How Bad is Bryce Young Really?

How Bad is Bryce Young Really? Today we do a deep dive into Panthers Quarterback Bryce Young. Go to buyraycon.com/thatsgood to get up to 50% off sitewide for Black Friday and Cyber Monday! Brought to you by Raycon
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[@thatsgoodsports]

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[@iwillelude9751]

New subber🔥🔥

[@iamdinodan3586]

​@@iwillelude9751🎉 16:56 😊🎉🎉🎉nn😊a😊of limes v

[@bigbearkat2010]

Personally I'm of the opinion Bryce's rookie year never had a chance. The front office basically went out of it's way to make this a disaster. Trading their best picks for the next two years was bad enough but then they threw in what would've been his best weapon to boot, all while being developed by a coaching staff that didn't even want him in the first place.

[@sbonfye8058]

I see what you’re saying but dude doesn’t even show flashes of what to come tho So basically your take is a charmen tissue excuse

[@TheOneAndOnlyD-O-Double-G]

@@sbonfye8058bro wtf is a charmen tissue excuse lmao

[@al3dz739]

Exactly. The coaching staff didn't want him and management set him up for failure.

[@jacobmeglich6699]

@@TheOneAndOnlyD-O-Double-G when Winston and Mariota were the top picks nobody was calling the Titans and bucs trash franchises. But in 2023 now everyone feels bad for the 1st overall pick. Panthers obviously should take some blame but it’s also obvious that this dude should of never been a top 3 pick

[@TheOneAndOnlyD-O-Double-G]

@@jacobmeglich6699 and wtf r u saying

[@michaelauberry1564]

Hey Perna! As a long suffering panthers fan this really wasn’t the video I needed on thanksgiving! I’m currently masking my horrible pain with exclamation points!!! Have a great Thanksgiving, I am dying inside 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[@georgeochoa632]

Cj stroud!!!

[@Jackson_the_king66]

Panthers fans? I haven’t heard of those since 2016…

[@dakotah1]

​@Jackson_the_king66 yea we don't want to be seen in public

[@ShudowWolf]

This comment made my morning lol thanks

[@ClanWiE]

Hahahahahahahaha saaaame! Hahahahahahaha!

[@PropagandaInc.-te7yv]

As a Carolina fan lamenting the absolute awesomeness that is CJ Stroud: It wouldn't have mattered whether or not we drafted Stroud. We have absolutely NOTHING to offer any quarterback in this team- no reliable wideouts, no offensive line to give a quarterback any time, a running back that, quite frankly, wasn't worth the money he was paid (shout out to Chubba Hubbard though!), and our best reciever is a tight end that cannot make the same impact that Travis Kelcie does. We don't even have enough hope for a good draft pick- Bears took that from us, along with the one thing that Bryce Young could have used, DJ Moore. Face it- Since Cam didn't dive for the ball after that fumble during the Super Bowl, we've never been the same. All i can hope as I cry into an Asheville based IPA to sleep is that next year isn't as bad.

[@blankicsgo3828]

Thielen is good isnt he?

[@machoboys8884]

Was Theilin ever actually good or just a check down merchant? Lmao

[@VeteranVandal]

Which is why you prepare the team to receive a qb, and don't draft them entirely on keeping your job or hope grounds.

[@randomperson5705]

​@@machoboys8884what are you talking about bruh 😭

[@machoboys8884]

@@randomperson5705 I’m just saying I’ve never been scared of Adam LMAO. He’s never even been a top 15 WR

[@sdlstr91]

I agree with your points. The main problem in Carolina isn’t the coaches or the players, it’s Tepper.

[@user-en9qd5nx8w]

Considering they just fired the coach, mid-season, yes, it's the ownership/high level management that is going to hold the team back.

[@excellingdeicide2967]

DEFINITELY AND EXACTLY☑️💯✅

[@AFLOVEable]

Respect, without any Broncos in it, you create really balanced and informative videos.

[@jasonreimer4742]

Speaking of fluky teams😂😂😂

[@ryancampbell4456]

As a Panthers fan who has literally been dying this season this was a video that has given me some hope for the next couple years thank you for being fair to Bryce Young and showing his good side and the reasons why he’s been bad. Continue to make great videos, man

[@UTxTheArchangel]

I always feel like if you take your fandom out of it, you can see and understand a player better...for better or worst. At a distance it can be seen what the Panthers issues are. It can be seen what Bryce needs to work on. Example I'll give is Jordan Love. Love looks promising in every game but if you don't watch his play and just see box scores, he looks bad. It doesn't take into account injuries, bad OL play, mind numbing playcalling, bad field position, and having young WRs who struggle running routes. A QB can only do so much when they aren't on their back, when WRs are open and not dropping the ball, when the defense gets stops, and when special teams get good field position.

[@wraynephew6838]

@@UTxTheArchangel Especially now that Jordan Love looks much better and have his team in the hunt for the playoffs. Just coming off of victory against the super bowl champs.

[@saemi74]

When a Thielen has 96 % of all passes and every team knows to just double team him, you are foooked

[@jmgonzales7701]

You cannot teach height

[@johnchedsey1306]

The one thing Young seems to have going for him is a level head and probably the right attitude to work through this rough start to his pro career. But I do wonder if he's one of those guys who won't be resigned by the Panthers to a long term contact, so he goes elsewhere and is suddenly much better.

