Who Was The Greatest Lightsaber Duelist in the Prequel Era | Star Wars

[@pacocheung1864]

"Count I'm so badass I need Christopher Lee to play me Dooku" *Signature look of superiority moment*

[@TheFandomeClips]

😂😂😂

[@johnkirk6203]

Leveling all dualists' force abilities implies that Grievous would gain access to the force, which is truly a scary prospect.

[@TheFandomeClips]

We thought about Grievous (and he would have scored dam high) but then we realised it depends on who your flattening the curve to. If you equalised it to Kenobis level, then yeah Grevious would probably take #2 maybe even #1. But if you equalised it to Yoda or Sidious's level he'd be flattened even more than he was by Mace and Kenobi. Thats the problem with Grevious, he has no connection to the force whatsoever and is rather unique in that sense. Thanks for watching John! Liam

[@miken5448]

Dooku's duels from the prequel movies are really good. His duels from Clone Wars are fucking amazing and really show how elegant and refined his saber skills are.

[@TheFandomeClips]

He's definitely one of the most under appreciated characters from the prequels I feel. I'm glad the EU gave him more exposure and characterisation. Thanks for watching Miken! Liam

[@YaboiZephyr]

As a trained fencer I always appreciate dookus measured ruthlessness and his percise footwork. Truly he is my favorite force user in all of star wars by a significant margin.

[@john-paulsilke893]

He was a master of sabre and of stage swordsmanship, (which is fact but dramatic and exciting). As you well know a “real” swordsman is about as exciting as watching fish in a barrel get shot when facing a novice so he dramatized his real skills making for a slow but genuinely effective technique. His moves were measured and potentially effective even against a real opponent coming in at full speed. Obviously if you went to wrestling you’d bully him and he’d have to speed up, but if you went in with a swift point he’d slap it away and give you his to deal with. (Ironic he was so on point because he didn’t fight foil to my knowledge only sabre, but I assume he must has at least been skilled at small sword and foil techniques. (I absolutely love small sword, but it’s not exciting to watch because every match lasts about 3 seconds. 😂

[@YaboiZephyr]

@john-paulsilke893 agreed, but you also have to take into account that these are space wizards with freakish physical abilities. To me, duku's dramatic fighting style speaks more to a combination of Sabre and hyper aggressive epee (obviously dramatized cause it's a movie)

[@TheFandomeClips]

He was extremely under utilised in the films in my opinion. The perfect moustache twirling villain. I'm glad the EU gave him the props he deserved! Thanks for watching Yaiboi! Liam

[@YaboiZephyr]

@TheFandomeClips agreed and thank you

[@SicFromTheKush]

I hate when people preface "as a..." you're not an accredited expert here, you have no job here, you have no skin color here, it's the Internet, you're a KZbin commenter like everyone else

[@unreal306]

Sir Christopher Lee as Tywin would’ve been epic

[@TheFandomeClips]

Christopher Lee as any character is epic 😂 Thanks for watching as always Unreal! Liam

[@YaboiZephyr]

Petition for the "mace windu is anakins biological son" video to be made

[@TheFandomeClips]

I mean it, I'll do it! Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@ktownghost4026]

@@TheFandomeClips drop it!

[@danieltoft2116]

@@YaboiZephyr in this age of star wars it's possible

[@commanderpoes8195]

This is one of the lists I can input the most on because I'm an absolute Star Wars nerd, and I honestly agree with your placements. Yoda and Sidious were good, but often relied more on power in the force rather than their own lightsaber skills for their own reasons. Anakin was one of the best in his time, but he relied heavily on his natural talent and physique rather than trained skill. As for Obi Wan his form was too defensive and was often left open if someone did managed to pierce through it. Windu was one of the greatest duelists, probably ever, but even he had his shortcomings as even use of Vapaad still had side effects to that of the more traditional Juyo due to the dark side influence. Dooku being a purist with Makashi puts him in a tier of his own as the form was designed specifically for blade to blade combat, giving him an edge in lightsaber duels that many people don't have, while also training it to the point where the normal downsides of the form simply don't matter due to his given skill. A few honorable mentions that I feel should be pointed out, but don't necessarily make the cut, would be Maul and Qui Gon. Maul was good but often relied more on the ferocity and savagery of Juyo over his own skill. Qui Gon as Dooku's student was able to keep up with him in his youth, but due to the fact that he chose to specialize in Ataru rather than Makashi like his master, Qui Gon's abilities started to decline as he aged, which is what led to his death at Maul's hands.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Maul would have been an easy 6 I think and Qui Gon, definitely in the top 10 along with Grevious! Thanks for watching Commander! Liam

[@adamcahoon6362]

How this for Vid Idea: How could the Jedi Order have Won? Winning Conditions: Keeping Anakin a Jedi (with the caveat that he still falls in love/has kids with padme) and detect and defeat Sidious ensuring the Jedi Order's survival and influence in the near future

[@TheFandomeClips]

We've had this request a few times Adam, it's on our list! Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@bluewardog]

something to consider about Anakin was that in both Legends and cannon Sidious out right says that he had the potential to be even greater to the point that he could of become stronger then even himself and master Yoda. Hes only 23 during revenge of the sith and wasn't anywhere near his potential prime if it wasn't for his arrogance getting the better of him during his duel with Obi-wan

[@The-Black-Death]

Great now I gotta wait 20 mins before I head to bed now just to watch this one lol.

