How A Crossguard Lightsaber Works | Star Wars

[@zachryder3150]

Okay, but what if Barristan Selmy wielded a lightsaber?

[@warlordofbritannia]

yOu mEaN vALyriAn StEeL?

[@TheFandomeClips]

No. We mean a lightsaber. Time to show dawn whose boss 😂 - Thom

[@jacquesjnr.2579]

@@TheFandomeClips Barristan Selmy w a lightsaber vs Arthur Dayne w dawn 👀

[@TheFandomeClips]

Turns out Dawn is made out of Cortosis.... - Thom

[@Naldinho456]

@@jacquesjnr.2579 he one shots Mr featless

[@L1oydC0]

Since lightsabers repel each other due to the magnetic field shrouding the plasma blade, I think it makes sense that having the cross guard would create a denser type of magnetic field as hand defence as it repels things away, basically optimising what already exists

[@TheFandomeClips]

Oh its definitely useful if your accustomed to those quillons! Thanks for watching Lloyd! Liam

[@MozyOnIn]

For Jedi, cutting the hilt is completely fine as it's main purpose is to disarm the opponent (a preferred outcome to killing for a Jedi) which means there's no reason sith would care at all since disarming ur opponent is kind of a neutral thing that can just happen from either side. The only reason sith care about the trakata form (lightsaber off then on) is because they see it as weak whereas the Jedi see it as deceiving an opponent which isn't the Jedi way.

[@jameshedrick4490]

I agree Darth Vader could make great use of a heavier and more powerful lightsaber with his physical strength, height, and reach. However, I think Darth Maul would also do well with one. He has demonstrated his ability to fight with more exotic styles of lightsabers while being quite a physically strong fighter and he also did quite well with a single blade once his second blade was cut off. Another fighter who would do well with such a weapon is Anakin Skywalker post turn to the dark side but before actually becoming Darth Vader. As we see in Revenge of the Sith, Anakin becomes much more aggressive and violent in taking out the trade federation and the Jedi Temple and I honestly felt at this point his traditional blue Jedi weapon seemed a bit feeble in his hands for what he was doing. I could see a turned Anakin still sporting all his limbs, wielding a cross guard lightsaber with as you say, so much energy that it would explode without the vents to relieve the pressure, much like Anakin himself.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think maul could make a sharpend stick into a lethal weapon in all honesty James 😂 but I love the suggestion of Knightfall Vader! Obi Wan: I have the high Ground Knightfall Vader: Parry this you filthy casual Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@libertylemonz7145]

I think the fact that we saw Obi-Wan slide his lightsaber blade down Grievous' blade to cut off Grievous' hand makes the magnetic hilt thing pretty sus

[@TheFandomeClips]

Oh its beyond any doubt an after thought of the EU writers, but it's there and its the best explanation for why people don't attack eachothers hilts out of the gate for the quick win 😂 thanks for watching my free sour friend! Liam

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Form 5 Djem So definitely is the best item for it. I think the metal crossguard is just for defense. But the emiter ones are definitely for extra oomph.

[@TheFandomeClips]

My brain cannot reconcile how its meant for form 2 my crazy Scottish friend 😂 like I said in the video id bet money that bit of lore was written in 5 minutes with only surface glances at the forms for reference lol. Thanks for watching as always! Liam

[@crazyscotsman9327]

@@TheFandomeClips I honestly think you are right for the way it was chosen to be Form 2 weapon. But here's the thing. Form 2 already had a signature weapon! Spread the love Disney! Oh what am I saying. Disney hasn't doesn't know how to make good shit.

[@noweltorres9464]

100% or form 7 I think can work as well

[@The_Malcontented]

Thom will never let Liam live down that one time he mispronounced epitome and I love it

[@11bluekitkats]

At last another Star Wars video! Great video as always! Kylos saber has got to be one of my favorites in all of Star Wars hands down and Kylos definitely one of my favorite characters in the sequels.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey SW Danger! Yeah its been too long since we had a crack at SW! Great to hear from you too haven't seen you in the discord in a while! Hope your doing well! Liam

[@11bluekitkats]

@@TheFandomeClips Been too busy lately so I haven’t been able to find the time to be on discord much, but I’m doing pretty well still! Hope things have been good for you and Thom!

