Hornby BLACK 5 with STEAM ONE WEEK LATER! | ml60b

[@MariaMartíneztriiviño]

Lamp is off centre depicting loco towards end of steam , done to protect crew from overhead catenary

[@modeloco]

Concise and simply put. Fantastic 👍

[@kenh3344]

Some engines did have of center and be low the top of the smoke box door . To the left . Or Right if looking towards the engine . Mmm

[@modeloco]

@@kenh3344 Thank You 👍

[@michaelclaydon1200]

Thanks for the review, to give me the confidence to take the plunge. And buy this great model. Cheers Mike

[@modeloco]

@@michaelclaydon1200 Thanks Mike. Loving it 👍

[@JohnArmitage-d5t]

Thanks Andy. Enjoyed the update. Keep up the good work happy new year John Armitage

[@modeloco]

Thank You John, you and others inspired it👍

[@michaelclaydon1200]

I told you mine had come on the last video. I had no plans to ever have steam locos, on my layout. Never mind a Hornby ! This black 5 is the ultimate. Its an amazing model. Looks brilliant, runs brilliant (straight out of the box, not even run in properly yet) Sounds awesome too. Haven't had time yet to get it steaming, will have a go tomorrow. Well done Hornby. I've been amazed by it. Thanks Mike

[@modeloco]

Got me wanting smoke generators on every model now 😂

[@wamgoc]

Thanks for the update Andy! Most appreciated!

[@modeloco]

@@wamgoc Did think of you tbh 👍 Hope all okay 👌

[@adrianarnold8554]

Having a quick look on Wiki, the water top feed casing was set forward on various Black 5s and, yes, this particular loco was one of them

[@modeloco]

Thanks Adrian, these sorts of answers, help keep things on track. Spot on👍

[@michaelclaydon1200]

Thanks for doing the review, giving me the confidence to take the plunge.

[@modeloco]

@@michaelclaydon1200 👍

[@delphjunction1168]

Hi Andy. Love seeing you explaining your dcc. I'm dc only my one brain can't cope I'm afraid. ☹ Just love the look of all the steamers with or without smoke. Thanks for the update Andy. Thumbs up thumped 👍 ....Pete....

[@modeloco]

@@delphjunction1168 Hi Pete, Thank you for saying so and the leap from DC to DCC isn’t as big as you may think. Am intrigued what holds you back and what is it that you can’t get your head around? Highest Regards, Andy PS my brain constantly gets challenged especially when the leprechauns are bending reality lol 😂

[@delphjunction1168]

@modeloco Hi again Andy. It's just I'm a bit of a technophobe. I'm the sort of person that has to be shown. Just love the hands on modelling side of our great hobby. Might have a go sometime, layout all wired up for dc, so bit strip out if I do, Thanks for your concern Andy, love seeing what you do with dcc. ....Pete....

[@modeloco]

@ I’m sure you have skills and abilities that I’d marvel at. It’s why when we come together that things can really become very special indeed if done out of love for love and I do love this hobby. My deal is to help others the best I can and stay true to that. 🌟💫

[@racingpete]

I believe all the Caprotti fitted Black Fives had the top feed in the middle of the loco boiler, you can see this on 44726, which is in preservation, so with this new model being the Caprotti version is correct.

[@modeloco]

Great and thanks did get asked and wasn’t sure 👍

[@ollychap1985]

With the steam bridging the chimney Hornby told me to use a tiny amount of petroleum jelly on the inside of the chimney of my flying Scotsman It certainly helps with the steam. I do it about every four fills of the tank The top feeds on some of the black fives were in different places on the boiler depending on what workshop made them so Hornby has modelled this I've really enjoyed your videos on the Steam models

[@modeloco]

@@ollychap1985 Thank You very much 🙏. Like that petroleum tip too and all the other information as well 👍👍👍

[@stephenbromley2302]

You can reverse the directions in cv 29 on the app which is ok if you just use the app but obviously it will also alter it if you use a standard Dcc controller

[@modeloco]

Yes, for me it’s a must do tomorrow 😂especially when running a few in both directions 👍

[@Rturn2609]

She is so beautiful, so considering it, and the Hush Hush But I would absolutely love a Black 5 in TT! So hope they (Hornby) let us know of a TT event soon

[@modeloco]

Hush Hush. Don’t tempt me lol 😂. Can’t wait to hear what’s in store for this year. Hornby have made my years end for 4 years on the trot now and my attention has swung into OO lately but, still lots to get on with on that side, which I do like rather than rushing to completion. Regards, Andy

[@littlemaster22]

Nice to hear the Casey Jones theme. I've always associated that as the main theme tune for this channel.

