Hotfix or Hot-Mess? | Detailed Ship Weapon Destruction & Repair Testing | Star Citizen Science 4k

[@Kakeyoro]

Ironically, I was able to attach the Argo mole pods to the prospector and I ended up having to claim it after a server issue. When I claimed it, the new prospector had the stock pods

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thanks for sharing this as I did not test this on the mining ships.

[@99mserna]

Did you save the ship load out before claiming?

[@Dkcampo]

@@99mserna i think you cant configure pods on the loadout

[@gravdigr27]

Doesnt matter, you still have to change sometjing in the l9adout and save it to have the mole bags​ be on there when you claim the ship. @Dkcampo

[@Kakeyoro]

@gravdigr27 I did exactly that. I know the drill. Unfortunately, didn't make a difference.

[@crazy8chief]

Keep up the great work... you have our support!

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thanks! o7

[@DaKineGuy]

Anyone throwing shade at Foxy needs to relearn what alpha testing means. This is EXACTLY what you're supposed to do.

[@SJCOFFIClAL]

True

[@thesheep3077]

NO, what you're supposed to do is put the information in a IC report and mark it as an exploit so it is hidden from everyon else. NOT spread the word so everyone can use the exploit. You're having an ID-10T system error.

[@bronxgaming4381]

@@thesheep3077this is not really the case as there is nothing in the terms and service agreement about this. This is just your opinion not facts.

[@lassikinnunen]

Look, if things are broken its alpha. If you use a feature to sidestep the pledge store where you make pledges and aren't buying digital goods then actually its a live game and they ban you and keep your money. They should just have embraced it being a test and reset every 2 weeks or something and not be bitches about it, they "gamified the economy" but really they have conflicting goals and no idea whatsoever how the overall economy is supposed to work with the claims thrown in.

[@Renae-ca]

@@thesheep3077 See my earlier post. This video should not be hidden. The intended functionality of repairing your ship is broken. This is how I play. I don't dupe. Had I seen this video before last night I would have saved myself 1.5 hours and 1m aUEC. I hope MANY others see this before losing their average items and wasting time/money buying them from the shops. I've not seen anyone else reference ID-10T since the mid-90s. Ha, nice!

[@spacexy0]

Mate, you are an absolute legend. Every single time I have a question, you've done a video about it. The sheer volume of content is unbelievable. I greatly appreciate everything you publish. Keep up the good work! :)

[@trekie82]

This is such a step backwards from where they were going, such a shame.

[@masterskilhollow]

"Hot mess", is my answer.

[@stoneguard]

Thank you for taking all the time and reading effort. I melted my FPS gear in protest over these changes. I, like you, WANT there to be cost and consequence, but I don’t want permanent loads until we have warranties because of how often the loads is the fault of bugs not playing.

[@IceSki117]

Guess I won't be back till February at this pace

[@azca.]

Smart decision

[@BDA1137]

Same thing has been said by countless others 5 and more years ago. XD

[@cmcmillan22]

4.0.1 is going to ptu either tomorrow or Friday. Won’t be to long

[@mndeg]

why? were you actually repairing before?

[@IceSki117]

@mndeg Yes, because it is significantly faster to land and repair in between bounties.

[@snowmind]

"Believe me, I'm not that righteous..." made me laugh so much! Thanks for putting the new hotfix to the test!

[@muhlaka123]

Rofl even the "fix" is bugged. CIG omg *shame*

[@MadKurupt]

Christ roberts doesn't feel shame only hunger.

[@Leptospirosi]

"Bring me shame, get nothing! 🎶

[@Scrapyjape]

The Problem with the reclaim, is those weapons will not stay on the new ship when you reclaim it. I tried taking 2 guns off my ship then self-destructing and reclaiming the 2 guns did come back as you have shown. however, the 2 guns I took off would not go on to my ship in the terminal fitting tool(MobiGlas) they just errored in the console, you can manually fit them back to your ship, so it has 4 but when you reclaim it again those 2 original guns will be missing. Its like those weapons are now blacklisted

[@eigos]

We finally got a money-sink in this game and CIG removes it... Sounds legit.