[@jeffreyval9665]

He'll be lucky to make it 4 years. An extension?? Give me a break.

[@RK-um9tu]

The one word you never mentioned was talent...

[@smothersu3932]

@@jeffreyval9665Christ give the kid a break, your team is already down the gutter and you guys can’t find the guy at HC how is this Bryce’s fault

[@jeffreyval9665]

@smothersu3932 It's not Reich's fault that Carolina ownership and front office have no idea what they're doing. He knew this little kid wasn't an NFL Qb. He wanted Stroud. He's not a miracle worker there's just nothing to work with with Young. Giving up what they did to move up just to take a guy like this might go down as one of the dumbest moves in history. Tepper may think he's the next Jerry Jones, but he definitely isn't. You have to build a bad team through the draft, not give up really valuable picks just to take a guy that doesn't even belong in the league.

[@kevykev388]

​@smothersu3932 It's Bryce's fault because he's a fraud. His ass should have worked out at the combine alongside the other QBs so his draft projection could fall to the 5th round where it belongs. He's cocky and arrogant beneath that "soft smart nice guy" complex he carries. He's an impoviser. Improvisers do what they want. Nevermind a playbook. Nevermind actual strategy. Nevermind technique and form. Just hike the ball and "create". He's too small and slow with a weak arm to do that in the NFL. Kyler Murray barely skating by and Bryce ain't him.

[@sparklepiebaby]

This video pairs well with the one Flemlo just dropped 🔥

[@abikuneebus]

I’m writing this comment at the intro, so ol’ Randy Brandy might address this in the video-I think that people have kinda forgotten that most QBs need time to develop into something great. ESPECIALLY given his size, I was skeptical of the whole “most pro ready” tag he got. Some QBs are able to absolutely shine right off the rip, most aren’t. Not to mention the immense impact coaching has. Look at Tua with McDaniel vs prior years, or any Jets QB ever. I’m a Redskins fan, so no emotional attachment to the kid-Zach Wilson was doomed the minute he went to the Jets. They don’t exactly have a history of great QBs, and his confidence had to have been sapped by the end of last season. Then he gets training camp to watch A-Rod-then he’s starting. He’s shown flashes here and there, so the underlying talent is there. Gotta be hard to have confidence, a QB necessity, when the whole world is dunking on you 24/7. Maybe if he had half-decent coaching, more time to shadow a vet, less confidence-crushing public breakdowns, and a few more MILF rendezvous, he could have grown into a decent NFL QB. In my opinion, Bryce Young has even less to work with than Zach had, so if he does have a chance to develop into a pro bowl QB, he’s gonna need some time and patience from the fan base-good luck with that one. At the end of the day I genuinely feel bad for these kids. Sure, I’d kill to be a “horrible” #1 draft pick QB in the NFL, even with all the hate. But I’ve also got almost a decade more life experience, and I didn’t grow up being told I was the best football player in every league I played in, only to suddenly struggle, hear my idols talk about how bad I am, and get constant hate and god knows what else from the fan base. Gotta be rough, psychologically. I wish them the best, unless they’re playing the Redskins. Edit: I don’t think that “Perna? I hardly knowa!” has forgotten development, more the public at large

[@troybaxter]

Very fair assessment. I truly feel bad for both Young and Wilson. They are both in god awful environments that are shooting their QBs in the foot.

[@jeffdillon1972]

How he has got this far with mechanics like he has is a credit to the systems and protection he has had. He drops slow, holds low, and can't throw. I hope I'm wrong about this guy, but he is off to a very rough start.

[@eureka0521]

You have to adjust for the height, you can't just ignore it and hope it's not an issue. Brees was an artist when it came to finding passing lanes, Kyler and Russell use their mobility. I don't know the answer for Bryce but if i was him i'd be studying Drew Brees tape like crazy

[@shadeshiest22]

Exactly…

[@scorpionesp6510]

To be fair, none of his problems on the panthers right now is because of his height. He had a few ints because he was slow, buts thats coaching. He has to step back a little bit to read the field. The problem, is a 1.2 second pocket , no WR separation, shitty defense, terrible running backs, a Coach who didn't want you to begin with then he got fired so now you are working with a fresh coach with no off season to scheme, no wr to make plays, no fans in the stands to help cheer you on, and then you have Stroud who comes in as a stud and everyone hates you and blames you and they see you are small and short and just rags on you the whole time.. Yet he still maintains his composure , stays calm cool and collected, and still got labeled the most accurate passer in the league and he is a ROOKIE. His tiny ass took how many sacks this year from huge trucks and still standing. Im a bears fan, so I know shitty teams.

[@penguinreloaded7756]

I have been to all of the Panther home games this season. I have no idea if Bryce Young is good or bad. The offensive line is bad, we have one good (older) receiver, we dont have much of a running game. The coaching appears to be questionable. I have not given up on him or anything, but I don't have any expectations at this point. I think that we will be terrible for a while. Maybe he'll be good. Maybe he won't. Life as a Panther's fan has generally been painful.

[@chucknorrisapproval7745]

At least your honest your a true fan. Trust us eagles when through the same through with the chip kelly era. I’d say 4 years was the drought before the team got better.