[@angeredgnome]

sweet dreams

[@TheFandomeClips]

Haha sorry my friend! We'll drop it earlier next time! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@The-Black-Death]

@@TheFandomeClips Please don't, you guys still release fire content regardless.

[@bohmfalk]

Obi-Wan is the best duelist. As said in the video, he’s an absolute invincible wall. His specialty is his endurance and ability to keep from making mistakes. He will maintain his defense until the moment his opponent makes a mistake and that’s when he’ll move in for the kill. His only weakness is due to his force ability being less than those on the list. His attunement with the force is such that it’s able to make up the difference with other force users to be a top force user, his lightsaber skill is top notch.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Easily one of the best thats for sure. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@flavius5722]

Dooku really deserve this Ser Christopher Lee would've been a excelent Twin Lannister

[@warlordofbritannia]

1001 percent

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think there's anyone more badass in real life than Mr Lee was. Truly a great man who is missed. Thanks for watching as always Flavius! Liam

[@sinayezulu9928]

Why this channel doesn't have a million subscribers is beyond me. Great content as always Liam and Tom.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Sinayezulu! Appreciate the kind words. We'll get there...........................someday 😂

[@11bluekitkats]

Glad to see Dooku getting the recognition he deserves! Great list no doubt was glad to see Obi-Wan get his props as well. So many channels treat him like he’s fodder. I think Dooku is underrated by many overall. I think he’s more powerful in the force than he often gets credit for, he’s possibly the best duelist of his era and while he is old he’s by no means slow or weak. Also good to see you guys calling it like it is with Sidious. Guy is pretty overrated when it comes to dueling. Great video as always my friends!

[@TheFandomeClips]

We agree SWdanger. He lost to Mace fair and square and Yoda put him on his backfoot. Without the force advantage I think there's many who could take him on. Even Plo and Shak Ti would definitely give him a run for his money. Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam

[@kylecharles4333]

Love that you kept the force out of this match up (aside from the basic boost to help aged fighters feel like they are in their prime) so often it seems this is done but then cops out with force powers As for the list I'm pretty happy with the order and glad you point out the flaws in the big two since I feel when someone hears yoda has mastered all forms they think he has nothing left to learn rather than understanding the technique enough that he could teach someone else and could still improve I like how Obi and Anakin are in the middle too since they are really good but a tool for a specific job Obi being a brick wall that can probably survive against anyone at his best but doesn't mean can always kill his opponent, while Anakin is a reckless glass cannon that keeps up an aggressive assault good at pushing his way through any openings which often puts him in harm way if he doesn't break through The Darth Maul tease was nice but we all knew Dooku had to take this one being the one that dedicated his life to saber combat, something tells me this video will get a sequel in another era (totally used mind powers) so I'll look forward to that

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Kyle. Yeah "Whose most powerful?" is just beating a dead horse at this point, you know it's either Sidious or Yoda at 1 depending on the sources you use. Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@professorsassafras]

Anakin was heavily relaint on the force. Equalize his force abilities and he would not be that powerful. It was his reliance on the dark side that gave Anakin that extra push and power to kill count dooku

[@ct-117]

I really appreciate the Dooku respect. Man's a legend. Also, I feel like Maul and Grievous both beat out Palpatine in terms of sheer skill. They both employ more unorthodox techniques that are uniquely difficult to counter, with Maul's double blade and Grievous's four blades, both possess blinding natural speed even without the force and unyielding savagery, and you've also got Grievous's raw strength to consider. Granted, Sidious beat Maul in the Clone Wars, but it's worth noting that Maul was able to press him enough to get him to stop playing around despite the gap in force abilities. And I know this wasn't the thrust of the video, but I would say that in terms of straight hand-to-hand fighting ability, Maul is likely number one due to his unique mix of strength, agility, and savagery. Great video though, as always

[@Zepravity]

definitely disagree on maul but it's nice to see grievous get respect for once. if the force wasn't a factor i genuinely believe he'd beat windu or dooku

[@seldomsane5278]

Tend to agree. Maul forced big papa Palps into using the power of the force near the end of that duel. Maul had stamina for days.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Maul was easy 6 if this were a top 10. Grevious was a funny one for us, because we didn't clarify who we were scaling to, he's either number 1 if you scaled everyone to Kenobi's strength in the force or at the absolute bottom of the list if you scaled everyone to Sidious and Yoda 🤣 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@ct-117]

@@Zepravity I know I'm a little biased in Maul's favour since he's one of my favorite characters, but if we're taking legends into account, there's the novel Maul: Lockdown, where he beats a Yuzhan Vong warrior and a Wampa each in one on one combat with his bare hands without using the force

[@kiwwat4139]

Thank you for the shoutout for my favourite, Plo Koon. The man was a beast in Legends. And pretty much one of the best Jedi of his time: Compassionate, calm, protective and wise.