[@MisterFoxton]

The money sink is still there, you just don't get anything for it. Enjoy scratching your paint and paying half a mil to repair it.

[@MartinOg395]

Sir you have my respect. So many hours testing. Thank you. So far you'r the only one i saw doing that and i appreciate it so much.

[@di-su]

I think they should give us an option to choose, when reclaiming ships - either you can reclaim stock lodout, or recent, but you have to pay for every non-stock component, and maybe wait a little more time. And yes it will be better to get recent components when repairing your ship

[@SebastiaanSwinkels]

Yeah, those non-destroyed ship claims are generally not because we're too lazy to go to where we left that ship. 9 out of 10 times it's because some bug prevents us from getting to the ship, be it a missing marker, a ship being "on pad", QT not working, hangars being unreachable, ATC non-responsive... But yeah, the players are lazy /smh

[@Tlusion22]

Yes! been doing it for years lol I'm not wasting 45 Mins to go back and get it lol

[@alexc9434]

100% of the time it’s a game breaking bug. At least in my experience.

[@Brethgar]

They need to add "Ship Transfer" to the options. If my ship is stored in New Babbage and I need it at Everus Harbor, I should be able to have it transferred to me instead of claiming insurance. Technically, it works the same currently, but they could differentiate between destroyed claims and simply ships being relocated.

[@mikecapson1845]

If u leave a ship somewhere, and die. Came back with different ship, that previous ship you abandoned is no longer yours in yes of game, You will get tresspassing warning, and doors wont listen to you. Its broken by design and it was like this for a long time.

[@stucclikechucc]

@@Brethgar why is there a in game GOV thats gonna come after you for insurance fraud

[@krsfreo]

There is a real small minded person in charge of balancing at CIG.

[@sanctred]

Players worried about their contested zone loot being exclusive wanted this hotfix. I blame them. E.g. SalrEMike.

[@jaybyrd3781]

A total dweeber you mean.

[@negative-7846]

@@sanctred if CIG wanted you to dupe items locked via gameplay rewards, they would have made that a feature Satlemike is not the SC development team jfc really dude?

[@bronxgaming4381]

Even if this is unintended, it makes sense as a system to overcome store purchased items. The reality is when you have a store front game something like this will make it into the game as CIG has never really shown any interest in rewarding game play over store front items.

[@stucclikechucc]

balancing you mean gatekeeping! you dont need to balance the game by making weapons harder to gt you balance the game by changing how they compare to each other so there is no clear cut BEST for everything. anyone worrying about duping ship weapons literally just wants to gate keep others from what they have or know they can easily get. simple and plain. they dont take away from game play the idea of the game is to earn money to get bigger and better ships, i dont see why they just dont allow every weapon to be bought who cares let people have fun not feel locked into what everyone says are the best let them have access to all of them just make the entry fee to get them cost a good chunk of aUEC make it to where you have to say go buy the blue print one time per character and until that blue print is purchased they cannot be equipped. that way things are not locked behind time sync or how many people you know or anything for that matter. games are for fun not to be jobs. maybe the super rare shit can be the slightest dps bump to make those who want to min max and feel like elitist and can still be happy kind of like the pyro attritions from the save stanton event not so much diff its gonna always win the fight but something cool for the people who chase skins or min max. gate keeping ruins pvp content.

[@cletusmcgillicutty7375]

Hot mess. Hold your wallet. To me it seems like there is a super simple fix. Insure whatever you want, guns, armor, gear in your ship. But when you claim it, the old one despawns. Then the dupe cry babies cant say anything and we get to keep using our gear. If another player picks it up, maybe just make the insurance claim cooldown longer, or cost more each time. I loved being able to actually use the gun racks in my ship. Considering 95%+ of the time I lose gear, it's due to bugs, they need something like that in the game. Thanks for all your testing and keeping it positive.

