HORSE SHOPPING RED FLAGS 🚩 (watch before buying)

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Carmella Abel - Equine Helper

Carmella Abel - Equine Helper

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@jenniferadam2258
@jenniferadam2258 11 ай бұрын
I knew a trainer who used to say "green and green equals black and blue" about beginner riders and young horses. 😅
@cindywines2126
@cindywines2126 9 ай бұрын
I got two horses from a Texas kill pen and had them shipped up to Idaho. Buddy was a retired ranch horse with bad knees and no teeth. He was such a sweet gentleman and I had him for three years and pampered him every day. He was 25 not 15. I learned to ride on him. Princess was a little more green. I have a horse train one each week and she is a good girl now, she is 18, very sensitive and my beautiful girl. I just put Buddy down on January 8th. He got so lame, his arthritis was very bad but I gave him a great life!
@ES-vv9bd
@ES-vv9bd Жыл бұрын
Great advice! I’ve had horses all through my life. Recently I was looking for a new horse, I arrived to look at one and the owner offered for me to ride her. I hadn’t seen anyone ride her yet so I said “I’ll get on after I see you ride her”. The owner tacked her up and as soon as he sat on her she flipped over and fell on him. Glad it wasn’t me that happened to.
@ashtonsawesomeaussieanimal2133
@ashtonsawesomeaussieanimal2133 11 ай бұрын
Wow
@jimmyyounger618
@jimmyyounger618 11 ай бұрын
Holy yikes! A horse that flips over is a horse that never gets a benefit of a doubt with me. For me, it's more than a future training issue or anything I'd be able to overlook despite differing opinions. (There will always be different opinions, but those opinions don't matter when it comes to my safety.) Pro reining and cutting trainer Larry Trocha has talked about horses that flip over, and I agree. Bucking, bolting, anything horses do is one thing, but a horse that goes over backwards may be lacking the basic feature of self preservation. A horse without the instinct to stay on his feet through any sort of protest simply isn't worth the extra risk. Smart to have that seller mount up first!
@daniellecote7393
@daniellecote7393 11 ай бұрын
the seller is probably trying to hide something if: the horse is already tied up waiting for you, the horse is already tacked up, the horse is saddled and sweaty, the horse is suspiciously calm or lethargic, they don't want you to ride the horse
@kearnsey64
@kearnsey64 9 ай бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned the vet visit before you buy. Very important!
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 8 ай бұрын
When I was looking for a dressage horse, one of the things that irritated me most was videos that did not show the horse moving in all three gait from the front, side and behind.Videos that showed the horse doing the same movement over and over but few other movements were a red flag, especially horses supposedly at second level or higher.
@GypsyGirl23
@GypsyGirl23 Жыл бұрын
I'm the classic example of what not to do. I bought my yearling filly with no knowledge and based on falling in love instantly with her. I met her the once in a shitty uneven paddock with rocks, holes etc and because I was a bit too full on with cuddles etc and she moved away and kinda stumbled in the process of moving out of my reach which I just thought it was because she didn't know me. Then everytime I wanted to come visit she was always busy, I saw her one more time with about 5 pregnant mares around her so already moving. She delivered her to our new property and within hours I contacted the breeder back telling her that her back leg keeps locking up and she stumbles. Breeder states no knowledge of it ever before and something must have happened here. I now know it's locking stifle and was planning on rescuing horses anyway but it's annoying that she wasn't honest and still charged 6.5k for her. I love her to bits so I'm never giving her back but honesty would have been nice.
@coffeeandhorses7991
@coffeeandhorses7991 11 ай бұрын
Yup, never base it on falling in love!😂. That is just as bad as basing it on colour. Daybyday has a bad habit of both of these things.
@badlander2000
@badlander2000 11 ай бұрын
I always find it so funny because I'm always a big proponent of taking precautions like this, getting a PPE, etc, but that last horse I bought was nothing like this. I got her from a friend of a friend. I get there and she's rearing in the stall. Guy says he bucked her off, doesn't think she's broke (tbf I was looking for a project and I'm so happy with his honesty and the fact that she obviously wasn't drugged.) He says, "I'll drop her off tomorrow if you want a trial" then when I said I would buy her didn't even come for the money for two weeks and looked at me like I had two heads when I asked about a bill of sale. I did have to use his vet for the ppe, but it's also the only vet in the area, so for local horse sales this is standard. 10/10 would do again. Seller was just old school but a great guy. Horse has turned out to be everything I want and more. Also, last time I sold a horse, I couldn't believe the number of people who didn't want me to ride first, wanted him tacked up when they got there, etc. Like, he was a certified good boy and I was being honest, but how did THEY know that? He's now in an amazing home getting all the love.