[@jaieregilmore971]

Which not saying much considering the waste potential of the other characters and this same guy destroy his own family and ruin galaxy just for a dumbest reason I did used to like kylo at one point but seeing the lore about him it his character writing all over place makes him a idiot.

[@The_Malcontented]

@9:53 TLJ broke his spirit like it broke the spirits of millions of fans (a great disturbance in the force as if millions of fans cried-out in rage and dismay)

[@The_Malcontented]

On the subject of the difference in physicality between Kylo and Rey/Finn, regardless of Liam's (definitely plausible) theory about the force (no pun intended dammit) of a crossguard lightsaber being greater due to its greater energy, we shouldn't forget about the physicality as well, because it's' a big discrepancy: Adam Driver is 6'3", whereas John Boyega is 5'9" and Daisy Ridley is 5'7". Now Kylo is a blood knight, Finn just deserted from being in the military like a day before this, and Rey has spent her whole life as a scavenger who only ever had food, water, and shelter when she clawed it by tooth and nail, so they'd all likely be in good physical shape. Rey and Kylo are both force-sensitive, BUT Finn is not (even though the marketable campaign HEEEEEAVILY implied that he was going to become a Jedi and never paid that off. A+ storytelling work there Disney.) So even if we discount the force sensitivity and look at just Kylo vs. Finn as combatants and assume they're both in roughly as-good of physical shape: hey Liam, if you were 5'9" doing HEMA and your opponent was 6'3", how would you feel going into that fight? Lol

[@mrhouse2208]

Fandome Star Wars videos are criminally underrated

[@GraveKing3473]

Kylo's saber has always been my favorite part of the sequel series, as I have always loved the idea of a great sword style saber, and very much agree, Vader with a great sword saber would be one of the most terrifying combatants in Star wars.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Graveking! Yeah I remember the buzz when the trailer dropped, it was all anyone talked about in my friendship circles. Its a shame we'll never get to Vader with one would have been nightmare fuel. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@jackfoxx6351]

Oh 100% feel the same the way. The sound crackles was so good. I also noticed how kylo was very obsessed with obtaining the other saber. And yeah it's his grandfather's but it was also a stable saber.

[@LordBloodraven]

Another reason why he wears the helmet: it hides all the missing teeth the Mountain knocked out.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I thought they helmet kept his head in shape 👀😂 - Thom

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

I vaguely remember something about how crossguards were used for war and when long term peace came to the galaxy, Jedi no longer needed elements specifically for war. So they stopped using them.

[@Lunacorva]

The whole thing with the crossguard ISN'T that a crossguard wouldn't be a fantastic idea. It's that the crossguard is ALSO made of lightsabers. That's like making a crossguard out of two daggers. It rather defeats the point. If it was a crossguard made of forcefields, that would be a brilliant design.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Hey Luna! Yeah I remember when it dropped the HEMA channels tore it a new one for how dangerous the quillons are to the user let alone the opponent lol. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@karimwalters7316]

Can we also see the why anakins change to the dark side isn’t quick using all reference points in the prequels as well as clone wars like Ahsoka leaving the order and obi wan’s fake assassination to show the change that people don’t see

[@TheFandomeClips]

I totally think it’s quick and ridiculous though 👀😂 Especially off the films alone its almost laughable… -Thom

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think it is though Karim, we'll have a look next time we do a star wars video lol! Liam

[@karimwalters7316]

@@TheFandomeClips not if you watch clone wars using all reference points to show the change into Vader then it makes perfect sense padme death is just the straw that broke the camel back Ahsoka leaving the order was the biggest catalyst towards his change leaving him on the fence by time revenge of the sith started then not making him a master so he can look in the restricted section in the archives so he can learn the secret to immortality he’s firmly in palpatine’s pocket then you have the ultimatum with windu and sidious and anakin just says fuck it and at that point who would blame him for his decision