[@Bronwyn031]

My solution has always been that pledge items and subscriber items should not be lootable except by the owner of the items. Even if they are dropped on the ground. And all subscriber and pledge items just stay in the owner's main inventory at their home station. Meaning you can only have one iteration of an item out at any given time until it is no longer on your person due to death or discarding/dropping it. After you pull the next copy out of player inventory the older version becomes unlootable to even the owner until the server cleanup comes along and deletes it. This would stop player duping and players being targeted for their subscriber/pledge items. If the item is in-game then all bets are off, like boss gear or store-bought gear. I feel the same way about pledge ships never being able to have their ownership transferred.

[@dawid2992]

@@Bronwyn031 Easier to make them skins, this way a player has to have the base "plebeian" armor, that is lootable, but can apply the skin to make it look like one of the variations

your are not the douup king thats just angry bobs talking smack you are a hero of the federation!

[@JustJohnny555]

The bobs don’t even care. It’s the Karen’s. lol

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

At the end of the day we're all testing the game and the more duping glitches we find and they fix , the less we'll have when (ok if ) the game releases , I'd recommend doing every glitch and exploit you can as the more people are doing them more attention gets put on fixing them

[@zerentheunskilled]

Thanks for being so diligent with your science Foxy!

[@Renae-ca]

This happened to me last night. I had no idea until then. I lost one wing while doing a bounty so I went for a quick repair. I lost 300k, lost my upgrades, and got the stock load out. I was frustrated. It was only minor purchasable upgrades, not NDBs or other rare items.

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thanks for sharing this, so looks like just a normal upgrade weapon will be like this not only the looted rare weapons.

[@Renae-ca]

Also, I spent the next two hours dragging my ship around the verse and spending another 700k re-outfitting it. Ugh. Thanks for this! Now I know I could have solved it with a claim.

[@Renae-ca]

@@cpt_foxyloxy To be more precise, they were weapons from my other ships. I wanted to quickly set up my F7A Mk II with CF repeaters. So they were technically 'looted' from another ship. I had heard that items not bought would go away on a claim, but I did not hear it would happen on repair hence my surprise. This is why I flew around the verse to buy them, in the hope that they would survive repair and claim. Also, another point to note but perhaps not important now that you've posted it. I stripped my ship down and flew a cutter around to the buy spots. Claimed the F7A while I went to the shops, and outfitted the ship when it arrived. I lost none of the purchased items on claim, and now I know it's not necessarily because they were purchased. In short, you may want to test with purchased upgrades, if not already on your list.

[@LoneWolf8003]

So they let the jump beacons be broken, missions be broken, beds kill ships leaving aeroview XL hangars, but god forbid you buy a backup gun...

[@negative-7846]

you can buy backup guns in the station shops mate. . . lol wtf?

[@Skumbagbrad]

Hes talking about the looted ship upgrade guns... or looted fps upgrade guns...​@@negative-7846

[@LoneWolf8003]

@@negative-7846 what shop sells a P8-AR?

[@frognutz0o]

They should go ahead and keep implementing half ass features so that way they lose players and see how the community actually feels about it and not just 1 person and his followers. Great video again Foxy

[@myztklk3v]

I removed my attritions because I lost my stock galdereens a week or so ago to a bug, so I repaired the ship to get the galdereens and it worked, but then I went and did bounties and ended up having to bail from my ship and claimed it later and the galdereens I spent 820k on were gone.

[@Aklys]

Definitely a hotmess. I am definitely in agreement that their best option was to put cost multipliers on what they consider rare items as if the insurance/repair is costing extra. It fits the lore and the mechanics. If you force players to have to loot them as the only means of getting items you aren't creating an emergent gameplay. It seems these days they are dialing back more and more of the emergent gameplay. Keep up the great videos that challenge things, as there is so much potential being lost that we need more voices like yourself.