[@MFBloosh]

It's Justin Fields 2.0. Justin had a horrible rookie year, but also had a horrible team. Then the next year, the team was even worse but he still found a way to be productive and make the team competitive. And now this year, even though the team (mainly the coaches now) is still bad, he's finally settled in. It just takes time, man. Hopefully your fanbase isn't like the Bears fanbase though. Watched Justin carry this team on his back for 2 seasons now and because of the team's record, fans who don't watch the games say he sucks.

[@calebhoffman6368]

@@MFBloosh the difference is that Justin fields is incredibly athletically gifted, tall, and has a cannon for an arm. Young can not take off for 70 yards for a play like fields can. Or throw a 50 yard dot. Young just will not be able to make it up imo.

[@jaylong4705]

As a jets fan, I feel your pain more than you know

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

Muh offensive line!

[@OkagaCalifornia]

As a Texans fan, I have no ill will towards Bryce Young. I think his situation sucks, but the only thing I care about is how the narrative shifted so fast when CJ Stroud started succeeding. Maybe Tank Dell is another rookie phenom, but going into the season, everyone said that CJ Stroud was gonna be set up to failure whilst the Panthers had the best location for a rookie QB to succeed. I'm glad that that was never the case and all the analysts overlooked how good Bobby Slowik is at letting CJ cook.

[@jayscott4990]

As a Panthers fan...this year isn't his fault. If we actually had a living, breathing GM they would have figured out we don't have a line. He doesn't have a good receiving corps. He never had a chance. Even if we got Stroud he would be struggling too. He does need time but he also needs a competent gm

[@MrFrmartin]

The biggest mistake carolina made was trade away his only real target away in DJ Moore. Bears made sure they would suffer

[@kp5250]

It was payback for trading Greg Olsen for almost nothing

[@MrFrmartin]

@@kp5250good point

[@daryld149]

This breakdown confirms why it’s impossible for me to watch ESPN, FoxSports, or NFL Network.

[@George-kz5hb]

What is wild is that after the first round, Levis was still on the board. They could have held onto resources and still had a new, promising QB. I think on the whole Young is better than Levis but Levis is at least sturdier, and could live a year until The O-line is fixed.

[@joemartini6909]

If it's the offensive line and wrs......why did Andy Dalton throw for over 350 yards and 2 tds in his only start ?......lol

[@903lew]

People hate on the Red Rifle but he’s never been a terrible QB. He’s a proper vet.

[@greenlantern7959]

To be fair, other guys coming out of loaded college offenses have also underwhelmed. Stroud has been a huge surprise compared to the string of Ohio State failures that preceded him.

[@denisfolcik1373]

I'm more surprised at Stroud doing so good compared to Young being bad.

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

I think Haskins and Fields ending up pretty shitty and that developing OSU QB stigma is the main reason Stroud didn’t go number 1. Stroud was more than just hitting 5 star blue chippers with 10 yards of space like Haskins and Fields were.

[@denisfolcik1373]

@@MrRyan-wu4jx I think the OSU stigma goes further back then them tho. They both were drafted to horrible franchises tho. Trying to remember the last great OSU QB (before Stroud), and honestly can't. Tua has atleast broken the Alabama QB curse for the NFL.

[@llamarre4]

@@denisfolcik1373now name the first round QBs out of OSU within the last 3 decades and the book on fields isn’t closed yet

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

@@denisfolcik1373 There aren't any. No OSU quarterback has ever succeed in the NFL, ever. The "most" successful was Mike Tomczak, who was 42-31 in his career, but he also threw 106 ints vs 80 TDs. An average player. Though to his credit he was undrafted. The other guys? Art Schlichter, Tom Tupa, Kent Graham, Bobby Hoeing, Joe Germaine, Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Terrell Pryor (drafted as QB, but became a decent slot receiver), Cardale Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Fields and now CJ. CJ and Fields are still playing. Haskins gets a pass, the rest were pretty much busts.

[@whosdaman911]

Love your balls deep videos Perna, keep them coming!

[@justing6292]

I was hoping since last season that we'd land Harrison Jr. He wouldve been perfect to stretch the field, we havent had a solid #2 since Mushin Muhammad! And when the team was in the perfect position to potentially draft him and pair him with DJ, now we can't. Its going to be a rough next couple of years.

[@gking2709]

Going from supercam to darnold to mayfield to young has been rough

[@troybaxter]

Can't forget to throw Good Ol' Teddy in the mix.

[@troybaxter]

And Kyle Allen and PJ

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

Drafting a tiny QB with a mediocre arm at #1? What could possibly go wrong?

[@MrMegaGamerMan]

I've thought Bryce was a mistake from the beginning. You can't teach height, and I always thought it was sketchy he didn't throw and weigh in at the combine. Wanted Stroud and Richardson (maybe even Levis) above Bryce That said....the Panthers fans were lied to about this organization. We were fed playoff aspirations for a team that obviously doesn't have any, and probably nothing on the horizon either. Bryce hasn't had a chance to show what he can do because of organizational dysfunction, starting at ownership

[@erindonofri689]

Young will never do anything in the NFL.

[@aknextdoor]

@@erindonofri689 that's literally just outright hatred. to say he won't do anything is absolutely ridiculous. he has won at a high level consistently and absolutely no one can sit and blame him for how he's done. the panthers are literally a mess. confide with a counselor or something for this unnecessary hatred you have for someone who doesn't know you man

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

I was out on young and not a fan But Zero weapons, zero run game, terrible scheme, terrible coach and terrible line

[@troybaxter]

I don't necessarily blame Young, but I blame every decision we made up to the point. I hate how they wiffed on multiple QBs and sacrificed tons of money in the process, and had the opportunity to draft a hometown hero that would have righted the storm that was last year in Sam Howell. Instead they wasted a 3rd Round Draft pick on an injury prone Corral that never played a single meaningful snap for the organization. Factor in throwing out your entire future for a long shot, and you end up in this predicament.