[@andrewvancura2901]

I think pre 2nd injury general grievous should be an honorable mention simply because he doesn’t have the abilty to use the force and is able to take on multiple skilled Jedi on his own it’s incredibly impressive not enough to be ahead of those on the list but being able to duel guys like Obi Wan and more and come out alive is impressive

[@TheFandomeClips]

He defintiely should have been an honourable mention. Issue we had with him on the list is we didn't clarify who we were scaling to. Scale everyone to kenobi, he'd be #1. Scale everyone to Yoda and Sidious, he'd be at the absolute bottom of the pile since he can't touch the force at all. Thanks for watching Andrew! Liam

[@andrewvancura2901]

@@TheFandomeClips the fandom responds 🥹

[@riddick729]

FINALLY, someone who gets it. I see so many of these duelists videos that still keep Dooku at the bottom. You have everyone fight at their prime and skill only Dooku will hold a lightsaber clinic.

[@TheFandomeClips]

No doubt, personally I think there's at least an argument for GOAT status for Dooku when considering raw skill. Thanks for watching Riddick! Liam

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

I think another thing that needs to mentioned with Dooku is the fact the guy could in theory actually beat Mace in a fight (Like you said in your video on who could stop Maces form), Maces form is very powerful but only if it has the darkside to fuel it Dooku doesn't tap in the darkside much so even with the force Dooku could win in fact it would actually be worse for Mace.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Very true Josh. Mace is one of those few star wars duellists where you can have that rock paper scissors dynamic because of Vapaad. Everyone else its pretty much "This guys wins because force" Thanks for watching Josh! Liam

[@jeremy1860]

I'm glad you included footage from the 2003 Clone Wars show. I loved the prequel fights, but when it came to pure, distilled badassery, nothing compared to what Genndy Tartakovsky brought to the franchise 😊

[@TheFandomeClips]

One of the finest pieces of animation in history Jeremy my friend and the thing that made Grevious Jedi nightmare fuel! Thanks for watching as always mate (Join our discord you know you want to) Liam

[@seldomsane5278]

Mate, you have opened a can of worms here, fair play. Personally I have Anakin at 6 or 7. He was a highlight of the CW series. Cheers.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Really? who would you have above him? Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@seldomsane5278]

@@TheFandomeClips as a pure duelist. Plo, Kit or Shaak Ti could easily compete with Anakin. Fisto alone toyed with Grievous, who Obi-Wan had trouble with, who himself beat Anakin. Tbh, that group of 4 are hard to place.

[@D2attemp]

When Obi-wan & Anakin duelled Dooku in The Clone Wars series, you’ll notice he forced Anakin into the defensive and made Obi-wan have to go on the offensive. Making both fight in ways that they weren’t use to.

[@TheFandomeClips]

He is the man when it comes to duelling. Been played by Christopher Lee merely pushes his badassery over the edge. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@warlordofbritannia]

Something that often shows up, whether by design or coincidence, is Obi Wan as a tactical duelist. He isn’t just talented with the blade but he’s able to use his head at the same time as dealing with potential immediate death. I know you’re keeping it to Legends, but my favorite example of this comes from his final clash with Maul in Rebels(?)-he switches from a Soresu stance to an Ataru grip in order to draw Maul into a vulnerable position. The novelization of RotS also underlines this almost unique ability when he faces Grievous. If that’s not all enough, he’s not only fully capable of stonewalling his opponents but he’s also an absolute glutton for punishment. He’s like a friendly, quipping Terminator.

[@CCEkeke]

Obi-Wan is considered THE master of Soresu, not just a master of Soresu.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Pretty much 😂 I mean just keeping up with Anakin was enough to secure him his spot. I always liked in Legends how he was a weak force user but so intelligent and cunning that he could make fools of the top tier. Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@finlayames6216]

Couple additions 1. Not only did Mace not anyone else to fight his fallen apprentice because of her knowledge of Vapad, he also retreated from Grevious not because he was losing (it was pretty much a stale mate) because he realised he was teaching the general the move set (though obviously not the mindset/force loop) of Vapad and was so worried about making Grevious even more dangerous that he’d be basically unstoppable. 2. Dooku at least had studied all the forms, possibly even to the point of mastering them. He just didn’t employ them in his own fights, instead focusing exclusively on form 2 (with his own little sequences and techniques, which is encouraged by the form). He taught Grevious all 7 forms and was able to quickly identify the forms used by his opponents so he knew how to counter them.