[@drivennale8551]

Just realized I'm not subscribed to you. Subscribed now. Enjoying your testing content. Fly safe. Keep testing.

[@joshua41175]

It is weird how we essentially have the Elite Dangerous community vs the EVE community when it comes to how hard-core Star Citizen should be. I do think that we need to meet somewhere in the middle and the devs need to speak on it.

[@Gremlin42]

I must have ran into this too in early hotfix roll out on 1/7. I found an abandoned (not even soft death) Titan in a bounty area with some NDB 30s and a nose Omni XII, so it had to be a player ship. The gate was open, so I decided to rp space scavenger. Boarded, unlocked ports and stripped them. I found they would not store to warehouse and were still on grid when bringing it back up. I took my own Titan out, removed guns then attached the loot to it to see what happened. I stored the ship and brought it back up and it had no guns on hardpoints. I wonder if this was a fluke or if it would have been different if I had soft deathed the ship before removing the guns, or blown it away after. The rest of my test was the same. I did a repair and got the stock loadout guns for 220k, then reclaimed it and got back my original 3x NDB30 loadout. Ya I know I did not need to do all this, as I already had the same guns, but its all for testing. I enjoy you doing 90% of the work , so I don't have to.

[@willbaker4544]

Great job testing this stuff out Foxy. Keep up the good work.

[@mikezr1000]

it's a hot mess, and people complaining about the duping remember it's an alpha. Why should people get banned?

[@MisterFoxton]

CIG should ban everyone who interact with bugs. Killed by elevator? Ban. Fell through planet? Ban. 60k error? Ban. Then the loyal store citizens who don't play the game will be the only ones left after 24 hours, just as CIG wants.

[@wisewasabi]

The repair with stock items is fair, just think that the manufacturers only have access to the same stock we have in stores, however any items duplicated from zones or special loot items or sub flair and real purchases should be bound to your account so you can’t flood the market with them and give to others

[@stucclikechucc]

thats dumb what if i want to trade you think i shouldnt be able to socialize and create a better community? what if say some rare part comes from part of gameplay i dont enjoy or am not good at but i found a part from a part of the game i am good at should i not be able to trade with someone? at the end of the day what does it matter? u gonna take away the whole salvage parts from ships cause youll never stop someone purposefully letting someone else blow them up or steal parts and then claiming the ship unless you make it to where every single time you get a new ship you have to re aquire all those parts which who would do that? whats the idea here gatekeeping?

[@Gnarfendorf]

While on one hand i do have mixed feelings about you telling everyone that duping was back on the menu i very much appreciate the work you do testing everything over and over again mate. Keep up the good work.

[@christianmaheu]

Thank you for testing this. This is a Hot Mess as CIG as no clue on how to fix Duping unfortunately as clearly, this is not the way. I am with you on the " Repair and pay the cost to get your weapons back". I spent countless hours travelling to planets to get my components, I, lost a few to bugs (Attritions in particular) and I hate to say it, but I have used the claim function to get some back as there was no way I was going to travel "again" to get that one gun that the cargo elevator bugged out and "ate"!

[@2s2-2p6]

5:42 did you tried switching tabs and switching back in your mobiglass? Works for me.

[@jsutorus]

I appreciate these videos and agree that until crafting is implemented we should be able to pay to create the items. Even at 10x the cost as you said. High costs keeps us engaged in the gameplay loops and is far preferable to only getting to lose subscriber items once a major patch.