[@modeloco]

Thank You! Got a few negatives saying it was too long but, I’ll add it more now 👍

[@hoxfox-l6l]

the top feed on the top witch you where saying was changed (i think that's what you where talking about) is likely that way because of the tooling diffraces and because on the real ones there are ones with it in this spot but other wize this is a cool model and video its really cool that hornby can do this now

[@modeloco]

Thanks for that and yeah all the different variations is very good to see when compared 👍

[@Rturn2609]

She is absolutely beautiful I am so so tempted, with the Black 5 and the Hush Hush But I really do hope they, Hornby, have a TT event soon and have a Black 5 coming THIS YEAR! But nothing stated for any TT announcements as yet

[@modeloco]

I’m feeling that with so much excitement in OO lately, that, TT has lost its grip a little and with Simon Kohler leaving so unexpectedly made other manufacturers nervous about its momentum. It may depend on how sales go for the latest batch of locomotives?

[@Rturn2609]

@ Hornby need to kick up a gear with TT for sure. Others are holding back to not put money in something that won’t be supported by others But once more take a jump I think it could be a fantastic range Just so slow at the moment, or delays with things That will hurt the brand for sure. With nothing being scheduled for an announcement from Hornby at the moment that’s another spanner in the system to hurt things On our side, Hornby have put a lot of funds in to this, not sure they could even think of cutting losses on that just now At least they will bring out all that’s been stated so far before killing it off But I think we have another year before they start thinking that But again, they need to kick things up, personally they should reach out to another company for TT to really kick up a bit. Share some work and the load, yet they won’t as they want to hold that brand to them. That could be a big downside and cause the it all to crumble. I fully understand and appreciate the time designing testing prep samples etc happen That’s another downside to all being made in China. We shall see However, the range of new (very delayed) 00 items and new ones being announced soon 🤞could interesting and a good boost for Hornby and others alike

[@modeloco]

@ I can totally agree with that too. Sands can soon shift. I felt on the OO side that Hornby seemed to be getting cajoled by certain others and connected on line influencers into letting slip their innovative plans in favour of Railroad and the so called Junior Railroad Plus, hence my BEWARE video some time back. All as Simon K was leaving which all seemed so well timed as Bob Dylan would say. It can certainly feel to me that there are different departments competing for budgets and that they don’t always connect as they should. That the budget items were in danger of grabbing all the swag and simply handing all the loot to the eager eyed external, tired of waiting competitors and, that the lack of harmony and unity within due to this, possibly, leading to decoders not fitting into locomotives as originally planned, website information getting typo errors and all combined, which then hits sales and thus drives the argument more, for simply going back to basics. TT I feel got into all that as well. I think TT is still a great stepping stone into the hobby. It remains to be seen if the latest OO greats we are seeing were too advanced to stop or if HQ has now realised where the bread is buttered and have now swung the ship back toward real modelling and away from the simplistic black an white approach and notion that thirty somethings want a cheap modern era boxed set way in and an oval of track will really inspire gadget hooked kids. Yes, it has its place, you could argue but, we all know what really sells by the number of unsold items or new start ups in the last ten years. There’s obviously a real hunger out there. A wake up, woke up, shake up was possibly needed? Have the tides turned or will fear yell loudest on the spreadsheets for more Play-trains? All speculation and written out of a love for the brand and this amazing hobby that has grown over the years and long may it continue 👍 We shall see 🙏

[@Alexander_Sth]

Hi Andy, found nice channel where our locomotive made nicely for video. Please look at the camera position, also how high it is and distance. Easy work but very good for eyes. New! Hornby Locomotion No.1 era11. Poor Start ended on high. Dcc fitting cured this terrible runner.

