went down a rabbit hole looking for it to no avail :(

[@FauxHammer]

I had it commissioned.

[@johnhinkey5336]

Meh, not for me as I need to print directly on the build plate (apparently for some non obvious mysterious reason to the reviewer). Maybe the Mars 5 is the way to go for those of us who print functional parts directly on the build plate.

[@FauxHammer]

the issue will be present on the Mars 5 too. as I said, It affects every printer ever made. It will take me a while to put a video together and I'd look up the compression issue

[@johnhinkey5336]

@@FauxHammer Yes, but this looks way way worse. In your video clips you can see the build plate flexing upwards every time the vat comes up - that's not good as you are mashing the screen/vat film into the build plate/previous layers/thin layer of resin trapped between the build plate/vat surface. If there is not enough wait time between the vat reaching the top and the start of the print all sorts of things will be flexing and moving around. You should try the "slow" mode. On my Mars 3 and 4 machines I have to slow things way down for the initial layers to avoid compression, which goes against fast printing.

[@johnhinkey5336]

@@FauxHammer Hey, thanks for these videos though! I always watch your videos even though I don't print miniatures, etc. (I'm a direct on plate part printer) because invariably I learn something useful.

[@pradeepjewelsmith6671]

Waiting for marsh 5 dlp 4k

[@FauxHammer]

Will probably never happen.

[@Hero1117a]

Why is your timestamp wrong?

[@FauxHammer]

Which one?

[@designatedcrafter]

Elegoo are claiming the tilt feature on the Saturn 4 and Mars 5 is "new and innovative", yet the Prusa SL1 had this functionality nearly 6 years ago. Why has it taken so long to catch up?

[@FauxHammer]

It was too expensive and never sold. Elegoo made it affordable

[@justinsher]

@@FauxHammer Regardless of its cost or sales numbers (which "never sold" is a not true), it is still effective tech that has been around for a long time, which I think you should at least state that Elegoo are catching up.

[@oxiandre4978]

I feel bad for buying the printer before watching the video, i wanted to contribute😢

[@FauxHammer]

No worries. Thanks for your intention of support, but so long as you got what you wanted. That’s what matters!

[@johnhinkey5336]

One can see the build plate flex upward every time when the vat comes up - that's not good.

[@FauxHammer]

At what part of the video? This is in the early layers right? If so, that’s compression

[@j2ehyp]

Hm. My Phrozen Sonic Mini 4k is starting to die (LCD is wigging out a bit) and it's probably time to upgrade... So the question becomes... Mars 5 Ultra or Saturn 4 Ultra, haha.

[@FauxHammer]

lol. Saturn 4 IMO, it's sharper and bigger

[@Daniel-oy4gu]

I’m torn between this and the Anycubic mono x 6ks.

[@FauxHammer]

This. X6ks is end of life. You already can’t get replacement screens. But I think you’d be better with a Mars 4 max if budget is an issue

[@Daniel-oy4gu]

@@FauxHammer thank you for the advice

[@user-wh2np1fs7z]

This appears to have a single linear rail, not dual like the saturn.

[@FauxHammer]

It does. But so does the GkTWO and that is awesome!

[@RWHobbies]

12:23 You prefer something 9 inches plus? 😢

[@FauxHammer]

10” ideally. Going back to something this small just didn’t give me the volume I needed

[@WithinWicked]

I love the videos, but this utterly confuses me. I just shipped my Elegoo Mars 4 Ultra back for a refund since I just bought it for quality, and then they announced they'll be revealing this in a week - so I used my refund policy. I was in a way hoping for quality improvements, don't know why. Either way... outside of being cool and informative, I am trying to establish where to put my money right now - since the only thing I care about is the quality of print. I print miniatures with the sole purpose of painting them for a showcase. Which means I don't print that many or need large volumes - quality and ease of use are the only factors for me. And I really struggle with figuring out what printer to get... is it this with 18 micron pixel size... or is there a larger printer that will still do a better job and maybe just have abigger build plate. I would take a bigger plate... but not if I get to see any layer lines or they come out after I've primed the mini.

[@FauxHammer]

Honestly when it comes to quality. You’re splitting hairs at this level. But the 10” 12 and 14k printers are a little sharper like the Saturn 4 or even the Saturn 3

[@WithinWicked]

@@FauxHammer well I am splitting hairs kind of... because in a way we already are at this point :D So you'd say I'd expect sharper results out of Saturn 4 (Ultra I presume?) over Mars 5 Ultra... I presume after replacing the ACF film for a regular FEP. Btw, nice job and opinions, worth supporting you :)

[@WithinWicked]

@@FauxHammer One final question... Saturn 4 or Uniformation GK2 with 12k upgrade ? :D

[@FauxHammer]

@@WithinWicked ask me again about a wekk into July

[@WithinWicked]

@@FauxHammer whats scheduled a week into July?

[@SportsCarsSpotter-pk4zv]

You are saying that this 18micron printer is worse than 28 micron saturn🤔

[@FauxHammer]

I'm saying it's not as sharp, yes. Just lik ethe Mars 4, But I did not sue the word "Worse"

[@SportsCarsSpotter-pk4zv]

@@FauxHammer well it should be sharper... please try lowering the light intensity for 20% - i had to do this on my anycubic 6k

[@FauxHammer]

@@SportsCarsSpotter-pk4zvHang on... I'll lower the light intensity by 20% which suggests I should also up exposure time by 20%... same result.?

[@Gregatron13]

Are you the Keymaster?

[@FauxHammer]

Not that I know of (knocks again)

[@jaakkosippola7191]

This is a weird thing to ask. You talk about anti-aliasing a lot during your reviews. If it isn't a bother would you make a video of how you choose your settings for that? Even if I am not looking for a new printer, I watch all the full videos you make and absolutely love the paint reviews. Not that I agree with them. I find that it is more of a preference when it comes to paints but it is always something new that I can look forward to seeing. Techniques you use and results. Results are more interesting to me than anything else.

[@FauxHammer]

yeah, that's how you should definately look at reviews. I was going to make that video this month. but Chituboix just changed all the settings in their new chituboix basic app!

[@jaakkosippola7191]

@@FauxHammer well I hope you get it done at some point. Now that I know it is on your radar

[@FauxHammer]

@@jaakkosippola7191 I will. it;s been on my radar about a year, i have a draft, then they changed it!

[@jaakkosippola7191]

@@FauxHammer bad timing xD but I can wait xD

[@wastucar8127]

I was hyped until I saw the price tag like, 😭

[@FauxHammer]

Really? Do you think this is too expensive? Have you seen the normal Mars 5?

[@wastucar8127]

@@FauxHammer I hadn’t looked at the normal one yet no, that price is a lot more reasonable for sure.

[@Zunip182]

Whose making a large detailed printer!?!? Heated? Tilting?

[@FauxHammer]

Come back in 1-2 weeks. Yes, No

[@theromeog]

Don't Cross the Streams - Advise from a Film and the Mens Rooms ! ! ! !

[@FauxHammer]

And an orgy!

[@forrestegan]

I still prefer the Mars 4 Ultra over this…I’ll stick with what I have.