[@joshgowing5427]

Generally speaking i agree with the list and its a great video! Surprised Greivous, vader, plo and maul didn't get mentions but a great list and video

[@TheFandomeClips]

Vader is OT and he'll get his props when we do an inevitable follow-up. Plo and Maul would have definitely made 6-7 if it were a top 10! Thanks for watching Josh! Liam

[@joshgowing5427]

@TheFandomeClips ohh that makes a lot of sense as I was very surprised with vader. Some great videos, and I love the content! GOT and Starwars!

[@Dominus564]

I would say (barring all force abilities) 1st: Yoda 2nd: Dooku/Mace Windu 3rd: Anakin Skywalker/ Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS) 4th: Darth Sidious 5th Plo Kuun

[@genemaxwell4]

Great list! I think i agree on all Counts!

[@TheFandomeClips]

Why thanks Maxwell and thanks for watching! (Also nice job on the Count pun lol) Liam

[@robinburt5735]

It's a shame this video wasn't just most skilled lightsaber duelists in general. Exar Kun for example was a very feared and is an easy 9.5. I could go on about numerous peeps from thousands of years ago but no-one really wants that i guess.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Those are seperate eras we can mil............. I mean cover. Thanks for watching Robin! Liam

[@nikolaiblndal1247]

This is honestly the best and most sensible lightsaber duelist ranking I’ve ever seen. First of all, I appreciate that you neutralised the major trump card: The Force. Too many times I feel like people don’t always get the difference between the skill and power aspect of lightsaber duels. Secondly, nice way of differentiating with Yoda and the other top 3 regarding how personalised styles help hide their weaknesses while strengthening their unique traits. Yoda’s most obvious handicap (apart from his age) is his size, hence the Ataru. But I never fully considered that he never went beyond simply mastering the traditional variants and then being content. Thirdly, you chose wisely with the number one:D Btw, I feel Legends Grievous is worthy of consideration to be put above Maul when it comes to pure skill. Maybe Grievous at #7 and Maul at #8. The Zaabrak is a highly ferocious opponent of course, but when Dooku himself chooses to withhold information when sparring with Grievous I feel like it speaks to the cyborg’s prowess. He could even calculate and mimic his own Vaapad counter when duelling Windu (albeit a shrewd version of it)

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Nicolai, this comment made my day! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@randomstuff6355]

How about a video to showcase the worst commanders in Star Wars? Id reckon that in the grand scheme of things, Tarkin would be pretty high up whether its Legends or Canon. Though i suppose thats partially my personal bias speaking, as in Star Wars DnD-Campaigns i do with some friends of mine, it sort of became a running joke of me introducing random imperial officer-Npcs who refer to him as "that moron Tarkin".

[@TheFandomeClips]

We can certainly look into it. If i recall Thrawn thought Tarkin was an idiot because he cared more about bug shiny terror weapons than an actual efficient fleet and military, and Thrawn is definitely someone to trust on all things commandery. Thanks for watching Randomstuff! Liam

[@Baphomane]

Yoda on 4 is insane but great video as always bro. :)

[@blitzkrieg2928]

14:15 I love how he tried his best to not fight Legends General Grievous in a saber fight, because Grievous would instantly start learning Vaapad ( something he started to do in Labyrinth of Evil briefly ).

[@blitzkrieg2928]

Glad to see the Star Wars content🤩

[@Stormy_Boi]

One of my favorite duels in the clone wars was between anakin and dooku on naboo cause Anakin just grabs his throat and starts choking him

[@jacklu1611]

Dooku the footwork GOAT!!!

[@conorbryan7806]

It is obviously ki adi mundi the greatest prequel character jk great video as always keep up the amazing work

[@TheFandomeClips]

Haha Ki Adi so OP he can spontaneously change his age 😂 thanks for watching as always Conor mate! Liam

[@fernandoruizperales1061]

Can you do a version but with the strongest force users? Preferably in legends, because disney canon is not as interesting.

[@Derekivery]

In Disney Canon the answer is Rey, she can LITERALLY pull stuff out of her ass.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I've noted this. Keep an eye out for our next non thrones vid! Thanks for watching mate! Liam

[@neodigremo]

So far I have no disagreements with the list. All well reasoned and presented. But just to hype Master Kenobi a bit more He was always called THE master of Soresu. The. Yoda probably could edge him out in other forms (though he was no doubt competent) but in a pure Soresu match he was even better. I would also add just as small extension on Yoda as well. Yoda was 2 foot tall and still was considered a master of then all. Imagine his skill if he had the physique of a Mace or young Anakin.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Yoda with any more advantages would be a complete menace. I remember in one of the Legends Novels Dooku musing that if Yoda turned to the darkside, even Sidious would get swept aside like a bug. Thanks for watching Neo! Liam

[@thecount5558]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it would be completely accurate to say Dooku never mastered the other lightsabre forms. I mean, Grievous, an excellent duellist in his own right, knew and used all seven lightsaber forms and Dooku was his teacher... you would have to be quite proficient with a lightsabre form to be able to teach someone to be that effective and deadly in using them.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I think Dooku would have had a brilliant academic knowledge of the other forms (You'd have to so you could figure out their weaknesses) enough that he could teach them, but I don't think he ever trained himself to execute any of them to a high standard. He just picked his form and stamped out its short comings so he didn't need any other forms. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@OurHiltsHurt]

Jedi Master Coleman Trebor is the GOAT

[@TheFandomeClips]

He's too OP for lists like this. I heard it was actually him that empowered Rey to put down Palps in ROS. Thanks for watching as always mate (We must collab soon) Liam

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

Haven't seen the video, but: 1. Dooku 2. Anakin (yes, I know) 3. Windu 4. Yoda 5. Sidious Also, "Canon or Legends?" "Legends" "Ah, so Canon" is based.

