Horizon Plus Install + User Guide | Forza Horizon 5's Sim Overlay

[@HokiHoshi]

🌟🌟Here's that pinned comment! 🌟🌟 1. *You can bind a key to show/hide the overlay at any time, and I also discovered a workaround to make the overlay auto hide when not in a race!!* This is very helpful and honestly I should have put it in the video - so I whipped up a quick (unlisted and unmonitized so no ads) video to show how to do both of these things. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amHLn42YhLStsNE 2. Having Vsync and G/freesync on at the same time is known to cause issues. 3. Some users are having issues with the overlay loading at 10fps even though they paid for the 60fps version. First, make sure your license is applied! If so, it seems to only happen at higher than 60hz refresh rates. Personally, I play at 120hz/120fps with no issue but it seems users with 144hz monitors are getting conflicts. I'm looking into more permanent fixes but for now it seems that messing with your ingame FPS limiter seems to help!

[@dodgedemonstr4550]

Does it work on xbox?

[@AgentChaosMeme]

I have issue #3. 100+ frame rate and the overlay shows 10 fps even with paid license. :( Drop frame to locked 72 works but why would I purposefully gimp myself. :(

[@Vercinaigh]

3 is still a issue, pity, it's basically unusable like this

[@magnus8069]

the customisablility of the overlay is mindblowing, really impressed by sappy's work here!

[@iambrd1543]

I'm no sim racer but I feel like Horizon has been lacking this sort of stuff. This is so cool and I'll for sure be using it.

[@ReitmeierONE]

Horizon5 are lacking a lot of things )

[@Dajmai3]

solid tutorial man! I got everything I needed done in less than 30 minutes

[@carlomendoza6173]

Thank you so so much for bringing this content to us man!!

[@fish9902]

im in love with this

[@dylanporter8105]

I hope they add this as an official feature and the simhub creater gets a big shout out or job

[@ketflip7502]

Big thanks! Really appreciate that. For me is that major improvement. Boost gauge was exactly totally underrated. Now without loosing pressure in corners understand why unbeatable drivatars was faster. Placing the boost gauge into dashboard is cool and if tires sensor would be released as separate gonna put it there also.

[@itsunworldly]

If you do not see the over layouts try dragging and dropping the 'Overlay Layout' from the HorizonPlus download folder into the SimHub main folder, I had a problem with my overlay layouts not showing up and this is what fixed it

[@etsuko57]

its normal , the new version is no indentical with the version in the video

[@sverre5756]

Looks really good! But personally I prefer Sim Dashboard, Easyer to personelize exactly to my liking, And i deff prefer having Gagues in the middle of the screen, but that is jit imo. Looks great, awsome work from Sappytron.

[@eduardoramos6965]

damn now i wanna build a pc to have access to this

[@unanimous7188]

Thanks for these two videos, the features of HorizonPlus and how to install it. You explain things very well. My only question at this time, concerns new layouts, it comes with 1080p, 1440p and 4k, but how would I create a new one for, say, 720p? I'm older, thus my eyesight is not as good as it once was, so I upscale my monitors so I don't have to squint to read things. But using this, the different elements we can adjust default quite a lot bigger than yours are. I know we can adjust the size, which I have, but that still leaves the large font (which I'm sure is possible to adjust in this awesome program, but I haven't looked for, or come across as of yet). Changing the default resolution to 720p, or something else, should resolve this issue though. Also, I just remembered, when I first launched it, getting it set up, then reloaded the game and started adding different elements, they weren't aligned properly, as yours are (which I assume is how yours came by default. So I would have to manually adjust each element by looking at your video for reference. Of course, this also might be resolved if I got my resolution issues resolved.

[@Sappytron]

I was limited to the layouts I could produce, as I only have a 1080p and non-standard 4K monitor to use / validate (Shoutout to Forzurda and Saeenu for the 1440p/4K layouts) but I’m definitely looking for someone with a 720p monitor so I can add that to the preset list. ❤️

[@unanimous7188]

@@Sappytron ah, I got you, if you lived near me, I would, I think I have one, mine are 1080p but I upscale, not quite to 720p, but in the middle. it looks fine and I can read things easier. But thanks for the reply.

[@unanimous7188]

@@Sappytron Also, I realized if I decrease the Scale in System - Display for my TV that I play through, doing that helped resize the elements to fit more correctly.

