Houston Rockets Best and Worst Lineups, Why the "Terror Twins" Work and Sengun's MVP Discussions??

[@zeysus9116]

While Sengun's traditional stats may not show it, he has a top 10 player progression due to his impact on every aspect of the game, really every aspect. And he does this even though he's not even close to his standard as a finisher. Insane. Rockets has that guy.

[@anthonyturley5256]

@@zeysus9116 Even more amazing is how Rafael Stone was able to sign Alpi to a Team-Friendly deal .. cuz he could have finished out the Year & forced the Rockets to give him a Max Contract (or very close to one) because he’s definitely making the All-Star Team

[@TheMemorgan1]

His humility is remarkable, it equals his confidence, and we, as fans, are reaping an amazing experience. Go Rockets!

[@bootzmcgillicuty]

​@@anthonyturley5256dude is 22...wow....I'm just happy to be a fan.

[@scooterchannelanddoityoursel]

Sengun is just starting, he is going to become much better. His body will develop, hell be stronger. His midrange is gonna improve, his passing will become more precise. His 3 point will hit. Its a Monster that will emerge. Everyone be aware, Godzilla is coming soon .

[@onuncukoy3404]

Şengün is fighting incredibly both in defense and offense this season! However, this situation causes him to become even more worn out during the match. Moreover, this season the opponent team is aware that Şengün is the key player and is constantly trying to stop him with double or triple pressure. If Houston had good shooters, Şengün's job would be much easier. Since the shooters are unstable, the opposing defenses play by sinking inside, which makes things difficult for him. With a good shooter, Sengun's statistics can go much higher and he can make more Triple Doubles this season. Moreover, this man is only 22 years old. I think he will turn into a superstar in the next 2 seasons.

[@paquitocauli5229]

man, i love yall's show! i learn a lot about the game. you guys break it down with numbers instead of emotions. keep it up! much love from korea!

[@jnrz4552]

top tier stufff again Frank and Roosh

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Thanks for the love! -Roosh

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Appreciated!

[@bastadimasta]

This season is Amen's first DPOY year.

[@DavidGonzalez-ml4nv]

Solid discussion on the squad development. Backup Center and/or consistent Shooting for Jalen is the upgrade for our team. I believe the vets want more chips so they may take a paycut after our initial generous contracts. The team has tremendous potential.

[@RobCortez0416]

Love this analysis. Great conversation. I'm with y'all in that I've said we should know who the team is after 20 games. And Jabari is right on track. I said when he came out that paolo would look better initially as an individual player, but Jabari would contribute more to winning.

[@RobCortez0416]

If we end up top 4 in the West and he keeps us this effort, Al-P absolutely deserves MVP consideration. He's money on offense when we need him, but his defense has been legit incredible. Scary thing is I don't think he's playing his best on offense yet.

[@Mizokpan]

Happy Thanksgiving!

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Same to you bro, much appreciated!

[@hazorg16]

if wemby and harden are in the mvp lists then şengün has to be there too. he is the best player in the #2 seed in the west ffs

[@chettmen783]

Does Sengun have a case to be in the MVP conversation? Absolutely, IF he can get back to his normal finishing levels. If that happens he might legit be a top 15-20 player in the NBA. His defensive impact has arguably been better then his offensive impact some games so far. So all he needs to do is get back to his normal finishing level. Now do I think he will win MVP probably not. Other guys are having some monster seasons right now, but def should be in the conversation.

[@RobCortez0416]

It starts with the conversation though. NBA is political. It's like you need to be in the running before to get it in the future.

[@baha07TR]

Superb Host + Superb guest = super educative program . Thank you 🎉🎉🎉

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Second time I’m called a guest on my own pod! Lol 😂 -Roosh

[@baha07TR]

2 super Hosts .. Excellent ,educative program. Respect...🎉 ​@@StateOfTheRockets

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

😂

[@bastadimasta]

I really would like to see Sengun as the MVP but Jokic is playing on God-Mode this season.

[@AyushKhanapure]

@@bastadimasta I don’t even think sengun is top 15 for mvp right now

[@SKULLZ3480]

Zaten takımın MVP diye bahsetmişler.