[@TheFandomeClips]

Issue is. When watching the films, they work together on their own. The Clone Wars TV show is one massive retcon trying to cram a bunch of plots in between 2 + 3 that don't work. They mention the loss of Anakins mother, his arm, some other stuff... but no Tano or anything else... because it didnt exist... Thats why they constant forcing of Ahsoka into plotpoints is problematic.... I'm definetly going to tackle this subject though... :D - Thom

[@karimwalters7316]

@@TheFandomeClips the way I see it is we have no where near enough context about anakins life from the movies you might get to see a month in total over a almost quarter century of his life from the movies so to show every factor that would lead to his turn to the dark side there wouldn’t be enough time to show it in the trilogy the mortis arc alone could be a movie that’s why we needed a show to show the day to day of his life in a coherent way that makes sense that’s why they put all the important plot points in clone wars to show the change because George Lucas knew that it would be problematic as you said but the clone wars was referenced in a new hope which shows the idea isn’t new so it’s not a retcon

[@oolooo]

Basically , it is the Crossguard is the peak of the Sword design and aesthetic , so a Crossguard Lightsaber was the logical next step

[@warlordofbritannia]

I would argue Jedi *should* go after the hilt as a nonlethal method of disarming your opponent…it’s also less traumatic than literally disarming your opponent. Old Ben Kenobi leaving that poor butt faced alien short an arm was a bit much, he could have simply mind-suggested him and the guy with a death sentence in 12 systems.

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂😂 but now everyone knows not to fk with old ben 👀😂 -Thom

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@TheFandomeClips “12 systems? That’s cute…I think committed that many war crimes by the third month of the Clone Wars.”

[@shifterverse]

​@@warlordofbritannia😂

[@TheFandomeClips]

Im a wanted man by the EMPIRE... - Thom

[@widgren87]

I honestly think that had things been slightly different that Qui-gon could have made great use of a cross guard saber given his stature and use of Ataru. Or the only good thing that came from the Ahsoka series being Ray Stevenson's Baylan and his great saber, a cross guard on that and some Montante style movement?

[@Last-voice-on-October-21st]

I’m still waiting on my lightsaber polearms, but ah well

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂 oh they exist mate! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@warlordofbritannia]

So lightsabers don’t have mass but they do have weight? That’s…weird but makes sense in a “space wizard did it” type of way. I guess the law of conservation of mass/energy is the Force’s bissch.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Yeah Warlord the lore has always backed and forth on how heavy lightsabers are supposed to be but I've always just gone with what I see, they clearly generate momentum so they've got to produce some kind of force that resembles mass when swung. Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@warlordofbritannia]

⁠@@TheFandomeClips I never noticed it before tbh. But now it makes sense as to why the fights in the OT and prequels are so different: George changed his mind on this, as he did with so many other things 😂 Personally I prefer the OT style, I like the extra feeling of oomph as well as the more intimate, slower-paced duels. When every fight is flashy and fast paced…none of them are.

[@TheFandomeClips]

What do you think of the sequel trilogy stuff Warlord? I honestly think its not to bad as is more to my liking and actually feels closer to the OT than the PT... - Thom

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@TheFandomeClips I liked the fight in TFA, but the rest of them I could forget about it

[@KingNerdpickleEsquire]

Hey there, could you do some stuff about the mandalorians? Maybe about beskar or the crusaders from legends, I think it would be really cool

[@lawsonkenny2964]

Would discussing the best soldier fielded by the Separatists, Republic, Rebels and Empire be a video that could get attention?

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think Eckarts ladder has a video similar to that Lawson. We try not to step on other channels toes unless we think we can bring something unique or new to the discussion! But thanks for the suggestion. Its definitely something we'll keep in mind! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@professorsassafras]

How would boromir and Ned stark fair in a duel or in a competition?