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@aknextdoor The NFL isn't NCAA.

[@georgenapper532]

As a die-hard Panthers fan, I appreciate how fair you were to Bryce. Maybe I’ll get blasted in the replies, but whatever. Nice to find the wholesome moments in this train wreck of a season.

[@heavenlydays2838]

That comparison with Jeffry Damer made me bust out😂

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

Jeffrey* Dahmer*

[@stevefowler2112]

Re: His size...he didn't throw at the combine nor participate in any drills, the 204 was water and fat weight. I played QB in H.S. at 5'9" 178 lbs (a decent arm but I had legit 4.4 40 speed) and when I see him at his playing weight he looks just like I did in pads. I think his true measurables are 5'9" 178 lbs which in the NFL is asking too much of any human that size to play QB at a high/elite/starting level.

[@shadeshiest22]

Yes exactly… he’s way smaller than what they claim, Kyler Murray looks to be around the same height but looks 50+lbs bigger/tougher and he’s three times faster… I couldn’t believe just how small and how SLOW Bryce Young was watching him in the NFL this season, not to mention he doesn’t have that great of an arm from what I’ve seen… There’s just nothing of positive talent I can see coming from him as a starter in the NFL, the only good thing i can say is it seems hes comfortable in the pocket, has a good attitude of his situation, good drive, and seems smart, knowledgeable, and likable… That is it

[@stevefowler2112]

@@shadeshiest22 Bryce is a very smooth athlete and at bama where he had room to move and great athletes to throw to and time to do it he did look like a magician at times and I get why some scouts had him so highly rated, but in his case his measurables should have been looked at more closely.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Trying to pass him off as 204 lbs is ridiculous. A 5'10" guy who weighs 204 will be stocky as hell and Young certainly isn't. He looks absolutely tiny out on the NFL field.

[@whatsoperadoc7050]

Working on his footwork will help. It helped Tua get a little more zip on his balls when he started setting his feet right with more consistency.

[@squishyturtles1648]

The awkward pause after you said you sex life sucks is what sold it lmaooo

[@symmatry9228]

surprised you didn’t mention Peyton Manning who broke the record for Rookie Interceptions & everyone thought he was a bust.

[@moneyman782]

Crazy watching this right after Reich got fired

[@millertime1202]

I'm a Panthers fan, and i blame David Tepper for the situation we're in. He needs to stop meddling in every decision and trust the guys he hired to do their job.

[@troybaxter]

We went from the Bipolar Cats to the Cat Shits.

[@jeffreyval9665]

Like going with Frank Reich's wanting CJ Stroud instead of Bryce who doesn't even belong in the NFL??

[@G5_Undisputed]

@@jeffreyval9665might go down as a worse version of Peyton and Ryan leafs draft class. CJ is a phenom Bryce is average at best from what we’ve seen

[@jeffreyval9665]

@@G5_Undisputed Obviously you never wanna see guys fail but even calling him average at this point might be giving him too much credit. Lol. Good comparison with the Manning and Leaf draft. I didn't even think of that. Crazy to think so many GM's, analysts, and other supposed experts thought Ryan Leaf was the more complete and NFL ready qb at that time.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

Yeah Tepper is a bad owner. Richardson had his personal issues but he was a much better owner.

[@SentreNet]

This is the series where I discovered your channel and eventually Tom.

[@dre3k78]

As a Panthers fan i think you covered his situation pretty well. The team atm is completely gutted and the only way forward talent wise is through free agency since we traded all our draft capital for next year away. Maybe a WR will fall in our lap later in the draft but its looking like we will have to settle for a veteran on the market. I dont really see next season being much better then this one but lucky enough we are also in the worst division in the league so anything is possible. Im not ready to call Bryce a bust until he actually has some talent around him to measure against.

[@defroen]

This gave me a sliver of hope for the future of Carolina. I think the real question is will David Tepper allow frank reich to have a say on what offensive weapons the panthers could acquire, and will tepper take more of a hands off role after this abysmal season?

[@asandynovella]

Looks like he won't lol

[@i_i8924]

@@asandynovella Fire the guy who wanted the other guy 😆🤣😂

[@Toolness1]

Seems like a good kid, hope things work out for him. He sure looked tiny next to Dak after the Cowboys game, that's always going to be a challenge to overcome but his accuracy and a eventual good line and targets that can get separation may be able to overcome that as much as possible.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Yeah dude is 5'10. I dont know why would anyone draft a midget im football

[@mfspic]

@@jmgonzales7701you keep hatin in every comment lmao get a job bro.

[@sexgod57able]

​@@jmgonzales7701Tua is a card carrying member of the lollipop guild

[@shadeshiest22]

lol he looks tiny next kickers, cheerleaders, fans, and even Kyler Murray! lol at least kyler has speed, an arm, and is tough with 50 more pounds of body mass it looks like… No way Bryce young makes it in the NFL as a starter, there’s just no way

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@shadeshiest22 yeah dude is 5'10

[@Naomi.Robertson]

Happy Thanksgiving yall and thank you for the content.

