Hoplite clip 8

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Gamal Castile

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@peaceformula5830 5 ай бұрын

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@riverbullshark 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy these videos I like watching real life videos of how my greek / Mediterranean ancestors did it And I can tell by the way you move and know you're stuff you have done real life hand to hand work I am a ex bouncer and Thai fighter / boxer nice work on the videos keep up the good work mate

@gamalcastile 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! I studied Japanese karate for 20+ years and was an instructor, I am a former police officer too and was the hand-to-hand combat instructor, and I've also worked a few gigs as a bouncer.

@blaisegrabiak3245 4 жыл бұрын

Gamal, I see that you are favoring the overhand position. Having worked with sports trainers who specialize in shoulder injuries I am not convinced that overhand was the preferred hand position. The primary reason is impingement of the acromial joint in contact with the upper humerus. This impingement is less an issue in younger person and becomes problematic with long time use, such as baseball pitchers as a good example. As a bodybuilder I'm sure you have much contact with many other athletes with shoulder problems while this may not be present in the teens and twenty-somethings it becomes an unpleasant reality for many weight lifters in their 30s. I suspect that hoplite training, at least for those countries with standing armies would have meant long hours and years stabbing at targets. This overhand grip (as demonstrated in your video and the movie "300" for instance) is just the type of long-time repetitive motions that the athletic trainers have to deal with as a cause for the acromial joint impingement. Where as the underhand grip on the spear does not cause the same risk to the front portion of the shoulder joint. I would also like to point the many many examples of the hoplite as depicted in Greek art. Underhand grip over the aspis and overhand grip when stabbing under the aspis. I do very much appreciate your comment that you have finer control over the spear point with the overhand grip. I would much appreciate your response to my comment as this has been an area of study for me for some time. Thanks also for posting.

@gamalcastile 4 жыл бұрын

Great comment and you're actually blending both of my professions together! I studied kinesiology and am a trainer myself. The humerus is designed to adduct in the horizontal plane. This coupled with extension at the elbow allows forward movement of the distal extremity (like a punch, pushup, bench press or spear thrust). Impingement seems more likely to occur with excessive internal rotation of the humerus along with elevation causing the compression of tissue in the AC joint. Bench pressers often get this impingement not from the bench press itself, it's the imbalance many get from ONLY bench pressing and not allowing for proper strength and movement through the external rotation of the humerus or retraction of the scapula. So doing the anterior only contraction, in time they become internally rotated and the clavicles pull to the front and scapula protract. This sets them up for impingement. It the antagonistic muscles are kept balanced, you shouldn't experience this problem. Baseball pitchers experience it because the action of the pitch forward always involves internal rotation, over and over and over again. Most amateur players probably don't do an equal amount of external rotation, if any, to balance the joint, thus impingement issues again. Martial artists and boxers don't experience the same rates of impingement because the action of punching involves an.equal amount of retraction, working the opposing musculature. A pitcher has no retraction after the pitch. A sloppy bencher drops and often bounces the weight of his chest. But a puncher (or spear thruster) must equally retract the arm, working the posterior deltoid, lats and external rotators. So the spear becomes the extension of a punch in essence. Now, I don't believe this type of spear hold was the main, or most common, usage. The overhead/overhand grip with thumb back seems most logical in a tight phalanx. The issue of internal rotation and impingement really seems to be most evident in the overhead underhand grip with thumb forward! Every strike puts the shoulder into internal rotation worse than a baseball pitch. But a lot of this also depends on joint space. Some people can do an exercise like uprights rows with hundreds of pounds to know detriment, while others get joint inflammation with just a couple sets of a light weight. If there is very light AC joint space, you'll get impingement. If you've got a lot of space, your tolerance level is much higher. This was a great question btw and a perfect example of using another discipline to analyze history!