HONKY TONK MAN ON WCW

THE HONKY TONK MAN ON WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
Longest reigning WWE Intercontinental Champion of all time ''The Honky Tonk Man'' talks about his time in Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling.
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[@billywilliams8753]

They could have put him with the Disco Inferno and had a pretty funny run with that

[@billywilliams8753]

@@devinlaheywho I've heard that before but, is it possible some odd that heat was just because many fans thought it was a bad idea to have an Elvis impersonator?

[@CyberSoulLover]

Watch the disco Hannibal shoot. I BELIEVE (if I remember correctly) disco was apparently supposed to come to WWF as his protégé

[@ArtistCameron]

Omg double hate

[@Captdrax]

I enjoyed him as a kid but really liked idea of him as a Manger in WWF in beginning of attitude era..to bad that didn't pan out he was good in ring on mic and commentary...

[@kingjoeytheape1657]

Alex Wright too. 🕺🏼

[@MrVisde]

HTM getting in a cheap shot, his opponent on the mat writhing in pain, HTM starts wiggling his hips while Jimmy Hart yells into his megaphone “You got the rhythm, baby!!!! You got the rhythm!!!!” ...best heel ever.

[@tylerbushong3452]

“You couldn’t carry Vince’s jock strap.” 😂😂😂

[@mayorhaggar1275]

He was right

[@tylerbushong3452]

@@mayorhaggar1275 didn’t say he wasn’t.

[@tomcollins3137]

Overweight CRYBABY---> decades of too many P B & J SAMMICH WITH A KIDDIE JUICE BOX. The tubby Elvis impersonation, bad look.

[@BuJammy]

@@tomcollins3137 Childlike comment.

[@lostways27]

This series gets better and better every part I hear.

[@kingsports1113]

Brad Armstrong was getting money for staying at home for a year damn I wish I work for wcw

[@richardcclark3696]

Yea..... me too

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

@Carl Munroe...And they said The Armstrong’s were cursed. Ha!

[@ericphilbeck7858]

Damn right! WCW was fucking up themselves in the ass by giving free money away.

[@georgedoughly8682]

Absolutely!! Me too!

[@1223steffen]

Wwe is doing that

[@j.c.ca.o.l7035]

Wayne Ferris always struck me as someone who told it like it really is.

[@craignelson9045]

Yeah. I love Ferris

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

I love Honky Gimmick.

[@liltd87]

My bag is already packed and the cab is waiting. lmfao

[@reclusiveperson9409]

As I’m older looking back at HTM in the 80’s, I realize what a great heel. He knew how to make people hate him. He was great. Sad thing is he would have been squashed and held down in WCW.

[@ericphilbeck7858]

Bischoff's fault

[@DaDitka]

The older I get, the more that I too have greatly appreciated these guys. HTM was a tremendous heel and really knew how to get the fans to hate them.

[@hokumdog]

@@ericphilbeck7858 good htm sucked

[@ericphilbeck7858]

@@hokumdog he would a good fit for a world TV champ or world tag team champion with a good partner.

[@minewheaties5029]

@@ericphilbeck7858 Not just Bischoff's fault. Society's fault too. By 1992, playing Heartbreak Hotel on a saxophone was popular enough to aid a landslide Presidential victory. Elvis couldn't have a heel parody when diehard Elvis fan Bill Clinton was in the White House. Attitude was shifting back in favor of Elvis even among certain adult aspects of society who thought they could outgrow him. Frequent Graceland visitor Carla Tortelli on Cheers was even a sign that that was impossible.

[@kingsports1113]

Lmao I'm crying about that Brad Armstrong story lol

[@Phoenix7786]

Damn HTM rules in these shoots. I am totally on his side about not jobbing for pennies and no contract. He knew Bischoff's reputation and saw through his treachery.

[@mrmarcus200525]

HTM knew his worth.

[@jeniffer9248]

Thank God he never met Paul Heyman then...