[@eightymopar]

Simhubs overlay system is neat, but be aware you have to run in borderless window mode to actually use them. Be aware of this. Personally i have an old LG 7 inch tablet i use for a digital dash/overlays/maps ect. Edit: forgot to mention, buy the license. Its only a couple bucks, but its well worth it as it unlocks everything. Even if its something you may think youll never use, you never know. Its also cheap, and helps support the developer. The work hes done with this software is absolutely incredible, its regularly updated, and hes good enough to give away the core program for free, without ads. When the majority of sim gear uses and relys on simhub to function, it shows you how much faith people have in this software, and just how powerful it is.

[@ozgunsatc5551]

How to setup the dash on phone or tablet?

[@sealion_t_v]

thank u very good explain great work

[@hayleejetzt]

The UI doesnt show up after i load it and ive restarted my game countless times

[@HeadphoneMAN0017]

Amazing! Thank you for the guide. I have a question though is there a overlay available for wheel ffb graph or a ffb clipping indicator?

[@ROFLcopterZA]

This is awesome Hoki! I got the licensed version and imported the file to simhub but still 10 fps. I restarted everything and checked settings but don't see anything about it. Simhub reports 60FPS but in-game on the overlay I can see the super low fps. Do you possibly know what the issue might be? Thanks.

[@HokiHoshi]

Hmm that's odd! In the bottom left, next to fps it says "status: licensed" yeah?

[@ROFLcopterZA]

@@HokiHoshi yeah, tried it on beamng, AC and F1 and same thing. Will try getting in contact with the simhub devs on their site. Still many thanks though for showcasing this tool!

[@hawker870]

same problem here

[@BossBoomBox]

Here here, paid for the license and activated, 10FPS, feeling royally shafted!

[@bogdandejanu4733]

Yo guys, got a little help on their discord, apparently it has something to do with your ingame FPS cap, try getting it lower, i have a 71hz monitor and my Simhub were going 10fps too, got it caped at 60fps and my overlay works way better now, try it out! Thanks #MorGuux from discord!

[@jasonwhitwam197]

Great video! I'm stuck on not seeing anything in the Saved Overlays menu, though. I've properly exported the HorizonPlus files into the SimHub folder just as you did, ran as admin/reboot, click manual telemetry, and yet nothing for seeing the saved overlays. The Available Overlays list is fine, just no set resolution layouts. Have already enabled Data Out and entered IP/PIN, and rebooted Horizon just for grins and giggles, no luck. Any advice?

[@Sappytron]

If the resolution layouts don't appear, I'd recommend reimporting or checking where SimHub is installed and is pulling files from to make sure you have the right DashTemplates and OverlayLayouts folders. You should have 3 .olayout files in the latter folders if all is done correctly.

[@Tuberuser187]

Same issue here, no overlays for Horizon are in there and replacing them doesnt fix it

[@jasonwhitwam197]

@@Sappytron @Nonarei Still didn't help. I'll revisit over the weekend and keep checking this to see if anyone else is getting this figured out.

[@jasonwhitwam197]

@@Tuberuser187 Found the fix; had to manually extract the 3 resolution preset overlays to the Overlay folder. I re-extracted everything multiple times and for some reason kept leaving the Overlay folder empty.

[@Tuberuser187]

@@jasonwhitwam197 Thanks, will try it myself.

[@TrentBFaceSmall]

This is really awesome. Is it available for Xbox one also? Or just pc?

[@jamesmarshall4578]

pc only

[@Deschit]

Just a heads up If you have windows 11 with smart app enabled, simhub will be flagged and blocked from installing. If you turn off smart app control, you will not be able to re-enable it without reinstalling windows and will get a warning prompt advising as such.

[@d0x360]

you can override it. i wouldn't shut it off

[@Deschit]

@@d0x360 Once it's on, you cannot override it. You can turn it off, but then you will not be able to turn it on again without resintalling windows. The creators of SimHub would need to sign the app with a valid signature in order to install.

[@AYAALL_08]

Could you maybe make a forza racing guide like fh4 but updated since fh5 has different mechanics. Also maybe make a rally/off-road driving guide too!

[@theblower069]

Great video Lovely mod Thanks

[@ctk4949]

Awesome!! I use a Ultrawide monitor and all the info is all the way to the edges of the monitor. Now I can move it more in, so they are easier to see. EDIT: Never mind you cant move the speedometer or map in closer for ultrawide monitors. :( Oh well

[@twiikker]

There is a setting somewhere in game to adjust horizontal and vertical hud safe zones so by adjusting that horizontal safe zone you can move hud elements closee to middle.

[@HokiHoshi]

what twiiker said - you can set safebounds in the settings to push the UI elements further in!