[@traviswalters2345]

This was the first video of yours that I have seen and it was hilarious and informative. You’ve earned a subscriber.

[@myidiotbox3]

Its clear watching Young, he doesnt have the tools to make players around him better. His arm strength is just average at best. Kyler Murphy overcame being 5'10 because he runs a 4.3 and has a cannon for a arm. Young is a bust at the 1.1 pick. If he was picked in the 2nd round. He would just be a project qb.

[@peenmuncher69]

Happy Thanksgiving to the Pernas!

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Brandon this is really good work. Appreciate your humor but also recognize that you really know the game & ppl can learn from your videos. This is the best assessment I’ve seen on Bryce Young.

[@user-eg5ez5jh3j]

Been waiting on this video 😢

[@ccselmo9363]

As a saints fan I’m glad the panthers drafted young

[@brettd7923]

I love Desmond Ridder who dat

[@ccselmo9363]

@@brettd7923 who dat baby

[@jackdorminey7706]

@@brettd7923did u love him cooking u last sunday

[@nickbacherbaronsoc7193]

As a panthers fan I am glad you guys signed Derek Carr.

[@BrooksDunn]

Yes! (Bucs)… Stroud bent the pirate over and plowed that mf’er, I couldn’t sit through that every year lol

[@lucasvonbraun]

When you're built like Nancy Reagan, it's tough to compete in the NFL

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

He's _tiny_ for an NFL QB. There are kickers that are much bigger than he is.

[@superkat460]

Enjoyed this compressive reporting!

[@gggawd6213]

Love the graphs! Very insightful

[@shaunalbert7681]

You know it’s bad when coach Reich got fired less than a week after this video was posted

[@eviee9693]

I'm not an avid NFL watcher and currently don't have an NFL team (cos Browns) but idk if I've ever seen a top pick look so weighed down and flat footed in the pocket. It looked seriously weird.

[@bigmeatpete69420]

Reqlly good episode today brandon thanks!

[@coreykelly6841]

Appreciate you sir. Happy Thanksgiving

[@MareShoop]

I’m a mom and I see a struggling young man and it breaks my heart. I feel bad for him 😢

[@codycevering2733]

Tua has the luxury of a team built around him. He would not be putting up good numbers if he wasn't in the perfect situation. Some of these other QBs will not get so lucky.

[@silverstang859]

Dude just discovered your channel, watched the broncos vs dolphins melt down hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

[@RPKraul]

Young was a very streaky player in college, but a lot of scouts ignored that part of his game and instead focused on the big splash plays. He’s a good dude, and he’s bright, but those qualities don’t guarantee success at the NFL level. He would obviously look better with more talent around him, but the Eagles and 49ers aren’t trading for him-not unless they’re looking for a high-end backup.

[@stevemalek2970]

Panthers really set Young up for failure. You cannot deplete talent that the QB needs in order to draft him.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

Hopefully bad enough to get the Bears the number one pick!

[@drewgadbois]

As a Bears fan, I really do want to see him succeed … next year

[@NAT-turners-Revenge]

🤦‍♂️

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

If y’all had just drafted Jalen Carter that could end up being the most lopsided trade in history. But Poles can even screw up gifts like the panthers gave him, probably blow the 2024 Panthers pick too.

[@jmgonzales7701]

He cant. U cant teach height

[@atomicnut9591]

​@@MrRyan-wu4jxpick a guy who just had a disastrous combine, character issues and not on the side of the ball we really needed to evaluate? God this take is so dumb. Darnell Wright was a great pick, and needed him so we can evaluate Justin Fields. Obviously that ain't going well, but it was the right call. Not to mention if Jalen would have even been as good overhere, where in Philly he has better coaching, teammates and an opportunity to bounce back.

[@kirometer5230]

​@@jmgonzales7701height isnt an issue. only casuals believe that.

[@olddirtybasterd-ex2vb]

Joe Burrow on that accuracy chart up there on his own - damn I hate QB injuries

[@JustAHoustonOiler]

He will be a decent backup. He needs just a little bit more time to develop.

[@obsidian00]

He NEEDS an O-LINE!!!

[@andref9663]

Or he just needs time as a rookie…

[@TheLoneGamr]

@@obsidian00He needs about a few more inches.

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

Stop it

[@erindonofri689]

​@@TheLoneGamrthis. The obvious.

[@TheJaker5]

Here’s what will happen. Either next season or the start of year 3 the OC will figure out what he’s best at and he’ll start to ascend. But once defenses figure that out he’ll struggle again and need to grow more as a passer for better or worse. I honestly don’t think Young can succeed consistently as a pro passer. But who knows for sure 🤷🏻‍♂️ we shall see

[@groovestreet77]

Great video

[@Jags_All_Day]

The Panthers need to look at the Jaguars' model. Between Trevor Lawrence's first and second years, the Jags went to free agency to add 3 solid weapons. They likely paid above market value to get them, but when you're not viewed as a contender or even stable, you sort of have to do that.