[@Weevil-Knievel1134]

Those “abandon ships” are probably the same ships you see floating all over the place just outside the New Babbage hangars or littered all over the ground there. They are “abandon” because bugs , they do great research 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@chrishemmer6307]

Thanks for testing these. What we aren't getting to is how it should work with neither the before or after hotfix seems to be there. It's probably in between. Repairs should cost money but only fix damaged or destroyed items actually on your ship at time of repair. No filling an empty component or weapon hard point with a default item and definitely not replacing your functioning components with default. They clearly broke that with the hot fix. But you also shouldn't be able to strip a weapon off, click repair and get a new one. Actual claims are another matter as how it works is close but the customizing comes free, making destroying your ship preferable to repair. I think the solution here is multitiered claim levels: claim stock plus any equipment in your permanent account hanger, claim customized which costs aeu much like repair, and maybe a third tier for rare items that might have an additional premium and even cool down that can't be expedited for rare items as if you were hiring somebody to source the item for you. The cool down could even be tied to how rare the item is, scaling up in real world time in the range of days. Importantly an insurance claim means you no longer own the claimed ship and any equipment on it, so salvaging would be theft that they could fine you for or send you to jail to make any fraud highly unprofitable, risky, and unfun.

[@GabriStarlink]

"Hot mess", is my answer. Cap, You have my support.

[@Lab00Rat]

When SC goes live, the $20 for 20k UEC will mean that it costs more than $400 USD to repair your ship (based on what you showed here). Real world correlated dollar costs will kill this game. EVE does this type of math to understand and estimate ship value losses in large conflicts. Right now purchasing torpedoes for the Polaris is several times the related cost of a purple fit titan in EVE. The cost to buy bullets for real dollars is a terrible business model. Sure, it's alpha, but if nobody does this math to correlate in-game cost with real dollars, then the shock of bullet inflation will tank this project forever.

[@RainbowTearz]

This is not meant to be taken as a criticism, but just my personal observation and opinion based on said observation so far: The makers of this game ultimately chose to move forward with certain features, but also WITHOUT certain features that were previously stated as intended to be implemented into Star Citizen BEFORE 4.0's release (and yes, I'll acknowledge that right now, it's been classified as a "Live Preview" and the clause they snuck in regarding it that basically allows them to exercise the right of shutting it down if something major happens and it doesn't meet their expectations). To my original point though, one of these features that they have continuously been putting off properly/officially implementing is the famous item recovery so that players who spent real-world currency on items would have a reliable way to get their paid for items back - and not have to wait for new patches every time they lose these types of items. The fear of losing these items in the current game environment in which we players/testers play/test should not be underestimated. And it's not just with pledged items but even attributed items that were simply earned through event participation, such as Save Stanton, annual holiday events and etc. The fact is, we didn't spend money or sacrifice time to use an item perhaps once every patch... So basically, not addressing this very strong gear fear and leaving out an official item recovery system is what's coming back to bite them in the butt right now. There might be way less complaint about losing in-game stuff if we can at least get the stuff we actually paid for back with a system in place for it. But right now, because such a thing has not been sufficiently provided yet, and it's all too easy to lose something to a bug but a pain in the neck to obtain in most cases, the gear fear is spreading more and more - especially after this hot mess of a hotfix that now cripples the repair of in-game lootable ship parts. And yes, Star Citizen is a very unique game that's very much still on it's way to become publicly recognized as a finished product, but even early access for most MMOs I've experienced have had some sort of item recovery system included waaaay earlier in their development stages and did not have many issues with duping because of it. This feels like an issue that's unique to Star Citizen because of what they want to accomplish but at the same time the reality of the instability the game is in without any way to recover unique items that are meant to be recovered and yet maintain their uniqueness. I really look forward to the day they finally include item recovery as they intended, as well as get the game-breaking bugs (which are in fact being reported) more under control that causes us this stress - and I mean the type of stress that takes the fun out of the experience rather than contributes to it. In the meantime, I'll just be doing my thing with stock stuff for now...

[@emperor_pewpew2903]

I appreciate you for finding these bugs you are a real one i hope they can fix this also

[@mortenhumble6063]

For science - appreciate your effort and thanks for sharing 💪

[@zolonstrife]

Great vid! If only more people played this game as an alpha and stopped playing it as if its been fully released. To me its not duplicating if I am having to pay for the cost of weapon/component, otherwise id make the claim that any shop purchase is a duping. I do think ships being claimed and then being able to have duplicate resources is an issue, but the game isnt really in a state where this is a big problem to me, and there are several options they could go to negate this problem. We will see what route CIG chooses.