@skibidicheerful
@skibidicheerful 2 ай бұрын
@@badlander2000 hey, how did that project pony 4 years ago work out
@merriberri845
@merriberri845 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, anyone new to horses or new to the buying process should just get experienced friends or their instructor to help them find something. I wouldn't want to tell the seller what I want as they usually find a way to make the horse they're selling be that animal. You should already have an idea what sort of animal you're dealing with from the sale ad IMO and everything after that is just figuring out if there are deal breakers. People with more experience will know the usual schemes and scams and may know of which sellers are honest if they have a reputation. The problem with green horses going to green owners isn't often always the sellers fault either but the fault of the owner who misjudged their capabilities. Something being sold as a project is an honest sell. But maybe the new owner isn't being honest with themselves about what they can handle.
@redneckgirl3326
@redneckgirl3326 5 ай бұрын
Great idea. My older siblings had horses and Dad had promised to buy me a horse as well. But, he died when I was 12 and Mom couldn't afford to do that on SS benefits. I had to buy my first horse myself after I was in college. I took my older sister with me as she was a lot more experienced with horses than I was. Not only that, she knew my riding skills and what would be the appropriate horse for me.
@MiloAndLisko
@MiloAndLisko Жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu. I am lookikng forward to buying a New horse. Literally thank you sooo much for the help and infortmation tat i need to know. THANK YOUUU
@Hotel_hus
@Hotel_hus Жыл бұрын
My first horse was a malnourished beginner horse and once she put on weight her beginner energy kicked in so every ride i was bucked off and she was scared of being the arena because i got really hurt and she started associating the arena with a bad place so she would never let me take her in the arena without snorting, running around like a manic and not letting me near her, probably because she was broken in for a year and was broken in while starved anyways i was told she was to much beginner for me 😂 someone told me that she was TO MUCH BEGINNER I didn't even know that was a thing lol Its ok though an amazing lady on the property helped me retrain smoke and help her calm down its been a year now and smoke is an amazing horse she can still be a little stubborn and hard to stop but she doesn't buck unless she is in pain and she doesn't bolt or anything i ride her on roads and trails because she still hate the arena and does buck in there but other then that she is amazing
@backyardfunwithsimone9213
@backyardfunwithsimone9213 11 ай бұрын
It's a jungle out there...when I was looking to buy my first horse the first horse I looked at was totally lame (the owner pointed out his mare's wonderful mane to me and my daughter, hoping I would not notice the limp), the next horse I looked at was supposed to be a great kids/ beginner horse but I found out from another boarder that the mare had bucked off her owner on a trail ride and that was the reason she was for sale...next time I am looking to buy a horse I would try a feed lease first to make sure it's a good match.
@jordanwhite5470
@jordanwhite5470 11 ай бұрын
If that's available it's a great idea! And I've found that the ride can become different when you and the horse are more familiar with each other.
@advena996
@advena996 11 ай бұрын
Yes! I like the horse out in the field when i get there too. Then you can watch the whole process. Also watching the seller ride gives one an idea of what the "buttons" are for when you ride.
@brigidnewton5939
@brigidnewton5939 9 ай бұрын
This is a great video! 😊 Definitely dont get on the horse if the owner / seller will not. Also, be very wary of a horse that's been turned out for some time. Sure, people can say "oh, I've run out of time/ got a different job / had a baby," etc. But sadly I have had experience of this and it quite often turns out the horse is unsound. If you can lease to buy, it gives you the opportunity to bring the horse back into work without being stuck with an unsaleable horse ( that you probably became fond of, in the meantime).
@Miguel195211
@Miguel195211 11 ай бұрын
Just like when buying a house, “a home with great potential.” Meaning, needs a lot of work and money to invest.
@redneckgirl3326
@redneckgirl3326 5 ай бұрын
I recently saw a building that looked like it was being torn down that had a for sale sign on it. There was no longer a back to the building.
@Warriorbob-im5py
@Warriorbob-im5py Жыл бұрын
Green on green equals black and blue.
@advena996
@advena996 11 ай бұрын
Yep! The "grow together" thing is kind of ridiculous.
