I think other commentors here have interesting thoughts about Jace's reluctance to test the dragon seeds. However, I think some of those ideas are crediting Jace with far too much circumspection for the future. At it's core, I think his reluctance is based in a much more personal trauma: he has had to live nearly his entire life with a massive case of imposter syndrome. The one thing that, until now, has indisputably proven him to be worthy successor to the throne is his connection to the dragons. I don't think he dislikes commoners claiming dragons because he fears that they might claim the throne later. I think its more that it will de-legitimise his own claim and weaken the dynasty's claim as a whole. I'd also suggest that, after all the sacrifices he's had to make (such as ignoring the death of his father) to protect Rhaenyra's lies, it's understandable that he's angry about her, potentially, throwing it all away.
@daveemerson65493 ай бұрын
Burned tissue tightens horribly as it scars. Patients have to do physical therapy even as the burns start healing to continually flex the injured area, or else it'll tighten so much that movement becomes excruciating. I'm guessing that's what Aegon is going through.
@jamescheddar48963 ай бұрын
sometimes you just gotta work through the pain baby
@r.gvandaele96523 ай бұрын
Silverwing is the most docile and friendly dragon even to strangers. The lover/mate of vermithor. 😍 Just like Queen Alysanne and King Jahaerys I are the old riders, and were married as well. I believe thats daemons and viserys grand parents. The old king in episode 1 season 1. Silverwing is also syrax’s mother.
@joramsim3 ай бұрын
rhaenyra doesnt want to catch the greens off-guard:) as she explains in this episode she hopes that her gaining these dragons ends the war because of the power they bring to her site, not because they want to surprise attack aegon:) a demonstration of power is EXACTLY what rhaenyra needs and wqnts to do!
@roderickburdett-coutts64323 ай бұрын
It was so satisfying, watching Daemon being force fed a giant helping of humble pie. I am also amazed, that Lord Oscar walks with a normal gait, considering his giant balls!
@jjfragglerock50203 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your reactions! It's funny the skull is seen throughout, sometimes it throws me off thinking it's in the scene(s), lol.
@daveemerson65493 ай бұрын
It looked like Jace was wearing a skull t-shirt
@HackWilson143 ай бұрын
Jace has a valid point that should be taken more seriously. Jace has seen his mother, the named heir, have to go to war for her throne because it was contested by other family members and high born once her father died just because she’s a woman and they believed the male has the better claim. Jace has black hair. If there are other dragon riders out there with silver hair who are Targaryen bastards, why wouldn’t other high born lords see them as having the better claim once his mother dies? Especially if that silver haired dragon riding bastard is legitimized to have the taint of being a bastard taken off. Jace is being completely screwed over for the future and he’s super smart to see it, because he is seeing the same thing play out with his mom. Technically team black has enough dragons to defeat Vhagar with Rhaenrya, daemon, Jace, Baela, and Addam, but it surely would result in the loss of at least two of the dragon riders on her side and she rightfully doesn’t want to lose Jace or Baela and it’s considered too risky to fight herself. So it’s understandable why she would be making the decision she makes, but it’s also very short sighted
@Dokari-l9m3 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t get her decision. Like her whole idea is she has no dragons and need more. But her great plan is to give it to people she has never met or even known existed? The great plan was to give people dragons and it’ll go well because she’s the queen? They have no reason to be loyal to her. All their lives was spent in the mud because of their parents choice and now they are brought forth to die for someone who doesn’t care about them. I don’t get what she expects but I can’t wait to see who betrays her side
@hedinsee68303 ай бұрын
@@Dokari-l9m Yeah, it's an insanely desperate plan both in the book (where, paradoxically, Jace is the one to suggest this) and in the show. The only reasoning I can think of is that they thought they would quickly win the war and deal with the dangerous seeds afterwards. They obviously never considered dragonseeds conspiring *together* and thought the family combined could easily put down any one upstart who would have ideas above his station. Which is not unreasonable. The quick resolution of the current conflict is the weak point in this plan...
@Dokari-l9m3 ай бұрын
@@hedinsee6830 even then how do they plan to stop vermithor if he rebels? It’s just a slightly smaller vaghar with more attitude. It’s things like this that make me not like team black. Too many short sided mistakes.
@hedinsee68303 ай бұрын
@@Dokari-l9m Assuming the war is over and the family rule is united and he is alone in his rebellion, he would have to overcome all the rest of the dragons together. Vermithor and Vhagar are formidable, but they are not indestructible. Meleys alone was able to fight Vhagar with some success (not to mention the upcoming fight from the book that we won't spoil here). Even a couple of grown dragons could overwhelm any lone one. So *this* particular part is sensible. The problem is the number of assumptions that I mentioned in the beginning. That's why it's indeed a desperately insane plan in the first place.