[@alvatoredimarco]

The comment of "the only way to get more of rare weapons and equipment is through duping" could easily be answered with "or you can do contested zones like CIG intended", but even if we put aside the fact that there are bugs which make this unreliable at best, the fact that people would rather spend time figuring out how to duplicate stuff kinda speaks to how grinding CZs is really just not that much fun.

[@Anonymous-xl9fu]

Thanks Captain! Keep up the good work.

[@22nicodemis]

YOU ARE THE MASTER SPLINTER OF TRUTH. DUPE AWAY

[@ShawnMeira]

I 110% agree with everything you are saying foxy. The "paying to get a weapon or component back" is what most of us do when we need to get more of something. It already costs a good chunk of credits and I agree with you that it is completely fair considering that the crafting and stuff isnt in game yet. I hope you can reach someone at CIG and get them to see how much of a nistake this hotfix change was

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

Thank you, hope this video and all your comments here can reach CIG and make them realize this and do some positive changes that can actually have a satisfactory solution

[@STRFDR]

what did you guys do this man, no joy at all in this one. Wishing you the best man

[@arcakhangaming]

Logic applied! Love you Foxy!

[@sttosin]

I thought you were going to say with the fix, you were now "forced to be the dupe king" 😂😂😂

[@GizOfWar]

I'm also thinking are they implementing ship insurance when you think about it without the next tier insurance you'll only get basic cover (stock component) Maybe there is a limit to how much the insurance will cover maybe 1 ship every 24hr This could be a test patch

[@gildirksen]

Flush the elevator! Another merch statement from foxy. Lol

[@_Smash_]

thanks for the quality information as always foxy!!!

[@Schooterl]

I feel that stock weapons should be available to claim through a station, but rare weapons should have to be in stock. Whether that's from real players that have sold there collected weapons, or they are manufactured/delivered in game. That being said claiming your ship should come with your old loadout (because it's getting delivered), and depending on your insurance dictates how much you pay. If you can't afford the upgraded parts, then you can go to the stock until you have enough to pay for them again.

[@BlooJay.mp4]

The real dupers were the friends we made along the way

[@johnnymclemore8255]

As always excellent investigative work into CIG coding issues. Some people may not like exposing this exploit but this is an error on CIG's part and I believe making it known to all will force CIG to address the issue. If you pay for the repair it's not an exploit it a feature. I just hope they do not do another full wipe because of this, I work hard for my credits!

[@Blackkinghtking]

I’m going to be making a spectrum post for this, but I’ll put it here for now. I don’t think this is a fix for the duping, but I think the true fix would be removing the exclusivity of weapons and ship parts, as well as nerfing the ardor damage to the same as base attritions. I think keeping rewards from events/dungeons like these should be cosmetic only. That would fix the balance issues while allowing people to keep their components on ships.

[@boxofcannons600]

Always good to know. Most the time when I have to claim a ship it’s because it’s lost some place because of a bug or because it’s stored across the map and I don’t want to waste the time to go get it.

[@dyryb]

Hey foxy can you check if the retaliator modules get removed if you repair the ship?

[@barsoom]

try with components, they disappear from local inventory when you reclaim a ship. I guess they will make the same thing with weapons, where they would disappear from inventory whatever you do

[@none3418]

not a hot fix. a hot mess. haha so good. the dupe king has spoken. for the KING

[@Oh10patriot]

You're the best. I appreciate all the work you're doing!! I would certainly rather pay a higher repair fee to get all my s*** back the way it was, which is how they said insurance is supposed to be in the future. I can't log in right now, but did anyone try the mule?

[@hedeon1979]

The removed weapons disappear once you claim the ship, even if you have already mounted them and saved on another ship so no duplication is happening

[@cicio7777]

So i take it 4.0 is still buggy?

