HOW A GOLF BALL CAN CHANGE YOUR GAME

We discuss how a simple golf ball change can make a significant difference to your ball flight throughout the bag.
0:00 // Intro
2:35 // 50 Yard Shot
4:59 // Pitching Wedge
7:26 // 7 Iron
9:07 // Driver
11:17 // Results & Conclusions
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[@rossreeder5865]

I would like to see more of these tests done with slower club head speeds. Between 90 and 95 mph where most of us are at to help us choose which ball reacts better for us.

[@christophersiegert8343]

There's a myth perpetuated by marketing and it's that there are golf balls that "fit" swing speeds better. You would get the same results directionally, it wouldn't matter. Balls that spin the most with the fastest swing speed also spin the most with the slowest, etc etc.

[@lowcodelucas1088]

@@christophersiegert8343 this is objectively untrue. Give a high speed player a low compression ball and it will not perform at all.

[@shaunryan3766]

​@@christophersiegert8343 this is so wrong

[@angryangryangryangr1]

Great job Matty! swing looks amazing. I really would like to see more on course vlogs like you used to do! Those videos were amazing!

[@igolffff]

Great info Ian and Matt! Such a great channel.

[@BackwoodsCalvinist]

I enjoy your videos so much. The amount of knowledge I gain watching you guys is insane. I finally saved up some money to get a proper fitting. I never have been fitted for anything before and I feel I strike the ball well but I'm anxious to see some gains in a proper fitting. My clubs are about 7 years old im excited to see the technology improvements. Keep up the good work guys.

[@mariofonseca9267]

I’ve been listening to the TXG team singing this song for a few years now. The absolute top golf channel on KZbin. Thank you.

[@belleyy4810]

I love you lot (platonically speaking) regards to the solid everyday info on golf and the major and minor changes that can be achieved if you look in the right areas.

[@johngibson2639]

Great viewing and very interesting. I just love watching Matt hitting balls.

[@jonnydaniel195]

Great ball speed from the Wilson STAFF Model off the driver whilst great short game and iron spin. I love this ball and this justifies the same reasons why I love it

[@josephfrietze2762]

Thanks as always for the free knowledge!

[@tomduckworth8335]

I have played the Z Stars for about 5 years now. This gives me some good ideas. I may have to try the Wilson’s I was shocked the driver spin was so close

[@iketriantafyllakis9673]

Really cool video guys. I switched to the Z-star ball this season and enjoyed it, interesting to see the differences in the wedge game

[@McCuB3D]

My favorite part about these videos is always the awkwardly long silence while they are hitting, and all you can hear is the breathing. Aleays great information!

[@MK355]

Great video, love this explanation it’s definitely not something many people think about

[@kjc9293]

Very insightful,, Unbelievably consistent strike!!

[@richardjacobs7632]

Average swing speed pieces are really helpful for equipment and balls! Love your work.Thank

[@kevinarbogast9309]

It’s hilarious how benign the choice golf ball is when hitting driver! Matt’s swing is so consistent!

[@leewalford2468]

Great stuff boys 👏🏼

[@nicmansfield5769]

Excellent video as ever.

[@franidelaserna]

Great content guys!

[@JonBarraquio]

Love the comparison! I was wondering if you can do a comparison between these and the lower end balls (noodle, cut, etc.) so that people and know what the differences are in performance

[@garyhovey9305]

This is brilliant! The 2021 My golf spy ball test provided ball options for my mid speed swing so I tested them all. Snell mtb-x, prov1, Bridgestone tour b x, Snell mtb black, Srixon Z star xv, prov1 left dash. I have the swing caddy sc300i which is pretty accurate…..accurate enough I suppose. The Snell MTB-x was the lowest spinning, best performing ball through my bag…….so for now that’s my ball. I had been playing the Snell mtb black thinking it suited my game perfectly…….I was losing 11 yards off the tee and spinning the ball off the green. Feels great to tee it up knowing I’m hitting the right ball!

[@yanistsiopani2120]

Hey Gary, what's you swing speed with driver... just curious as I'm also gaming the Snell mtb-x at the moment. I tend to think that all my longest drives have been when using the ProV1 though 😬

[@darrencope1]

Really interesting! Would more benefit from the high spin Wilson if it performs so well with the driver ? Keep up the great work

[@johnhipp7926]

Love this!!