[@el_p1nko]

@@HokiHoshi yep and interestingly the setting even carries over to Xbox, although you can still only use 16:9 screens if course, but still you can move the speedometer and mini map closer to the car.

[@CYNC33]

Links are there in the description now guys, cheers Hoki!

[@HokiHoshi]

Thanks for covering me for the first ~15 minutes there 😅 totally spaced it before making the vid public

[@mattgavioli6762]

Interesting, but I installed it and mine works well up until about 72 fps (locked from settings). If i try to play up to 144 fps as i usually do (or with unlocked fps), the overlay updates just every once in a while, becoming basically useless. Tried with vsync on and off, freesync on and off with licensed SimHub but to no avail. 6900XT playing at 3440x1400 would be cool to know if i did something wrong, otherwise i'll get back to it if and when there's a fix

[@cuubezzz]

the free version is locked to 10fps

[@DEZ7ROYER]

Same here. Disappointing.

[@HokiHoshi]

Simhub does have issues with users that run vsync and g/freesync at the same time, but outside of that I'm really not sure what could be going wrong. I play at a locked 120 FPS and mine still looks smooth. edit: I did just check at 144 and unlocked and everything was still working smooth for me, I'm guessing there's some conflict with v/free/gsync going on but I can't think of what.

[@taikeru5482]

Same here with licensed. Mine are run smooth at 72 FPS in game setting but if try setting to 144 FPS it will be crap. Idk what going wrong.

[@mattgavioli6762]

@@HokiHoshi thought about sync modes right away, and i tried tinkering with every related settings, but nothing changed

[@reneroux2391]

Amazing

[@ollie8998]

can anyone help? for me there is no saved overlay layouts when i look for them however in the video there is 3 of them.

[@lovalec9321]

I can maybe help you do you want help ?

[@wrxbjudy]

@@lovalec9321 maybe you can help me out

[@SaimonYT98]

Very cool thanks, but one question: there is a way to put radar in FH5 (like Assetto Corsa Competizione)?

[@22_cloud]

cool

[@nizzymo]

Would it be possible to add a way to get a rear view mirror in 3rd person to increase visibility?

[@sonic4197]

A very nice guide it helped a lot i still got one issue i cant resolve. In the dash studio>Overlays section are no saved overlay loayouts and i dont know what im doing wrong if someone could help me. I followed every step and also got the paid version.

[@vincentruben4365]

I had the same problem after choosing “extract to” from context menu (the horizonplus zipfile). The ‘content’ files & folders are then in the horizonplus folder within the simhub folder. Move those content folders & files a folderlevel up in the root simhubfolder. This worked for me.

[@ironsled]

This program is okay. I like GrumpyTunez better for dashboard and tuning. Plus, it supports PC and Xbox play. Available on Steam.

[@ableaquariums5480]

Looks interesting. Can I change the mini map location? Can this be used on the Xbox Game Pass version on PC?

[@HokiHoshi]

It should work just fine with the game pass copy as long as it's being played on PC, the mini map unfortunately can't be moved :(

[@kspectre21]

Now I don't even need to map a Telemetry button to see how bad I'm driving 🙃

[@sherifashraf1139]

Great Video, I am a little curious about how much RAM does simHub take?

[@Sappytron]

Good question - You should expect around 150-200MB of RAM usage at peak / worst use case, dependent on what's going on and how many elements you have loaded.

[@Insignia-pp1eh]

hey I payed 8 eur but it says load my license file. where do I get it? How do i find it

[@HokiHoshi]

It's sent to your email

[@Insignia-pp1eh]

@@HokiHoshi oh thx very much Hoki, love ur content

[@BudderTak0]

none of the overlays are showing up for me. sad. Update. Got it to work but simhub does not recognize I am playing so they don't appear.

[@michaelcherniak5565]

Same issue 1440p 3070ti 5600 windows 11

[@michaelcherniak5565]

fully wiping simhub off my pc and updating windows fixed the issue for me

[@autorennengaming]

How can I do this on Xbox series S?

[@LawfulLinekeeper]

Hi, is there a dashboard version for this?

[@CrazyChiefXxX]

anyone create a layout for 21:9 displays?

[@sherpaa1868]

why the frick do the horizon plus things not show up in simhub except for saved overlay layouts 😠 🙄

[@primotripleta7649]

same for me doesn't work

[@esp76orz]

Can I get maskind data (like a "VERTICAL G meter", "road/offroad μ-data", "AI car boosting checker", and so on)?

[@Cp0740]

any idea why the preset overlays arent showing up for me thought they are downloaded in the folder?

