How Are Owen & Eugene The Same Name?

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[@doomi4055]

Patrick plz do Esther

[@scientoakuilusakuilar]

Owain is actually from Awiganyos meaning "desired birth" and Eugene is from a wholly unrelated word origin in Ancient Greek as Εὐγένιος (Eugénios) meaning something along the lines of "well born" with Eu meaning good or well. The only bit in common is that "ganyos" in Proto-Celtic is related to the Greek γένος (génos) via their shared ancestor in Proto-Indo-European "ǵenh₁" - to give birth, be born. I'd recommend supplementing your research with Wiktionary as some of the etymologies for other names you've covered have also been incorrect. Still love the channel, though! Any etymological channel gets a like and subscribe from me!

[@commander.saavik]

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[@myssie-theanimedevourer5835]

I named my oldest son Eugene after my grandfather. I had no idea it was the same as Owen. This was cool.

[@ВераБеленко-ц8о]

3:04 the ghost of Welsh

[@ecpcrowe]

My name is Eoghan. Which is the Irish translation of Owen. Another Irish version of Owen is Eoin. Regards Eoghan.

[@aisling1551]

In Donegal, when Irish was the the spoken language, Eoghan (pronounced awn as in yawn) was a different name to Eoin. So you could have had brothers Eoghan and Eoin.

[@rylout1786]

@@aisling1551oh my gosh it’s funny you say yawn because I have a faint memory of a kid named yawn from preschool but I wasn’t sure if I was making it up. Maybe he was just Irish, he was super white so probably

[@jazzblue9005]

I had a colleague from Ireland with the name Eoin - which is pronounced the same way as Owen. He said it was annoying that no one has seen that spelling of the name before but saw a positive: he knows if the person knows him/cares if they spell/say his name correctly! 🤣

[@Emperor_Oshron]

I would've mentioned Eugene (aka Flynn Rider) from _Tangled_ as another fictional Eugene, personally. ;) I probably would've also mentioned Owen Grady from _Jurassic World_ for another; I wouldn't be surprised if he's at least part of why the name is on the rise.

[@luizfellipe3291]

Yeah!! And also Owen Hunt from Grey's Anathomy

[@Neferkariusz31]

Also also, Owen from Total Drama Island.

[@Ozone-ey6ps]

"Hey Eugene, come over here!" "My name's not Eugene, it's Owen" "Yeah, that's what I said, Eugene"

[@davidroddini1512]

I work with an Owen. I showed this video to all of my coworkers in my department. Now we are calling him Eugene. Good thing he has a good sense of humor 😉

[@abnormalanorak]

I can hear Trips calling Eugene out repeatedly.

[@turbosdolphin]

Aloha Patrick! I know "Tina" is diminutive of "Christina". However, I was wondering if "Tina" has some unique origin elements all its own? Cheers!

[@navinvent]

owen wilson is another famous actor, probably the most famous Owen IMHO, wow

[@blaineb4145]

I like to pronounce Eugene as Waygen sometimes

[@Abraxium]

Real Old English hours

[@LastofAvari]

3:04 Welsh karma.

[@Emperor_Oshron]

Without looking into it myself, I suspect that the "genes/genius" part of Eugenius has to do with spirits according to beliefs of the time--the Romans believed that places themselves could be "alive" and personified them as spirits that they called genius loci, for another example of how that kinda works.

[@NephriteQueen]

Whenever I hear Owen I think of the character from Total Drama.

[@smembi]

No mention of Owen Wilson? Wow.

[@adammonlezun3304]

You should honestly do a video on Vasco and/or Gaston

[@rainbowkeykaraoke]

The uncommon Biblical Oren (Hebrew: אורן) is a masculine given name, meaning 'pine' or 'ash' in Hebrew. It begins with O. Used to be more popular.

[@Abraxium]

That means impure in Swedish, poor Orens :(

[@lightbearer972]

A friend of mine has the middle name Oren. I find it interesting that it's Hebrew, because "oren" is also the third person plural imperative Spanish verb meaning "to pray." As in, "You two, over there: Pray!"

[@michaelsegal3558]

And for names starting with “O” there’s Olivia, Oscar, Omar just to name a few

[@aaronodonoghue1791]

"Eugenius" is pronounced exactly the same as "you genius"

[@Bacopa68]

There's Owens Country Sausage. They're based in Texas and their products are widely availabe in the South and Plains

[@luizfellipe3291]

It bugs me how "Americo" is an italian cognate (direved from the same origin) to "Henry"

[@Abraxium]

Enrico though? Sure, it is Lombard to be precise but so is Umberto, Gustavo, Alphonso

[@luizfellipe3291]

@@Abraxium Yeah, Henrico and Henrique too

[@cennethadameveson3715]

Owain Glyndwr, very famous Owain.