[@TrentonAmani]

As a Panthers fan 9 minutes into this video I have to say it's not that he can't stretch the ball down the field he's actually has shown off his arm strength a lot but the timing with his receivers is off cause of their lack of getting separation or running their routes correctly.. his o-line usually let defenses get straight to him so by the time he's getting sacked his recievers haven't even got to the top of their routes ... sometimes he actually overthrow his receivers🤣 so I think his arm not being big enough is a false narrative. his arm isn't Pat Mahomes level but it's definitely on par with players like Jalen Hurts, Tua , Brock Purdy - he actually does show flashes , even when he played Stroud he got hit 7 times more than Stroud but his receivers were able to get decent separation so he played better than Stroud even though his receivers dropped a few big passes he was making Pat Mahomes like throws

[@K1forMVP]

That’s the thing though he has a meh arm and there’s nothing extraordinary about young outside his accuracy. Kyler Murray is also smaller 5”10/220 but there’s several elite extraordinary aspects to Murray’s game from elite speed/athleticism/quickness to also possessing elite arm strength with one of the top 5-7 arms in the league, elite accuracy/ball placement and anticipation and polished mechanics . Young leaves much more to be desired and isn’t a generational athlete like Murray was.

[@TrentonAmani]

@@K1forMVP tbh I just feel like we're witnessing Drew Brees if Drew didn't have a good offensive line and good to great receivers .. Bryce has the potential to be better than Brees cause he's more mobile

[@Sbcmlg28247]

⁠@@TrentonAmani Better than a HOF QB with the most 5000 passing yard seasons in NFL history 😂😂😂

[@TrentonAmani]

@@Sbcmlg28247 he has the potential to be better ... Brees legendary & had one of the mist historic careers but his career is over and already set in stone, I think Bryce is capable of becoming great and elevating his game just like Brees did but in my opinion Bryce has more natural talent

[@Sbcmlg28247]

@@TrentonAmani What has he done thus far in the NFL that’s convinced you that he will be better than one of the greatest QBs of all time?

[@joeym5243]

Can you look into the history of teams trading up to the first overall pick/top 5? It feels like it's never really worth it

[@damarcusaustin4911]

Not to advertise another channel. But flems new video on Zach Wilson goes into the statistics of who is more success between top picks and mid round QB picks and mid round QBs have faired better. So it's never really worth it cuz the team trading is a dumpster fire already lol

[@exhaustguy]

Mahomes definitely worked out and Allen is still TBD but was a good trade/pick. Before that Michael Vick. Trey Lance was epically bad. Trubinsky. Leaf, Rosen (Dolphins did them a favor by giving away a 2nd round pick for him thus minimizing the damage), RG3, and Darnold.

[@Sbcmlg28247]

⁠@@exhaustguyMahommes and Allen weren’t top 5 picks.

[@exhaustguy]

@@Sbcmlg28247 - Good point. It really shows that trading up isn't the right approach into those top five picks. Burrow and Tua seem like the only two winners in the top five since 2015. Lawrence is still TBD.

[@Sbcmlg28247]

@@exhaustguy I agree. I feel trading up for a qb only makes sense when the capital spent won’t handicap your franchise. The Chiefs were already a playoff team before the Mahommes trade they just needed him and a few more pieces to put them over the top. I think teams make the mistake of trading for the qb first and then trying to build the team after they’ve already used up vital capital to acquire said qb. The Panthers put Bryce in a bad situation from the start and because they traded away so much to get him they won’t be able to get much help for him in the next couple drafts and big time free agents probably aren’t going to want to sign in Carolina since they’re going be a bottom of the barrel team for the next few years so that’s gonna be even more detrimental towards his development.

[@BoondockGore]

Happy Thanksgiving perna. Hope you and yours are well.

[@mrmajikjr]

Raycon makes headphones. I'm surprised no one has asked if they could advertise those for their sponsorship instead of the earbuds.

[@DCIphanatic]

Panthers fans thinking we wouldnt have more than 1 win with CJ are on some serious copium right now. Bryce hasn't done anything to elevate the team, he's still taking nonchalant slow drop backs, getting fairy feet, and just in general is not ready to throw when the ball needs to come out. He's looking to extend plays but instead is adding to his sack and hit totals making the problems in the OL look even worse than it is. Those guys on the OL are professionals too, and their career depends on Bryce being able to figure things out - not the other way around. By taking unnecessary sacks as much as he is, he is taking literal money and potentially careers away from guys on our OL. The pocket time stats don't support the "worst OL in the league" theory fans have dreamed up. The footwork isn't something he hasnt been taught before, what we are seeing is what his body reverts to under pressure - that is much harder to train out of a QB. You know when people describe guys being natural out of the pocket? That's what they are describing is an ability to keep their structure under pressure With that said, Bryce looks like he has the ability to improve, albeit marginally. I can see him realistically being a low end starter in the league, but we drafted him #1 overall so Panthers fans have every right to be upset. Not only that, but he is supposed to be worth 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and a star receiver. That kind of evaluation means Patrick Mahomes level talent OR BUST. We've obviously busted on the pick and would have been much better off drafting at our original pick with something to look forward to if we flopped (with an all new coaching staff on both sides of the ball, the chance of flopping rises exponentially) So how bad is he? Probably in the bottom 5 in the league, and that's being generous. I think there are plenty of guys not getting chances right now who are much more prepared than Bryce is right now. There are certainly guys with worse OL, doing more with less time in the pocket - and that is a statistical fact

[@jefferythompson3235]

Finally someone else gets it… these casual panthers fans got every excuse in the book and the only thing they know to complain ab is “the coach” and the “O-line”

[@DCIphanatic]

@@jefferythompson3235 It doesn't help that the media takes these same talking points. The level of depth to the analysis has been an inch deep from people at large, and I've even heard people who don't want to criticize Bryce because they feel bad for him. For some reason those same people have no problem talking trash about Zach Wilson after a few games. To me, when a guy makes the league he is being evaluated at a league-level. I will never feel bad for doing so

[@9124Nove]

Honestly, I feel like one of the few Panthers fans who believed that the team was a terrible fit for ANY of the QB prospects. Both the media and the team's front office tried to bamboozle everyone into thinking that they were "just a QB away" and that selling the farm would make them competitive. Stroud, Richardson, and even Levis would have struggled under the Panthers with no protection and no sustainable weapons. If anything, those other QBs would probably give us a few more wins, but to think that we would be dominating with them is asinine.