[@johnmcduffie3095]

I hated his gimmick, But he could draw heat. He was an excellent heel.

[@theloaner4378]

I sorta like him , but somehow Bischoffs version of those events seem more plausable.

[@cw5312]

He was a awesome heel

[@richardcclark3696]

Yes he was a very good heel

[@paleocat6354]

Wow what about Alex wright, the mummy and other gimmicks in wcw ?? They knew nothing

[@jpjonesh6247]

His gimmick was fuckin great

[@mider9996]

You couldn't carry Vince's jock strap. Fucking epic

[@stevearnold8265]

I rewatched that 5 times and laughed every time 😂

[@LeoWhalen1933]

Wow. Being flown into a city to make $1000 for a 30 second interview....life is tough...

[@Frankf9382]

he probably paid for the flight as he is not on a contract

[@AlistairMaxwell77]

@@Frankf9382 he said they flied him . He is working 1 -2 nights a week earning 2k but others are on 400k a year contracts for similar work and less return

[@GeorgeSquare]

@@Frankf9382 that never happens. The wrestling companies always fly them in and out - although most of them have their own road and hotel expenses though. That's why you hear of them car sharing hired car's and rooming in hotels. Decent hotels in USA can be very expensive, especially if you want the room to yourself irrespective of what money they might get paid on the house/their contract or whatever.

[@hoponpop3330]

That’s 30 seconds on camera. If he was flying from Phoenix to Atlanta or Nashville that a minimum two or even three day trip. If he paid for the flight and hotel. It’s crazy to do in one day. Depending on the time of the interview He would have to get up at 3AM for 6:30 flight that arrives in Nashville at 10:30 or 11:30 AM Getting from the Airport Downtown and having lunch the interview is probably at about . 3:00 PM . Yes you could probably rush back to the airport to make an early evening flight and be back home by 10-11 Pm That’s if you skip dinner. No human being is doing that more than a dozen times s year. Atlanta is even worse to get out of than Nashville. You tell me that’s a good gig in the entertainment industry we’re guys are making $300000 a year. He would have to be crazy to work the day before or after that ordeal.

[@maxxxmodelz4061]

Well, that's not a lot when you consider he had to pay for all his expenses too. So a plane ticket to the show was around $200, then another $200 back. So now his paycheck is $600 for a 30 second spot. However, now he doesn't work again until the next week, so that $600 has to last the next 7 days. Oh, and don't forget he has to pay taxes on that money. It's gross income, not net income. So take another 25-30% off that $600 for the week and all the sudden it's looking not so great. If he was lucky, he'd get two shows in a week, but that didn't happen all the time.

[@tommieo8212]

Listening to this made me realize Conrad Thompson brought this video up during an interview with Eric Bischoff, without even giving Hannibal any kind of acknowledgment.

[@TheHannibalTV]

Yep he never gives anyone credit but Meltzer for info he uses.

[@nick56677]

​@@TheHannibalTVExactly. At least u are original unlike Meltzers Soap Boy Conrad the worst shoot interviewer of all time.

[@cpmg1978]

Honkytonk man was a good heel back in the day.

[@adriancarlos9155]

He was a brilliant heel

[@sam-dn9hr]

Probably the best!!! I still wanna hit him now haha

[@carlosvelarde7948]

He was a good heel he could had been a exelentgood guy

[@rbartig]

"You couldn't carry Vince's jock strap." So true.

[@nanoblulovaolution4856]

HTM was a good wrestler. Eric helped close WCW even after the whole NWO thing blew up. I’m with HTM here.

[@DemetriusOnTheMove]

I miss WCW

[@carlosvelarde7355]

@i am demetrius i am with you i miss wcw to and ecw but honkytonkman is right wcw had his wrong doing business but i still dont think they should shot down wcw hust like i dont think they should shotdown ecw what i think should had happen is alots of wrestlers should stand up spoke up and fire erich bishoff and vince russo

[@jakelang806]

i dont

[@Haddley333]

Every time bischoff goes off about htm on his podcast I grab popcorn

[@kailasmenon2068]

I wish WCW would've hired me to sit at home.