@brandywineblogger1411
@brandywineblogger1411 6 ай бұрын
Love the "Green on green, black and blue." I had never heard that. Years ago when I was taking lessons (hunt seat), I decided to buy a horse, to be boarded at a large riding stable. He was a freakin' gorgeous 5'3 hands, bay Anglo Arab gelding with 4 white socks and a connecting star and stripe on his face. He was 4 years old 🥴 and had just shipped east from Stillwater, Oklahoma. I found later he was basically Western trained and totally one-sided. Luckily I had a good instructor. We spent the whole first months lunging him in both directions and getting him used to leg. I wasn't black and blue but the frustration level was higher than it should have been. However in our first local under saddle class, he came in 3rd. Anglo Arabs tend to be beautiful movers. But yes, my naivety.
@lorrygeewhizzbang9521
@lorrygeewhizzbang9521 9 ай бұрын
I just saw one that, to me, had scam written all over it. It was a BEAUTIFUL gypsy vanner for $1500, It was a stallion and apparently a 1 on the bombproof. 😏 that would be a dream if all that was true.
@slashton1723
@slashton1723 3 ай бұрын
I just found this channel and it’s honestly makes me a bit emotional. I’ve loved horses all my life and rode from being 8 to 13 but I stopped going as I found the bullying in the yard relentless and my confidence was completely ruined. Now at the age of 24 I’m looking to start riding again with the support of my boyfriend and his sister. You are so friendly and kind, and have no superiority complex or look down on newer/less confident riders. It gives me hope that I can get back in the saddle both literally and figuratively 🥺🩷 so thank you.
@tracyjohnson5023
@tracyjohnson5023 11 ай бұрын
Please consider reputable rescues when horse shopping! Good rescues will have already had a thorough vetting done, farrier visits and behavior assessment on ground and under saddle if horse is trained to ride at the time. A good rescue will be honest and upfront on everything known about the horse. The goal is a great forever home for every horse. Adoption fee will usually be much less than the horse would sell for in the open market, definitely a plus. There are a few caveats with adopting from a rescue: you cannot resell/give away/lease to someone else off property. You also have to notify and get approval to move the horse from location you gave. There is a contract both parties sign and our rescue will go to court to enforce ours if needed. Different rescues have varied requirements for horse housing. For ours, shelter can be a good stand of trees. For others, it's a barn or run in shed. Our rescue allows barbed wire fencing, but some do not. IMO, barbed wire is much safer than high tensile based on 50+ years with horses. Be prepared to provide vet and farrier references. For first time horse owners, we help with finding those, but we then require an instructor/experienced friend reference. I can say though, if somebody rides one of ours and is great, just not owned before, we work with you. If you cannot/don't want the horse anymore, the horse has to be returned to the rescue and you don't get your adoption fee back. I can say that many rescues do have 30 day return where you'd get some or all of adoption fee back or it can be applied on another horse. Another positive with rescues is that we're always open to volunteers, especially those with horse experience. That way you can get to know the horses in a no pressure situation. Rescues will also let you come see and ride the horse more than once. Many rescues also offer foster options, although that usually applies to horses that need some work before they're ready to be adopted. Although our small rescue will do a 30 day foster/trial for local adopters. After the 30 days, you either adopt the horse or return to rescue. There are many good quality horses at rescues, even some potentially world caliber horses, for much less than you'd pay privately. However, you won't find a made, sound 5 star eventer at a rescue or a made, sound 1D barrel horse. We do try to expose the horses to different things like trails, obstacles, jumps, ropes, shooting and we are game to try or let potential adopters try out things specific to their discipline. National Breed rescues are great if that's your thing. Thoroughbred and standardbred rescues are fantastic and they even X-ray every horse. You're getting a free, complete PPE! While the most important thing is a great forever home, rescues have to ask higher adoption fees for trained, sound horses in order to keep helping other horses. Horse care isn't cheap as we all know! Rescues can be 501c3 non-profits or they can be private. Do some research on individual rescues beforehand. Ask for contact info for other adopters and talk to a few. Ask who their vet is and contact them. When these people praise the rescue, go visit. Some of us don't have fancy facilities, but the horses will be well cared for. I know this was a long post, but rescues are very often overlooked by horse shoppers. ❤ PM me or post comments here and I'll be happy to help anyone with finding good rescues in your area.
@sarahhavle113
@sarahhavle113 10 ай бұрын
This is some really good info. I'm trying to get a horse in the next few months and was thinking of rescues. Could you help with finding a rescue in Georgia?