[@SePhO11]

I played the Z Star during the summer, since its got colder and wetter ive started playing the Honma D1Plus, dont need the spin or stopping power as much going in to a softer green and it retains my yardages pretty well.

[@barracatcher6466]

Vice pro is the ball for me!! Great distance but still have the stopping power/ height I love. And sweet off the driver.

[@mikebarton8671]

Great test!

[@jeffpigott2440]

Great vid. Had no idea the spin performance of the Staff ball.

[@grabbaloni]

Great swing Matt, looking dialled in!

[@andrewthompson8434]

Great video I play a avx and x star and really can tell the difference in spin

[@dabdias]

Very nice video! Thank you. Have you ever tested the new Wilson Staff vs -ProV1X? I was surprised to see the Staff keeping up in terms of distance (only real difference was with 50yrd shot) despite being high spin. It seems to me that the explanation is higher ball speed, right? It would be interesting to see how two very times balls (left dash and staff) compare across the bag. Thanks again! I play a left dash thanks to you - I need those extra yards across the bag, spin is of secondary importance (even though the left dash spins quite enough for most people, including myself).

[@jerryquesenberry2520]

Excellent

[@dchan328]

Thanks guys 👍👍👍

[@colinboxall2692]

Great stuff.

[@starks1974]

WOW! What great info. I also thought it was my clubs making the ball balloon but realized it is most likely the ball, especially at the range where you get suckered in thinking you are hitting bad shots.

[@josiahjones9521]

Range balls spin alot more which will balloon shots.

[@tydierberg5020]

Really helpful

[@JT-xs4br]

Just confirmed why I love the Wilson staff for me! As a sweeper average speed swinger, I need more spin!

[@davidberlin711]

The grove Matt got in with the pitching wedges made my jaw drop! He was all over the pin again and again

[@rickcudmore8156]

Good to know the ball fitting is included.

[@jaydoubleu0311]

Haven't even watched but I legit asked a ball question yesterday!!

[@ryangelrod6058]

Great video. How do you analyze the trade off between spin, launch angle, peak height, and land angle? Or is spin the most critical element?

[@robertturnbull6818]

Matt is so consistent I don’t understand why he is not on tour somewhere

[@elchipotle623]

Not only is it middle of the road, but the Z-Star showed way smaller deviation... Quite impressive. Even if their numbers aren't what you're looking for spin-wise, it's very consistent ball to ball it seems.

[@chasecars1savelives]

Ridiculous that Matt can hit a green 300 yards away basically on command with his driver. I’m out here missing greens from 120 with a wedge in hand

[@NickWainwright6970]

My pro says missing the green with a wedge is like missing your face with a spoon!

[@Eqnotalent]

today i missed the green from 33yd after an amazing drive. it took me 4 shots to finish the hole. why we play this game endlessly???

[@beckmanchilds756]

@@Eqnotalent That's me almost every hole haha.. ha.. ha

[@mangoman2148]

They do edit out the bad ones and show the shots they deem good enough for a fair test.

[@aidangriffiths5075]

Look at the shot count in the top right of the screen, the shots aren't sequential, they pick the best ones. It's not a knock on them, the performance and comparison is better when comparing best shot to best shot

[@vikrampitre2343]

Really surprised, nah shocked, with the Wilson staff performance. Thanks

[@seancondon2097]

Would love to see similar test done with slower swing speed / less consistent player to see if the separation in performance increases.

[@krusher74]

they should have just retested with righty matt and just added the results

[@80wall]

@@krusher74 or for someone that slices the driver which ball would reduce the amount of side spin so the ball might somehow still be in play?

[@seegarsmkr]

Besides the obvious, the thing that was interesting to me was the consistency with the Z-star with standard deviation. Thanx for the info.

[@josephwirtz8352]

Except for the 7 iron, correct?

[@legend9018]

How much does the quality of Matty’s strike impact these results? For higher handicaps whose strike moves around quite a bit and swing slower can they really expect the same variances?