[@pastorbristol2]

Don’t worry that’s what Joe Biden is doing now 😂

[@jimcarson2977]

No . That's not what he is doing . Your former clown in chief and his fraud family were using their position to steal money .

[@pladampa]

I'm just saying he put on a good show and i want to thank him.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Armstrong got 150K just staying home and continued with a 2 year contract after that? 450K for three years doing nothing....WOW! I wish I was him at the time.

[@TheHannibalTV]

Lanny Poffo had about 3 years pay from WCW for doing nothing but bleaching his hair and sitting at home.

[@ChrisC11291980]

Iron Sheik had a hundred grand contract there for one year in 1989 and they sent him home because he couldn’t go anymore and forgot to terminate him so his contract rolled over and they had to keep paying him for another year. Wasting money was nothing new to WCW in the 90s.

[@saveus228]

Brad was talent, whoever thought he was better sitting at home than on the show doing something, anything is an idiot

[@1223steffen]

Wwe does that too

[@dbaumann25]

Im not sure if his hair reminds me of Elvis or Ace Ventura???

[@excelsciors]

More like the cartoon Johnny Bravo!

[@DrRawBalls_TheDummy]

Daryl Baumann yes definitely Ace with that shirt he is sporting 😂 😂

[@Haddley333]

Lmao

[@JWS1985]

I agree with HTM on this. Bischoff's biggest thing was that his gimmick was outdated, which is absolutely ridiculous given some of the other guys who was on the roster at the time. HTM knew how to work the crowd and still could've been used.

[@mariomanningfan]

Being the guy people want to see lose is just as important for selling tickets as being the guy people want to see win. All of you refusing to give this guy credit for being one of the greatest heels of all time only understand half the business. You think he didn't know he was average in the ring and people hated his gimmick? Of course he did. Being arrogant to boot made him one of the most hated wrestlers ever.

[@excelsciors]

While HTM was a silly gimmick. And Jimmy Hart being a Col. Doink The Clown had it worst. I'm sure Matt Bourne didn't like dressing up as a clown to wrestle!

[@jermainemartinez551]

@@excelsciors Adrian Adonis had it worst in the WWF

[@DaDitka]

There was a running debate that Roddy Piper had with Hulk Hogan concerning the main event at Wrestlemania I. The debate was whether the fans wanted to be there to see Hulk Hogan (Hogan's position), or whether the fans wanted to see Hogan beat up Piper (Piper's position). I think Piper is just as right as Hogan, maybe more so. Good faces need good heels to beat up on and even lose to. Could you imagine the heat that would have been thrown at Piper if he had cheated at that match and he and Orndorff would have won? I know that wouldn't have happened, but I don't know if Madison Square Garden would still be standing! Lol

[@davy1972]

He's so right about what "Vince bought."

[@Midnighthour71]

Love the Brad Armstrong story.

[@MusicDude86]

+Midnighthour71 They had some real dipshits working there. All you had to do was sign in and they figured you were working lol.

[@Midnighthour71]

+MusicDude86 Pretty much what will happen with my job in the new year.Seriously!We have no supervisor anymore due to budget cuts and no one will be watching over us.So I might pull a "Brad Armstrong" and stay at home all day and get paid for it(LOL!!!).

[@excelsciors]

@@Midnighthour71 Just make sure the head honchos see you a week or two in the building before your contract expires!

[@tkdguy5494]

HTM was a great talent and a great entertainer both in the ring and on the mic. He was one of the best. No wonder WCW went under.

[@SteveHolsten]

Thanks for posting these. This shoot series was his best in my opinion. He didn't go off with his crazy shit.