[@DJPJ.]

Did you forget about Eugene fitzherbert (aka. Flynn Rider) from Tangled?

[@michaelsegal3558]

I can think of a few names that start with “W” such as Warren, Warwick, Wyatt, Wayne, Whitney, William, Wilson, Winston, Wilma just to name a few

[@lenzzzzzzz]

3:10 what a save!!! 🧤

[@Mimiheart9]

Was Gawain of the Arthur tales part of this evolution between Eugene and Owen? I don't know enough about Welsh to figure out how these languages would morph.

[@Jan_Koopman]

My middle name is Eugene, named after Eugene "Gene" Simmons. I looked up the name a few times. From what I found, it means "noble"/"from nobility", so that's probably what they mean with "well born". You said it went from Greek to Latin to English, but wasn't French (Eugène) in between Latin and English?

[@pkobalt]

Eu is Greek for good. Like a euphemism is a good word, and euthanasia is a good death. And gene has the same root as genetics. Eugene means well bred.

[@HouseOfKung]

Yevgeny, Yevgeniy, Yevgenii, Evgeny-and there you go.

[@hibbiea8841]

Owain is a Drummer for "Rubbish Time (parody of Dankmus' Garbage Time)"

[@EmelyPhan]

Other O names: Oscar (ex. Oscar Isaac, Oscar from the Blind Spot TV Show), Octavia (ex. Octavia Spencer, Octivia Blake from The 100 TV show), Octavian/Octavianus (Julius Caesar's grand nephew Augustus)

[@ironiccookies2320]

When I think of Owen I think of Owen Wilson's "Wow"

[@davidroddini1512]

I work with an Owen. I showed this video to all of my coworkers in my department. Now we are calling him Eugene. Good thing he has a good sense of humor 😉

[@deborahspiesz1468]

Well born also means wealthy

[@brianedwards7142]

Sir Owain, despite being caught up with Gawain's feud with Lancelot (over the latter "lancing" Guinevere behind Arthur's back) which broke the Fellowship of the Round Table, was one of the last to die at Arthur's side at Camlann fighting against his half brother Mordred. Their mother was Morgan Le Fay.

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Wait a minute, your a friend of Rob Words? That would explain (not a pun!) a lot.

[@auldfouter8661]

Wasn't expecting to hear my comment on Hubert read out - my back was turned. standing over at the cooker when Patrick launched into it ! Fun fact - my name is one of the - bert names.

[@Illumisepoolist]

Another Owen is the Fat Boy from Total Drama. While another Eugene is Bling bling boy from Johny test.

[@generrosity]

I'm a Gene named after Eugene "Gene" Kelly (Singing in the Rain), which I think the nickname is becoming much more popular than Eugene in New Zealand? And, I've seen it referenced as "Eugene = well born" from the greek roots of good and genetics (rather than intelect) - maybe there was a different lineage of meanings, or a bad looking back of dictionaries??

[@HBon111]

Makes me think of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. But that probably has nothing to do with Owen. Funny how names end up sounding close despite coming from vastly different sources.

[@michaelsegal3558]

I don’t know how popular either of these names are because in my life I’ve only ever known personally one Owen and one Eugene but I’ve known a lot of people with my name Michael

[@michaelsegal3558]

The girl versions of Eugene are Eugenia and Eugenie

[@langreeves6419]

Personal names should never be used as insults.

[@JeeWeeD]

When I hear the name Hubert, I think of Lt. Hubert Gruber...

[@michaelsegal3558]

W and Y are also consonances in English as well although Y is also sometimes a vowel

[@sandybarnes887]

Eugene Levy from SCTV, Schitts Creek and movies

[@realowengames]

NOOO MY FRIENDS ARE CALLING ME EUGENE NOW

[@reedthis]

When I hear the name Owen I think of Danny DeVito's character in Throw Mama from the Train. 🤣🤣 Ooowwweenn

[@owen755]

I live in the US and have never met anyone else with this name.

[@neilthornton3544]

Ywain is the most traditional form of owen /owain in welsh

[@Balin_James]

My dad’s middle name is Eugene. And he was born in Eugene, Oregon which is where I was also born and the city was founded in the late 1800s by a man named Eugene Skinner, and there’s a butte here named after him, Skinner’s Butte, because that’s where his original homestead was. I dont know anyone else personally who has Eugene in their name, though

[@laser8389]

I know another variant: the Russian/Slavic version is Gennady/Gennadij. We had a family friend named Gennadij and he was an absolute beast of a man. "Do you know what the English name is of Gennadij? It is Eugene." And that has always been funny to me, because my stereotype of Eugene is a small, mild-mannered man, and Gennadij absolutely was not. Also I have a great-uncle Eugene who pretty neatly fits that stereotype.