[@kieranj7]

idk why but having the overlays on tanks my games fps. and ive paid for the 60fps overlays... still definitely not 60fps tho. running Ryzen 7 5700G, 16GB ram, RTX 3060. i should have no issues with this game in terms of frames. but i guess its still terribly optimised

[@CortyCze]

Actually, Windows 10 and 11 can open .zip files natively without the need for 7zip or WinRAR.

[@Sappytron]

True, though not everyone knows that and WinRAR gives you a lot more utilities / options - Just useful / good practice

[@goose_27]

I notice the radio isnt any icon of the main stations is this some kind of custom music you can get in game?

[@HokiHoshi]

Its just the streamer safe radio station, so I won't get DMCA strikes!

[@soulofstones]

i have persistant oddometer installed and the car names are in forza 8 real true names, but in forza horizon 5 it shows no manufacture and model name only car_12345. what can i do to fix it?

[@bsmracing6592]

For Circuit, Simhub can generate track maps, for sprints somehow it doesn't work.

[@notpierce8660]

mine didnt automatically popup and i had to add it my self and it isnt seemless how do i fix this

[@SoanosBarcoded]

It is a good overlay, but I noticed it doesn't take display fonr scaling (I have to go 125% font size in Windows) which makes the overlay texts go outside the boxes in places.

[@davidmoore1253]

Anyone know how to make the steering indicator in the tach show where the wheels are actually pointing instead of what I'm inputting? Like in the in-game general telemetry page?

[@Tha-mountain]

*cries in xbox*

[@liltelman402]

Any tips on lining up the digital tach? Cant seem to get it just right

[@Sappytron]

A good rule of thumb is lining up the circle with the gear indicator to just wrap around it - the steering ring has a shadow you can use.

[@mitchelladams8884]

@@Sappytron how do you change its postion? whenever i try too to move it it makes forza go into the menus so i can align it with the tachometer and it doesnt the fit the ui

[@jasonwayne2344]

its not connecting I have done things twice with great care.

[@Sean-yk3yk]

Did everything accordingly yet it did not work. Please help

[@Hoemming]

I don't have the telemetry in full FPS but I did pay for that version, does anyone have the same issue?

[@Sappytron]

Have you checked in the bottom bar when you open the software and it says “Licensed”? Sometimes is an issue where you’ve paid for it but don’t have it fully linked.

[@Hoemming]

It said that it is Licensed but it didn't work, I tweaked with the Settings a bit and now it works on full FPS, I don't know if it was for the changes I made but at least it is working now 😁

[@Danhasdirt326]

@@Hoemming what did you change, im also having the same issue and i want to test out what you did and see if it did fix the issue

[@Hoemming]

@@Danhasdirt326 sorry i don't know what i changed and if it has anything to do with that it is working now, i could send you screenshots of my settings if that would help?

[@BlueJay755]

my tacho isnt showing my speed, anyone know a fix?

[@1_badass_z28]

is there any way to fix the small input lag

[@tristanhellenbrand2837]

Does this work on the game pass version on PC?

[@kamilgaming5083]

can i use this in online mode?

[@MLZDesigns]

Will this work for FM7

[@gqtr2141]

Does this work for pc game pass?

[@SHYNXCOOL]

So do i need the Steam or the Microsoft Store version

[@HokiHoshi]

Either one works just fine!

[@SHYNXCOOL]

@@HokiHoshi thanks for the answer

[@zorb7171]

Can anyone that has fh5 from game pass help me on how to see fh5 on simhub? I tried what was said in the FAQ but i still dont see fh5 on simhub

[@vvs6433]

Hi Hoki, don't you consider making videos also about GT7? Forza Horizon is getting more and more arcady and I am sure a lot of people that apreciate the type of videos you are making (tuning guides, car reviews, livery showcases) and your somehow calm and not exagerated style are also playing Gran Turismo. The GT7 is first game of the franchise I tried, I fell in love with it and now I cant go back to Forza. Iam sure it would be apreciated by many if you cover both of those titles.

[@jwgamingsquad2751]

Does this work on console?

[@Fettplayerable]

I noticed that for turning right the curve is shorter than for turning left For me, that doesn't make sense May someone explain it to me?

[@Sappytron]

You may be thinking of the preview image shown in the editor - when in live gameplay the gauges are equal length.

[@fnke_-aiir3401]

how can we get the license ?

[@PizzaVonPepperoni]

so i installed this yesterday worked fine, now it won't even work 100%

[@drewhelman6762]

How do u go for xbox

[@DGimbickis]

For some reason the input doesnt work. Anybody had the same problem?