[@stevenoliviero3652]

God what a smart man this guy is ,,,very professional interviews he does...

[@santinocaceres5150]

Didn't this happen at Starrcade 94?

[@paulmorris4880]

yup

[@Rockabillyman26]

WCW could of made Honky Tonk Man a top heel star, if they had paired him with Col Robert Parker and have a great run with the US title, he could of drawn alot of heat, had they done it like that, but as usual WCW was always famous of not knowing how use a star, especially like the Honky Tonk Man.

[@ericphilbeck7858]

Yeah, that would of been a great idea or make him a world TV champ defeating it against DDP, Marc Mero, Arn Anderson, and Flyin Brian,

[@Rockabillyman26]

@@ericphilbeck7858 Honky Tonk Man could have gotten some great matches great feuds during his time in WCW with WCW stars besides Johnny Badd aka Marc Mero like DDP, Arn Anderson, Flyin Brian, Dustin Rhodes, Marcus Bagwell, imagine a match with Ricky Steamboat the same man that he took the IC title from during their WWF days. Honky Tonk Man Vs Sting would have been a great as well, I think WCW could have done alot of great things with the Honky Tonk Man during his WCW run had he been used properly, had him paired with Col Robert Parker.

[@cdb5001]

Honky Tonk Man traumatized me as a kid smashing a guitar over Macho Man's head. I remembered him and hated him forever. How Bischoff could "not like him" just goes to show you how out to lunch Eric was. I enjoy Bret Hart's take on Bischoff.

[@anaximander66]

They should have dressed up King Kong Bundy as an Elvis impersonator and tried to sell him as the actual Elvis and was a heel. Honky Tonk Man goes babyface and tries to expose him. Then Bundy becomes a Honky Tonk Man impersonator and turns babyface and they become a tag team called "The Honky Tonk Men" and pretend no one can tell them apart.

[@davidgerow]

Whenever Eric Bischoff is ask about him giving away bad contracts he denies it. Lol

[@secularscot9804]

He'd have been far better between 94-96 as a top heel than Dungeon of Doom.

[@kingofkings69ner]

I wish I was making $150,000 to get paid to stay home by my job

[@felicity4711]

Well, I can understand that. If you don’t look out for yourself, who will?

[@hezamachine]

Brad Armstrong said in a shoot interview that he was fired from WCW in 1995 for failing a drug test. This was the reason why he went to SMW. After SMW closed he said that he asked for a job. They asked him if he could pass a drug test, he had a job. He was with WCW until it closed.

[@doctoraugustuskwembe]

Very interesting.

[@kingsports1113]

The best part is about Brad Armstrong lol he was getting paid still by wcw n wasn't use on tv for two years

[@cedricpowell9047]

Notice how he mentions Hogan a lot, wanna know why Bischoff fired him, there's your reason.

[@1969ryson]

Sooooooo many wrestlers seem to be bitter and seem to have very few good memories of their time in wrestling. Then most of them seem to end up totally broke both physically and financially.

[@starman5500]

this guy is one of the best wrestlers ever!!! If you lived through it then youd say the same

[@jakelang806]

i did i don't even have him top ten.

[@starman5500]

@@jakelang806 what is this david letterman...

[@chaddarnold1]

Probably not top 10 but good solid worker

[@Doncarpenterradio]

Why don't you mic the guy asking the questions?

[@felicity4711]

Also, if Eric Bischoff didn’t like HTM’s gimmick, why not create a new one for him? It happened often enough when someone came from WWF to WCW and their WWF gimmick was the Vince McMahon’s intellectual property.

[@jessyleppert2]

No Ferris owned the Honky Tonk Man gimmick

[@ladycharlenegrace8023]

"You couldn't carry Vince's jockstrap" 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 I'm the Honky Tonk Man 🤗

[@alexanderarce3341]

HTM went to WCW in 1994 not months later.