[@AaronBaker-g8g]

Brilliant video guys keep up the great work

[@TheFandomeClips]

Why thanks my friend! Liam

[@NK_XK1]

Honestly I'd say it was me

[@PauChiralt]

I feel like Kit Fisto is far more unpredictable than anyone on the list. I still don't think it would be enough to give him a spot tho

[@TheFandomeClips]

Kits like Anakin, criminally underrated. Guy went toe to toe with Grevious and seemed to have the upper hand. Not sure he's top 5 material though. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@finlayames6216]

I think the biggest knock on Fisto in this contest is the fact he basically relies purely on letting himself fall into the force due to his form 1. This means we never technically see him fighting entirely off his own actual skill, so he’s harder to judge compared to say Dooku who is very conscious and purposeful with his moves. That said, he’s clearly extremely dangerous. Don’t think he makes top 5, but probably makes top 10.

[@Capodraste]

You know someone really know Star Wars when they rank Doku at least in the top 3. Well...

[@SilkBuckets]

omg dooku number one i wasnt sure if youd go for it bc anakin cooked him, but i love it

[@TheFandomeClips]

Thanks Silky. Dooku is the GOAT for sword skills, how could we not? Thanks for watching! Liam

[@devineright1]

We all know the best duellist is mae

[@_somerandomguyontheinternet_]

IMO Sidious shouldn’t have made it on the list. He held lightsaber dueling in distain, rarely doing it at all, and yet he’s in the top 5 without the Force advantage? EDIT: Also, I’d bump Yoda down to 5 and Anakin to 4, because Obi-Wan is better when you take out the imbalance of the Force. Obi-Wan is very weak in the Force, by Jedi standards. He had to master Form III to compensate for his lack of natural ability, so him holding his own with a Dark Side-enthralled Anakin in Episode III is a testament to his mastery of Soresu. If you level the playing field with regards to the Force, that lowers Anakin and raises Obi-Wan, so he would pretty handily trump Anakin.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think Anakin was at his best during his duel with Kenobi though. He was emotionally unbalanced and unable to fully use the dark side, but also couldn't keep harmony with the force either which severely weakened him (At least in legends) I think they are both 2 sides of a coin, Obi Wan is a brick wall, Anakin is a glass canon, but they are both equally good at what they do. Sidious may have held duelling in distain, but that didn't mean he wasn't a natural, he mastered all 7 forms with ease according to his master so he was definitely highly skilled regardless of if he enjoyed it or not. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@jameshedrick4490]

In terms of raw skill I agree Count Duku is probably the best. However, bearing in mind that Anakin defeated him in a fair one verses one duel with his own individual style, Anakin will stay my number one both as a duelist and a force sensitive individual overall.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Anakin is criminally underrated by many, especially his legends version. Thanks for watching as always James! Liam

[@SicFromTheKush]

Bruce Lee wasn't telling us which kicker to fear, but which one he would fear

[@TheFandomeClips]

Which is why we made sure to state we were paraphrasing the quote before hand 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif]

Though with this video taking legends into account i feel like Darth Revan or Tulak Horde should've atleast been an honorable mention

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think they were alive during the prequel era 😂 I'm sure we'll do them when we cover the old republic. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif]

@@TheFandomeClips ah i missed the "prequel" but in the title, my fault 😅

[@TheFandomeClips]

@@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif Can't rank OR duellists without at least mentioning Tulak, guys a legend.

[@LostEmpireProduction]

I feel like Maul should be on this list somewhere

[@Tardycripple]

Defo count dooku even Sid and is little green friend where worried about him and his skill. If he was allowed he would have killed ani and obi plenty of times like in clone wars making obi fight on the offence and ani on the defence he was the Arthur Dane of Star Wars.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Pretty much. It would have been cool to have more friction between him and Sidious, where Sidious had the edge in force power but had to be careful around Dooku because of his lightsaber skills. I always hated that about the Prequels, that Yoda and Palpatine were basically untouchable in all aspects. I think it's more fun when circumstances of the day can make or break a fight, regardless of power (a bit like ASOIAF) Thanks for watching as always my friendly neighbourhood Muppet! Liam

[@Tardycripple]

@@TheFandomeClips yea I agree he was the best dualist of his time but treat less than because of Sid’s plans