[@golfguy1406]

No, a higher handicap player cannot expect the same variances. The performance of the golf ball is predicated on the club face being delivered in optimal conditions. TXG (love them) did a video some time ago about the benefits of using a premium golf ball even as a high handicap player, and if I remember correctly the resounding consensus from the comments was that the increased performance did not offset the potentially lost money from losing balls in trees, ponds, etc. I did not switch into a premium ball until I was a low single digit handicap precisely because of your question; with my strike pattern being all over the club face, the tight variances in performance of a premium golf ball (or any ball really) were completely moot because I could not present the club face consistently.

[@legend9018]

@@golfguy1406 it’s a good point. I think the benefit to a premium ball lies more in the quality of the construction and the consistency in the performance you get. Putting a good swing on a cheap or poorly constructed ball (not that you can tell) can produce a result that could make you question your swing. I think manufacturers have gotten better and mygolfspy testing has helped that as well. Thanks for your input

[@seanhaynes5654]

Hands up If you just ordered a dozen wilson staff like me 🤣🤦‍♂️ Great vid as always gents

[@Drew_peaballs_128]

Swapped to the tour Bxs ball after finding one in the course and using it for a round, hit so many more greens and wedges are better because it really stops on the greens well I don’t buy em brand new I buy em second hand off ebay, $30 for 25 balls and they have been hit once or twice and lost then re sold Better than buying brand new 👌

[@arvinddas6803]

A good ball does change your score drastically ! Agreed

[@grahamkuehner6697]

Great video! Will a high spin ball potential cause more side spin as well or is that totally just down to how you hit it?

[@gregjones2623]

As usual a great video guys. But would be great to see with Right hand Marty to accomodate a majority of where golfers are swinging at.

[@JudiniRacing]

Hi! When I play pitch and putt (50-120yards) sometimes the ball land on the green but go out due to the backspin. Taking into account that there are no driver shots, the tee is from an artificial mat and the ball “always” land on the soft green… what ball do you recommend for wedge shots with the least backspin? Thank you very much for your time

[@StefanBirdie]

Bought a dussin Staff balls. Can’t see any negative, longest of the tee and super spin around the greens. Win-Win

[@shiversbasketball]

Awesome video guys! Shout out to Wilson Staff for their golf ball performing very well in this test! Surprising results!

[@davead6578]

It’s too bad that Wilson priced them the same as a Pro-V. Not sure how many golfers would rather play the Wilson Staff over the Pro-V.

[@shiversbasketball]

I would choose Pro V1 over Wilson at the same price. sounds like they really missed an opportunity for us regular golfers to try their ball

[@maaduece5132]

would love to see a test of a bunch of random balls picked up from the golf corse , the ive just found a premium ball in the bushes while looking for my lost ball type of thing to see how much variance youd get if you played a bunch of random ball s during a round ,

[@halltw08]

Can you guys do a video on how to fit yourself on a ball through testing with a launch monitor? What should you look for?

[@gilbertamthor5098]

Wow. Who would have thought a wilson staff came out testing so well. So funny usually when u find one of those wilsons out on the course you throw it back in the lake! Lol

[@NJRebel]

Went for a fitting recently and my spin across the bag was high. Fitter wanted to sell me a higher priced shaft and clubs to bring down spin. Instead I suggested to change up the ball to the left dash and my numbers dropped to within an acceptable spin number, saving me money with not having to jump up another pay scale for a shaft/club .

[@gordonmcshannock4610]

Another great vid guys. I tend to use the q star tour or wilson staff duo professional. I'm a 18 handicap and Scottish so like to save bit of money would like to give the new wilson staff ball a go but it's higher compression and a bt pricier. Do you guys think for n average swing speed the results would be the same???

[@BatcatCA]

I feel like this video is suggesting Matt should try that Wilson on course ;) All that extra spin on the shorter clubs, and no downside on the driver?