[@lorenzotodd4673]

this interview is good. The interviewer whispers and its annoying.

[@christopherwilliams7905]

I understand his point that the only thing worth money was the tape library but I find it hard to believe that if the trucks and rings came with the deal that Vince didn't take it

[@SuperMutant2099]

Htm right about contracts. It wasn’t just Bischoff. You hear stories about iron shiek and them forgetting to let him go in 90. Company was such a mess. Funny thing is Kevin Sullivan said back as far as 2001 or 2002 in interviews that Vince bought it just for the tapes

[@cappy2282]

Honky tonk man was greatest Intercontinental champion ever and WCW would still be around today if they were not incompetent

[@brockalbert5111]

WCW losing $100M/year is what made it so good. They way overpaid to get all the stars. The viewers didn't lose that money, the company did. The viewers actually benefited.

[@TheHannibalTV]

The same thing will happen with AEW to a lesser extent

[@anthonystanek1212]

@@TheHannibalTV I hope not.... AEW is getting 40 million a year for their wednesday night dynamite tapings/show. AEW just need to stick under a budget. Saying that this Honky Tonk Man interview was enjoyable. 3 million views and Counting. Well done Hannibal

[@MrTees-yl2hn]

He had some epic matches during his short time in WCW. But unfortunately, a lot of these matches were against the same opponents (Johnny B. Badd aka Marc Mero and some underneath/mid card guys that he faced on WCW’s B and C programming.)

[@CombatTalkRadio]

Tony Khan's cuts of guys getting paid to sit at home, brought us here.

[@minewheaties5029]

He needs to consider the fact that with an outspoken Elvis fan now President, his draw power was never going to be the same as it was from 1986 to 1990. Playing Heartbreak Hotel on a saxophone helped a landslide win.

[@kingkurteous03]

I have the shoot with him and Raven on dvd somewhere. I should probably dig it out of my collection.

[@JoeyMartz]

Lmao I love love loveeeeeeeeee listening to Wayne (HTM). He keeps it real.

[@ronsharer2986]

3 people killed WCW. Ted Turner, Eric Bischoff and Rick Flair.

[@acidmack1041]

Hmmmm....you clearly dont know what you are talking about....

[@carlosvelarde7355]

Ron shader dont forget hulk hogan

[@gchijioke12]

He’s the biggest ass kissin, butt suckin, bastard in this business.

[@O-Creep_aka_Stompanato]

Hogan and Russo might wanna have a word with you?

[@theryangarber]

HTM----legend in his own mind.

[@MrROTD]

His gimmick was perfect for a heel because most of the kids didnt give a crap about Elvis back then I was digging Metallica or Run DMC then I was a teenager but I still liked when Honky got in the ring.

[@WilliamChappell-f5w]

Like Steve Austin said wrestling is a cut throat business and he was right The things I've learned from former wrestlers that goes on behind the scenes Wow! What a business!

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

I really love the Honky Gimmick.

[@Lectricfuneral]

I don't care if he's "only"paying you $1,000 a week. He's still paying you. You accepted his money, now he's your boss. So suck it up, do your goddamn job, and do the job.

[@LUCKO2022]

He doesn't get paid until he DOES the job. So basically he told that POS Bischoff to basically fuck right off and rightfully so.

[@job489]

Respect comes into play as well. He felt mistreated at WCW. Mero was this new guy in WCW, but HTM already established a name and legacy at WWF. It's like if two video producers were doing the same job at a company with great results except one has a contract making nearly $60,000 a year, but the other makes nearly $100,000 a year. The other guy would be like, "Why does he get to make nearly six figures, and I don't when we've been doing the same job for years, and I have more credentials under my belt."

[@LuckyDT]

Vince Fox THIS.... well said

[@kyewilson7837]

Vince Fox we'll actually he didn't because he was promised a contract with more money and he probably didn't know a thousand is al, he'd be getting until, his first payday

[@xnoybis9967]

Stop crying

[@wrericdog]

Honky so true ,shake rattle and roll brother and sister !!