[@AK-tr6lo]

I actually think a cross guard wouldn’t be ridiculous for form II if it is possible to get the laser quillions without significantly increasing the apparent weight of the blade I could see them being a potentially useful tool for a form II user especially if they are angled up more (like you can do in Jedi Survivor). Also maybe it would be good for a form II user who has hybridized their style with form III or V. Another potential benefit of the heavier blade: it might make fighting someone using a Beskar weapon easier. Iirc one of the issues Jedi have with fighting Mandalorians is they aren’t used to countering a melee weapon with much weight/momentum. It is possible that a lightsaber with more weight of its own could help offset that issue.

[@OurHiltsHurt]

I didnt know ASOIAF had laser swords

[@TheFandomeClips]

Need to brush up on your ASOIAF lore Hilts. Your showing yourself to be a real noob to the ASOIAF series with this comment. Next you'll be saying you've never heard of Ser Luke of house Skwalker, Lord paramount of tattooine. Bloody amateur hour.

[@professorsassafras]

Who could crush general grevious? *New who could kill the mountain replacement*

[@jauneork278]

LEt's Be honest. Soressu is also great for the crossguard.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think it would give a stronger initial defence but Soresu is also about conserving energy and outlasting your opponent with small, tight and efficient movements, which would be a lot harder to pull off with a much heavier blade. But still a much better use than the canon lore 😂😂 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@Cyanduck485]

Top 10 game of thrones characters that would fight best as a jedi

[@TheFandomeClips]

Oberyn and Arthur Dayne would definitely need to make that list 😂 thanks for watching as always! Liam

[@Cyanduck485]

@@TheFandomeClips thanks

[@jeremy1860]

And here was me thinking they just used it because it looked cool 😅

[@TheFandomeClips]

Doesn't matter how small a detail is in the star wars universe, there's a lore explanation for it Jeremy my friend. You know that droid that blows up in a new hope with a bad motivator? That droid has a deep and intricate backstory as to why it blew its motivator 😂 Seriously! Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@jeremy1860]

@@TheFandomeClips Wait, really? They could've just said the droid was really old and I'd have bought it 😅

[@haydenhodgson8716]

Another great video guys. Could easily listen to you talk about anything. Please keep these up !. Would you guys ever do a video on the last of us?? If you are interested in that you guys would nail it.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks as always Hayden! I'm not versed in the last of us but Thom is a big fan! I'll pass this on to him see if there's any TLOU topics he can squeeze a script from! Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@damonandrews6592]

Definitely Vader or Darth malak would be cool to see with this

[@TheFandomeClips]

Malak is a great pick, dude is built like a truck 🚚 I also think Malgus would be nightmare fuel with one. Thanks for watching Damon! Liam

[@KingNerdpickleEsquire]

Dont forget Tulak Hord or Darth Marr

[@kylecharles4333]

When it comes to cutting off a limb instead of going for the saber I could see as wanting to collect it after killing a jedi like a certain coughing robot, love that you pointed out the downgrade to the light saber fights in the Disney movies as they bug the hell out of me with a lot of aiming for the blade not the person and unguarded spins, the original trilogy felt more intentional with it's movements like a stalking lion about to pounce and the prequels a display of what superhumans with a spider sense like the force can achieve at their best and I agree Vader is the perfect person to use a cross guard being more methodical plus being half robotic able to deal with any scratches it could do if he thinks it will win the fight, cool video as always though guys keep it up.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Kyle sorry for the late reply! Me and Thom are constantly moving on to the next vid at the moment so we only actively hang in the comments for the first 24-48 hours or so currently so if we miss a comment don't think we're been rude to our regular's buddy! We still appreciate the crap out of regular watchers like yourself! Honestly pal I can't stand the sequel fights. The prequels are very nonsensical but at least they are very visually appealing and you can sort of justify it with the jedis foresight and so on. For me the best will always be the OT though, apart from ANH, both the Luke and Vader fights actually look like two opponents trying to brutally kill each other. Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@kylecharles4333]

@@TheFandomeClips No worries I understand and the fact you reply to comments at all puts you a cut above a lot of other youtubers in my opinion and I agree that the tech really held ANH back when it came to lightsaber "fighting"