@Dokari-l9m3 ай бұрын
@@hedinsee6830 I find her logic makes sense in desperation, but it makes her look like a bad queen. Her job as ruler is to defend the realm. If she doesn’t account for very obvious threats she doesn’t deserve the throne.
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
Silverwing is basically a dragon with golden retriever energy. Very friendly and docile but can have a fierce side but generally she's chill and playful.
@Eagle09-nv5xd3 ай бұрын
And apparently according to the guy SILVERwing was blue.
@Not_Theon_Reek3 ай бұрын
Let’s go. Have something to pass the time while waiting for the finale🔥🔥🔥
@joshuad53003 ай бұрын
The sound design on this rivals even surpasses the cgi holy crap!
@royhiltoniii70323 ай бұрын
Alicents Knight that accompanied her in the woods could be a good Baylan Skoll recast.
@airconditionedrelco70992 ай бұрын
Man i love how Bartimos Celtigar was so upset by a dragon being claimed by a lowborn because his house decended from valyria
@meximoan3 ай бұрын
I think Rhaenyra wanted to let Aemond know she has more dragons because she thinks them simply knowing that, that'll be enough to get them to end the war. But she kinda naive
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
It's not Jace disliking others getting dragons. It's the fact that they by existing could delegitimise his claim. He also makes a good point that if one of them rebels or decides they want to rule they'd be adding to their enemies.
@bryannkam3 ай бұрын
Silverwing (Ulf’s Dragon/Vermithor’s mate) be like: You’re (Ulf) funny 😄, I like you 🥰.
@beefi4113 ай бұрын
Well, some say "One eye for a Dragon", others say "A bunch of Bastards for a Dragon".
@hannahawesome853 ай бұрын
So happy to finally see your reaction to this episode!! 😍 I think this episode is great and the dragons look so fierce and cute! Vermithor was provided with so many snacks that day! 🏃🏃♀️🏃♂️🔥🔥🔥🐲 Silverwing is like happy golden retriever who want to play. Such a sweetie. Very cool looking designs on both of them. Seasmoke looks more (or exactly?) like Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion so it's nice to see other designs. I just love all the dragons so much 🖤and I'll be very sad when they will fight and ultimately die. 🥺 Oscar Tully serving Daemon some humble pie was awesome to see. 🤣 Ser Simon Strong is just there and I love him too. ❤️
@planetarygears84223 ай бұрын
There are 8 episodes scheduled, not 10, so the next one is the last episode for two years!
@aaronunsfe2 ай бұрын
What he doesn't realize that his bloodline is not low born. Jac's father was a highborn. These dragonseeds may have a highborn parent but because one of one of the parents isnt highborn is what he worries about plus his hair color may play some part to his concerns.
@jackson8573 ай бұрын
You should have sympathy for Jace. He makes completely valid points.
@Eagle09-nv5xd3 ай бұрын
I love how none of the scorpions in kings landing decide to shoot.
@hackt3d3 ай бұрын
You are wrong about the old Valyria. People just assumed it to avoid contradiction. Only Targaryen bloods can claim Dragons. The issue with Addam was because he was not Corlys' son. He was Laenor's bastard. It was in the book. Addam the one who claimed Seasmoke was not the son of Corlys. Addam was a bastard of Laenor. Which makes Addam as Corlys' Grandchild. Addam's mom was Corlys and Laenor's sidechick. There was a time when Laenor just reached puberty, Corlys brought his son to his sidechick(Addam and Alyn's mom) in order for his son Laenor to get experience. It created a seed which is Addam. Laenor felt disgusted with it so his preference was turned towards men. So Alyn is like Addam's half brother and uncle. That is the reason why Addam has a Targaryen blood which he acquired from his father Laenor who is the son of Rhaenys. Seasmoke also took a liking at Addam because he resembles his Targaryen father Laenor Velaryon.
@anthonywilliams54753 ай бұрын
Also vhagar is 181 years old vermithor is 95
@scottreyes52323 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this reaction!!
@Not_Theon_Reek3 ай бұрын
I think she wanted to bait Aemond out and flex on him
@thetexanjedi953 ай бұрын
Hugh matched Vermithor's intensity.
@muhammadhabibieamiro36393 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this
@artblue99753 ай бұрын
See Ya!
@aegorbittersteel21543 ай бұрын
HOUSE BRACKEN GOT JUSTICE!!!!