@tracyjohnson5023
@tracyjohnson5023 10 ай бұрын
@@sarahhavle113 absolutely
@grenade8572
@grenade8572 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommand a rescue as a first animal (no matter if dog, horse, cat, or whatever). Because those animals are often emotionnally hurt, so can give bad surprises do their new owners even if the shelter is pretty sure the animal is very easy to handle. Moreover, even an easy-to-handle one can be easy to handle only because he's very shy and unconfident; an experimented owner will notice that and help the rescue to rebuild the confidence. So, if I'd buy a horse someday, it wouldn't be in a shelter, because I'm not a confident rider. But I'm experimented with dogs and cats, so I rescue them as soon as I can, even chosing the one who are hard to handle (except if they can be a threat for my other animals), because I know those would have trouble to find a home. :)
@tracyjohnson5023
@tracyjohnson5023 8 ай бұрын
@@grenade8572 well a good, experienced horse rescue has put the horse through the wringer to find those holes, before even considering adoption. Good rescues will want an adopter to come out in person and have interactions with potential horses. We make sure it's the right fit for the horse first and adopter second. There are lots of mediocre to bad rescues out there as well as flippers calling themselves rescues. All they care about is the dollar. That's why I've said reputable rescues only. Those great rescues are a fantastic safety net for horses and adopters because if it doesn't work out for any reason, the horse has a safe place to return too.
@sarahhenderson-r9i
@sarahhenderson-r9i 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, this is SO very helpful! I wish I had this video when I first got into horses. It definitely would have saved me a lot of mistakes and heartache. Will definitely be keeping these things in mind when purchasing my next horse!
@equestrianwhotravels
@equestrianwhotravels Жыл бұрын
This was a great video for new horse owners or beginner riders. I would also add giving a deposit to hold the horse until you can get there to see it. I like that you bring up sound enough to do what you want it to do. Some horses can trail ride or do low level jumps after healing from an injury. 😊
@jordanwhite5470
@jordanwhite5470 11 ай бұрын
Too many scammers out there these days, so I wouldn't give a deposit unless I personally trusted the Seller. Just sayin'.
@equestrianwhotravels
@equestrianwhotravels 11 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite5470 that's what I'm saying, that's a huge red flag. I see so many new horse owners falling for that too. :(
@Janet-mw7pc
@Janet-mw7pc 3 ай бұрын
Yeah too many scums.. I spent 6 months on Facebook and it was not a good experience. I finally reached out to the barn owner where I was taking lessons and asked her to find me a horse. she is hauling a horse in for me for a 2 week trial period. I will pay to board for 2 weeks but okay with that. hopefully, this horse is the one! i'll meet him on Monday
@thebluestay02
@thebluestay02 7 күн бұрын
My trainer just told me about the last place she worked at, where the owner of the riding school purchased a horse advertised as 9 years old for lessons- and, after the dental check AFTER they bought the horse, it turns out she was 23! 😭😭 Just before my trainer left, the owner was reselling the mare as a 9 year old, because 'that's what I was advertised this mare was'??? People can be so fickle and strange. I hope that mare is ok now cause omg
@rebekah5429
@rebekah5429 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these Friday videos! I look forward to them every morning as I get ready for work!
@vsequine4989
@vsequine4989 11 ай бұрын
Great Video! Could you do a video on how to ask and preform flying changes? My brain can't process on a horse that doesn't have auto.
@laurakerley8774
@laurakerley8774 Жыл бұрын
Good tips! P.S. you look really pretty in this video.
@yourpersonalfrenchfryoffical
@yourpersonalfrenchfryoffical 11 ай бұрын
My dad said he might get me a horse in the coming months -yrs so this vid is gonan help so muchhh
@hopelesscase2869
@hopelesscase2869 Ай бұрын
A man drives down the road , sees a sign that said horse for sale $100. Man stops in , asks the farmer to see the horse , man gives farmer $100 and says he'll pick up the horse tomorrow morning. Man shows the next day , and the farmer said horse died last nite. Here's your money back. Man said keep it and help me load the horse. Few weeks later farmer sees man in town and asked , what did you do with that dead horse ?. Man said I raffled him off for 10 bux a ticket. Sold 100 tickets . Farmer ask did anyone complain . Man said the winner did , so I gave him his money back...
@KirasKingdom-kh5ov
@KirasKingdom-kh5ov 10 ай бұрын
I wish i had this 7 months ago 😭
@coffeeandhorses7991
@coffeeandhorses7991 11 ай бұрын
This would be a great video for daybyday to watch!.