[@AlexanderRodriguez-dd1eq]

Hope you guys do best swordsman/warrior in lord of rings

[@TheFandomeClips]

We will one day Alexander along with LOTR vs The Mountain! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@bbenson0699]

This is before watching but I’m betting plo koon and dooku are on the list

[@TheFandomeClips]

Half right Benson! 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam

[@chrishart5265]

Would love to see an expanded list of top 10 or even 20. Would be interesting to see where you think the likes of shaak ti, plo koon and kit fisto would rank One thing I think that is worth mentioning with your list is that the specific styles and habbits of the duelist can effect the outcome I think Mace would ultimately loose to dooku because D never relied on the darkside enough for M to be fueled off it. And Ds expirence with the unorthodox would help him counter Ms wild attacks At the same time anakin did beat dooku (he did this as a swordsman imo regardless of darkside amp) whereas mace couldnt, but ani would loose mace handidly because he'd constsntly fuel mace with his agression The same with obi wan. Looses to dooku but can beat ani Its not as simple as rock paper scissors, but I think your specialising in different areas will always come with its own strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes somekne who is generally a better fencer can can loose to someone whos worse if they posses the right skillset. Its not hatd and fast by any means, but it is worth considering.

[@afrayedrope1939]

1. dooku 2. Mace 3. Yoda 4. Sheev 5. Anakin

[@kain772]

Count Dooku

[@TheFandomeClips]

The force is strong with this one!

[@ogBohica]

It’s Dooku he lost on purpose on Palps orders

[@realBatman-89]

Better to say he was caught off guard by Anakin's use of the dark side

[@professorsassafras]

Who's the purest Jedi? My top five are ... 1) a new hope old Ben 2) original trilogy Luke 3) quigon jinn 4)Count dooku (before fall) 5) mace windu 6) prequel Obiwan *Note Anakin is disqualified for savagely slaughtering people twenty years. He's a decent Jedi but not the purest Jedi. Yoda is also disqualified for leading the Jedi for 700 years and then leading it to its fall.*

[@professorsassafras]

Anyone can beat count dooku when every time you swing the lightsaber it's like trying to block a literal cannon ball with a ordinary sword... A lot of Anakin wins are more wow that was a lot of dark side force steroids... And lot less. Wow a clever skill

[@BoneBolt]

Could you if game of thrones characters had lightsaber forms?

[@chuytorres9794]

The greatest still Jaime Lannister hahaha.😂😂 in all seriousness in my opinion I have to advocate for Anakin based on legends and cannon features and the fact that he’s the “chosen one” I do agree with your list though.

[@TheFandomeClips]

I'm glad to see people advocating for Anakin, too many dunk on him as subpar in my opinion when he's clearly not. Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@jamest1242r]

Palpatine has skill because if he didn't Mace would have killed him and Yoda damn sure would have killed him because their force ability was equal during the Revenge of the Sith era

[@TheFandomeClips]

No one said he didn't have skill, the old man is just out of practice and sloppy and extremely reliant on the force for an advantage. Which is why he was defeated in his lightsaber duels with Mace and Yoda. Thanks for watching James! Liam

[@professorsassafras]

Could any member of the Targaryen family tame smaug?

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

The list is only comprised of Mace Windu, Yoda, Sidious, Obi-Wan, Dooku, and Anakin in whatever order. Legends General Grievous would be on the list if Legends was included.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Grievous is in a weird camp. He can't touch the force at all which made placing him somewhere very difficult, especially because we didn't state who we were scaling everyone to. If you scaled everyone to Kenobi's power in the force, Grievous would take #1 handily, but if you scaled everyone to Yoda/Sidious's power in the force, he'd be at the absolute bottom of the pile. Hindsight is 20/20 for us though and in fairness he should have got an honourable mention. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@dakotalange2858]

You didn’t mention Darth Krayt (A'Sharad Hett) and that is disappointing

[@TheFandomeClips]

I don't think he peaked until way way after the prequels though my friend! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@alphaknight4067]

What tier do you think darth vader is? And other legends characters like jacen solo, kyp durron and kyle katarn are? And like always a great video

[@The_Peter1]