[@Gioke.]

10:20 I''ve already made a clip of this. Finally someone voicing it out as it is. IT IS FUN, and meaningful. Is it how's its supposed to be at the end? No. Is it a decent enough placeholder, above having nothing else to rely on? Much more likely. Thank you Foxy for your work.

[@JustJohnny555]

You have my respect for testing it all. I liked when the gun racks worked since it’s so tedious to load your ship. The biggest whiners don’t even use that function or sell guns as their gameplay loop. So their argument was disingenuous

[@willbaker4544]

Hot mess. Pre-hotfix was a better system w/ QoL upgrade for players. I agree with you that this new hotfix which removed the QoL upgrade that allowed us to finally stock our ships in a reasonable manner made the game worse. Supposedly the intent was to stop duping, yet now you can truly dupe ship weapons and components for way less cost than what we were paying under the previous system. A ship and FPS loadout feature needs to be put in ASAP.

[@Tigbitty14]

"There is now no way to get more rare components except to legit duplication" Sir, the option CIG wants you to take is to get more rare components through gameplay like Contested Zones, PVP, and Bounty Hunting.... THAT is the option haha. But I do agree, this is still a hot mess for sure.

[@kVidStream]

CIG implemented a wrong solution to the problem.

[@rogueasi8637]

Its not duping. Might be ins fraud. Keep up good work and ignore the salty Karens

[@DecanFrost]

Thank you for your hard work mate, don't always comment but i appreciate your efforts. Getting things done in SC isn't always easy, especially repeatable testing. And i agree with you, this would be a good money sick, more realistic money sick. Thank you 🫡

[@Zypher_Caplan]

So salvage is on the up & up

[@Monyamu]

All these insurance stuff was fun for me. Now not even the ship loadouts work. I can’t go back to this state. I’ll stay on Arena Commander until they don’t have something similar in the game as before. It felt nice and immersive to care about my ship and not just station teleport with disconnecting if i was too lazy to fly back and dock it. Strange how much a couple hundred thousand of credit spent on a filled weapon rack gives value to a ship.

[@zolmazzoboto6085]

Looking forward to the crafting aspect.

[@andrewfanner2245]

HotFux... Lost all the upgrades to my Corsair, a week's hard graft scavenging. I'm not happy at all beecause like some other ships its now simply got empty slots.

[@jpsaayman9220]

CIG really messed up with this hotfix. They should just bring in ship insurance already that will fix it.. that's if it works as they said it would

[@drivennale8551]

Guessing we got a sneak peak of the current state of insurance, easily exploitable, and just as broken.

[@mndeg]

best ship for duping confirmed

[@recasa61]

its a horrible mess foxy and i totally support your Idea its not duping if you paying.

[@Izack]

I agree with the fact that i knew i could claim and get the stuff for free, but i never did that. i always paid. It was just easier LOL!

[@chawkes70]

Reapiring and paying aUEC is a much better choice (and its a money sink. Blueprints and item recovery is probably years away) than what CIG went with but hey they've been making the worst choices for 12 years now. Whats the bet they double down and make it worse lol

[@BrokenImmersions]

Servers were averaging 500 people before the hotfix. But is now averaging around 100-150, congrats CIG you pulled another MM 😂

[@Cyberbanksy]

Wish my hornet mk II ghost could also fit a ball turrets and nose turret.. every time I buy these items thinking it’s a bug I can’t put them on my ship, doesn’t show on the customization and I bought the ship package

[@MysteicVoltronus]

On the missiles? Do you just have to restock them after the repair?

[@alexc9434]

Not playing until this gets fixed

[@hamitron]

They should make ship claims give base load out to be as bought when new. I wish they'd also go back to not replacing missiles on insurance claims. Insurance should be the least favoured option. Still not great with losses due to game bugs.