[@flavius5722]

Do anybody agreed that the only future of Star Wars is in animation Because actors had become to controversial and they are not train in using a sword or other stuff Opinions please

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think the animation stuff is where its at its strongest. The prequels set an amazingly high bar for how peak Jedi and Sith should look when fighting but that level of finesse is only achievable with months of planning and training on the part of the actors and stunt guys. Thanks for watching as always Flavius! Liam

[@professorsassafras]

Question... Why the flip did tywin choose to not. Promise to agree to robs terms in exchange for rob fighting stannis for him? Either way tywin wins. If rob wins hell be weaker and easier to invade and stannis will be gone. If Rob loses then tywin can deny qll knowledge of the deal and fight a stannis whos some what weakened. Either way an enemy is chopped off the board with himself having to do nothing.

[@professorsassafras]

I think Rob Starks real mistake was declaring himself king in the north. Originally he just wanted revenge and his sisters back but declaring yourself as king alienates players like stannis and others and makes alliances difficult. Also what if Tywin just let rob stark has his kingdom in exchange for fighting stannis for him? (Missed opportunity) My point is the north needs the rest of westeros and could rob feasibly even run a kingdom in the north? How do we know it wouldn't flop? Excellent battle commanding does not equal excellent ruling.

[@LordGingivitus66]

I think lightsabers were originally meant to be Jedi exclusive weapons but when people saw Kenobi (a Jedi master) and Vader (a fallen Jedi) clash in the first movie they thought it was the tightest shit ever and seeing Luke's fights after sealed it. With that said I think the crossguard design is no more or less stupid than primarily using a melee weapon in a setting in which firearms and directed energy weapons exist.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Agreed My lord. Doesnt matter how you spin it, gun often beats sword in MOST situations 😂 i feel like the jedi and sith use them to give everyone else a chance. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@kingofspaids1]

can we get a light-saber forms video

[@TheFandomeClips]

I've added it to my list of non thrones scripts buddy! Keep an eye out for it in future! We just need to figure out how to bring something new to the topic that hasn't been covered by other youtubers! Thanks for watching and the suggestion! Liam

[@The_Malcontented]

Idea for a LOTR/ASOIAF crossover video: is GRRM right and could (pre-mutilation) Jaime beat Aragorn in a duel?

[@flavius5722]

A episode about Yu zang vong will be cool

[@TheFandomeClips]

Noted Flavius! We'll give that a pop when we go outside of thrones in future!

[@flavius5722]

@@TheFandomeClips One more idea ,what are in your opinion the best 5 flags and the worst în westeros ?

[@professorsassafras]

Uhhh the cross guards can dice your hands to pieces. Having plasma blade as your cross guards can cut your own fingers off

[@TheFandomeClips]

Very much so, a lot of HEMA channels point out its more of a risk to you than it is your enemy if approached form a realistic standpoint. Thankfully Star Wars is anything but realistic. Thanks for watching as always Proffessor! Liam

[@aistikasmursu9432]

i think ataru could also make good use of the cross guard blade's increased momentum and kinetic energy

[@TheFandomeClips]

Definitely on the momentum front, not sure the heavier blade would be good for conserving energy though, Ataru is already very physically demanding I wouldn't fancy having to pull off those moves with an even heavier blade. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@warlordofbritannia]

Is this a contentious topic, for I would have thought it obvious. Why do regular swords have crossguards? Interesting little meta history on lightsaber crossguards either way.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Why do they? 👀😂

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@TheFandomeClips Top 10 Questions Space Scientists Can’t Answer, Number 7 Will Drive You Crazy!

[@TommyCurrell]

It's contentious because that hilt wouldn't guard against lightsabres.

[@conorbryan7806]

Great video as always

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Connor! We know the vid will likely bomb but got to have some fun now and then and geek out on things just because 😂 Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@roangrahm1529]

I'd say be I sith or Jedi I'd go for the crossguard lightsaber style myself.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Something tells me beskar crossguard is better. In case your light saber is disabled, you still can use it as a pick axe.