[@lactobacillusacidophilus]

@@AyushKhanapure They meant, MVP of the team. But Allstar this year is close.

[@AyushKhanapure]

@@lactobacillusacidophilus he mentioned jokic tho😂

[@daveruss9972]

Pump your breaks lil bro. Let's just focus with getting him on the All-Star team.

[@krisg3818]

This team is good. But the main issue has always been Jalen green. He and fvv are the reason the rockets offense is so inconsistent. Because both of them shoot to much and are very poor efficiency players. Jalen green shows up once in a blue moon. And can shoot you out of alot of games too same with fvv. Fvv has never been a efficient player since he has been in the league. Both of them take to many shots and miss way to many. That's why in my personal opinion in order for this rockets team to be taken seriously. Fvv and Jalen green need to be traded for a more efficient player. This team is capped when u have 2 guys that shoot so many shots and miss way more than they make which is why the offense is widely inconsistent

[@haydirockets]

We have a high floor of this team with Sengun already, which is great! In my opinion, if Amen is better than we imagined and can become league average shooter, our ceiling is sky-high!

[@TheMemorgan1]

Love seeing Sengun excel. Looks like he puts in work. Go Rockets!

[@TheMemorgan1]

Amen and Tari are committed. They feed off each other. It's amazing.

[@sabloncu]

If only Tari hadn't missed most of last season due to injury-we could've seen the Terror Twins in action then. This young team might've shaken up the league and gotten their first playoff experience. Instead, we had to sit through Jae’Sean Tate logging 16 minutes a game as Brooks' backup..

[@morpheusdezion]

As great as Al P is - & for the record, I agree with everyone in here about (1) his progression every year & (2) how much of a monster he can become - this team can’t get to the top of the league unless we have a dynamic wing that can help this team with CONSISTENT scoring, being (at least) a 3pt threat, & closing capabilities. That being said, being where we are at right now is a million times better than where we were under Silas. If you withstood those years & continued to watch the Rockets play, you are a true fan & soldier, bc that was some YMCA basketball posing as professional ball.

[@billharrisjazzbluesandmore7948]

Good show guys thanks

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Thanks for listening! -Roosh

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Appreciate you!

[@clipcorleone_7thdayfamilia]

Salute Frank🫡 I'm familiar with Gonzales TX. Glad you had a good time with the family.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Thanks man! 🙏🏽

[@KyouOneZilla]

I know we want Bari to be the backup 5, but the team tried it at the beginning of last season and it was extremely bad. Bari was going to the bench after about 4 minutes in the 1st, would later come in for Sengun and then they would stagger throughout the game. The early bench run kept him from warming up at the start and then he also never got to share the court with Sengun, and his numbers reflected that.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Yea he needs to be groomed to be a true 5 and not just Bari at center .. his screening and footwork when he’s the 5 is poor and doesn’t help the team .

[@goodlyfe5018]

I like Moses Brown as a rim protector and he’s huge, with perimeter defense it would be a nightmare. Johnathan Isaac would be like a dream scenario I just don’t know how we would get him.

[@StateOfTheRockets]

I’ve liked Moses Brown when I’ve seen him play against Houston, but for some reason he always bounces around and never sticks on a team. I wonder why. -Roosh

[@emrahduman8783]

First 20 games takes: 1- We need a backup PG and C. 2- JG plays like an off-the-bench scorer. But we can’t replace him with Amen in the starting lineup due to politics and not impacting his trade value. Predictions: 1-Alpi will be an All Star this season. 2-Alpi will lead the team in at least 4 categories. PPG, RPG, APG, BPG, and maybe TruShooting %. 3- We will be in the playoffs but will be eliminated first round.

[@RobCortez0416]

1 - Agree 2 - He won't lead in PPG or APG. That'll be Jalen and Fred. 3 - I think we win the first round and give some experienced team a scare in the second.

[@MrKarapasa]

seriously, u guys need a bigger show, it's not funny to wait for content.. and if we set this as the standard.. all the other pods out there are not even in the same universe!!

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Thanks for the love!!! -Roosh

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Appreciate it brother!

[@pdxshaman7623]

Truth. Frank and Roosh are great podcast hangs with awesome insight. Keep it up y’all!