[@FreDDPhoniC]

Hey thanks for the guide! Sayy, is it possible to change opacity/size of notifications somehow? In the Eliminator the Head2Head/Go/Final Race Go take up so much of the screen that the first 3 or so seconds you're driving blind.

[@MikoOhneHose]

One issue to consider: the overlay still shows when I'm in my garage, even though the tickbox "Hide when not in race" is ticked.

[@Sappytron]

The “Hide when not in race” checkbox checks for when your car is instanced and in a controllable state. Since you can technically control the car in the garage, the game flags as such and the overlay appears. I am working on a workaround for this, but couldn’t reliably get a fix working in time for 1.0.

[@HokiHoshi]

@Miko you can bind a key on your keyboard to hide and show the overlay whenever you want, check the pinned comment!

[@MikoOhneHose]

@@HokiHoshi So I need to manually hide the overlay every time I visit my garage?

[@MikoOhneHose]

@@Sappytron Alright mate, thanks for the info. Sorry for the harsh words, I'll edit my comment. Was a bit frustrated, but understand this is a community-made project so I'll wait for the fix. Not regretting anything, hopefully the money compensates a bit for the time you spend working on this. Stay safe, take care.

[@Sappytron]

@@MikoOhneHose You’re all good mate - I don’t actually get any kickback as the 60FPS upgrade is for the platform, the overlay itself is free forever but I intend to keep working on it into the future.

[@Stray_Doggo]

If only this could work on console now.

[@dodgeyo1507]

Is there a version for xbox?

[@kspectre21]

Sadly not, no way to get this functional on console at the moment

[@JN536]

For PC only?

[@kspectre21]

Yes

[@martonperge4590]

Dosent work

[@lovalec9321]

@martonperge4590 @ollie8998 I might know what's your problem you need help ?

[@andrecruz8461]

WILL IT WORK!!! I WANT IT

[@vinnytrevis]

I with I have this Mod for FH5 on xbox Series :(

[@Eric.31107]

everything is frozen :/ edit: only chages when i go into menu and then backout (yeah its the free ver if you wonder) edit 2: ok fixed it PEOPLE DO NOT PLAY WITH UNLOCKED FRAMERATE

[@hoodlum5607]

Is it possible to do this install on console? I know you can mod skyrim and fallout on console but i doubt i can with forza

[@kspectre21]

No unfortunately not. Skyrim and Fallout are only Moddable because Bethesda enabled it themselves. For this Overlay it's completely a community project with no help from the devs.

[@Chosen-_-]

Idk how to put a damn gauge on this thing

[@NathanElcoate]

I just wish I could get online lobbies to work. :/

[@musicalsloth9705]

Too bad I can’t download it on Xbox :(

[@jeremyhetzel2279]

Is is there a console version?

[@kspectre21]

No sadly not

[@tiagosilva.b5]

I want to create a new dial gauge I hate both digital and analog ones in game.... they'r ugly AF is it possible?

[@Sappytron]

Definitely but takes a lot more time - I recommend Scarshe’s NFSU2 Gauge Swap if you want a reference. Dude worked on that tirelessly to get that working.

[@haygindahaus]

Thanks It doesnt working

[@dansullivan8]

Pay to unlock fps? K

[@HokiHoshi]

Pay to support the amazing developers that create these tools for us!

[@hayleywilkinson7971]

*cries in Xbox*

[@Insignia-pp1eh]

U GOTTA PAY FOR THIS WTH MAN

[@Sappytron]

Only if you want higher framerates - The overlay itself is completely free and you can use the platform at 10FPS, but the $4-ish goes to the platform's single developer, Wotever, who's been working on SimHub for years completely solo.

[@Insignia-pp1eh]

@@Sappytron oh ok nvm

[@crimsonv4670]

limited fps hud? big yikes. couldve made it at least 30 fps to make it somewhat readable but this is just stupid

[@HokiHoshi]

If you pay ~5 dollars and support the people that worked hard to create this cool content, you can get it at 60 FPS.

[@DrivingGod21]

This is pretty much just allowing PC players an unfair advantage compared to console players. Really not a fan of this at all, and I do not think it should be allowed.

[@Sappytron]

I can see that point of view, however the information provided is available on all versions of the game - The graphics / information outputs can just as well be put on a phone / tablet screen for Xbox players to use (something I'm hopefully working on next when my job calms down). It did also get the full okay from PGG to use, so they don't see any unfair / unintended use in their eyes.

[@VerticalStrafes]

The higher frame rates and ultra wide monitors are much better advantages

[@Godmode_ON24]

Is there anyway to use racingdsx together with this?