[@TalkingToTheBirds]

I’ve never been a hulk guy and I’ve always been neutral on Honky because his best days were before my time… but in this situation, he actually seems like the bad guy. He literally says he goes to hulk to have hulk politic for him and when hulk says there’s nothing he can do, that’s when their friendship deteriorated. So, the friendship basically ended when Hulk couldn’t help him anymore. Honky will only be your friend if you he can gain something from you.

[@ranielalmaria6612]

It's a wonder that WCW even put the WCW tv title on HTM when he wasn't on contract with the company.

[@markkal1804]

They paid Brad Armstrong $150,000, but they wouldn't even offer Honky a contract

[@newtuber9535]

HTM should be HOF!

[@adriancarlos9155]

He's not? I thought he was... But the Mcmahons are so petty !!! So you telling me that Goldberg is the HOF and HTM isn't What a load of shit !

[@garybaltiejus7248]

The Elvis gimmick was kinda weird, although him and disco would have made a funny tag team "the disco honky tonks"

[@omerbrooklyn8716]

Tonk was right. They were paying wrestlers to stay home and that contributed to the downfall

[@battlestarmarc]

Honky was a great heel in the wwf.

[@1carlportl]

Ted Turner such a fool

[@hanndonfield91]

how much are you worth?

[@richardcclark3696]

A big ass fool

[@boricio74]

Great gimmick to draw major heat. He worked the gimmick

[@nm7891]

HTM (also known as Wayne Tonks) lives in Phoenix nowadays. See him a lot

[@crazyinq8617]

HTM was my favorite!

[@GenGamesUniverse]

"Guy above Bischoff" *coughs*Hogan*coughs* *coughs*Nash*coughs* *coughs*Hall*coughs*

[@NathanLJustice]

Nash was still in WWF

[@arnabmukhopadhyay7078]

Wow, thats ta bit too much of coughing going around here

[@ItalianMafia34]

Looking at his match results, he lost to Johnnie B. Badd at house shows in WCW. He must’ve really hated to do that.

[@babayagaslobbedaknobba]

I actually think his gimmick made him a better heel, because it annoyed people. Lol! I loved it. But I was a heel guy. My favorites were always the heels.

[@kingsports1113]

Damn I wish work for WCW

[@thatssomecrazy1227]

Honky Tonk Mans character just never evolved by 1994 it was just old

[@chadjustice8560]

How do you evolve it lol

[@gregorylevi1826]

I can understand why HTM was like that but Hogan wasn't the reason why he got in it was Jimmy Hart.

[@jermainemartinez8282]

Vince paid those women hush money more than he did for wcw

[@dooganchode9447]

You can't job? That hurts your independent market? If anything it shows you can respect the business. Without a job, no one gets over

[@gregorylevi1826]

doogan chode it would have hurt his Independent market especially since he wasn't making hundreds of thousands of dollars like the others in WCW

[@nwowolf4591]

The greatest intercontinental champion of all time -Bruce Prichard 😂

[@jasonswacker6419]

Bill Shaw..

[@jayg6222]

One thing about honky… he’ll tell u what u can do with a job.

[@darealgodzilla]

No, by no means was he a good WORKER. But he was a highly effective heel who was responsible for one of the best angles in the WWF of the late 80s ("Who´s going to finally end the reign of this impersonator?"). When he finaly lost the belt there was nothing left for him to do and he bounced around the indys beginning in 1990. Obviously his stint in WCW was a favor to Jimmy Hart, who also wrote a new song for the HTM in 1994. But it didnt work out since southerners were apathetic. He was a big draw for maybe 2 years from 87 to 88 but then he quickly faded away.

[@r0ckstar666]

The honky tonk man is a hall of famer. Who are you again?