[@coryoswalt7946]

As a gator fan. Colts fan are going to need to be very patient with Richardson as well. Hes absolutely brilliant but, his confidence snowballs, his decision making is rough. I promise he needs to develope a lot. I mean, looks at the consistency in his first four games before injury. I hope he does well, but here is colts fans warning. He might enter the "busts" conversation before he gets good

[@benjamincatana5089]

Happy Thanksgiving Brandon

[@moltenmetal5645]

Thanks for taking him #1....From every Texans fan

[@Crush1084]

Honestly, Bryce would've likely had similar success with Houston. It's a better all around situation. Most importantly, a way better o-line and receivers that can actually separate. Stroud wouldn't be able to fix....this

[@ozkarin07]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@Crush1084 The Texans picked #2 for a reason...This cope doesn't work.

[@jacobball8422]

I'm praying for the young man. Im a Giants fan and don't have a horse in this race. But I'd like to see a few more throws that make you're jaw drop. That's unfair to say. I think he will be okay

[@jk.9300]

I watched all season and he didn’t do shit

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

... make your* jaw drop.

[@TheleanMachine619]

I hope Bryce works out I really do. But all this talk that the Texans had a better situation is rubbish. They picked 2 for a reason. This panthers team was a 7 win team last year. Bryce should of been given more help definitely but sometimes the qb that goes first is not always the best qb in the draft.

[@munsonsully5509]

I ask myself the same question at the end of each power rankings...🙄. Keep up the good work

[@fortheh]

At least he’ll be getting 4-5 years in Carolina since they already spent so much on him 😂

[@jaylen8560]

I’m normally quick to defend qbs with a bad oline, but I genuinely don’t see many good things from Bryce even when he has time, his reads and decisions are questionable and it’s just looks like he’s playing scared

[@lmillermmms]

If you're saying this then you haven't been watching Bryce play

[@BoltTheEmolga]

If you’ve been developing with a terrible Oline, you start expecting your Oline to be terrible, which massively stunts your growth. It’s like Darnold saying he’s seeing ghosts - you start seeing pressure that isn’t there because every other play you expect pressure. It’s impossible to judge a QB’s decisions accurately in that situation.

[@Stanky2000]

He has no fucking weapons that can get open and there's no time for them to try to get open because the o line just lets guys by. He's surrounded by a Mountain West team in the NFL.

[@TStizzle19]

​@@Stanky2000lol yeah his best weapon is a geriatric wide out

[@andref9663]

Trevor Lawrence’s reads and decisions were questionable his first year.

[@narddog2151]

“[CJ Stroud] is as close to Joe Burrow as I’ve seen coming out of the draft” …damn Simms ok 🗣️

[@simon10121997]

First time on the channel. I like it. It feels like PBS Kids Scouting report.

[@billhart3728]

Seeing highly drafted QB’s be bad makes me reconsider the wisdom of tanking for a Qb

[@paulhester489]

So Cincinnati tanking for Joe Burrows was stupid? Miami tanking for Tua was stupid? Texans tanking for CJ Stroud was stupid?

[@jmgonzales7701]

No tanking for a midget is never good

[@charlesr7269]

​@@paulhester489I mean with your first two examples hurts was taken in the second round so you kinda proving his point with those examples... mahomes was a third round pick iirc, and Stroud may not be the best QB of his draft class but if he is he wasn't the first QB taken and losing a lot of games creates a poor culture as opposed to being mediocre and hitting the lottery on a guy

[@euj0]

​@@charlesr7269in what universe was Mahomes a 3rd round pick?

[@charlesr7269]

@@euj0 I looked it up and I was misremembering, but just as bad the bears tanked for Mitch and the chiefs were mediocre and took mahomes...so other than the round every thing else works out like I said

[@regeilewallace2891]

As a panthers fan you gotta be drunk as hell if you think Bryce is our future 😂

[@jonyangas2672]

Craziest part of this video was Raycon having a water filter

[@calebberry6542]

Love your content bro. I'm not going to argue with any of your opinions, they are yours my friend, and you are entitled to them!😂 The only thing I wanted yo comment to correct you on. The entire time Bryce was at Bama, his offensive line was straight garbage. I'm a Bama fan, and I watched how terrible they were....every game. Also, if you watched that game against Georgia for the national championship, you would have seen the insane number of drops by the Bama receivers. Our top two receivers got hurt, and our offense proceeded to look like the chiefs do this year without kelce.. the qb looks awesome and is doing insane things, the receivers literally had their hands chopped off in a tragic accident...(apparently)

[@HighAltitudeMMA]

Why not just draft a top 10 qb with the last pick of the draft? It's easy!