[@elizabethgundrum2619]

Name siblings for you to look into: James/Jacques/Jacob/Diego/Santiago or Matthew and Jonathan, with the half sib Nathaniel and the Greek step sib Theodore and Dorothy.

[@patriciaaturner289]

Owen Wilson. Full stop. 😊

[@sarreqteryx]

you're amazed by the Owain/Eugene variations, but what about all the variations of John/Sean/Ivan/Ian/Johann/etc

[@johndurham6172]

For fans of bad movies know the name Owen Wilson. Oh by the way when I typed the name Owen, the word own came up so there's one.

[@davidlewis8640]

As a lifelong wrestling fan, I have to agree that the less said about the wrestling Eugene, the better.

[@johnsonnyirenda]

How did Ouranos become Uranus in English? I wanna know.

[@BuchananBobby]

I have an idea for another names explained. Robert, where the name comes from and how it is shortened to Bobby.

[@riverAmazonNZ]

How about Ioan Gruffudd ? I always figured his name was a welsh owen spelling?

[@michaelsegal3558]

Uh, Hello a famous Eugene is actor Eugene Levy he was the dad in the American Pie movies

[@jimohara]

Eoughan not Owen in some cases

[@DanielNerd]

did you do daniel? if not can you do daniel pls? i think the meaning behind it is pretty known but i would love to see some fun facts about that name

[@FoggyD]

I remember Nick 'Eugene' Dinsmore from WWE too. An uncomfortable gimmick, even at the time. I wonder if there's any link to the name Egon, as in the guy from Ghostbusters? I recently got some stick for suggesting that 'Per' and 'Peter' could be the same name so feel a bit vindicated by the title of this video. There was an X-Factor contestant some years back from Northern Ireland whose name was pronounced like 'Owen' but spelled 'Eoghan' so you can see the link more clearly there.

[@Kundalini12]

You might find yourself on one of those tacky top 5 ghost channels after your youtube thingy fell down.

[@kajakawa]

As an Owen, I will be watching and re-watching this video. I'm looking forward to it.

[@davidroddini1512]

Glad you like it Eugene 😉

[@brianedwards7142]

Named for Herbert Hoover?

[@genethrowe8205]

You’ve upset the Welsh Gods!

[@helenbaumander3953]

It's not that strange. Think of Ivan and John coming from Yohanan.

[@YTuser35790]

Funny, cuz in almost all of my gaming accounts, my name was usually Owen 😂

[@michaelsegal3558]

They say Mohamed is the most popular name but I’ve never in my life up to this point ever met anyone with the name Mohamed so I don’t know how popular that name actually is

[@superwholocked7418]

University of American Samoa, for Christ's sake? An online course? What a joke!

[@owentaildeman8634]

Well im named owen lol

[@n00n1n]

Nice snag

[@danielyoung4685]

How does Eoghan fit in?

[@Hadar1991]

To be honest Owen/Owain sounds similar to German Eugen which I assume must came to Germany via text, because it is "Eu" is just pronounced like Germans usually pronounce "eu". Probably just a coincidence.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

I thought Owen like Ieuan and Ewen were Welsh for John or Yochanan. But I can see differentiating it from Gawain. Since we know what the Welsh name is, I'm curious to know what the Roman Britonic name was.

[@aisling1551]

Thought so as well, in Irish Eoin = John, Sean is Shane which is a form of John anyway. Eugene would be Aodhgene or little Hugh in Irish. Don't really that there is a connection between Eoin/Owen and Eugene.

[@stapuft]

easy. they arent. you can tell because they are both different from one another.

[@nummer3357]

The Celtic languages seriously need to start using the Latin alphabet in a correct way. Or maybe not use it at all.

[@JonEhBee]

Difficult to understand you over that music and the wandering off into tangents on other topics.

[@NemoFilHimry]

PLEASE READ THIS!!! This will make your life so much easier, and reduce your pronunciation mistakes almost to zero. The vast majority of scripts are not as stupid as English, and they write words almost exactly as they are pronounced. There are usually five vowels- a, i, u, e, o, but you're an English speaker and you guys need examples because letters have no meaning to you: A- like in fAther. I- like in bEE. U- like in bOOth. E- like in pEt. O- like in mOre. Literally almost every human on this planet knows this, except for English speakers. As for consonants it's a little trickier, but it's safer to assume that they have only one pronunciation, especially in Latin and Greek (so no C that sounds like S, or G that sounds like J). So, eugenius is not pronounced as- "you genius", rather- E U GE (like in GEt) NI US, with the same vowels as I specified above. There are probably languages or words which those rules don't fully apply, but it is still much better than the infuriating English corruption...

[@RealOwe]

Thanks bro

[@Svarsmannen]

It's always funny when you just use the english pronunciation for greek or roman words - like if it existed back then