[@jaieregilmore971]

Wow Cal use the crossguard better than Kylo adding force technique to it too bad you don’t turn off the long blade leave those small blades on like the fan film about Kylo.

[@jasonhosea9331]

Didnt suit vader switch to form 3 in his novel to control his opponent to protect his suit

[@TheRabbitHole-r2b]

Could Palpateine win the game of thrones?

[@TheFandomeClips]

Actually thinking of doing a crossover video like this! Thanks for watching! Love the name BTW! Liam

[@jamesalexander8193]

I can give the fights a good bit of leeway as if you think about it training wise things have gone down hill with how the story shows it. Old Republic lots of fighting of jedi and sith so the training and experience was at its best and that is why those trailers for the games are so good. Clone wars was just delecting blasters and form training without sword on sword fights because their were so sith but their was droids. But they still trained by masters but every few fought other lightsabers their was less than 10 lightsaber users for cis or sith. Empire time old masters who survived the clone wars but are old and focus more on timing and landing a single blow as they can't endure a long fight. Or they are young untrained like luke and are pretty bad and loose a hand. First order time their are no masters and everyone is just making it up as they go along and learning what works as it works.

[@karimwalters7316]

Will we get the how the Jedi are idiotic and incompetent video and how they could have beaten palpatine if they were intelligent using the prequels and clone wars as reference points

[@hubertwaliszewski5740]

I see Bary Sueratheon, I mean Robert Baratheon isn't the only thing we will disagree on in your videos. I actually think the sequels overall are better movies than the prequels, although the prequel ERA is in my opinion better, as it includes TCW. (Side Note. When I say the Sequels are better I am saying that TFA and RoTS are good, the Last Jedi is like a 5/10, TPM and AoTC are bad and the rise of shitwalker is the worst star wars movie.). Other than that Great Video.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I'm more dogging on the choreography of the lightsaber duels Hubert good buddy! I don't hate the sequels like some fans (well I hate TLJ, and I hate what it did to Luke hes my favourite character in all of fiction let alone star wars) but I do find TFA and TROS to be in the "Something good that could have been great" category. I also feel the characters apart from Kylo were all squandered by the end of it. Finn in particular was bloody amazing in TFA and then he and Poe kind of got thrown off the cliff in my opinion. Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@sinusspass1998]

Easy explanation: Because writers at Disney thought it looks fancy.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I mean thats what we did say initially lol. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@TheFandomeClips]

*Badass - Thom

[@SquishyOfCinder]

That's not how you pronounce epitome. It's Epit-o-me not Epit-ome

[@TheFandomeClips]

Don't I know it 😂 one mispronounciation will follow me across my entire life as a you tuber. Thom (the channels editor) has that clip in a folder labeled "Splice in where ever Liam says it correctly" 😂 thanks for watching! Liam

[@Fenris77]

A crossguard lightsabre is complete nonsense and will only serve his vanity. If you need any crossguard like that on your lightsabre you should not be playing with such a weapon in the first place. But then again Disney has not come up with any intellectual explanations at all!

[@Callum620]

Star Wars isn't your forte...views are dwindling on that one. Well, time to make the 18th "Who can defeat the Mountain?" I guess. 😄😄😄

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂 no more Mountain vids for a while. We honestly don't mind the dwindling veiws on non thrones stuff, we're already fully aware its not the quality of the content, our analytics have us pegged as a thrones channel and our subscriber base been hard-core GOT/ASOIAF fans in their viewing habits has only further reinforced that algorithm which means the YT overlords don't push anything non thrones that we put out which is what you need for a video to grow unfortunately. You can make the best video ever but if YT doesn't want to serve it to people it falls into the void 😂 Eventually SW and LOTR stuff will go on their own channels when there's enough content for each franchise and we'll start from scratch Thanks for tuning Callum! Liam

[@Alex-bz8lj]

My god the sequels had garbage fight choreography

[@TheFandomeClips]

Not half Alex. People can hate on the prequels been unrealistic but man they are amazingly well put together sequences. Thanks for watching as always! Liam