[@darealgodzilla]

@@r0ckstar666 im most likely not an infidel who's named after the prophet and a drug lord at the same time.

[@MrTees-yl2hn]

What I always found strange was the fact that for some reason WCW forced him to wear that shirt that looked like half of a tank top as part of his ring gear. I never really understood that as the thing didn’t cover much up and he always wrestled shirtless everywhere else to my knowledge. Plus, half the time the strap would end up being pulled down (either by him or his opponent) so what was the point of having him wear the damn thing? I supposed it could have added to his heel act and he could have used it to choke someone but oddly I don’t recall this ever being done and he could just as easily have choked someone with his bare hands or by using the ropes.

[@senorfrijol3713]

I definitely get his position. As someone who was a great hell and sold places out. I would not want to job to a random wrestler. When you are a veteran you have the right to refuse to do a job. He did everything in his power to get the gimmick over and it worked. He was hated and everyone wanted to beat him up. I always thought he was a good wrestler and good on the mic.

[@josephmiller9424]

Some might not agree but I think Honkey Tonk Man is top 10 greatest wrestlers of all time and Eric Biscoff missed the boat on him and Jericho , Benoit , Eddie.G , so Ecric did great with NWO and after that swing and a miss

[@countquackula8539]

Honky Tonk Man was an established character that can at least draw heat. Pretty sure he must of of rubbed Eric the wrong way or he just didn't like him.

[@GalDerAMA]

Honky comes across very well. Talls a lot of sense.

[@kingkurteous03]

What's everyone's favorite shoot dvd?

[@dankester5607]

HTM refusing to do the job for Johnny B. Badd is just arrogant sour grapes from a guy who didn't want to hurt his own character and couldn't see past his own hype. See, here is the thing... You can laugh at the Little Richard schtick all you want, and Lord knows looking back it can be hard to take Johnny B. Badd seriously. And you can give him shit all you want. The fact of the matter is Mero was a legitimate golden gloves boxing champion, and at the time (early to mid 1994) Badd was starting a push as a top contender. That year he would go on to win the WCW Television Title, the first of his three reigns. He had a solid push as a legitimate top mid-card guy, which is what eventually led to him getting the first guaranteed, million dollar contract in WWE in 1996. HTM not wanting to lose to him because he used to be the man and now he is on the bottom is just bitter and asinine. That would be like if Ronnie Garvin would have refused to lose to HTM in 1986 because Garvin was hot shit in another promotion for years before. And HTM seems to have forgotten two rules about the business; 1) fans want to see the heel lose, and 2) it's up to the established, experienced, and over wrestlers to, on their way down and out, eventually job to the younger guys to give them some credibility as contenders and performers. I can completely relate to not wanting to lose to a guy you don't respect, and I can sympathize with losing or ending in a draw on bottom of the card when you used to be the main event, but to go against the booking and refuse to lose to someone, especially without offering up an angle that might work as an alternative (see Jericho v. Goldberg) is shitty, and a man of his experience should know that.

[@IrishKyokushin]

Dan Kester exactly Mero as Johnny B. Badd was red hot at this point. The gimmick was goofy but Mero was legitimately talented.

[@spartybrearly7221]

Brad Armstrong could easily sneak in and out the WCW head office as Arachnaman.

[@killjoydklown]

Sooooo....his friendship with Hogan started to deteriorate when Hogan wasnt able to get him a push anymore? Whatever. Lol.

[@jayhellwig846]

This guy was one of my favorites, and i liked wrestling less than Jim did.He doesnt try to blow his own horn ,good guy sesms like 😊

[@teamchb3143]

I am sorry HTM, but let's be honest, you were never that big of a deal..never main event....a star, yes....a draw..to some degree.....but not main eventer...

[@MikeyMike-x4z]

At least Hogan and Jimmy Hart got him a WCW job....After WWF departure where was he gonna go....the Indys of course....How much more do you think he made more with WCW then if he just did indys...Iam curious