[@rhopere]

It's funny that our best lineup has a guy at shooting guard who isn't that great at shooting the ball (though he has been getting better so who knows in the future)

[@HouStoneSZN]

Thanks Frank

[@PatkaBoy831]

Bad Boy Rockets.

[@StateOfTheRockets]

No Diddy!

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

I like that!

[@justice4g]

the 2nd lineup needs FVV, got to sub accordingly

[@gonasek8189]

Alpi Sen-Gun 🚀🔥💪🇹🇷 Fred,Jalen,jabari,Brooks,Thompson,Eason very Good Job

[@clipcorleone_7thdayfamilia]

"Grit n Grind Rockets" is horrible nickname Roosh, im sorry. Yes Madison got lucky with the Terror Twins name, but it's not meant for all of us to coin awesome nicknames. Great basketball takes tho 💪🏼💪🏼🚀🚀

[@Ftank58]

What is a good name?

[@PatkaBoy831]

@@Ftank58 Bad Boy Rockets.

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Lol this is not a nickname I’m trying to coin. It’s a nod to the Grit N Grind Grizzlies because these Rockets have some similarities to those teams. (Sengun::Marc Gasol; FVV::Mike Conley; Dillon Brooks::Tony Allen; the overall intensity of their defense and lack of reliability from their offense, etc.)

[@acrocketsfan]

Sengun is looking great! He is our best player, but he has competition on his own team ascending fast. This is a great problem to have. Amen and Tari has great potential above where they are now. Jalen, wouldn't hurt my feelings if a trade deadline deal could be had for him. My 2 cents.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Thanks for chiming in bro.

[@DIRA-1319]

Jokic offence is super strong but his defence sucks. Thats why a lot of people vote for sga last year. Sengun has to get a all star first. He is not at that MVP level. Thats too much praise.

[@gonasek8189]

Calm down Alpi to first All star With Love from Turkey

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Have you seen the list of mvp candidates.. not saying he’s even close to it but the conversation

[@DIRA-1319]

@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP he is definetly a MVP caliber player for the future but in this season a difficult task but he has to be very proud of himself to be that good in defence.

[@EF_HUTTON]

Im about to gey killllled but yall cant tell me yall dont remember Roderick Rhodes... ripped Jordan and Gary Payton ... if i wouldn't have gotten in Rudy T dog house was defensively a phenom like Amen had crazy athleticism and was a good mid range shooter couldn't shoot 3s to much .. Any way Great show biggup

[@StateOfTheRockets]

Definitely remember Roderick Rhodes! Thanks for the love. -Roosh

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

You a true Rockets historian bro.

[@Webbie00]

I disagree about Jock Landale, he actually has played hard. He's not an all-star player but when we needed hustle, he's been there to help

[@rocketsfan6116]

Great episode! But once again, there is no "X" in the word "especially".

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

🤷🏾‍♂️

[@bastadimasta]

The Terror Twins must be really annoying to play against.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

I’m sure.

[@spiritformula]

We shouldn't extend fred for the same money. He's definitely been a key veteran. I would like to see reed get more minutes or let him go to the g league to establish his rhythm. He can't do it with the minutes he's getting.

[@Lee-sn2dp]

Best line up Amen, Green, Dillon, Tari, Al P. Best bench line up Holiday, Amen, Cam, Tari, Bari or Jeff.

[@LH88__]

Lol no its not.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

No fred?

[@RobCortez0416]

MAGA Jalen and Jihadi Fred?!? 😂😂😂

[@StateOfTheRockets]

😂😂

[@jumangeez4255]

Sengun MVP case? No. Not good enough scoring right now. Overall issue? Shooting for sure. Secondary issue? Depth. They are secretly it very deep. Reed not ready. Backup centers suck. If JG is off they’re basically 6 deep, 7 if he’s on.