[@K1forMVP]

Except Purdy isn’t a top 10 QB ILMAO he’s the 3rd or 4th best QB in his own division depending on where u rank Geno. Purdy is a system QB on a stacked roster, when the run game struggles and he doesn’t have wide open well defined throws everywhere then Purdy struggles.

[@HighAltitudeMMA]

@@K1forMVP lmaoooo k

[@HighAltitudeMMA]

@@K1forMVP MVPurdy

[@dandrummond9154]

Wow, yeah. He does deserve a chance to be good. I never cared enough to look, but Miles Sanders is not terrible. I was never very high on him like some others, but he was our best back while healthy. It was noticeable when he was hurt even, which was every year. Run blocking is, very obviously, a different skillset to pass blocking, but the best pass blockers aren't going to be the worst run blockers.

[@Foxyfreedom]

Ever notice every decent running back is good as an eagle, and swift wasn’t good in Detroit? It’s almost like an offensive line makes all the difference.

[@pohorex6834]

Bryce will be fine, as long as he keeps his heads on his shoulders and doesn’t collapse mentally because of this. If he only starts playing like deshaun watson and alone I think he’d do okay, and he’d stay mentally not broken enough to recover when the team and coaching is competent.

[@cameronbriglin8522]

Happy thanksgiving Perna

[@Joswag]

Trevor Lawrence sucked in his rookie year (tbf he had Urban Meyer) so I’m gonna give Young a small pass until he gets a competent coach and one weapon

[@bigbearkat2010]

I'm not sure Bryce's situation is that much better honestly. They can't realistically improve through the draft anytime soon and it's one of the worst kept secrets that the guys in charge of developing him didn't even want him.

[@vmi4172]

The Panthers trading up for Bryce Young is a worse deal than 9ers trading up for Lance IMO. He's not a franchise QB and the worse part is they are gonna give up the franchise QB(Caleb, Drake) to the Bears in that terribly ill-informed deal. Throw in the fact they also gave up a #1 WR and this is a deal should hurt every Panthers fans heart for the next decade😂

[@Tpuff58]

Ive said it ive always been weary of drafting qbs from Alabama Its a great school with great receivers running backs oline and great defense so it helps hide a qbs problems picking up his slack

[@CoreyPoindexter]

Not gonna lie.... The "I've got a secret" and reveal made me laugh harder than it had any right to lol

[@thomas_p_werner]

It was hilarious that they took him over stroud all you had to do was watch stroud vs Georgia to know he was better.

[@jontinoco8195]

Definitely feels like Young's rookie year is mirroring that of Trevor Lawrence. The front offices and coaching are going to fail him unless they change personnel, like gaining Doug Peterson for the Jags and firing Urban Meyer.

[@jefferythompson3235]

Except for the fact Trevor is 6’5, smart and has a rocket arm… The jags had 2- 1st rd draft pick that year and 2- 1st rd draft pick the year after he was drafted

[@kevykev388]

Trevor threw for 3600 yards his first year. He also had 2 or 3 elite level plays every other game or so. Bryce is trash dude. His NFL stats prove it. His stats in Alabama (beneath the surface level stuff ie: Total yards, TDs etc) also prove it. He's never been accurate over 15 air yards. Can't make identify defenses before the snap. So he holds the ball too long after the snap. Can't see from the pocket so first thought is to run away whether it's clean or not. Because of this bad habit....when he's forced to sit in the pocket...he runs to the pressure instead of away from it. This is why he was sacked in college 65 times. The Alabama OL was not bad. Neither is Carolinas...Bryce just makes them look bad. Even his college receivers saw better numbers with Mac Jones. The other receiver who transferred from GA...same thing. He had better numbers in GA than he did with Bryce in Alabama. Bryce doesn't make guys better. His physical limitations and inability pulls everybody down. He's got 3 former pro bowlers on offense having the worst statistical season of their careers

[@auzieten]

I mean, Stroud clearly has a better supporting cast around him. Not to take anything away from Stroud, but more pointing out how just bad the Panthers are. Nico Collins is legit. Tank Dell is legit. Their line has been playing surprisingly well. Their scheme has been good. They have a running game. You can't say any of those things for what Young has to deal with.

[@joryfarice]

My man's just trying to enjoy his Thanksgiving and you drop this on him.

[@zeedon]

Even when the Panthers were playing my Detroit team, I couldn’t help but feel bad for the guy. Between the incredible pressure, and the incredible lack of support. He’s got big ‘ol balls just to get out there and keep trying.

[@trendfilmz8060]

Bryce isn’t a bust he’s fine he’s just been out in a situation designed for him to fail. The only proven way to win in the NFL is to build the trenches before you get your QB or build them after. Panthers are opting for option two with no first round pick this year either🤦🏾‍♂️

[@primeup6955]

Jeez Louise! No 1st rd picks this year is brutal 😭. Panthers better find good/decent talent in the latter rds then. Even with that, they'll still be behind teams like the Cowboys and 49ers of the world.

[@MrSpicabooo]

The texans oline had to tap into the practice squad to field a starting oline, and stroud is still flourishing, bryce is simply not built for this league. Hes small, not fast, and average at best arm

[@Oozooz002]

This video made me think that if Lawrence got a superstar WR, he can truly take that next step... So I'm hoping Bryce Young gets that superstar WR to help him out

[@drewcp2012]

Frank Reich just got fired too 😬😬😬