@reb1050
@reb1050 4 ай бұрын
I have watched various videos on buying horses. Things like what to look for and what to avoid. However, none of them have mentioned a Coggins Test. In certain parts of the country Equine Infectious Anemia is a real problem. Some states require horses to be tested 2 times a year. There is nothing worse than buying a horse that ends up having to be quarantined or only capable of being sold for "killer".
@LyssaBug_14
@LyssaBug_14 Жыл бұрын
I am planning to get my horse next year I’ll be sure to pay attention ❤
@Janet-mw7pc
@Janet-mw7pc 3 ай бұрын
Hello gotten it yet? .. well I’m currently searching for the perfect horse for my granddaughter. I’ve seen a lot of ads on Facebook, but many seem sketchy. Does anyone know of any reputable sources where I can find one?
@rebeccaallard-m3m
@rebeccaallard-m3m 3 ай бұрын
@@Janet-mw7pc I spent 6 months on Facebook and it was not a good experience. I finally reached out to the barn owner where I was taking lessons and asked her to find me a horse. she is hauling a horse in for me for a 2 week trial period. I will pay to board for 2 weeks but okay with that. hopefully, this horse is the one! i'll meet him on Monday
@Janet-mw7pc
@Janet-mw7pc 3 ай бұрын
I’m currently searching for the perfect horse for my granddaughter. I’ve seen a lot of ads on Facebook, but many seem sketchy. Does anyone know of any reputable sources where I can find one?
@mariepigen08
@mariepigen08 11 ай бұрын
It's sad that this video even needs to exist. Why can't people just be honest about selling horses?
@cindywines2126
@cindywines2126 9 ай бұрын
It is a jungle out there especially at the auctions!
@cindywines2126
@cindywines2126 9 ай бұрын
How do you treat a condition like that?
@ljo0605
@ljo0605 10 ай бұрын
This is very helpful, thank u 😊
@BrookeSliker
@BrookeSliker 5 ай бұрын
I was getting a draft, and i asked for pics, and they said they don't do picture . They also said that buyers don't get their horses. Thats when i started seeing red flags
@LaurenBarker-k9w
@LaurenBarker-k9w 8 ай бұрын
Where was this a year ago 😂. Got my walkaloosa who was “6” was broodmare bought from auction. Didn’t know they only owned her a year till after purchase. They never named her…… Wasn’t worried about PPE because I was going to be using the same vet. Never had her teeth done with them she is also 16 not 6 She supposed to be broke, they had to many horses and were selling down their heard so they could ride more. I can tack her up just fine she will not move forward…… Thankfully one of my good friends is a trainer so her and the mini we got with her who is actually 6 will be going for to school for a bit. I’m gonna be super pick for our next horse lol I love her to pieces though
@eqq.julia00
@eqq.julia00 Жыл бұрын
First! Thank you! Im thinking on getting a new horse, and this was helpful! I wish I knew this before I got my boy, Dunkin! Pin? ❤
@Serenity.Equestrian
@Serenity.Equestrian 3 ай бұрын
Me looking for a project: 😮
@AlainaReed-xt8zf
@AlainaReed-xt8zf 6 ай бұрын
Should bad confirmation be a deal breaker I’m bringing home a 10 year old 16hand mare next Friday and she’s a bit toed in the owner said she passed her lame test and is gonna send over vet reports and x-rays am I making the right decision?
@AlainaReed-xt8zf
@AlainaReed-xt8zf 6 ай бұрын
She’s well broke and such a sweetheart
@daniellecote7393
@daniellecote7393 2 ай бұрын
bad leg conformation is a no for me because bad leg conformation=bad hooves and bad leg conformation+bad hooves=soundness issues
@TaylorParnell
@TaylorParnell Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ARE YOJ DOING VLOGMAS???? WHO ELSE IS SO EXCITED FOR VLOGMAS ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I JUST UPLOADED A VIDEO TOO GUNNA TRY TO POST EVERY DAY TILL CHRISTMAS ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@BrookeSliker
@BrookeSliker 5 ай бұрын
Also, where is a trustworthy place to get horses?
@jamesdack61
@jamesdack61 8 ай бұрын
2 week trail time so you get the money back if the horse dont work out
@Alhadadrawadalhadad
@Alhadadrawadalhadad 10 ай бұрын
🐎🐴🤠🥰😍😘♥️💝💞
@TheThreeScoots
@TheThreeScoots Жыл бұрын
Second! 😂
@PuppyPlayz2
@PuppyPlayz2 Ай бұрын
If only you made this video 6 years ago than I wouldn’t be stuck with a crazy ottb who hates people 🥲 especially as my first hrose
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