[@Rohan-ne4pp]

This is the reason why if I am trying a new club, I always use one of the balls that I play with and not the ones that is at the fitting place. That way I can see spin, distance, feel, sound etc with my ball

[@GeoffAskewGolf]

I would kill to see matty hit the new vice pro plus 4 layer ball. I personally love them and they feel and preform similar to the tp5x but the price is sooo good

[@Boss302ATC]

I would bet for a less proficient ball striker, the ball matters more! My buddy has trouble getting it airborne, gave him a higher spin ball and the effects were incredible.. almost regret it! 🤪

[@youngunz42]

The high spin ball seemed to have higher ball speeds to keep up distance wise with the other two. Is there a correlation between the high spin and ball speeds?

[@phytosnappy3069]

Did you crank up the green firmness? They seem to be releasing more than usual.

[@zacharybouthillier6182]

It would be interesting to know if you can achieve the same numbers with a low and mid spinning ball just by the driver fitting

[@mayorjustin798]

Can you guys comment on how the type of indoor turf can impact spin numbers? Also, which turf are you now using? Seems like you’ve changed a couple of times over the last few years Thanks!

[@bogeyatbest2213]

It’s nice to have a robot do your test for you, Matt’s swing is all I want for Xmas

[@yanistsiopani2120]

Join the queue 😆

[@TedInoue]

I found it really interesting that the carry distances were almost identical in spite of the variations in spin. It also shows the genius of the Wilson ball designers because they were able to have a "normal" spin with the driver and keep the distance in spite of the super high spin with the wedges. Really interesting tests!

[@iiZAPPx]

I am very very very impressed with the Wilson Staff results. I play off a + handicap and now I am a bit curious LOL

[@petehedrick1723]

Nice video. Do I understand correctly, I launch my irons low, I would be suited to a high spin ball .

[@MrMavrix]

I would like to a see similar test with TP5, Pro V1 and Chrome Soft… 👍

[@Deeceemaster14]

Based on most of these numbers, does it mean that it would be better for most golfers to play high spin balls. This test has really shown that the balls didn’t lose many if any yards but gained necessary spin that most golfers need and would greatly benefit from (fwiw I play the Bridgestone XS)

[@john_the_swede]

What wasn’t addressed (or I missed it) was the superior standard deviation of both carry and total distances of Wilson Staff ball.

[@Leepfall]

This might lead to a next test. I personally as an amateur will play my pro V1 until it is lost. Can we do a test with a standard new proV1 vs a scuffed/used/indented/grass stained proV1? This way we know if we really will see some inconsistencies with an old proV1 vs out-of-the-box. I don't see a difference personally with the rounds I play the same ball multiple times. If there is a difference, I might change out or even clean my ball more consistenly.

[@jmeineck]

Who would you recommend in the Oregon area for club fitting?

[@larryyoung9106]

sure would like to see a comparison between the Prov1X, Prov1X left dash and Prov1X left dot. hint,hint,hint....

[@christiandavis5014]

Looking at the consistency of carry and total variance, how material is this really? Also, how does compression impact the spin variances?

[@ronankenny5373]

Was there any trends in dispersion? Also do you use public info like MyGolfSpy ball tests in your fittings?

[@djmico0713]

Great stuff as always. I am just wondering how much launch angle and aerodynamics affect the ball flight. For example, I play the ‘21 ProV1 and love it, but feel I could use more spin on short shots. I experimented with high spin balls like ProV1x and noticed they would just balloon up and rob me of distance, especially if there was some wind. The different compression/feel is also different. Is there an option that feels and launches like ProV1 but has more short game spin?

[@heathrush2793]

The ProV1X Left Dash is marketed to have ProV1 launch characteristics with ProV1x spin levels. Give it a try!

[@Uberican718]

When looking at the ball data from the shots of each iron (Wedge, PW, 7Iron, Driver), what order should you priotize the data points. Should Carry/Total distance proximity to the pin be prioritized over ball speed or spin? Etc. I tried fitting myself into 3 different balls and distance wise they were all within yards of each other and spin numbers.launch angle were all relatively close to each other for 2 of the balls out of the 3. (Tested myself for Bridgestonge - RX vs Callaway - Chrome Soft X LS vs Taylormade - Tour Response Stripe). Just trying to fiugre out what 1-2 data points are most imporatant when trying to pick between 2/3 balls.