[@modeloco]

@@Alexander_Sth Hello Alex, glad you’re feeling happier with what you found 👍

[@Alexander_Sth]

@modeloco I would be very happy if you would get an idea how easy you can do amazing videos indeed and I people would see it on their screens.😶‍🌫

[@modeloco]

@ As we discussed earlier, looking forward to seeing how all this is achieved, equipment used, settings, positions and the results side by side, applied and uploaded on your Channel. Let me know when you release these step by steps because you’ve a lot to offer it would seem. All good 👍

[@Alexander_Sth]

​@modeloco You would like to see my camera positions for modeltrains? With 4k 60fps KZbin mark? Really? And after you would do the same? How nice. Ok, special for you I upload something, please look at this. Pay attention to the YpuTube "4k 60fps" mark. Camera position. Test 1 Camera position. Test 2 (this how we expected to see tiny locomotives) Camera position. Test 3 Camera position. Test 4 (3, 4 the same position which used those german guy) Testing camera position. HAG 168 DC Equipment: - shelf from bathroom furniture (white), vynil (grey) - secondhand smartphone 11 Pro - home chandelier with 5 E27 warm lamps (1600 lm each) - E27 at the left and one at the right, one of them with cool light - Rehau water tube 3/8 for smartphone (I do not want to spend money even for tripod) Anything else?

[@Alexander_Sth]

@modeloco You would like to see my camera positions for modeltrains? With 4k 60fps KZbin mark? Really? And after you would do the same? How nice. Ok, special for you I upload something, please open and look at this. Pay attention to the KZbin "4k 60fps" mark. Camera position. Test 1 Camera position. Test 2 (this how we expected to see tiny locomotives) Camera position. Test 3 Camera position. Test 4 (3, 4 the same position which used those german guy) Testing camera position. HAG 168 DC Equipment: - shelf from bathroom furniture (white), vynil (grey) - secondhand smartphone 11 Pro - home chandelier with 5 E27 warm lamps (1600 lm each) - E27 at the left and one at the right, one of them with cool light - Rehau Rau titan Stabil water PEX tube 3/8 for smartphone (I do not want to spend money for tripod) Anything else?

[@damianinCanadaTT-OO]

Like the direction explanation for the app. It always confuses me

[@modeloco]

Thanks and yes. As soon as I put it on screen thought, no wonder I get confused. Good news is it is possible to alter this but, thought then, no wonder I like the more obvious up and down fader of WiThrottle, rather than side to side👍

[@LiveSteamNick]

You little beauty, yes you, Andy!!!LOL😂

[@modeloco]

@@LiveSteamNick HAHa. Top man 👍

[@LiveSteamNick]

@modeloco mine arrives tomorrow!!! Yay!!

[@modeloco]

@ Hope it goes magically for you Nick 🙏

[@ItsTrainFun]

The light on the front of the loco is not supposed to be there off center, it should be above the handrail on the smokebox door. This holds me back to buy the loco 😢

[@MrLoewietje]

Since the other new Black 5’s have it center above the handrail, there must be a reason that Hornby put it there.

[@modeloco]

@@MrLoewietje the filler for steam generator

[@modeloco]

@ItsTrainFun You can remove?

[@ItsTrainFun]

@modeloco but then the light holder is in the wrong place, the real Black Five with this number has it in the middle above the handrail

[@modeloco]

It’s because of the fill input id say that this position, that I do think is linked to the end of steam, as now highlighted on the pinned comment is why this position was chosen.

[@Alexander_Sth]

Hi, it's me again. So... - 1 you still didn't made 4k 60FPS, and didn't received KZbin 60FPS status as well, not sure why you waiting... Moving objects are smashed, I can only rewind video instead watching you.. - 2 again you pushed camera over your head while working with lok, that is terrible to see +3 the distance to this big lok are nice, but you could add some very close video parts to it while it's moving, like collegues from Germany or Austria usually do - just a tip, buy something to put on those green scratched wood, it would be much more presentable Very strange feelings. From the one side you done a lot of work like profi for the video, but from the other side you seems you just do not want to make finished product. So I can not understand what place you like to find. Relaxing on the home chair with a cup of wine while making video with no requests of your visitors. Or to make really good home product which meets modern requests.