I think that anakin is by far the best dualist in the verse. Mind you he started training at 8 and a half when usually a Jedi child is taken to be trained from age 1 to 4 usually. Even if he trained much less then the others in the canon comics he was easily the best even beating the simulation of darth maul in young age. He was trained in a war period by master obi wan which is stated to be one of the best dualist of this golden era of fighting and was said to be the best form 3 user of all time by master Windu ( who also stated that he was the only one except himself who could have taken grievous who had a massive attack rate and aggressive form that would kill just about anyone else ) As if that wasn’t ènough he fought vaIianly in the clone wars and was considered to be a menace so he has a lot of experience in fighting. He fought at a young age ( 16 I think ) count dooku who even if old was considered to be the best dualist in the galaxy using form 2 Let s remember he defeated multiple times anakin and obi wan fighting them 1v2 and won. He was almost on the same ground as master yoda in his prime years. Yes yoda did hold him off but in the long run he wins since master yoda can only fight for about 15 minutes before tiring out since he is 900 Anakin (young ) did loose against him and lost an arm but he kept becoming better and better By the time he was 22 he had already mastered sword duels and had a padawan who thanks to his teachings will survive against darth maul. When he started to use some of the dark side power it was stated by Lucas that on mustafar vader / anakin was even better at dueling than master yoda and if yoda had gone instead of obi wan he would have been bested in combat and died. You see he did all this by the time he was 22 , after he lost all his limbs he lost 70% of his connection to the force and lost a lot of power and movement possibilities but still as Vader he became one of the strongest dualist in the galaxy Had he not been defeated and lost all limbs he would have been the best who ever was Many people say that Luke at 25 is stronger than anakin but forget that he learned everything from books and recordings while anakin has real masters and real fighting experiencenves and as you see him fight you can see he is kinda sloppy and anakin would shred him to pieces

[@professorsassafras]

honestly i would re rank this list 1) dooku 2)windu 3)Obiwan 4)yoda 5) Anakin is sharing this spot with darth sideous, just like how sideous was pointed out to be rather sloppy and overreliant on the force in this video. Anakin was a bit sloppy himself, a lot of his wins rely on him using Dark side Steriods which aparently help you reach your full potential instantaniously. (but its temporary) also repeated use of the dark side steriods tends to slowly destroy the person over time. the force usually by itself requires a lot of patience knowledge and understanding and hard work to reach your full potential but you get to stay at your full potential longer term without the drawbacks. honestly if you took away anakins massive dark side chosen one shtick away and equalized his powers im pretty confident every single character on this list could beat him.

[@bleachmon1]

The clone wars started in 2008. The Disney buy out was in 2012. Ahsoka is part of legends. Why do people think the clone wars is not part of legends. Are the original and prequel trilogies not part of legends continuity because they’re canon.

[@jasonhosea9331]

Remove force from the equation and while dooku would have the edge on skill wouldnt that form vatiation be more dependant than most on the force for precognition

[@professorsassafras]

I mean Anakin was using the dark side force on Obiwan and still lost

[@shavedata5436]

I honestly think mace was the most powerful warrior in the prequel era full stop

[@miquelcanosasanteularia1678]

Yoda

[@debater452]

Coleman Trebor solos

[@TheFandomeClips]

Coleman Trevor OP!

[@professorsassafras]

Flattening the power curve means taking away Anakins chosen one cheat code too and Anakin was not outnumbered he only had... A clone army? Shooting at all the Jedi? Oh yes Anakin is totally outnumbered.. *sarcasm*

[@hubertwaliszewski5740]

How dare you mention that Plo Koon was the only Jedi, not Dooku or Windu or Ani or Obi or Yarael Poof, to defeat Yoda, and then not give him even an honorauble mention!? (Legends Grievous also deserves one) Great video aside from that fact. Will you do what if scenarios from Star Wars like you do Game of Thrones?

[@TheFandomeClips]

We will when we get round to it Hubertz my friend (We need to build a SW audience first and the algorithm pegging us as a thrones channel is making that a very painful process lol) Thanks for watching as always mate! Liam

[@SilkBuckets]

Anakin is the goat!!

[@SilkBuckets]

obi too

[@bensilk6431]

In terms of pure skill, Anakin, Mace and Dooku are the top 3 with probably obi wan in 4th. Each of those 4 were the true zenith of their forms, and all for were in awe of each others bladework. Anakin was clearly the most talented, dooku had the most experience Dueling and Mace was the biggest innovator of the lot. Obiwan was the best in form 3 but he was the most orthodox of the 4. Yoda and sidious were both good with lightsabers but not great. Neither were a prodigy and neither focused on it, preferring the force. Neither could take the top 3 blade masters with sabers alone

[@DenshaOtoko2]

General Obi Wan Kenobi Master of lightsaber forms 3 & 4.

[@arthropod-doctor]

Before watching- Dooku or Obi-Wan

[@tritan3900]

Cool

[@unreal306]

I feel Maul gets villain nerfed he is the strongest in my opinion

[@realBatman-89]

But he's not. Far from it.

[@TheFandomeClips]

He would have been the easy 6 I think Unreal! Thanks for watching! Liam

[@MagmaBlaster]

Hold on, you can flush a gameboy down the toilet?? How big is your bathroom???????///??

[@mr_thez]

your saying a man who got destroyed by a man who got overpowerd by yoda is better than yoda

[@finlayames6216]

You miss the part on the introduction and multiple times throughout where he states it’s in a hypothetical scenario where all their force abilities were levelled out. Yoda’s biggest advantage is he is the most powerful Jedi of his era, not his skill. Also simply saying character A beats character B who beats character C, so character A must beat character C doesn’t work on Star Wars. Anakin beat Dooku. Dooku beats Obi-Wan. By that logic, Anakin should beat Kenobi easily, except he actually lost a very hard fight.