[@andy66l97]

100% understand about using the adjustability of drivers, but roughly what % of golfers are fine with the face angle this produces in your experience? Thx. Great review as always both of you💪👍

[@kourt2469]

Ideally the face angle would be irrelevant because you'd square the face up to the target at address, you wouldnt just let it sit open or closed

[@joshuamoon1430]

Pretty interesting to see that distances didn’t really change regardless of the ball. Would have thought there would be discrepancies there.

[@ryanwalters694]

I currently play a 9 degree driver. I know I launch it higher than I should and imagine I apply a lot of spin too. I’ve ordered some prov1 left dash balls. Waiting on them to come in. If it doesn’t hit the window I’d like, should I lower the loft sleeve? If so, by how much?

[@geemac979]

i often refer back to this vid to review ball performance and i wondered if another vid using same balls and clubs to review performance stats into varied head winds at say 1. 5mph 2. 10mph and 3. 20-25mph Ian, is this a possible follow up vid?

[@FlyboyAF22]

Gold Star gents

[@richardsteell2970]

Could sit and listen to Matty boy pure irons all day long

[@freddywayne]

Bridgestone Tour B RX - TaylorMade Tour Response - MaxFLI Tour - MG Tour C4 & OnCore ELIXIR

[@freddym6643]

Did you guys find any validity in the performance claims from the reactiv cover that Bridgestone uses? Better ball speed and spin with long shots, with increased short game spin compared to other brands

[@shiversbasketball]

Hey Freddy! Based on my testing the Tour B X ball has more ball speed and wedge spin that the softer Tour B XS. I was shocked at the results.

[@patrickdabs]

@@shiversbasketball if you’re compressing a softer ball too much(swinging too fast for the compression rating), you’ll get more spin from a firmer ball since you aren’t taking the gear affect off the ball as much when you’re squishing the ball onto the face for longer. If you cannot properly compress a firm ball, the results will change and the spin numbers will look vastly different from player to player.

[@EaglesXsandOs]

@@patrickdabs How much compression are you quantifying as "too much?" Are you also implying that 95 compression could be perfect for someone's 8- iron, but that same person would over-compress their 4-iron, because of the additional speed? To go from elastic compression to plastic deformation (over-compressing the golf ball), you would likely need to swing in excess of 300 MPH.

[@richcamies9494]

Is there a fitting centre like this in England ?

[@DLudGolf]

Which ball should I go to if I need to drop 1000rpm spin from proV1?

[@marcduncan139]

What about balls that seem to spin too much off the driver, but are great around the greens and fit well with your irons?

[@shakes2966]

could you make a top 5 ball for each category?

[@kevinhartman7465]

So do the softer golf balls have the higher or lower compression number? This has always confused me...

[@dduplessis399]

If you spin the ball alot with your irons. Is there a big difference between a Chrome Soft vs a Pro V1

[@WW-jf2me]

depends on who i would guess. chrome regular soft dips right out of the sky for me. but spin tons for my wife. which i guess is all about swing tec and speed

[@tuxediomafia]

My curious question in ball tests like this is, what is the difference between a new ball, and one that's seen several rounds of action? You know like that ProV1 that's on its 4th or 5th round, that has 4 or 5 scuffs on it. What's its performance compared to a new or newer one?

[@nikeryder]

Mygolfspy has tests that show the difference

[@gskeff]

Will Matt be moving to the Wilson golf ball?

[@jeffreylondongolf3448]

Top 3 lowest spinning golf ball?

[@MSG19772]

I wonder if there's a huge difference from playing a cheap 2 piece ball versus premium balls like Prov's , Tp5's etc. For sure with the wedges and the spin around the green. But does a mid or higher handicapper see any benefit from the more expensive balls?

[@phytosnappy3069]

They've done those videos in the past, they showed that high cappers gain more with premium balls compared to low caps

[@rulemaker4]

I think the answer is yes, a high handicapper would see some decent benefits from premium ball, but IMO while one is a high handicapper, their money is better spent on practice and lessons than on premium balls that they'd rapidly be losing. Still somewhat helpful for a high handicapper to play the same ball consistently though, even if it is a cheaper ball with lower performance and consistency ball-to-ball.

[@Anjuuydhjjiskjhyys]

I remember tiger saying that changing the ball is the hardest thing to adjust in golf... or something along that line...