[@StateOfTheRockets]

The best player on a top-2 conference team (top-4 NBA team) always has a case. That case might be weaker and toward the end of the line, but there is a case. -Roosh

[@StateOfTheRockets]

The best player on a top-2 conference team (top-4 NBA team) always has a case. That case might be weaker and toward the end of the line, but there is a case. -Roosh

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

I think 7.5 … think holiday if given more reps would be a great backup

[@samuelo1119]

@Frank Do you think we should be paying attention to De'Aaron Fox or Dennis Schroder as a potential replacement for Fred Vanvleet once his contract is up

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Fox yes, Schroeder no.. those are polar opposites.. now I could see Dennis as a good backup

[@0Er0]

Amen will be the new black jesus... amen

[@sabityer]

şengun good pıyot

[@scottlove931]

👍

[@sheldonnorred9045]

This a Roosh flu game??

[@StateOfTheRockets]

😂😂 My voice is extra deep when I wake up first thing in the morning. -Roosh

[@Jonnyboy34000]

Selling that because he not finishing around the rim good enough

[@-Yu_Tsugami]

fair point. let's get him to All star first

[@anthonyturley5256]

Super Bullish on this Team Now .. and in the Future (2027 Phx & Brooklyn 1st Round Picks - which means Two Great Lottery Shots @ Tyran Stokes, aka Light Skin Zion Williamson w/ a 3pt shot)

[@stevomania12]

if we take out the rockets im gonna be going crazy

[@TheMemorgan1]

I feel like Jalen is soft. I want him to be more Amen or Dillon like. Fierce. Imposing his will. I'm not sure he has that aggression. I hope I'm wrong.

[@htownbigsteve6358]

Get those likes up...

[@SmilieMoon]

MVP or DPOY or ALLSTAR, these cases arent important than Playoffs matter. Houston needs playoffs first and i think starters should be offense team like this: Al-P, FVV, DB,JG and Cam Whitmore. First quarter is the key of the victory because most teams consists of old guys and they preserve their energy in first quarter to finish the game. Amen and Tari shouldnt be starter for this reason.

[@nakedSnæke]

Cam Whitmore?

[@HarlemPSGamer]

I don’t mind if Amen doesn’t start but he should still be getting starters minutes over 30 minutes per game.

[@quadrumvirate86]

Maga Jalen is crazy 😂

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

😂

[@bastadimasta]

Hi Frank. Please don't call FVV jihadi, despite the beard. We already have the terror twins. You may unwillingly start a bad reputation for the team.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Huh??

[@RedellEllis]

I disagree with the take on Jalen Green. Fred & Seguin are usually in the game with each other or with other Starters. So the plus minus for them are better. The Rockets don't run them out there with Jock L & Sheppard as much. Jalen is usually put back out there with the bench crew. So his plus minus takes a dip

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

That doesn’t account for when he’s not in the starting 5 compared to other players .. and his numbers aside from Philly have been bad.

[@RedellEllis]

Jalen skill set effects (quickness) the way opposing teams prepare for us. Udoka defense 1st mentality (Every Player have to be a 2 Way Player) is a Blessing in disguise for Jalen......I believe he's slowly becoming an unstoppable force.(Jalen upside is the highest in the entire league )

[@stevelogan9166]

Once again you talk about steven adams but he does not play withthe starting five so you cant compare. Look at plus's for everybody.

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

??

[@08Derrock]

MVP belongs to Jokic, Shai, Tatum, hell even Franz over Sengun. And I’m a huge Sengun fan.

[@lllyrea]

Bro tried to sneak in franz 😂

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

MVP discussions .. not mvp out right

[@clipcorleone_7thdayfamilia]

Franz is disrespectful

[@SKULLZ3480]

Franz is a very good player but he is not even close to MVP. Neither is Sengun. Also, these statistics from Franz are very misleading. Because there is no Banchero. With Bachero around, he won't have as many shooting chances and won't be able to hold the ball as much.

[@Lezahfire]

I think jalen need to leave rockets,he is not As important in rockets.he need to find a New team he will complement to His Teammates.

[@Nick-ok4eq]

Shut up already. He's not going anywhere

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Thanks for commenting

[@Jonnyboy34000]

Selling that because he not finishing around the rim good enough

[@ROCKETSCHOPSHOP]

Yea he been bad at the rim.. that alone would push him to a new level.

[@Jonnyboy34000]

@ my team mvp as of now is amen Thompson

[@Jonnyboy34000]

@ it’s like I can’t wait until he get on the court