[@modeloco]

@@Alexander_Sth I have gone to 25 fps to suit UK as mentioned in the comments. I think the mix up here is a simple misunderstanding. I’m a modeler having fun, ex-engineer, entertainer and musician so I have studied audio production at great length yet, even that always seems consumer grade rather than studio quality but, computer quality does get better slowly. I’m not that deep into cameras, lenses, settings and post. I want to capture things as they happen. I definitely don’t drink wine, that just came out if you’re referring to my video end, it gives my stomach cramps or loads of beer. Maybe one on a new year nowadays. I dont think to hell with it either but, can only juggle so many plates at once and I’m not falling victim here. I do want it to be better but, my revenue and outgoing cannot stretch to Adobe premier monthly fees, they’re extortionate for my projects, then the additional time on top. I use iMovie but, have tried Final Cut Pro though it has more settings to configure and watch. 60 fps takes up far more hard drive space. I can also see why many influencers though appearing to be one guy and a smart phone are in reality also using very good shoulder based cameras too and have a team or usually a parent or someone close doing the editing, script and post production, even sponsors tailoring scripts. You probably and rightly so, pick on my weakest link here and as a post production type may find it baffling or that I’m simply lazy but, that’s far from the truth. I’ve invested heavily in equipment but, compared to a Post production facility it’s minuscule no doubt. PS 1. When you say green scratched wood, do you mean my modelers cutting mat? 2. What do mean by Profi? 3. Lok, Big Lok, no idea what you mean I turn the camera on and work. 4. I place the camera best where it won’t obstruct me as a wobbling, knocked camera is worse. I’ve experimented with a stand next to me and do now cut to these as and when I can but, I’m in a confined space in fact I do call it my Mac cave All good, Andy 👍

[@Alexander_Sth]

​@modeloco well, I'm steel very curious who you want to be here with your projects, because you done everything opposit to usual advices in this theme and stiil try to defend it instead of simple try it. Seems you spray your money and time to things which have no effect at all. I see you try to do some things very professional, some of them too much. - those idea of 25fps was a nice joke for me from your support team, no any special UK standards, electricity issues and so on. It was the idea in 80s with PAL/NTSC as well. But now you've got PC, smartphones and independing monitors. The only important thing is to get 60 or at least 50 fps KZbin status. That is the only standard you need to meet. - who you are with a video can tell cup of wine, because some guys like Schulz like to seat in front of camera with a layout background and a glass of beer and for a hour discuss situation with locs, model shops and so on. I have no question for their video quality, because the aim is different with yours - well, you still tell me about money. Have you seen Matt Damon adventure on Mars? He make things from what he got. Just do the same and you do not need to invest. You have to find the way to deal with Premier or what so ever until you receive status 60FPS from KZbin, no matter how. I've using old 4k smartphone with water flex tubes. They cost nothing. Just bend them to right point and everybody would be happy. But you still didn't even seen those guy who I gave to you to see how he found right place from his shoulder. - do not have place on SDD? Me to. Delete videos after uploading, do not make long videos, people would rewind it anyway. For me 5 minutes of pure quality and most important info is much more useful than 3 hour of photoshoot and 24.99 smashing FPS. - do you have a dreams? If so why not watching best video ideas in modeltrains from other collegues? Also some Fleischmann, Z21 or Roco official channels, some very great guys with home projects. Look how they take a video. - word "capture" means to catch something. Well you do not do it with 24.99FPS. It is impossible at all no matter what equipment you've got. Answers 1 I mean green veneer of your layout. It looks ok for 50s and awful 75 years later. Need to find some photo background to lay it down on the veneers. Or you need to finish terrain. Or it is better to use some fresh modern material, like new light grey or white table (can be found used), or gloss one color furniture (for example for kitchen) part like people make for presentation. Or use one color carpet like our british young collegue. 2 Profi means you try to catch as more new, modern and fashion video things for mixing your video, which is obvious even too much for TV or young guys and girls 3 I told you few times that for video should be found right proportion between object and canvas size. That means you can not capture bacterias with the same distanse as locomotive in 1/87. The same is for locomotives with different size. 4 take advices above, find the way to do it instead fighting against Have a nice day, Alex

[@modeloco]

@@Alexander_Sth Alex, All my three layouts are work in progress and these videos follow that. You have a lot to offer it would seem so I’ll watch a tutorial that you do and narrate in person to camera applying all the techniques you love and on the how to’s of all these subjects that I can’t quite grasp within your written answers for sure, that would be good but, as for using unhelpful negativity like terrible, etc and things like clinical grey veneers, carpets, modern settings and less green rural nature, it’s not my scene. Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it… too but, that’s an old saying. Bug hugs, Andy