[@professorsassafras]

Let's be fair to everyone else. Anakin was massively over reliant on the dark side and yes I know that using the dark side is *technically* legal in lightsaber duels. So Anakin technically won. I don't think that makes Anakin a more skilled duelist. It's like you and me having an Archery contest with long bows and Anakin uses a bazooka. Yes it's technically legal and anakin wins but not cause of skill. Darth Sideous himself says in the comics that Yoda would have beat Anakin easily. And in the revenge of the sith book. It's kind of revealed Sideous ordered dooku to not fight at full power and to go easy on Anakin. Plus when your old as count dooku you don't have the stamina you used to. I still firmly think Count dooku is number one all day baby. But I also think Anakin belongs on the bottom of the list. I know Anakin fans will force choke me but come on. Anakin is VERY reliant on the force and the dark side in a lot of his duels and take away the force and Anakin is suddenly not nearly as deadly as he was originally. Sideous also thought grievous could squash Anakin. Hey video idea. Who could beat Anakin Skywalker? Also this video is a kind of lightsaber skill only kind of thing. If the force was more equalized and no chosen one stuff for Anakin as this video claims I think Anakin would be at the bottom of this list.

[@movieclipsvideos1781]

I mean palpatine whooped everyone 😂😂

[@MultiAnikan]

There are people that Think asoka Can beat Skywalker What simps😂

[@TheFandomeClips]

We don't believe that but ive seen it floated on forums and the like. Ahsoka even at her strongest doesn't have a prayer of overcoming Anakin. Thanks for watching! Liam

[@MultiAnikan]

@@TheFandomeClips right?! I havent even seen the asoka show But wr all that scene where he threw her like a ragdoll and made her tremble IN fear

[@karimwalters7316]

How are you leaving out maul he is the best when it comes to pure lightsaber ability the natural speed agility and power from his physical strength is unmatched when he is fighting sidious on mandalore he is only defeated because of his lack of connection to the force he was out duelling him and besting him when it came to technique his ability power stamina without the force make him the best you are violating leaving him out he was controlling both qui gon and obi wan with ease with mostly just aggression and bloodlust just my thoughts

[@TheFandomeClips]

He made it to number 6 for us, but i definitely think there's enough of an argument to swap him out for Sidious! Thanks for watching as always Karim! Liam

[@pop3754]

Who’s voice is this wtf I can’t watch this without the other guys voice bro

[@TheFandomeClips]

The channel is a two person endeavour. The voice your hearing in this star wars video is Liam. He's the main voice of the channel currently and if his voice isn't for you it's unlikely this channel isn't for you because he voices 95% of the videos and that's unlikely to change soon 😂 The other calmer voice you sometimes hear is Thom, he's the guy behind the visuals and only occasionally lends his voice to videos. He's getting more confident and it's likely you'll hear more from him as time goes on and we up our output. We understand Liam's pompous energetic delivery isn't for everyone 😂

[@pop3754]

@@TheFandomeClipsoh shit I made a mistake I like this guys voice I thought this was the new house of the dragon video

[@pop3754]

I was talking about that video I don’t know how I posted on this video wth

[@TheFandomeClips]

@@pop3754 cool, you can skip my stuff, cheers :D - thom

[@teewall777vahxc9]

Bro no way Qui-Gon Jinn isn't top 3. Considering that is Counts Apprentice. 🤦

[@TheFandomeClips]

If Mauls not Top 5 , QGJ is nowhere near 😂😂 -Thom

[@finlayames6216]

Having a skilled master doesn’t automatically make the student as good. Jin was certainly good, but he’s no where near top tier. He has stated he is nowhere near Dooku, which Dooku agreed with. He lost a 2v1 with Maul, so as fandom said he can’t really be put above Maul.

[@OmarAbuGhosh-sl7ij]

my all-time list is: 1) Vader 2) Dooku 3) Revan 4) Tulak Horde 5) Yoda 6) The senate 7) Mace 8) Exar Kun 9/10) either Obi-wan or Luke pich and choose whatever u like

[@OmarAbuGhosh-sl7ij]

I chose my words carefully, Vader not ani

[@sirburscur1788]

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[@robinvandesteeg3015]

First!

[@Ronfost89]

Did you say Yoda has no originality? Name 1 other Jedi who bounces around and doesn't stay in 1 spot for more than a second? The dude has no line to control, predict or manipulate and is the least static target ever shown in Star Wars. I'm not saying he is the best but what you used to undercut him was extremely incorrect.

[@TheFandomeClips]

Well Yaddle also fought like that for a start. And what Yoda does isn't anything special or unique, his flips and spins and bouncing around are just the basic Su Ma rotations from Ataru, but executed flawlessly. Thanks for watching Ron! Liam

[@reinaldobarreto5204]

Dooke fans, hahaha. Anakin, number one in every aspect of the force user. By a large margin.