[@Halengar-o7]

I don't care what anyone says about duping More than a few people were already doing it and you're the one to highlight the issue so it can be fixed. The problem with this though is that the status quo for quite a few patches in a row has been that we have been able to loot components off of ships and then save them to our loadout It felt like a kind of progression the game didn't really have but now it feels like it's gone

[@hanzo52281]

They need to figure something out. If manually pulled off the ship. You don't get it back after repairing OR claiming. If destroyed. You get it back during repair and reclaiming.

[@M0T4]

What this app overlay with fps and cpu?

[@BobWobbles]

Hasn't it always been like this though? Whenever I lose a weapon in combat I always self destruct rather than repair (unless I'm using a stock loadout) because it will revert to stock. I've been doing this for years and can recall putting in a ticket at the Issue Council a couple of years ago about this very thing.

[@RazgrizRaptor]

I wish games would see "issues" like this and instead of fixing them, learn to use them to their advantage. If I had a say in CIG on what to do with this, I would have them rework this "duping" into a proper working feature. they even have the baseprint for this setup with how the "FPS weapon insurance" was working. claim a ship, gun racks empty, spend the money, restock the racks. same thing but for ship parts. Claim a ship: it gives you the ship with stock parts. Then climb into the ship and "repair" it to pay a butt-ton of money to restore those parts. in theory, this will prevent people from "claiming" a ship just to hastily move it from point A to point B. it also allows for those parts to be "duped" by paying a ton of money should a player desire to do this.

[@SolarWindsRider]

And what happens if you swap components around in loadout manager? Some people reported custom components will disappear when you unequip them, others that custom components will not save (which I think was the case before as well, at least you couldn't save ardor via loadout manager). It would be really nice to have a single video that verifies all scenarios.

[@druid4lifee]

I don't see noting being fix or change their ways. They make more money keeping the game at this state then actually finishing the game. IE look at this hot-patch. They are real quick put to this in. But hanger noise/recall ship still a hot mess.

[@radioactiveburrito1340]

they just need to revert the insurance "fix" and let things be how they where. with all the bugs and issues there is no reason to try and prevent players from testing the game with less loot stress. either need to make stuff purchasable again or let us find it then insure it. too many big names crying about it and not enough players speaking out saying its exactly why they liked that patch..

[@KaryudoDS]

Makes more sense to get nothing in the slot from a repair if there was nothing actually in the slot at the time outside of cases where you've lost a wing etc as well. Though making that whole change that they did while we have insurance also in a temporary form just seems odd. Fix one issue, while leaving the other issue that's been around forever. I duno, I just play here lol

[@Nero-Caesar]

I'm boycotting the game fps weapon insurance was the most fun I've had in a long time finally I could play without fear. It finally gave weapon racks a purpose and breathed life into my ships. I don't care if someone paid one million credits for one hundred rail guns. Or duplicate the coolest rarest armor it's a game it's about having fun. At the very least they should've made it where you could only dupe items in your player hangar or acquired in the in-game shops.

[@JLKnolla]

@Cpt_Foxyloxy - can you confirm that component upgrades can be done through mobiglas vehicle loadout manager (e.g., quantum drive, powerplant, cooler, shield generators), or do they need to be physically removed/installed?

[@cpt_foxyloxy]

I have done it once in with no problem, but I need to test this more to be certain

[@JLKnolla]

@@cpt_foxyloxy Thanks - and I assume FPS weapons and armor are just no go now even with reclaim?

[@fishheadbreakroom]

its hurried for sure

[@filipbronola536]

Anyone crack the “commodity” duplication dupe? We should flood the non existent economy yeehaw

[@ItsOnlyMeNL]

Swapping mining heads in the mobi glass also don't save. I saved twice different heads on the mole but it didn't save. Had to manually change them out when the ship was spawned...

[@Raigoth]

What makes the NDB's different from something like the Attritions? Damage, or are they just something that looks better?

[@Raigoth]

Also, this is why I only do salvaging right now. No point in doing anything else with such a huge risk of losing it. The gear fear is real.