@GingerMT-o4m3 ай бұрын
I cannot believe that you are going to be that ignorant of why Jace is upset. He didn’t choose to be born a bastard. That was his mothers choice. He has been kissed his entire life about that and the one that he has that makes him have a claim to the throne is that he can ride a dragon if she can throw any bastard on a dragon and they can ride it then his claim to the throne just went out the window and if you can’t understand why that would upset him then I don’t know what to say.
@thomasluke-wp8or3 ай бұрын
Jacaerys' point is incredibly valid. He knows he will have to war for his own succession if rhaenyra does this. Unfortunately there is no choice. His concern is also their loyalty If you wanna know about hughs mother, read about saera targaryen They COOKED with vermithors design. He was always my favourite in the book and im glad he looks just as good as i imagine
@viggolover13 ай бұрын
at least Daenerys dragons the egg color was the color of the dragon : Drogon red and black egg red, Rhaegal green green egg, Viserion cream w/gold horns gold egg
@thecoldestlightning3 ай бұрын
...smh - You completely missed the whole point Jacaerys was making. This is so much more than him not liking someone having a dragon.
@grizzledwizard71293 ай бұрын
His point is that giving dragons to others weakens the Targaryen hegemony lol we didn't miss it per se we just don't really take this that seriously
@thecoldestlightning3 ай бұрын
@grizzledwizard7129 His point is that allowing random people (particularly lowborns) who have no loyalty or aligience to Rhaenyra access their largest/oldest dragons is a bad idea. These new dragon riders can now make a claim for the throne over both Rhaenrya (because they are male) and Jacaerys (because he is a bastard & they look more Targaryen than his does.)
@amurderofbananas74493 ай бұрын
@@thecoldestlightningabsolutely. Take Hugh for example. What if he decided he was the rightful king? He’s the son of a Targaryen princess, cousin to Visarys, physically imposing, and now in possession of Vermithor, who is more than twice the size of Syrax and ten times larger than Vermax. He’d also be wildly popular with the small folk.
@grizzledwizard71293 ай бұрын
I mean I'd vote for him
@hedinsee68303 ай бұрын
@@grizzledwizard7129 The problem is not only in bastard dragonriders completely undermining Rhaenyra's succession and all but guaranteeing *another* succession war after her. Not only in giving away nuclear weapons to people outside the family which all but guarantees power struggles where *both* sides have nukes. The worst part is giving the *ultimate power* to people who never had *any* . Giving nukes to people who not only have no loyalty to you, but have no respect to the institution itself. People whose loyalty you cannot guarantee since you've given them the only instrument capable of such a guarantee. People who can now topple the *throne itself* and plunge the realm into a bloody anarchy that will make the mere dynastic war seem like a picnic. *That* is the scariest part in this. This is not a democracy where you can vote for them, this is a fight where people throw nukes around without a second thought. So Jace's point is completely sensible. Because this plan is completely insane in its desperation.
@Karle943 ай бұрын
Come along Pon... I mean Lord Oscar. I hope hope Matt played around with that line. Would have made a good gag reel.
@rabmakz25643 ай бұрын
I understand Jace’s concerns though. The Bastards are getting the larger dragons and what happens if they change their minds and go against Rhaenera. What then?
@Seabasstard223 ай бұрын
16:47 he LOOKS like a bastard, on top of having a very young dragon, and he’s one of the youngest of the bastards. His “claim” to the throne is IMMEDIATELY lessened if the bastards are legitimized. Them and there dragons are older and they look closer to targaryens than he. So it’s like if you got a job at your family’s restaurant then some random half brother comes in and he had spent x amount of years cooking for the king of your country and then the family brings them into the fold and now your position in the family is outshined cause someone is your elder and fits the mold better than you. I like using good for analogies they work best.
@ancatdal3 ай бұрын
I think Ulf was still figuring out how to ride a dragon, and Silverwing was the one making the decision to fly to King's Landing; perhaps she has missed the place she used to live before, or she picked up on Ulf's wish to "show off to his mates" through their bond. Regarding Jace, I didn't get the impression that he was begrudging others having dragons - it was his idea, after all, to look for possible Dragonriders further out in the family tree. But this society has a massive prejudice towards bastards, and the only "shield" Jace has against the "taint" of his bastardy is that he was able to claim a dragon. Back in season 1, Alicent mentioned how it was a surprise that Rhaenyra's children were able to claim dragons, and this despite the fact that Alicent has half-Targaryen children too. There exist this idea that a bastard would not be able to claim a dragon, and that's the "shield" Jace has had, and now the mother who made him a bastard wants to take it away from him. I still think Rhaenyra makes the right decision, because there is no claim without these dragons to stand against Vhagar, but I get why it hurts Jace so much.
@Darth_Nycta_133 ай бұрын
I think it was probably both silverwing wanting to see king's landing and to help Ulf show off.